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Poyol
10-10-2012, 09:04 AM
Empower Network

Alarm bells

What do you think?

Does anybody know more about this 'lucrative business opportunity'?

Empower Network | Building a business while having a life. (http://www.empowernetwork.com/)

Jason

zonjulie
10-10-2012, 02:10 PM
Hello, I have participated in the Empower Network. Here is what the Empower Network offers you. It offers you the opportunity to make blogging easy fast and fun. Allowing you to blog on a platform which is an authority blog. Making it easier for your topics of interest to be seen. In addition it offers you the opportunity to offer others the option of blogging and being seen on this platform as well. Mr. David Wood does do all the selling for you and it does have the potential to be very lucrative for some people who join this network. What they don't tell you is that your twenty five dollar payment gets you access to blogging but then you need to pay an additional $19.99 to set up the payment processor and the processor puts a hold on your payments for a short amount of time before you actually receive it into your hands. Other than this Although as Mr. David Woods states the earnings of the people mentioned like Lawrence Tam are extraordinary so in other words don't expect it to happen overnight. With this being said 25.00 plus the $19.99 for the processing of unlimited payments is not a bad deal but it would be nice if they told the people this upfront instead, so I would say that if you have an extra forty bucks then go for it. It will pay you if and when you earn the money. Also included in the purchase is all the leads you capture of people who want to run a home based business in which you you own.

scratchycat
10-10-2012, 03:21 PM
Top Empower Network Leaders Jason C. Waite and Peter Day Share Stories | 12 K / Month (http://12kpermonth.donnybrookus.com/2012/09/27/top_empower_network_leaders_jason_c-_waite_and_peter_day_share_stories/)

They have made dozens (hundreds) of videos and it looks a lot like any other scam.


Top Empower Network Leaders Jason C. Waite and Peter Day Share Stories in San Diego, California.Here’s a link to Jason C. Waite’s blog http As well to learn more about Jason Waite and Peter Day check out the future videos and blogs to come up

I have not watched a video, they are sickening to me. It is all the same old, some old...

Domain Name: EMPOWERNETWORK.COM
Created on: 07-Jan-06
Expires on: 07-Jan-21 Last Updated on: 02-Nov-11
Registrant: Empower Network, LLC
3160 9th Ave North
Saint Petersburg, Florida 33713 United State
s Administrative Contact: Wood, David legal@empowernetwork.com
Empower Network, LLC
3160 9th Ave North
Saint Petersburg, Florida 33713
United States +1.8015429350
Technical Contact: Wood, David legal@empowernetwork.com
Empower Network, LLC
3160 9th Ave North
Saint Petersburg, Florida 33713
United States +1.8015429350
Domain servers in listed order:
NS.SOURCEDNS.COM
NS1.SOURCEDNS.COM

Looks like a group of young network marketers.

scratchycat
10-11-2012, 10:00 AM
It is advertised and promoted in Scamland by Denis Charest -
Bienvenue chez denischarest Does this free system work?


The Supreme Elite Team Tools: GOGVO Take a free tour !

My personnal Blog Are You Ready.. To Have Immediate Success In Your Business? (http://www.denischarest.com/)

The Latest Craze in Free Advertising... State-Of-The-Art-Mailer System - Email Marketing Is Evolving, Are You Ready To Join The "Click Rate" (CTR) Movement? (http://state-of-the-art-mailer.com/) And join for free now.

Do you need real business that's paid you 100% on :

and check Empower Network: Weird Marketing Tricks (http://empowernetwork.denischarest.com)

Thnak's to take time to visit me:

Denis Charest (community.adlandpro.com/members/343822.aspx)

Skype: dcharest1

Even the scammer queen is using the slogan to sell her own scam.

Become MORE Financially EMPOWERED at a Much Lower Cost!

By Kathleen Vanbeekom.

scratchycat
10-11-2012, 10:05 AM
Hello, I have participated in the Empower Network. Here is what the Empower Network offers you. It offers you the opportunity to make blogging easy fast and fun. Allowing you to blog on a platform which is an authority blog. Making it easier for your topics of interest to be seen. In addition it offers you the opportunity to offer others the option of blogging and being seen on this platform as well. Mr. David Wood does do all the selling for you and it does have the potential to be very lucrative for some people who join this network. What they don't tell you is that your twenty five dollar payment gets you access to blogging but then you need to pay an additional $19.99 to set up the payment processor and the processor puts a hold on your payments for a short amount of time before you actually receive it into your hands. Other than this Although as Mr. David Woods states the earnings of the people mentioned like Lawrence Tam are extraordinary so in other words don't expect it to happen overnight. With this being said 25.00 plus the $19.99 for the processing of unlimited payments is not a bad deal but it would be nice if they told the people this upfront instead, so I would say that if you have an extra forty bucks then go for it. It will pay you if and when you earn the money. Also included in the purchase is all the leads you capture of people who want to run a home based business in which you you own.

