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chopperone
12-28-2012, 03:38 AM
So who is Patrick Pretty? All kinds of people seem to be pretty infatuated with him, yet all the information there is about him is... well... written by "him" or "her" or "it." I have a copy of a pdf "book" written by him a few years ago, where he adds a little "About Patrick Pretty" at the end; every word appears to be a lie. None of the people he names appear to have ever existed, except, perhaps, in his mind, the association he names does not seem to have ever existed - indeed, at the time that he was supposedly "discovered," again, by an apparently non-existent famous photographer, the grape industry in the US was in the midst of some of the greatest labor unrest in US history.

"Patrick Pretty" claims to be a very honest, law-abiding and morally superior "scam buster," yet he appears, himself, to be a complete fraud and fabrication.

Here is a quote from "him" endorsing a whole gang of some of the most well-known hype artists and gurus on the internet, responsible for fleecing untold fortunes out of the gullible for years...

""If you're an aspiring marketer looking for proven ways to make money online, you naturally wonder what you need to do avoid costly, time-wasting false-starts. My advice now consists of three succinct words:

"Simply come here.

"The Internet Marketing Inner Circle is exactly what the name implies: a gateway to true insider's knowledge, information that prevents you from kissing frogs and permits you to build momentum out of the gate.

"You'll learn from leaders such as Lynn Terry, Rosiland Gardner, Gina Gaudio-Graves, Rebecca Hagel, Jane Mark, Thea Swafford and other remarkably talented women.

And Willie Crawford, Dr. Mani, Paul Myers, Mike Filsaime, Marlon Sanders, John Hostler and other remarkably talented men will help shape your thinking and keep you on the right track.

"This is a unique opportunity, one that already has made a difference in my marketing life and will continue to do so."

Patrick Pretty
"The Most Beautiful Little Boy In The World" -- 1964

http://PluckForever.com""

Found on The Internet Marketing Inner Circle Exclusive Membership Site (http://web.archive.org/web/20080212234927/http://www.theinternetmarketinginnercircle.com/insider.php) from a followup to a link on Patrick Pretty - My Secret Identity! (http://www.kelly-stone.com/marketing-tips/patrick-pretty-my-secret-identity/)

So... what's up with that? Who IS Patrick Pretty? Will we ever know? Do his Realscam "friends" know? Are some of the so-called scam-busters here in collusion with him in some grand scheme that has yet to be exposed? Could it be that the people who have come over here from the site most affectionately known as Scamlandpro are setting up shop here, now, with Patrick Pretty and friends, just waiting to pounce when the moment for the fleecing is right?

Is Patrick Pretty preparing the field for his friends from the Warrior Forum, for people like Willie Crawford and his friends, Andy Henry, Charles Burke, Mike (ugh) Filsaime, Gary Knuckles, Mike Merz, Lynn Terry, Jason Cain, Joe (gotcha) Vitale, Joel Comm, John Glube,John Reese, Marc Goldman, Marty Foley, Phyllis Schwaretz, Rosalind Gardner, Tam Morris, Ted Nicholas, Russell Brunson, Paul Myers, Marlon Sander, Yanik Silver and others in this crowd of "gurus?"

Maybe it's just me, but if I'm going to listen to someone who claims to be a scambuster, I sure don't want it to be a person with a completely made up persona telling me to "trust in me..." just like the snake in "The Jungle Book," right before he tried to make a meal out of the little guy...

ProfHenryHiggins
12-28-2012, 03:53 AM
Try looking up a former police officer turned journalist named Patrick Hernan, in Pennsylvania.

littleroundman
12-28-2012, 05:49 AM
Nice try, chopperone,

the only problem I see with your treastise is you've left out associating Patrick with the Illuminati and devil worshippers

Soapboxmom
12-28-2012, 09:27 AM
chopperone,

Are you kidding me? There are many folks that simply volunteer their time to warn and inform the public. Everyone working here is a volunteer and the site doesn't generate a dime for the owner or anyone else.

You are definitely barfing up the wrong tree!

Soapboxmom

Lil Ol' Radical Me
12-28-2012, 10:01 AM
Try looking up a former police officer turned journalist named Patrick Hernan, in Pennsylvania.


