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scambusters
11-21-2012, 06:33 AM
I noticed the thread was closed. What's wrong littleroundboy? You can't handle the truth?

First of all you are an idiot that does not pay attention. NOT ONCE did I say anything about cash gifting being legal nor did I call cash gifters innocent. This is simply your way to try and place the attention elsewhere.

I gave proof but you just can't admit it. You remind me of an Obama supporter. Oh no...Obama has done nothing wrong. Everything that you hear about him is not true. People are just making it up. blah, blah, blah...yet the proof is all right in front of them and documented.

I personally have the screen shots of the fake sign ups and after they were done PHH posts all the information...how perfect is that?

I think I am going to find out exactly who you are. You know...your real name, occupation, etc. I am now curious because you are one of the most ignorant people I have ever come across.

littleroundman
11-21-2012, 06:41 AM
Gee, was that me who closed the thread ??

Thanks for telling me, scambusters, I wouldn't have known otherwise.

Assuming things again, much ??

littleroundman
11-21-2012, 06:49 AM
I personally have the screen shots of the fake sign ups and after they were done PHH posts all the information...how perfect is that?

Again I ask,

would that "evidence" stand up in court ??

How many explanations for what happened do you think a reasonable non-troll could come up with other than the one you've chosen to believe, do you think ??

How many emails could the good Prof received during the 30 minute gap between when the sign up was made and Prof posted would you estimate ??

Is it at all possible there is more than one person on the planet annoyed by the arrogance of cash gifters who so publicly flout their illegal activities ??

Got any names of the poor "innocents" so badly affected by reproducing of publicly available information ???

Any "scambuster" tips for people who discover associating their names with illegal activities online is both dangerous and foolish ??

scambusters
11-21-2012, 06:50 AM
I'm a silly little troll whose posts are being edited

lutarian
11-21-2012, 07:01 AM
Aw. Banning us now uh? Won't work. We have over 100 accounts on this forum and can keep making more.

PHH did the fake signup. We have the proof. I warned you all before. EVERY SINGLE program that PHH, you and two other "members" of the forum post on we track and will continue to track. Wait till you see the website with all of your personal information, who you people really are and the scams that a few of you pull.



Again I ask,

would that "evidence" stand up in court ??

How many explanations for what happened do you think a reasonable non-troll could come up with other than the one you've chosen to believe, do you think ??

How many emails could the good Prof received during the 30 minute gap between when the sign up was made and Prof posted would you estimate ??

Is it at all possible there is more than one person on the planet annoyed by the arrogance of cash gifters who so publicly flout their illegal activities ??

Got any names of the poor "innocents" so badly affected by reproducing of publicly available information ???

Any "scambuster" tips for people who discover associating their names with illegal activities online is both dangerous and foolish ??

lutarian
11-21-2012, 07:02 AM
Of course. You don't want the members to see the real truth behind a few of you do you? You don't want others to see that some of you are actually scammers yourselves.



I'm a silly little troll whose posts are being edited

littleroundman
11-21-2012, 07:12 AM
Aw. Banning us now uh? Won't work. We have over 100 accounts on this forum and can keep making more.

PHH did the fake signup. We have the proof. I warned you all before. EVERY SINGLE program that PHH, you and two other "members" of the forum post on we track and will continue to track. Wait till you see the website with all of your personal information, who you people really are and the scams that a few of you pull.

No, actually,

"temporarily banning" an annoying little troll while I find the time to create a new thread in which to include all his off topic posts from the thread in which he's decided to make a nuisance of himself.

As for your "tracking" again I say, so bloody what ??

Many of the admins and members of this forum have their real names and addresses all over both the site and the 'net.

Being "exposed" by criminals is one of the costs of doing business.

Your threats are noted and archived, and then ignored.

Go ahead, carry out your threats, as hollow as they are.

Consult a lawyer,

even better, make a complaint to the police or the I.R.S or even the F.B.I. if you and your friends are so inclined.

Just remember, cash gifting is STILL illegal, both to organize AND to participate.

Your choice

lutarian
11-21-2012, 07:24 AM
Interesting. I don't see your real name or PHH's real name. What are they anyway?

Who said anything about cash gifting being legal? I never did. Maybe you should learn to read instead of assume all the time.