There is your catch line!! It will pay you if and when you earn the money

You invest $40 and think you can sit back and make money, no way! You will work your but* off and maybe get your investment back but earning with these type programs, you have to be a top leader or professional crook.

littleroundman
10-21-2012, 01:27 AM
No need for anyone at REALSCAM.com (http://www.realscam.com) to do anything.

Empower Network is quite capable of doing itself in , all on it's ownsome:

http://imageshack.us/a/img72/1553/empearn.jpg

31% of average weekly earners earn $4624 per YEAR.

55% of average weekly earners earn $1386 per YEAR

Empower Network income disclosure statement (http://www.empowernetwork.com/income.php)

Anyone who pays money to try and buck the trend is welcome to it.

kschang
10-21-2012, 01:48 AM
Empower network is best described as Article Farm meets MLM.

The difference is most article farms operate for free, but you need to PAY to do Empowered.

And since Google have pretty much fried all the article farms with Panda and Penguin updates, Empowered never really had a chance.

Also note that they have a definition of "active affiliate", which means the percentages shown are NOT of all affiliates.

buckyuk
10-23-2012, 11:44 AM
ok, so far we have established that this is a scam because... they tell you straight up, you wont make money if you dont work hard. The audacity of them.

How do i vote this up to the top of the scam leaderboard? It should defo be above that banners broker lot who tell you that actually, you can grow money on trees.

kschang
10-28-2012, 04:58 PM
@buckyuk -- it's a scam only in the sense that it convinces you to pay for something that should be free: a blogging platform. They disguise it by adding all the MLM stuff around it like lessons, seminars, etc. And who's doing the seminars? Head of Empower, of course. Who wrote the lessons, Head of Empower, who else. It's a fancy version of "MLM Coach", albeit reworded to emphasize the income opportunity, not that you're paying for his "training".

In other words, it's MLM about MLM. :)

Here's an outline of six types of MLMers, should explain how this type of people think.

Six Types of Network Marketers: which type are you? (http://kschang.hubpages.com/hub/Six-Types-of-Network-Marketers-which-type-are-you)

ccole
12-14-2012, 04:14 PM
I still believe in working smart and not spending $$$ to do that. I do not need to be "EMPOWERED"

littleroundman
12-14-2012, 07:56 PM
I still believe in working smart and not spending $$$ to do that. I do not need to be "EMPOWERED"

I always find it funny that people think working "smart" means sending money off to someone else.

In my book, that would be working "stupid"

path2prosperity
12-15-2012, 11:40 AM
See Kevin Huska, the owner of Empower Network, hawking his services his services on Scamlandpro.

KevinHuska claims to be the ownwer of Empower Network and he offers his services coaching newbies

Kevin Huska's Adlandpro profile.

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/members/knhinc7.aspx then community.adlandpro.com/members/knhinc7.aspx

I have uploaded a screenshot on my7 own server jusy in case the evidence gets deleted

Kevin Huska Scamland profile. (http://path2prosperity.com/images/scamlandhuska.GIF)

Kevin Huska's blog (http://knhinc.weebly.com/).

Quote from Kevin's blog

"Arent you tired of living life in a dream? A dream you keep playing out in your mind, but that's as far as it get's? Maybe you have some personal thing's going on that you need to deal with and that is what is keeping you from making ALL of your dreams come true. I know for me, year's of addiction and living life in my "not so good head" kept me from making my dreams come true....A happy life, a happy wife and children, a life free of financial burden! Well I got clean, cleared my head up and made my dreams come true and so can you. Click on the link's below to see how I was able to live my life and make my dreams come true and now, I'm here to help other's do the same. I am living proof. The picture to the left I personally drew in the sand on Our 14th Wedding Anniversary was on our first ever Bahama Cruise after coming addiction free, with a cleared mind, and full of financial freedom.

KEVIN HUSKA
702-371-9684
Visit my links below to see some proof of who we are and what we have to offer to you:
My Blog: Kevin Huska's Empower Network Blog | Building a business while having a life. (http://www.empowernetwork.com/knhinc)
True Story: Empower Network: Weird Recruiting Trick (http://www.empowernetwork.com/truestory.php?id=knhinc)
True Story2: Empower Network: Weird Recruiting Trick (http://www.empowernetwork.com/truestory2.php?id=knhinc)
Commission Loophole: Almost a Secret (http://www.empowernetwork.com/almostasecret.php?id=knhinc)
Marketing Tips: Almost a Secret (http://www.empowernetwork.com/weirdmarketricks.php?id=knhinc)
3 things anyone can do: Empower Network: They love to buy (http://www.empowernetwork.com/theylovetobuy.php?id=knhinc)

Jump Right In: www.empowernetwork.com/join.php?id=knhinc

P.S. We DO NOT sale any email's or information that you may film out in one of our form's.
And for help from life's hurt's, pain's, addiction's (whether current or past), find a Recovery place that I have been a part of for 5 years and have personally seen many people recover, become clean and have seen many marriage's saved (including mine) visit: Celebrate Recovery (http://www.celebraterecovery.com) and find an area near you. May God Bless."