Investigative journalist to boot. It means he investigates things before he publishes them, unlike certain of his critics. Sigh...

I think you have been taking classes from Monkey Brain.

PPBlog
12-28-2012, 10:57 AM
chopperone,

Don't forget to tell the troops that PP also has appeared on hundreds of magazine covers and TV shows, strummed the guitar with Elvis, dined with the Queen (asked if she wanted more bread and created an international incident) and made his debut in Major League Baseball as a 48-year-old rookie -- going five-for-five with two homers and a couple of stolen bases, as I recall.

In other words, PP, unable to see the big zits on his face and his black teeth, is a fantasy brand, "The Most Beautiful Little Boy In The World," a favorite of the tabloids and paparazzi after he rose to fame as a spokesman for grapes. When the brand was brand new, the storytelling helped attract an audience.

Over time, the PP Blog became less interested in "Internet Marketing" and more interested in writing about scams. This was because it had become evident that very few Blogs in "Internet Marketing" were devoted full time to writing about scams. Scams were multiplying -- mushrooming, actually. My analysis of the situation suggests that the scams began to mushroom just about the time the economy was going in the tank.

Funny thing about reporting on scams: It makes you a target of slime attacks such as the one you posted above. Then cyberstalkers such as UF26 go after you, using names such as "Pistol" and "Pistol's Pal."

Then there's the hate mail, occasionally including very menacing language and even death threats. The Blog also has experienced DDoS attacks, for instance.

It's true that I am less public than I used to be. That's because of the DDoS attacks, certain actions of members of a criminal mob and/or "sovereign citizens." They routinely try to put a chill in me. Earlier this month one of them told me I owed a certain individual "sovereign" $300,000 every time I used her name in a story.

There also have been a few instances in which "defenders" of bizarre "programs" actually began to attack certain PP Blog readers. One true sicko applauded the death of my dog, suggesting it was a warning from God and that a family member could be next.

You wouldn't be trying to put a chill in me or RealScam.com, would you, chopperone? It has been tried on this very forum before -- and even taken off the forum and moved other places by an individual who claimed he was inspired to "defend" the 730-percent-a-year JSSTripler/JustPeenPaid program "so help me God."

I've also noticed that various slime-bucketeers have trained their sights on RealScam.com, one of the few forums in the world that concerns itself with the dangers of international mass-marketing fraud. They want to chill the forum and some of its posters, particularly on the subjects of cash-gifting and the BannersBroker and ProfitableSunrise "programs." Some of them try to use UF26 as their authority. His lot in life is to have become a source of inspiration for HYIP hucksters and serial stalkers.

Hell, chopperone, if you spend enough time on the Internet, maybe your thinking will evolve. Maybe as you see more and more people getting drafted into scams, maybe you'll come to see the economic and national-security implications of all of this. Not sure if you're a writer, but maybe you'll decide to use your talents to make whatever difference you can make.

That's the choice I made more than four years ago. Some of the early critics of my reports on scams were slime-bucketeers such as your (current) self. They didn't want to believe their "program" was a scam, but their thinking evolved over time and they became members of the antiscam community. I count these folks among my friends now.

PPBlog

P.S. Sometimes I use fantasy to drive home a larger point about the dangers of scamming going unchecked on the Internet. Like this:

FANTASY POST: President Cuts Short Vacation To Address Nation On ‘Grave Threat To National Economic Security’; Government Targeted With ‘Taunt’ From Purported MLM Operators Amid Sea Of Incongruity; ‘We Have The Power,&#8 (http://www.patrickpretty.com/2010/07/31/fantasy-post-president-cuts-short-vacation-to-address-nation-on-grave-threat-to-national-economic-security-government-targeted-with-taunt-from-purported-mlm-operators-amid-sea-of-incongruity/)

scratchycat
12-28-2012, 12:07 PM
I've also noticed that various slime-bucketeers have trained their sights on RealScam.com, one of the few forums in the world that concerns itself with the dangers of international mass-marketing fraud. They want to chill the forum and some of its posters, particularly on the subjects of cash-gifting and the BannersBroker and ProfitableSunrise "programs." Some of them try to use UF26 as their authority. His lot in life is to have become a source of inspiration for HYIP hucksters and serial stalkers.