I also never made any threats. I stated facts.

You realize that the key group of you people have cost people their marriages, their relationships with friends, their jobs, certain people have been "forced" from the church they went to and much more. You people call others scammers just because they are in programs that you believe are scams or that are scams. Just because people are in programs that are scams does not mean that THEY are scammers themselves. So you people CHOOSE to call them this and you have ruined many lives due to it. How do we know? We have been monitoring this for a very long time and have a "hot line" for those that were innocent victims in the programs they joined and their lives were ruined because of this site. So now we CHOOSE to post the illegality activities that PHH does to "expose" "scammers" and the unethical activities three more of you (you included) do to "expose" "scammers". So when your personal information is posted on a site with your real names, phone numbers, physical addresses, etc. and you are labeled as scammers don't start crying when people in your life start to question you, relationships are ruined, etc.



No, actually,

"temporarily banning" an annoying little troll while I find the time to create a new thread in which to include all his off topic posts from the thread in which he's decided to make a nuisance of himself.

As for your "tracking" again I say, so bloody what ??

Many of the admins and members of this forum have their real names and addresses all over both the site and the 'net.

Being "exposed" by criminals is one of the costs of doing business.

Your threats are noted and archived, and then ignored.

Go ahead, carry out your threats, as hollow as they are.

Consult a lawyer,

even better, make a complaint to the police or the I.R.S or even the F.B.I. if you and your friends are so inclined.

Just remember, cash gifting is STILL illegal, both to organize AND to participate.

Your choice

lutarian
11-21-2012, 07:34 AM
By the way. What is the weather like in Australia this time of year?

littleroundman
11-21-2012, 07:41 AM
Actually, Luterian,

when it comes to cash gifting, it's nothing to do with what "we" believe.

Cash gifting is illegal in the eyes of the law in every state of the Union.

Merely "participating" in cash gifting is also an offense, no matter how "innocent" the participant may like to portray him or herself.

The information we post here is available in the public domain.

IOW, "we" didn't put it there, the cash gifters did it themselves.

"THEY" attached easily identifiable markers to their information.

In fact, it's how cash gifting works.

If one potential victim of the criminals behind cash gifting realizes how dangerous and foolish to participate, it's worth all the threats, bluff, bluster and annoyance provided bu the "luterians" and "scambusters" of the world.

So, threaten away.

REALSCAM.com (http://www.realscam.com) will NEVER accede to the threats of cash gifting criminals and/or their apologists.

In fact, I can guarantee the harder you push, the harder REALSCAM.com (http://www.realscam.com) and forums just like it will push back.

ProfHenryHiggins
11-21-2012, 07:42 AM
By the way. What is the weather like in Australia this time of year?

I would presume (without checking the weather online), that it would be generally warm and quite varied across the country. It is late spring there, and Australia constitutes an entire continent, not a small cluster of cities.

littleroundman
11-21-2012, 07:44 AM
By the way. What is the weather like in Australia this time of year?

Australia is a big place, so I'm not really aware of the weather in the rest of the continent.

Here in Perth on the west coast, where I am, todays' maximum was around 32C with high humidity and a forecast of possible thunderstorms.

Thank you for asking.

Poyol
11-21-2012, 07:56 AM
Manchester's weather is *****.
You keeping a log of weather conditions?

Jason

lutarian
11-21-2012, 07:58 AM
Even though people in ALL programs, NOT just cash gifting post their information that is totally different than what you are doing. You are posting their information and placing SCAMMER next to it.

You have ruined the lives of innocent people. How does that feel you unethical fool.

Threats? Do you know what a threat is? I never threat. I state facts. Get some common sense.

Once again..this has to do with the lives you have ruined in ALL programs. NOT just cash gifting. Get that through your tiny brain. It is amazing how everything comes down to cash gifting with you when this has nothing to do with cash gifting. Totally amazing.

Pushing? LOL!!! Your information is going to be listed like you to do everyone elses along with the unethical and any illegal activity you are involved in. Let's see how you like it. According to you the information is public and out there for all to see right? So why not put it all on one nice site. How is that pushing? What a joke.



Actually, Luterian,

when it comes to cash gifting, it's nothing to do with what "we" believe.