Whip
12-15-2012, 02:16 PM
I guess when it comes to ripping people off, one who hasn't done it would definitely need a 'coach'.

JustTooMuchTime
12-21-2012, 12:50 AM
I still believe in working smart and not spending $$$ to do that. I do not need to be "EMPOWERED"

OK. I'm confused by this statement as you have Empower Network as one of the recommended programs on your site (bottom of page):
Club Asteria Review | Does Club Asteria Scam People? (http://internetbusinessinnercircle.com/club-asteria/)

Beacon
12-21-2012, 09:02 AM
Central question is this - Where does the revenue in empower network come from?
As far as i can see it comes from people lower down from you buying empower network products which seem to be lectures about empower network.
http://www.empowernetwork.com/download/EN-compensation-model.pdf


Currently, all of our products operate on a ʻdynamic powerlineʼ system, where the 2nd, 4th, 6th and
every 5th sale of every affiliate pass to the qualifying sponsor, and you keep 100% of the purchase and
ongoing price on all other personal sales on products you qualify for.


Which to me says "we get the money first" You but a product you sell it to someone else you keep the third ones money and the fifth and we get four and six. They do the same for you. In short, if you get six people and each of them get six, and each of them six,
you will pass on the money from four of the the six to us
and of the 36 people your six get you will get the money from 24 which means your six will pass on 12 to us
And the 36 below them will have to get 1296 subscribers but before they do we will get 16 of every 26


Customers (non affiliates) also have the ability to refer other customers. Although they donʼt receive
commissions, they have the ability to get a free product, or a free subscription, by maintaining 2 active
customer referrals of that product.

we allow this net to be incomplete but only by you buying up two spaces yourself instead of six spaces and us getting the revenue stream from them downstream and it not going to you.

In short, the way it looks to me, the money you get comes from people lower down the chain and not from outside the system.
Which by the way is the definition of a Ponzi scheme.

littleroundman
12-21-2012, 09:49 AM
In short, the way it looks to me, the money you get comes from people lower down the chain and not from outside the system.
Which by the way is the definition of a Ponzi scheme.

Ponzi or pyramid, it simply doesn't matter.

Let's just call it an "endless chain recruitment scheme" and be done with it.

Whatever it's called, smart people will stay away and the get-rich-quickers will flock to it.

Beacon
12-28-2012, 09:55 PM
Ponzi or pyramid, it simply doesn't matter.

Let's just call it an "endless chain recruitment scheme" and be done with it.

Whatever it's called, smart people will stay away and the get-rich-quickers will flock to it.

Fair enough but by definition a Ponzi is a scheme whereby the payoff/income for early investors comes from the subscription of later investors.
Thus the "endless recruitment" stipulation. The central point is "where does the money come from"? THe poijnt is the money comes from inside the system from later investors. In Ireland for example this happened to banks e.g. Anglo Irish. They loaned developers money to build property. then when the developers couldnt pay back and share prices were dropping they used their own money to buy shares in the bank!
Chairman Sean FitzPatrick, and CEO David Drumm, and board member Lars Bradshaw had taken out loans in order to purchase Anglo Irish shares.

littleroundman
12-28-2012, 10:25 PM
Fair enough but by definition a Ponzi is a scheme whereby the payoff/income for early investors comes from the subscription of later investors.
Thus the "endless recruitment" stipulation. The central point is "where does the money come from"? THe poijnt is the money comes from inside the system from later investors. In Ireland for example this happened to banks e.g. Anglo Irish. They loaned developers money to build property. then when the developers couldnt pay back and share prices were dropping they used their own money to buy shares in the bank!
Chairman Sean FitzPatrick, and CEO David Drumm, and board member Lars Bradshaw had taken out loans in order to purchase Anglo Irish shares.

The point is, Beacon,

many of these pseudo MLMs aren't "A" ponzi or "A" pyramid scheme.

It's one of the methods by which fraudsters throw many potential victims off track by pointing out their particular scam-du-jour isn't a "pure" ponzi or pyramid.

On a purely mathematical basis, ponzis don't work in the long term and neither do pyramid schemes.

Put the two together, con people into believing the particular fraud isn't a "pure" ponzi / pyramid and you have a recipe for disaster.

Ask around your friends and acquaintances, how many of them have ever heard of a "ponzi" OR a "pyramid" ??

Of those that do, how many of them truly understand how either works.

Better still, ask the victims of the last few "next big thing" HYIP ponzi and pyramid schemes if, even after their money disappeared, THEY understand how it was done.

ProfHenryHiggins
12-28-2012, 10:33 PM
The serial fraudsters also put a lot of effort into misleading their victims as to what defines either a Ponzi or a pyramid.

littleroundman
12-28-2012, 10:44 PM
The serial fraudsters also put a lot of effort into misleading their victims as to what defines either a Ponzi or a pyramid.