Many of us have become targets as we continue to try and expose these malicious programs that lure people into get rich quick schemes. Your website is a tremendous source of information that many of us rely on. It is a shame that you are constantly attacked by the criminals as they don't like to be called on their game.

chopperone sounds like he/she would fit right in with the Adlandpro scammers and those marketers using Facebook as a launching pad now.

Now you have your own thread here PP and we will make it a good one!!

ProfHenryHiggins
12-28-2012, 03:44 PM
I think you have been taking classes from Monkey Brain.


Moi?

How do you reckon that?

Lil Ol' Radical Me
12-28-2012, 04:47 PM
Moi?

How do you reckon that?

Toi? Non. Chopperone Oui. Forgot it was your quote. Mea culpa maxima

chopperone
12-29-2012, 05:17 PM
Try looking up a former police officer turned journalist named Patrick Hernan, in Pennsylvania.

Patrick F. Hernan, married to Tammy Hernan? Then my hat's off to the man who is able to write consistently with two completely different styles. Kudos... you aren't any ordinary writer, Patrick. I don't know how you keep up your schedule, what with blogging as Patrick Pretty, working as an investigative journalist as Patrick Hernan, plus also writing pulp fiction as Patrick Hernan.

chopperone
12-29-2012, 05:34 PM
chopperone,

Don't forget to tell the troops that PP also has appeared on hundreds of magazine covers and TV shows, strummed the guitar with Elvis, dined with the Queen (asked if she wanted more bread and created an international incident) and made his debut in Major League Baseball as a 48-year-old rookie -- going five-for-five with two homers and a couple of stolen bases, as I recall.

In other words, PP, unable to see the big zits on his face and his black teeth, is a fantasy brand, "The Most Beautiful Little Boy In The World," a favorite of the tabloids and paparazzi after he rose to fame as a spokesman for grapes. When the brand was brand new, the storytelling helped attract an audience.

Over time, the PP Blog became less interested in "Internet Marketing" and more interested in writing about scams. This was because it had become evident that very few Blogs in "Internet Marketing" were devoted full time to writing about scams. Scams were multiplying -- mushrooming, actually. My analysis of the situation suggests that the scams began to mushroom just about the time the economy was going in the tank.

Funny thing about reporting on scams: It makes you a target of slime attacks such as the one you posted above. Then cyberstalkers such as UF26 go after you, using names such as "Pistol" and "Pistol's Pal."

Then there's the hate mail, occasionally including very menacing language and even death threats. The Blog also has experienced DDoS attacks, for instance.

It's true that I am less public than I used to be. That's because of the DDoS attacks, certain actions of members of a criminal mob and/or "sovereign citizens." They routinely try to put a chill in me. Earlier this month one of them told me I owed a certain individual "sovereign" $300,000 every time I used her name in a story.

There also have been a few instances in which "defenders" of bizarre "programs" actually began to attack certain PP Blog readers. One true sicko applauded the death of my dog, suggesting it was a warning from God and that a family member could be next.

You wouldn't be trying to put a chill in me or RealScam.com, would you, chopperone? It has been tried on this very forum before -- and even taken off the forum and moved other places by an individual who claimed he was inspired to "defend" the 730-percent-a-year JSSTripler/JustPeenPaid program "so help me God."

I've also noticed that various slime-bucketeers have trained their sights on RealScam.com, one of the few forums in the world that concerns itself with the dangers of international mass-marketing fraud. They want to chill the forum and some of its posters, particularly on the subjects of cash-gifting and the BannersBroker and ProfitableSunrise "programs." Some of them try to use UF26 as their authority. His lot in life is to have become a source of inspiration for HYIP hucksters and serial stalkers.

Hell, chopperone, if you spend enough time on the Internet, maybe your thinking will evolve. Maybe as you see more and more people getting drafted into scams, maybe you'll come to see the economic and national-security implications of all of this. Not sure if you're a writer, but maybe you'll decide to use your talents to make whatever difference you can make.