Cash gifting is illegal in the eyes of the law in every state of the Union.

Merely "participating" in cash gifting is also an offense, no matter how "innocent" the participant may like to portray him or herself.

The information we post here is available in the public domain.

IOW, "we" didn't put it there, the cash gifters did it themselves.

"THEY" attached easily identifiable markers to their information.

In fact, it's how cash gifting works.

If one potential victim of the criminals behind cash gifting realizes how dangerous and foolish to participate, it's worth all the threats, bluff, bluster and annoyance provided bu the "luterians" and "scambusters" of the world.

So, threaten away.

REALSCAM.com (http://www.realscam.com) will NEVER accede to the threats of cash gifting criminals and/or their apologists.

In fact, I can guarantee the harder you push, the harder REALSCAM.com (http://www.realscam.com) and forums just like it will push back.

lutarian
11-21-2012, 07:59 AM
Now that is a comment I like.



Manchester's weather is *****.
You keeping a log of weather conditions?

Jason

ProfHenryHiggins
11-21-2012, 08:04 AM
Even though people in ALL programs, NOT just cash gifting post their information that is totally different than what you are doing. You are posting their information and placing SCAMMER next to it.

You have ruined the lives of innocent people. How does that feel you unethical fool.



Name those injured, and describe each of the harms you claim that we are responsible for. If you wish for amends to be attempted to be made, of course, man most mortal.

lutarian
11-21-2012, 08:08 AM
Aw. Yes..Beaufort Street.



Australia is a big place, so I'm not really aware of the weather in the rest of the continent.

Here in Perth on the west coast, where I am, todays' maximum was around 32C with high humidity and a forecast of possible thunderstorms.

Thank you for asking.

lutarian
11-21-2012, 08:09 AM
I stated examples of what had happened in previous post. Learn how to read. You really think I am going to name people for you. Why? So you can place scammer next to them again?



Name those injured, and describe each of the harms you claim that we are responsible for. If you wish for amends to be attempted to be made, of course, man most mortal.

ProfHenryHiggins
11-21-2012, 08:13 AM
I stated examples of what had happened in previous post. Learn how to read. You really think I am going to name people for you. Why? So you can place scammer next to them again?

You actually think that someone is going to waste hekau trying to repair damages to people, without knowing where to target his efforts or who needs compensation? You claimed karmic damages, but refuse to say who was wronged. Hmm.

lutarian
11-21-2012, 08:17 AM
Get for real. What do you think you are going to do? Say your sorry? To late for that. You really expect me to give out the names that this site has ruined? Are you serious? You people don't even give out your names.

You are nothing but a liar and use unethical and illegal manners while doing your research. You are also a lunatic. Talking about you being a demon and such. Get a life you pathetic, little man.


You actually think that someone is going to waste hekau trying to repair damages to people, without knowing where to target his efforts or who needs compensation? You claimed karmic damages, but refuse to say who was wronged. Hmm.

Poyol
11-21-2012, 08:30 AM
Get for real. What do you think you are going to do? Say your sorry? To late for that. You really expect me to give out the names that this site has ruined? Are you serious? You people don't even give out your names.

You are nothing but a liar and use unethical and illegal manners while doing your research. You are also a lunatic. Talking about you being a demon and such. Get a life you pathetic, little man.

I have never used illegal methods to gain information.
I give out my name ...

Anything else?

Jason

littleroundman
11-21-2012, 09:10 AM
Aw. Yes..Beaufort Street.

Ummn, yep, that's one of the streets in Perth.

Guess what ???

This year we progressed to having more than one street, AND, without hitching rails for the horses.

Ain't modern technology grand ??

scratchycat
11-21-2012, 09:10 AM
Aw. Banning us now uh? Won't work. We have over 100 accounts on this forum and can keep making more.

PHH did the fake signup. We have the proof. I warned you all before. EVERY SINGLE program that PHH, you and two other "members" of the forum post on we track and will continue to track. Wait till you see the website with all of your personal information, who you people really are and the scams that a few of you pull.