Which is why in the last few prosecutions, the terms "ponzi" and "pyramid" are used purely descriptively by prosecutors.

The charges have been of "fraud" "wirefraud" "money laundering" "conspiracy to commit fraud" and "conspiracy to commit money laundering"

Unlike get-rich-quickers and those behind pseudo MLMs such as Empower Network, whether an "opportunity" is either and ponzi or a pyramid or a combination of both matters little to prosecutors when fraud and money laundering have occurred.

Neither should it matter to victims or potential victims.

littleroundman
01-03-2013, 01:52 AM
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/448/empower.gif

Empower Network Income statement (http://www.empowernetwork.com/income.php)

Here ya go.

In Empowers' own words.

54% of average weekly earners earn $1399 PER YEAR

That's TOTAL INCOME. Total income BEFORE expenses

33% of average weekly earners earn $4480 PER YEAR.

That's TOTAL INCOME. Total income BEFORE expenses

That means, 87% of all Empower Networks' average weekly earners' average income is less than $4480 PER YEAR

No mention of outgoings or expenses, INCOME

littleroundman
02-15-2013, 06:41 AM
For a company selling itself based on its' supposed "Search Engine Optimization" results, Empower Network sure as heck doesn't show up too well:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/scams%202/empower_zps824edd87.jpg

Alexa Empower Network Statistics Summary (http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/empowernetwork.com)



Yesterday
5.1%
-18%
http://www.alexa.com/images/arrows/down_arrow.gif



5.1% of the entire Empower Networks' traffic came from a search engine

Can we assume the other 94.9% of the NETWORKS' traffic came from inside Empower itself and not from new visitors using search engines ??

More evidence Empower Network is little more than a barely disguised cash gifting based get-rich-quick scheme

littleroundman
02-16-2013, 12:54 AM
Oh dear,

when YouTube singles out videos and bans them from among the millions uploaded every day, you just KNOW you're promoting a get-rich-quick scheme.

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/455/you1w.jpg

YouTube Banned Videos | Dana Che's Empower Network Blog (http://www.empowernetwork.com/danawilliams/blog/youtube-banned-videos/)

path2prosperity
02-16-2013, 02:40 AM
Empower Network seller Carl Haavaldsen recommended by Adlandpro shill Dave Cotrrell. (http://www.realscam.com/f9/scamlandpro-your-one-stop-site-all-scams-1276/index50.html#post45728)

Dave Cotrrell and Carl Haavaldesen sales spiel on Linkdin (http://path2prosperity.com/images/carllinkdin.GIF)

scratchycat
02-18-2013, 09:27 AM
Facebook has a group "Empower Network" -


Why is Empower Network so special?

There has been a huge impact for its unique approach by the 100% commissions paid when you join, compared to 50% like most other affiliate or network marketing offers.

Unlike other online businesses, the Empower Network will allow you can start from a little of $25 per month and upgrade for more leverage and huge earning potential.

Get in here ->
http://socialmediabar.com/david-wood-almost-a-secret
- Shantha Rodrigo
Founder,
Money Star Network


*** This is not the official Empower Network Page and there is no any Official Empower Network Page out there on Facebook called Empower Network. If you want to communicate with Empower Network, you need to use the Customer Service contact details.

https://www.facebook.com/EmpoweNetwork?fref=ts

I saw where a friend was thinking about getting and asking opinions on it...

littleroundman
02-20-2013, 02:53 AM
It seems YouTube has woken up to the fact it's services are being used to promote the Empower Network fraud.

Do a quick Google using the terms: "empower network suspended youtube" and you'll see 10 pages of people complaining YouTube is systematically suspending the accounts of anyone attempting to promote Empower Network via YouTube.

littleroundman
02-20-2013, 03:09 AM
As far back as August 2012 Facebook was banning Empower Network related sites:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/scams%202/emp_zps857cb7b8.jpg

Empower Network blog (http://www.empowernetwork.com/m3l/blog/urgent-facebook-attacks-and-bans-the-empower-network/)

ProfHenryHiggins
02-20-2013, 12:45 PM
It seems YouTube has woken up to the fact it's services are being used to promote the Empower Network fraud.

Do a quick Google using the terms: "empower network suspended youtube" and you'll see 10 pages of people complaining YouTube is systematically suspending the accounts of anyone attempting to promote Empower Network via YouTube.


That's the Youtube Deputy programme in action, LRM.

path2prosperity
02-21-2013, 03:42 AM
Empower Network is hawked by Scamlander Michele Cook

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/members/MasteringIncome.aspx

See what Michele Cook AKA MasteringIncome describes as her 1RatedHomeBusiness. It is none other than Empower Network.
Type http://www then adlandpro.com/ad/1473243/1-Rated-Home-Business.aspx?index=0&total=2&

See Michelle's methods for tutoring online.