That's the choice I made more than four years ago. Some of the early critics of my reports on scams were slime-bucketeers such as your (current) self. They didn't want to believe their "program" was a scam, but their thinking evolved over time and they became members of the antiscam community. I count these folks among my friends now.

PPBlog

P.S. Sometimes I use fantasy to drive home a larger point about the dangers of scamming going unchecked on the Internet. Like this:

FANTASY POST: President Cuts Short Vacation To Address Nation On ‘Grave Threat To National Economic Security’; Government Targeted With ‘Taunt’ From Purported MLM Operators Amid Sea Of Incongruity; ‘We Have The Power, (http://www.patrickpretty.com/2010/07/31/fantasy-post-president-cuts-short-vacation-to-address-nation-on-grave-threat-to-national-economic-security-government-targeted-with-taunt-from-purported-mlm-operators-amid-sea-of-incongruity/)

Slime-bucketeer? :shocked: Wow, I've never been called that, before, and certainly never thought I'd be honored thusly by someone as famous!

While we are on the subject, how do you explain this?

"Patrick Pretty is the author of “Pluck Forever (http://www.anownsite.com/cgi-bin/u.cgi?pf)“, a guide to selling products while steering clear of hype. He also is the author of “Write Faster, Write Better (http://www.anownsite.com/cgi-bin/u.cgi?ppwf),” a guide to improving the speed and quality of your Internet Marketing articles. Patrick Pretty is a coauthor of “20 Ways To Make $100 Per Day Online (http://www.anownsite.com/cgi-bin/u.cgi?wc20)” and a member of The Internet Marketing Inner Circle." (Source: Patrick Pretty: Free Branding Report To Make Money (http://www.affordable-internet-marketing.com/patrick-pretty-free-branding-report-to-make-money/) )

Who you calling a slime-bucketeer? ;) If PP and PH are one and the same, then PP was hyping junk while PH was "exposing" junk AT THE SAME TIME - it's all there in cyber land. You can write long replies full of smoke and mirrors all you want, but the facts for anyone who will look are still there, though you may try long and hard to cover your tracks.

Personally, I could care less. But if you are going to call others crooks for things they did in their past, fess up to your own. I can respect that, cause I've made plenty of my own.

Lil Ol' Radical Me
12-29-2012, 06:11 PM
Patrick F. Hernan, married to Tammy Hernan? Then my hat's off to the man who is able to write consistently with two completely different styles. Kudos... you aren't any ordinary writer, Patrick. I don't know how you keep up your schedule, what with blogging as Patrick Pretty, working as an investigative journalist as Patrick Hernan, plus also writing pulp fiction as Patrick Hernan.

As an investigative poster you are really not doing very well are you. Go away and do your homework.

chopperone
12-29-2012, 06:31 PM
As an investigative poster you are really not doing very well are you. Go away and do your homework.

Thank you. I am doing far better than you think. :RpS_smile: Thanks for the help.

path2prosperity
12-29-2012, 07:14 PM
chopperone sounds like he/she would fit right in with the Adlandpro scammers and those marketers using Facebook as a launching pad now.

Now you have your own thread here PP and we will make it a good one!!

How right you are. So obviously sent to advance the interests of the Adlandpro members who have scarpered when they have been asked searching questions.

ProfHenryHiggins
12-29-2012, 07:21 PM
Patrick F. Hernan, married to Tammy Hernan? Then my hat's off to the man who is able to write consistently with two completely different styles. Kudos... you aren't any ordinary writer, Patrick. I don't know how you keep up your schedule, what with blogging as Patrick Pretty, working as an investigative journalist as Patrick Hernan, plus also writing pulp fiction as Patrick Hernan.

I wouldn't know who he's married to, but tracking past websites and activities shows crimeamerica.com tying the two Patricks together as one person.

Lil Ol' Radical Me
12-29-2012, 07:37 PM
Thank you. I am doing far better than you think. :RpS_smile: Thanks for the help.

I'll give you a clue. Did you find the Hollywood association?

PPBlog
12-29-2012, 07:57 PM
Slime-bucketeer?

Yes. Slime-bucketeer. Just the most recent.