What thread was closed? Who has been banned? Sorry just checking in here and saw this stuff. Looks like there has been some exposure done that needed to be exposed and because of that you have decided to attack members of a scam-busting community. Real Scam is what the name implies, we post public information and you decide if it is true or not. I really don't keep up with the threads on cash gifting but I do see a lot of religious organizations, blogs, and people scamming others using the name of our God in vain. Some of them actually say God speaks through them. I am a Christian and I pray. God does answer prayer. I see these people saying they are channelers (I think that is a word!) and want people to send them money so that God will answer their prayers or they can channel messages to them. You can even send them money and they will pray for you. Do you actually think that is proper or would you consent to putting that in a category of "scamming"?

While some members here might do things in a way others might think unethical, it is a way that seems to bring out the 'crooks' to defend themselves by pointing fingers at RealScam. What are you doing to help prevent cyber crime? Do you want to see crooks continue with their crooked ways and people get hurt much worse than what you are saying this community has done. What about those they have hurt because of the way they have chosen to make a living and now that they are being exposed it is causing damage by showing the world just HOW they make a living?

You seem to keep threatening about the 'group' and your 100 or so members here in RS, well why not just do it and get it over with, why all the threats? By damaging this community you would be doing the crooks a favor, is that what you want? I do not believe you can even if you expose whatever you have gained through - what means - the same as you accuse these members of doing??

We have been in touch and I know there are some on here you do not like. There are many things online that I do not like and as we daily see all the scams and new programs that entice others to get rich over night, we need more such communities as this one to assist in the effort of exposure and bring them down.

As far as my personal info, I think it is fairly well known all over the internet and I am not ashamed or frightened of exposure. In my futile attempt to fight cyber crime I have been threatened, slandered, and lied about - however, I have learned that people will believe what they want to anyway and I am no longer concerned with their attempts at humiliating me. It only shows what kind of persons they are and I know who and what I am.

Sorry it is long but RS members (true ones) stick together and don't take kindly to having our own members attacked especially here on the site.

Another thing I would like to point out, when a whistleblower is exposed they become a target for all the crooks. Why do you think our federal agents keep a low profile? We have a thread here in RS about a whistleblower from Canada who has been attacked by the businesses he was trying to expose and lost everything. He may even be facing a jail sentence because the crooks have the money & power to get it done.

littleroundman
11-21-2012, 09:17 AM
Your information is going to be listed like you to do everyone elses along with the unethical and any illegal activity you are involved in. Let's see how you like it. According to you the information is public and out there for all to see right? So why not put it all on one nice site. How is that pushing? What a joke.

Excellent.

Just make sure you spell my name right, will you ??

So, what's gonna happen after you publish the names and addresses ??

Will REALSCAM.com (www.realscam.com) fold up ???

Will littleroundman stop posting ???

Will cash gifting become legal ??

Will it become safe for cash gifters to attach their names, addresses and bank account details to their gifting activities ??

Will lutarian and scambusters provide details to back up their allegations ??

Stay tuned for the next exciting episode.

Poyol
11-21-2012, 09:30 AM
I will stand by all true RealScam members; unless of course they turn out to be scammers themselves, or other such criminals who benefit from hurting others.

Jason

littleroundman
11-21-2012, 09:39 AM
We have over 100 accounts on this forum and can keep making more.

AND ???

Now what ???

Poyol
11-21-2012, 10:04 AM
My name is Legion: for we are many.

scratchycat
11-21-2012, 10:11 AM
Well I did find out that scambusters has been banned. I suppose he will come back as timothy123...

Soapboxmom
11-21-2012, 11:41 AM
I missed another fine episode of the scammers go bananas. Though we scambusters have fun spying from the inside of these scams, did someone tell the cash gifters that enforcement agencies put in moles and infiltrate them???

scratchycat
11-21-2012, 12:59 PM
I missed another fine episode of the scammers go bananas. Though we scambusters have fun spying from the inside of these scams, did someone tell the cash gifters that enforcement agencies put in moles and infiltrate them???

Probably not!! :shocked:

lutarian
11-21-2012, 04:41 PM
Back to cash gifting uh? Here is a question for you since you are all about that. I know of a "cash gifting" program that is over 10 years old and has never been in trouble. How is that possible?

Oh. Hate to tell you but there are spies instead of your site also. People that post against programs that you think are your friends. The information that gets back to us is very interesting.