Type http:// then simple2advertise.com/c/?u=masteringincome&c=personal2&ad=

These type of methods which she call "tutoring" are enough to tell anybody that the opportunity is a load of crap.

scratchycat
03-03-2013, 09:02 AM
I need to check out MMG and TG for more on Empower Network. Does anyone know what is happening with this now? A Zeekler promoter is now into this one, still I fail to understand the mentality of getting into these 'programs', especially after one just went down that you were involved with. Is it like train-hopping?

iPhone vs iPad: Which is the Correct Choice for Networkers? | Agnes Kivuvani's Empower Network Blog (http://www.empowernetwork.com/getconnected/blog/iphone-vs-ipad-which-is-the-correct-choice-for-networkers/)

path2prosperity
03-03-2013, 01:57 PM
Empower Network Media. (http://www.empowernetworkmedia.com/partners/)

Copy

Our SUCCESS would not exist without the help of our strategic PARTNERS!

Oscar 300x225 %photo
They deserve a standing ovation.

AdlandPro: Get Linked from over 16,000 sites with one click.


Adrek a %photo

Aweber: Email marketing software. Send email newsletters & autoresponders with a few clicks.

scratchycat
03-03-2013, 05:23 PM
The big promoter over in MMG is none other than Ernie Rhyker Kasteleijn.

3272

Check out his FB account - https://www.facebook.com/rhyker2u

Empowernetwork.com Site Info (http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/empowernetwork.com#)

Not so good as posted on their lead in page.

Empower Network - 10,000 New Blogging Customers In February 2013 (http://www.businessforhome.org/2013/03/empower-network-10000-new-blogging-customers-in-february-2013/)

scratchycat
03-03-2013, 05:28 PM
Tracey Walker from Atlanta, Georgia, USA has hit in January 2013 the $67,000 per month mark with her Empower Network distributorship. Since starting her Empower Network distributorship in October 2011 she has made close to $400,000+ as of february 2013.

You think??!!!

Tracey Walker - Empower Network Hits $67,000 Per Month (http://www.businessforhome.org/2013/02/tracey-walker-empower-network-hits-67000-per-month/)

Disclaimer:

Empower Network Disclaimer:

The results mentioned above and below are extraordinary, and by no means typical. To view Empower Network's full income disclosure document and the average earnings please visit: Empower Network: Income Disclosure (http://www.empowernetwork.com/income.php)

Empower Network pays a commission pursuant to the current compensation plan, which is available here. The data shown below is current for the date range shown and is updated frequently. Study our commission structure and the data below. Discuss our company with professional advisors and experienced affiliate marketers before deciding to purchase or promote any of Empower Network's products. Empower Network does not guarantee that you will make any money from your use or promotion of our products and services.

The amount of hours worked required to achieve the stated income varies by participant. The estimates provided above were the result of an informal sampling of Empower Network participants. Basically, it takes hard work to make substantial income in this business, and some people make no money at all. The income statistics above are for all active affiliates world wide for the dates specified above, are based in US dollars, and updated daily. An 'active affiliate' is defined as someone who: 1) Has executed an affiliate application; 2) has qualified to earn commissions; 3) has received at least one direct commission in the last 30 days; 4) has either an approved merchant account, or integrated a payment method in the members area; and 5) has not been terminated, or chosen to discontinue for any reason.
...........

littleroundman
03-03-2013, 08:12 PM
You think??!!!

Tracey Walker - Empower Network Hits $67,000 Per Month (http://www.businessforhome.org/2013/02/tracey-walker-empower-network-hits-67000-per-month/)

Disclaimer:

Empower Network Disclaimer:

The results mentioned above and below are extraordinary, and by no means typical.

http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/6855/empowerave.jpg

54% of average weekly earners receive an annualized average amount of $1411

32% of average weekly earners receive an annualized average amount of $4329

5% of average weekly earners receive an annualized average amount of $11,123

However you cut it, that's a whole pile of people not making anywhere near Ms Walkers' fantasy $67,000 a MONTH

scratchycat
03-04-2013, 10:07 AM
I have a new follower on Twitter!!!

Empower Network | 100% Commissions Mastermind Blog | Michael Percy (http://www.empowernetwork.com/MichaelPercy/)

Hmmmm....

path2prosperity
03-04-2013, 12:35 PM
An entity known as Empower Network Media is being hawked on Adlandpro
empowernetworkmedia (http://www.empowernetworkmedia.com/partners/)

When ponzi pimp Carl Haavarldsen pushes the program on Adlandpro, it is time to RUN.

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2606090/Join-Empower-Network-for-FREE-and-See-Why-So-Many-Are-Now-Joining.aspx

BoBosworth56
03-04-2013, 05:59 PM
I saw this posted from an EN member on one of the EN facebook pages...

"I just started in the company today and today I figured my checkbook and I'm $132 in the hole!! I honestly feel that the Lord led me to your company and I know this will work!!"