While we are on the subject, how do you explain this?"Patrick Pretty is the author of “Pluck Forever (http://www.anownsite.com/cgi-bin/u.cgi?pf)“, a guide to selling products while steering clear of hype. He also is the author of “Write Faster, Write Better (http://www.anownsite.com/cgi-bin/u.cgi?ppwf),” a guide to improving the speed and quality of your Internet Marketing articles. Patrick Pretty is a coauthor of “20 Ways To Make $100 Per Day Online (http://www.anownsite.com/cgi-bin/u.cgi?wc20)” and a member of The Internet Marketing Inner Circle." (Source: Patrick Pretty: Free Branding Report To Make Money (http://www.affordable-internet-marketing.com/patrick-pretty-free-branding-report-to-make-money/) )

Well, I'd guess I'd explain it like this: Pluck Forever was "a guide to selling products while steering clear of hype." And "Write Faster, Write Better" was "a guide to improving the speed and quality of your Internet Marketing articles." And it's true that I was a co-author of “20 Ways To Make $100 Per Day Online” and at one times was a member of The Internet Marketing Inner Circle.

Please feel free to wrap as many conspiracy theories around it as you'd like.

Here's my current favorite of your slime-bucket conspiracy theories:


So... what's up with that? Who IS Patrick Pretty? Will we ever know? Do his Realscam "friends" know? Are some of the so-called scam-busters here in collusion with him in some grand scheme that has yet to be exposed? Could it be that the people who have come over here from the site most affectionately known as Scamlandpro are setting up shop here, now, with Patrick Pretty and friends, just waiting to pounce when the moment for the fleecing is right

You even managed to work in the perceived "so-called scam busters" slight, marrying it to your conspiracy theory. Gawd. Have any idea how crazy that sounds?


If PP and PH are one and the same, then PP was hyping junk while PH was "exposing" junk AT THE SAME TIME - it's all there in cyber land. You can write long replies full of smoke and mirrors all you want, but the facts for anyone who will look are still there, though you may try long and hard to cover your tracks.

You must be particularly proud of this perceived revelation, given your Caps emphasis of "AT THE SAME TIME."

LOL. It's not much of a revelation, though, given that it takes maybe 12 seconds to associate PP with the Warrior Forum, the place from which I tried to launch/build the PP brand. It's interesting, though, that you'd advance a conspiracy theory of "covering tracks," especially since the information is readily available in Google. I was a Mod there between December 2007 and July 2008. Just being at the Warrior Forum gave me an education on the best and the worst about "Internet Marketing."

My reasoning was simple: No one would be able to sell anything online if IMers didn't start speaking out against scams. Beyond that, it became clear that forums and social media sites could do little to control the scammers in their midst. Lots of the HYIPers have Facebook and YouTube sites these days.


Personally, I could care less. But if you are going to call others crooks for things they did in their past, fess up to your own. I can respect that, cause I've made plenty of my own.

Let's see: You could "care less," but you started this thread. That's funny. And you think that I need to "fess up" to trying to sell ebooks online during the greatest recession publishing has even known. That's funnier yet.

Lot's of writers/journalists are going to be trying to sell ebooks before it's all over -- if it's ever all over, that is.


my hat's off to the man who is able to write consistently with two completely different styles

Let me guess: You have conspiracy theories in unlimited supply.

PPBlog

Whip
12-29-2012, 08:17 PM
Yes. Slime-bucketeer. Just the most recent.



Well, I'd guess I'd explain it like this: Pluck Forever was "a guide to selling products while steering clear of hype." And "Write Faster, Write Better" was "a guide to improving the speed and quality of your Internet Marketing articles." And it's true that I was a co-author of “20 Ways To Make $100 Per Day Online” and at one times was a member of The Internet Marketing Inner Circle.

Please feel free to wrap as many conspiracy theories around it as you'd like.

Here's my current favorite of your slime-bucket conspiracy theories:



You even managed to work in the perceived "so-called scam busters" slight, marrying it to your conspiracy theory. Gawd. Have any idea how crazy that sounds?



You must be particularly proud of this perceived revelation, given your Caps emphasis of "AT THE SAME TIME."