I missed another fine episode of the scammers go bananas. Though we scambusters have fun spying from the inside of these scams, did someone tell the cash gifters that enforcement agencies put in moles and infiltrate them???

lutarian
11-21-2012, 04:43 PM
Talking about PHH. Nice try.



I have never used illegal methods to gain information.
I give out my name ...

Anything else?

Jason

lutarian
11-21-2012, 04:46 PM
You know exactly who I am talking about since we have talked before. So you should know I am not talking about you whatsoever.





What thread was closed? Who has been banned? Sorry just checking in here and saw this stuff. Looks like there has been some exposure done that needed to be exposed and because of that you have decided to attack members of a scam-busting community. Real Scam is what the name implies, we post public information and you decide if it is true or not. I really don't keep up with the threads on cash gifting but I do see a lot of religious organizations, blogs, and people scamming others using the name of our God in vain. Some of them actually say God speaks through them. I am a Christian and I pray. God does answer prayer. I see these people saying they are channelers (I think that is a word!) and want people to send them money so that God will answer their prayers or they can channel messages to them. You can even send them money and they will pray for you. Do you actually think that is proper or would you consent to putting that in a category of "scamming"?

While some members here might do things in a way others might think unethical, it is a way that seems to bring out the 'crooks' to defend themselves by pointing fingers at RealScam. What are you doing to help prevent cyber crime? Do you want to see crooks continue with their crooked ways and people get hurt much worse than what you are saying this community has done. What about those they have hurt because of the way they have chosen to make a living and now that they are being exposed it is causing damage by showing the world just HOW they make a living?

You seem to keep threatening about the 'group' and your 100 or so members here in RS, well why not just do it and get it over with, why all the threats? By damaging this community you would be doing the crooks a favor, is that what you want? I do not believe you can even if you expose whatever you have gained through - what means - the same as you accuse these members of doing??

We have been in touch and I know there are some on here you do not like. There are many things online that I do not like and as we daily see all the scams and new programs that entice others to get rich over night, we need more such communities as this one to assist in the effort of exposure and bring them down.

As far as my personal info, I think it is fairly well known all over the internet and I am not ashamed or frightened of exposure. In my futile attempt to fight cyber crime I have been threatened, slandered, and lied about - however, I have learned that people will believe what they want to anyway and I am no longer concerned with their attempts at humiliating me. It only shows what kind of persons they are and I know who and what I am.

Sorry it is long but RS members (true ones) stick together and don't take kindly to having our own members attacked especially here on the site.

Another thing I would like to point out, when a whistleblower is exposed they become a target for all the crooks. Why do you think our federal agents keep a low profile? We have a thread here in RS about a whistleblower from Canada who has been attacked by the businesses he was trying to expose and lost everything. He may even be facing a jail sentence because the crooks have the money & power to get it done.

lutarian
11-21-2012, 04:48 PM
Yea. Who were very close to that street while you were posting. Just saying.


Ummn, yep, that's one of the streets in Perth.

Guess what ???

This year we progressed to having more than one street, AND, without hitching rails for the horses.

Ain't modern technology grand ??

Lil Ol' Radical Me
11-21-2012, 04:52 PM
I missed another fine episode of the scammers go bananas. Though we scambusters have fun spying from the inside of these scams, did someone tell the cash gifters that enforcement agencies put in moles and infiltrate them???

Me too. Thought for a moment that Monkey Brain was back. Didn't know he had a couple of cousins in Cash Gifting

lutarian
11-21-2012, 05:16 PM
You people are really showing your ignorance since you always mention cash gifting which is not what this is about.

I bet if I posted in Religion at least one of you would bring up cash gifting.


Me too. Thought for a moment that Monkey Brain was back. Didn't know he had a couple of cousins in Cash Gifting

Lil Ol' Radical Me
11-21-2012, 05:29 PM
You people are really showing your ignorance since you always mention cash gifting which is not what this is about.

I bet if I posted in Religion at least one of you would bring up cash gifting.

Duh? You mean you are not involved in cash gifting or you are not Monkey Brain's cousin? (You do sound as if you are related)

lutarian
11-21-2012, 05:41 PM
If you would read my posts you would know that this has nothing to do with cash gifting and you would also know I am not involved in cash gifting.