So sad that this person is already struggling and thinks that she will now be saved by the almighty EN. Some people just aren't too bright.

Michael75065
03-31-2013, 07:29 AM
There is your catch line!! It will pay you if and when you earn the money

You invest $40 and think you can sit back and make money, no way! You will work your but* off and maybe get your investment back but earning with these type programs, you have to be a top leader or professional crook.


Beware of Empower Network.

Big Ideal Mastermind is part of Empower Network. This pure hype and BS They get you join for $45. Then they tell you that this is the basic level and the training and money you make at this level is not very good and need to upgrade good to the $500 level. or $1000 or all in at $3500. They don't tell you that up front..

Read this.
The hard work will be based on where you're positioned. For so...meone positioned at the bottom it would take 200 sales in a month to get to $5000 per month residual. *NOT taking into account passups* Someone at the $125 silver level it would take only 40 sales. Gold level - 10 sales Platinum level - 5 sales and Diamond level - 2 sales is $6000 a month. It's much less "work" to do 2,5 or 10 sales in a month than it is to do 200. That's why Vick is always talking about how important positioning is.

Wish They told me all this before joining that you needed to up grade or go all in at $3500. They don't tell that to get you to join.

Be very careful joining Empower network and a lot of hype for their training was the biggest disappointment. Charging an arm and a leg for a few hours of recorded webinars of "this is how you publish a blog post" kind of training is... well, it's outrageous.

Of course, Empower Network is more than happy to point fingers rather than addressing the real concerns from both their members and people who are "thinking about it".

P.S. Just found out you have to pay $145 month for training on blogging and using a blog that is $1800 a year. I don't feel right about this. See how David Woods and David sharp are getting rich on a overprice hyped crap and very expensive training on blogging Oh my god. People are falling for this? Help me lord.

I can't push stuff like that and lie to people. I need your opinion people please. $145 month fee for what? Over hyped training and a over priced blog $1800 a month.
Gurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Oh yes and have use there autoresponder, Aweber and getresonse and there not cheap. I am kind of pissed off. Not free more expense.

They never told me this.
need go to my bank before it I to late.

Michael Ladd
I feel I just got scammed.

Michael75065
03-31-2013, 07:44 AM
Beware of Empower Network.

Big Ideal Mastermind is part of Empower Network. This pure hype and BS They get you join for $45. Then they tell you that this is the basic level and the training and money you make at this level is not very good and need to upgrade good to the $500 level. or $1000 or all in at $3500. They don't tell you that up front..

Read this.
The hard work will be based on where you're positioned. For so...meone positioned at the bottom it would take 200 sales in a month to get to $5000 per month residual. *NOT taking into account passups* Someone at the $125 silver level it would take only 40 sales. Gold level - 10 sales Platinum level - 5 sales and Diamond level - 2 sales is $6000 a month. It's much less "work" to do 2,5 or 10 sales in a month than it is to do 200. That's why Vick is always talking about how important positioning is.

Wish They told me all this before joining that you needed to up grade or go all in at $3500. They don't tell that to get you to join.

Be very careful joining Empower network and a lot of hype for their training was the biggest disappointment. Charging an arm and a leg for a few hours of recorded webinars of "this is how you publish a blog post" kind of training is... well, it's outrageous.

Of course, Empower Network is more than happy to point fingers rather than addressing the real concerns from both their members and people who are "thinking about it".

P.S. Just found out you have to pay $145 month for training on blogging and using a blog that is $1800 a year. I don't feel right about this. See how David Woods and David sharp are getting rich on a overprice hyped crap and very expensive training on blogging Oh my god. People are falling for this? Help me lord.

I can't push stuff like that and lie to people. I need your opinion people please. $145 month fee for what? Over hyped training and a over priced blog $1800 a month.
Gurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Oh yes and have use there autoresponder, Aweber and getresonse and there not cheap. I am kind of pissed off. Not free more expense.

They never told me this.
need go to my bank before it I to late.

Michael Ladd
I feel I just got scammed.

hbhanot
04-29-2013, 04:11 PM
Hey its real and getting results to even kids now a days. This is so soothing that even kids are making money with empower network now.

ProfHenryHiggins
04-29-2013, 06:35 PM
Hey its real and getting results to even kids now a days. This is so soothing that even kids are making money with empower network now.

Considering that that is below Empower's age limit (see their own rules), one has to wonder about the ethics, Harry.

And speaking of ethics, you were equally certain that Zeek Rewards was legal, back in Jan. of 2012. Look where that went.

scratchycat
04-30-2013, 09:30 AM
Hey its real and getting results to even kids now a days. This is so soothing that even kids are making money with empower network now.

You are using 'Children' to promote this trash, very unethical! I don't see that video as any proof - mainly cause I don't watch it. Marketers will use anything dead or alive to promote their schemes.

littleroundman
04-30-2013, 09:44 AM
You are using 'Children' to promote this trash, very unethical! I don't see that video as any proof - mainly cause I don't watch it. Marketers will use anything dead or alive to promote their schemes.