LOL. It's not much of a revelation, though, given that it takes maybe 12 seconds to associate PP with the Warrior Forum, the place from which I tried to launch/build the PP brand. It's interesting, though, that you'd advance a conspiracy theory of "covering tracks," especially since the information is readily available in Google. I was a Mod there between December 2007 and July 2008. Just being at the Warrior Forum gave me an education on the best and the worst about "Internet Marketing."

My reasoning was simple: No one would be able to sell anything online if IMers didn't start speaking out against scams. Beyond that, it became clear that forums and social media sites could do little to control the scammers in their midst. Lots of the HYIPers have Facebook and YouTube sites these days.



Let's see: You could "care less," but you started this thread. That's funny. And you think that I need to "fess up" to trying to sell ebooks online during the greatest recession publishing has even known. That's funnier yet.

Lot's of writers/journalists are going to be trying to sell ebooks before it's all over -- if it's ever all over, that is.



Let me guess: You have conspiracy theories in unlimited supply.

PPBlog

What's funny is the fact he thinks he's the first to advance this agenda. Actually, I'd say it's moneydownthedrain under a new mult.

littleroundman
12-29-2012, 08:20 PM
then PP was hyping junk while PH was "exposing" junk AT THE SAME TIME

Maybe It's just me, but, when did "junk" become an all encompassing term to include e-books with little value to YOU and internet crime ???

I don't read comic books.

To me, comic books could be considered "junk"

Do you consider HYIPponzi fraud, cash gifting and pseudo MLMs as merely being "junk" in the same way I consider comics to be "junk"

Here's a free tip for you:

if you're going to continue your career in "slimebucketry" at least when you attempt to expose someones' history, try and find something about which your target might be the slightest embarrassed.

I mean, c'mon, "Write Faster, Write Better" is hardly likely to bring out the FBI, is it ???

What, did “20 Ways To Make $100 Per Day Online” come with naked dancing girls or something ????

Mind you, I can see how "Write Faster, Write Better" could be construed as being offensive to someone who has difficulty writing at all, perhaps that's what's at the root of your problem with Patrick.

If this is the standard of "exposing" and "naming and shaming" we can expect from you, I'm fairly confident in predicting your career in "slimebucketry" is going to be short and definitely not sweet.

PPBlog
12-29-2012, 08:41 PM
What, did “20 Ways To Make $100 Per Day Online” come with naked dancing girls or something ????

Good line, LRM. There is a story with "20 Ways," though: It got stolen just hours after the launch and put on eBay, where the thief slashed the price by two-thirds.

The guy took the website lock, stock and barrel, including the support address. So, he stole the book and the website and reposted it on eBay. And because the support link was there, he passed off support to TIMIC. eBay removed the page, and then the book got stolen and placed elsewhere for free.

About the thing happened with my now-defunct PonziNews site. Thief stole all of my stories and put them up on his own site that he monetized by various means while employing an SEO strategy to bury my site. In short, I produced the content and he got the income.

PPBlog

littleroundman
12-30-2012, 02:01 AM
Come to think of it,

who IS "chopperone" ???

Lil Ol' Radical Me
12-30-2012, 10:24 AM
Come to think of it,

who IS "chopperone" ???

Is this where we all dive for google and see what comes up on the first page? lol

......ok - Back again. Checked it out on google pages 1 to 3 and he is some kind of indie band or a punk named Josh. Oh! What do you mean "that doesn't count as due diligence"? I've found out things!

Whip
12-30-2012, 10:54 AM
Is this where we all dive for google and see what comes up on the first page? lol

......ok - Back again. Checked it out on google pages 1 to 3 and he is some kind of indie band or a punk named Josh. Oh! What do you mean "that doesn't count as due diligence"? I've found out things!

This was my first search result: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/Whip412/****.gif
followed by: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/Whip412/drinking-3-1.gif
and then: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/Whip412/girl_tantrum-1.gif

Hypanor
12-30-2012, 01:06 PM
Oh, so its not this one? (http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=29763678)

He has an 'entrepreneurial spirit' which usually means... yeah. He's probably upset at something Patrick or Realscam.com has written about his favourite entrepreneurial business program.

It doesn't say anything about conspiracy theories as one of his interests though, so maybe its not the same chopperone?