As far as "monkey brain". I have seen a bit of information about him but have no clue who he is.

littleroundman
11-21-2012, 07:16 PM
Yea. Who were very close to that street while you were posting. Just saying.

Really ???

Now THAT'S funny.

Totally wrong, but funny.

littleroundman
11-21-2012, 07:35 PM
Here is a question for you since you are all about that. I know of a "cash gifting" program that is over 10 years old and has never been in trouble. How is that possible?

I really don't know.

Probably the same reason Bernard Madoff was able to run his ponzi scam for over 20 years.

Your point being ?????

lutarian
11-21-2012, 08:18 PM
Point being this. If you had "spies" inside of the program there is no way it could have lasted that long.





I really don't know.

Probably the same reason Bernard Madoff was able to run his ponzi scam for over 20 years.

Your point being ?????

ProfHenryHiggins
11-22-2012, 12:09 AM
Point being this. If you had "spies" inside of the program there is no way it could have lasted that long.


Delane Potter, Texas police officer, was inside the inner circle of 2010blessings in Dec. of 2009. Whether his superiors listened or not is another matter entirely.

littleroundman
11-22-2012, 12:16 AM
Point being this. If you had "spies" inside of the program there is no way it could have lasted that long.

Sigh,

so many illegal cash gifting scams and so little time.

(Thinks to self: did someone infer we have spies in every cash gifting scam on the planet ??
Apparently I must have missed the memo )

lutarian
11-22-2012, 01:08 AM
Ten year running. This is a HUGE one. How hard could it be to get someone inside in 10 years?


Sigh,

so many illegal cash gifting scams and so little time.

(Thinks to self: did someone infer we have spies in every cash gifting scam on the planet ??
Apparently I must have missed the memo )

lutarian
11-22-2012, 01:10 AM
Crap! Ok. I actually have to agree with PHH on this one.



Delane Potter, Texas police officer, was inside the inner circle of 2010blessings in Dec. of 2009. Whether his superiors listened or not is another matter entirely.

littleroundman
11-22-2012, 01:31 AM
Ten year running. This is a HUGE one. How hard could it be to get someone inside in 10 years?

Not hard at all, I wouldn't imagine.

It would depend entirely on whether or not one actually wanted or needed to "get inside"

Perhaps you'd like to point out where on REALSCAM.com (www.realscam.com) someone has made the claim to be involved in exposing every illegal cash gifting scam on the planet.

We're a tiny handful of people on a tiny corner of the internet.

As far as I'm aware, no one other than cash gifting apologists and HYIP ponzi players and promoters have said otherwise.

You're not bad, though.

Now we're being criticized for what we DON'T do as well as what you and scambusters claim we DID do.

lutarian
11-22-2012, 01:43 AM
Now I have to agree with a second person. Uh! lol!. Well. Soapboxmom stated that there were people inside cash gifting programs so this is why I mentioned the one that is 10 years old and still running.

I am not bad uh? Is that some form of compliment? :)

Happy Thanksgiving to all. Seriously. No matter where you live or what you believe I hope you have a great Thanksgiving. I started mine early....how about everyone else? :)


Not hard at all, I wouldn't imagine.

It would depend entirely on whether or not one actually wanted or needed to "get inside"

Perhaps you'd like to point out where on REALSCAM.com (www.realscam.com) someone has made the claim to be involved in exposing every illegal cash gifting scam on the planet.

We're a tiny handful of people on a tiny corner of the internet.

As far as I'm aware, no one other than cash gifting apologists and HYIP ponzi players and promoters have said otherwise.

You're not bad, though.

Now we're being criticized for what we DON'T do as well as what you and scambusters claim we DID do.

scratchycat
11-22-2012, 09:16 AM
You know exactly who I am talking about since we have talked before. So you should know I am not talking about you whatsoever.

Yes and I have watched but still think what is happening is exposure of some 'programs' that need exposing. I know you don't mean me, didn't say you did but still why go after scam-busters and not the crooks. I do have a problem with that.

Happy Thanksgiving and yes I started cooking yesterday so have to get busy and finish up so we have that traditional Southern Cornbread Dressing with Baked Turkey and all the trimmings. May everyone have a good day whether you celebrate our Thanksgiving or not.