Ummnn,

a 12 year old child comes on stage and says he has earned $12,000 in 4 months with Empower Network.

Ah, for the good old days when fraudsters actually had to put some thought in their fraud du jour before they could fool people.

Now all they have to do is trot out any old child and the get-rich-quickers can't get their cheque books out quick enough.

Anyone actually verified Jesse Monsma is who Empower says he is ???

Seen the cheques ???

Read Jesses' Empower blogs ???

Accessed his bank accounts ???

scratchycat
04-30-2013, 04:30 PM
Ummnn,

a 12 year old child comes on stage and says he has earned $12,000 in 4 months with Empower Network.

Ah, for the good old days when fraudsters actually had to put some thought in their fraud du jour before they could fool people.

Now all they have to do is trot out any old child and the get-rich-quickers can't get their cheque books out quick enough.

Anyone actually verified Jesse Monsma is who Empower says he is ???

Seen the cheques ???

Read Jesses' Empower blogs ???

Accessed his bank accounts ???

I am glad you were able to watch it and I was sure there was NO PROOF on anything - like a copy of the check but yes, folks believe this tripe.

scratchycat
05-01-2013, 08:20 AM
Found this ad on a friend's page and started searching but have not been able to come up with anything yet. I went over to MMG and Empower Network is being tooted loud and strong still. I did a search on Mpower Income and it took me to Empower Network. Does anyone know if they are connected? mpowerincome dot com has hidden registrant. Really need to warn this person but I need more information. Please post if you know anything.

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ribshaw
05-02-2013, 08:23 PM
I did a little digging after watching a fun filled video, well 1/2 of the video with the two Daves (Dave Sharpe and Dave Wood) from Empower Network. One thing I found interesting is the video is shot to make you believe that Dave Sharpe lives in a huge mansion and the promo leads you to believe massive wealth is a click away. Mpower Income (http://mpowerincome.com/)

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This is the corporate information on Empower LLC, the addresses are both related to Empower.
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This is the street level view of the office building, which is not owned by Empower LLC. Nor does it appear to be very opulent when contrasted with the video.

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ribshaw
05-02-2013, 08:35 PM
Part II Sharpe Marketing and Sharp Consulting.

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And here is the street level for that address (I am not 100% on this picture), but the tax value is listed at $103,000 and the property is not owned by the Daves or Empower.

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So my conclusion based on years of negative thinking and dreamstealing is these guys are full of crap about owning mansions and making six figures a month from Empower. One could argue perhaps that they want "privacy", but in the video above they talk about having people over to the house for a mastermind group. And generally people who want privacy don't post videos about themselves all over the interwebs. It just does not add up, especially the house pictured above. To be sure we all know people with tons of money that live in houses just like this. As a general rule they would not be caught dead flashing it in your face and telling you that you could be just like them in 90 short days.

ribshaw
05-03-2013, 08:56 AM
I found this web page created by David Sharpe at the bottom it lists the 9th Ave address that for one reason or another he seems to still be using as a business address.

About David | David Sharpe.info (http://davidsharpe.info/my-story/)

Here is what I find the most troubling and it is certainly not unheard of with "Gurus", his story seems to have changed. In the video above he went on and on about how bad things were in his life seemingly before Empower. But on this page he says and I quote "In every position I held I quickly made a name for myself and was either promoted or made a leader of a division".
So which is it, was he just another struggling guy, or has he always been a golden child? When it comes to money if any inconsistencies start to pop up in people's stories it is best to move on.

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scratchycat
05-03-2013, 10:49 AM
It is probably one of those deals where people get this 'big business' started out of their house and sell a lot of hype to gullible listeners. Sounds like you nailed Mr. Not so Sharp!! Good digging there Ribshaw!!!

scratchycat
05-04-2013, 09:25 AM
David Wood and Dave Sharpe are the two scumbags behind the Empower Network scam and by their own admission, they were couple of miserable losers way before they have devised together how to suck people’s money and soul:


Back a few years ago we didn’t know each other, but we were both trying to promote various home based business opportunities… and failing miserably.

David and Dave were always pushing dubious projects and they always lacked the basic moral scruple as they have swindled others. They hadn’t suddenly grown a sense of conscience, they are the same two crooked rascals as they ever were.

But now they are lurking behind a facade of legitimacy and an army of naive followers which try to recoup their forfeitures. They are still prowling in the darkness, waiting to devour the next prey.