Lil Ol' Radical Me
12-30-2012, 01:26 PM
It doesnt say anything about him playing in an indie band, but there again, it doesn't say he doesn't and it doesn't say that he is a conspiracy theorist who promotes online biz opps and it doesn't say he isn't. The possibilities are endless.

Anymore possible chopperones? I like his ideas for research.

scratchycat
12-31-2012, 10:12 AM
Come to think of it,

who IS "chopperone" ???

That was my question LRM!!??? If chopper wants so bad to know who PP is maybe we should know who chopperone is.

scratchycat
12-31-2012, 10:18 AM
Is this where we all dive for google and see what comes up on the first page? lol

......ok - Back again. Checked it out on google pages 1 to 3 and he is some kind of indie band or a punk named Josh. Oh! What do you mean "that doesn't count as due diligence"? I've found out things!

Chopper One - Weezerpedia (http://www.weezerpedia.com/wiki/index.php?title=Chopper_One)

Chopper One was formed by guitarist Jason Cropper with his wife Amy after he left Weezer in 1993. The band released an indie single in 1995, followed by their debut album Now Playing in 1997. The disc was reissued as Chopper One, backed by a new line-up of the band, the following year. Chopper One disbanded circa 1999. Cropper has continued various writing, recording, and production projects.

Weezer is an American alternative rock band from Los Angeles, California formed in 1992 by Rivers Cuomo (lead vocals, guitar), Patrick Wilson (drums, backing vocals), Matt Sharp (bass, backing vocals), and Jason Cropper (guitar, backing vocals), with the last two replaced by Mikey Welsh and Brian Bell, respectively. Mikey Welsh was later replaced with Scott Shriner. They have released nine full-length albums, six EPs, and a DVD. Weezer has sold more than eight million records to date in the US.


Weezer - Weezerpedia (http://www.weezerpedia.com/wiki/index.php?title=Weezer)

I love research but who is this chopperone??

Lil Ol' Radical Me
12-31-2012, 10:36 AM
That was my question LRM!!??? If chopper wants so bad to know who PP is maybe we should know who chopperone is.

Well, as you can see above, we're working on it. lol I had rather hoped that, as he doesn't seem to like people's backgrounds being hidden from view, he would come here and tell us. Seems he's disappeared since we started asking though.

littleroundman
12-31-2012, 10:38 AM
That was my question LRM!!??? If chopper wants so bad to know who PP is maybe we should know who chopperone is.

Does anyone really care enough to bother ??

Ya seen one troll, ya seen 'em all.

path2prosperity
12-31-2012, 02:02 PM
Just being at the Warrior Forum gave me an education on the best and the worst about "Internet Marketing."



My thoughts to a tee PPBlog.

There is a huge difference between marketing and "Internet Marketing" as defined by "Internet Marketers." and proper marketing on the Internet. I have tried to start a RS thread on the difference and I hope that we can develop this theme here and on your blog.

I was taught the basics of marketing by a retired person who had launched the concept of tea bags as opposed to leaf tea for the Tetley Tea Company and he did not teach any of his students how to promote mass produced garbage.

A few months on several Internet forums convinced me that the concept of Internet Marketing was fraudulent and that real business people should try to educate people on the basics of marketing.

Most RS readers know that the first Internet forum which I joined was Adlandpro. Bogdan Fiedur and his cohorts claimed that Corey Rudl was the founding father of Internet Marketing and they tried to sell his marketing strategies as gospel truth. Wikepedia gives the deceased Corey Rudl and his successor Derek Gehl credit for being the first successful Internet Marketer. Was this man a false idol and if you agree can we lead the iconoclastic movement against the man?

path2prosperity
12-31-2012, 02:14 PM
Patrick has made a name for himself without the backing of a large National or International newspaper. The fact that he held in very high esteem by other investigative journalists like Tony Hetherington speaks volumes.

Patrick needed a few donations to get him off the ground. Compare that with the salary that Tony gets from Associated Newspapers in UK and be glad that there are still people who start as small fry and make a big splash. Does anybody remember the Barclays ads. "Some tiddlers become whoppers"

Make mincemeat of this "chopperone" Patrick and we will feed his remains to the hyenas.