Not my words, I just copied them from HERE! (http://www.glancingweb.com/1281/empowered-to-expose-the-empower-network-fraud)

scratchycat
05-04-2013, 09:40 AM
Looks like Facebook dropped its bars and now EN is growing in numbers.

https://www.facebook.com/EmpowerNetwork.INC?fref=ts

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http://empowernetwork.sharedby.co/share/9dbFDA

In case you cannot read that last paragraph here is the text for it:

The amount of hours worked required to achieve the stated income varies by participant. The estimates provided above were the result of an informal sampling of Empower Network participants. Basically, it takes hard work to make substantial income in this business, and some people make no money at all. The income statistics above are for all enrolled affiliates, active and inactive, and active affiliates world wide for the dates specified above, are based in US dollars, and updated daily. In Empower Network, our active affiliates earn substantially more income. An 'active affiliate' is defined as someone who: 1) Has executed an affiliate application; 2) has qualified to earn commissions; 3) has received at least one direct commission in the last 30 days; 4) has either an approved merchant account, or integrated a payment method in the members area; and 5) has not been terminated, or chosen to discontinue for any reason.

You still think this EN is not much like a Ponzi??

ribshaw
05-04-2013, 09:47 AM
I found this little snippet over on one of the PS Facebook pages. My experience is most people don't lie about losing $12,000 when they are making money hand over fist.

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littleroundman
05-04-2013, 10:13 AM
Potential new Empower recruits would do well to check the last 4 lines of the Empower Income Disclosure statement:

http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/9392/new1ut.jpg

95% of "Active Affiliates" earned less than $3828 ANNUALLY in the reporting period

in fact:

45% of "Active Affiliates" earned less than $312 for a whole 12 months

31% of "Active Affiliates" earned less than $636 for the whole 12 months.

BoBosworth56
05-04-2013, 10:27 AM
Wow! How could any sane person join after seeing that stat?

Basically, 45% of these people who are involved make .85 cents a day. Let's put that into perspective. The US minimum wage is $7.25 an hour. A person who is making min wage and working at a fast food restaurant for approximately 20 hours a week is making 24 times more than 45% of people involved in Empower Network. THINK ABOUT THAT!

BoBosworth56
05-04-2013, 10:34 AM
To make it look even worse that fast food worker is making 2-24 times more than 95% of active Empower Network affiliates. lol

ribshaw
05-04-2013, 10:47 AM
To make it look even worse that fast food worker is making 2-24 times more than 95% of active Empower Network affiliates. lol

That's pretty funny! I have often thought that if some of these people would just take whatever time they spend trying to get rich and pick up a second job and save all the money somewhere safe they would end up much better off.

BoBosworth56
05-04-2013, 10:55 AM
That's pretty funny! I have often thought that if some of these people would just take whatever time they spend trying to get rich and pick up a second job and save all the money somewhere safe they would end up much better off.

You're absolutely right but unfortunately they buy into the fantasy of making lots of money in what is perceived to be an easy manner to do so. Heck, it's like when I buy a lottery ticket. I don't do it often but when I do all I am thinking about is that I might hit the jackpot and the things I could do with the money. I rarely think of the odds lol.

BoBosworth56
05-04-2013, 01:47 PM
Littleroundman,

Do you think those numbers posted are profit or do they not take into account the monthly fees? It's bad either way but that 45% who earned $312 looks a lot worse if you take into consideration the $25 monthly fee they pay. It would then mean that 45% made $12 a year.

path2prosperity
05-04-2013, 03:51 PM
Littleroundman,

Do you think those numbers posted are profit or do they not take into account the monthly fees? It's bad either way but that 45% who earned $312 looks a lot worse if you take into consideration the $25 monthly fee they pay. It would then mean that 45% made $12 a year.

They also made fools of themselves!

path2prosperity
05-04-2013, 03:52 PM
Has anybody any idea when this started? I have seen it around for ages. I am sure that it predates Facebook.

Wasn't there a page of advertising it with Yuie and Adlandpro

path2prosperity
05-04-2013, 04:21 PM
Mark Nachreiner travels around Europe to help people? (http://www.empowernetwork.com/kingmarkalan/blog/empower-network-12-year-old-boy-from-holland-makes-12000-in-4-months/)

Quote Mark

" I love to travel the United States and the world with my beautiful wife whom I love more than words can express. I joined Empower Network to earn income in addition to my day job. "

Bogdan Fiedur of Scamlandpro tells his community members that Mark Nachreiner is there to help people in their community.

Bogdan Fiedur blog about Mark Nachreiner help to Adlandpro members. (http://www.adlandconnection.com/2013/03/the-mission-of-adlandprocom-is-to-help.html)

baylee
05-04-2013, 06:52 PM
Mark Nachreiner travels around Europe to help people? (http://www.empowernetwork.com/kingmarkalan/blog/empower-network-12-year-old-boy-from-holland-makes-12000-in-4-months/)

Quote Mark

" I love to travel the United States and the world with my beautiful wife whom I love more than words can express. I joined Empower Network to earn income in addition to my day job. "

Bogdan Fiedur of Scamlandpro tells his community members that Mark Nachreiner is there to help people in their community.

Bogdan Fiedur blog about Mark Nachreiner help to Adlandpro members. (http://www.adlandconnection.com/2013/03/the-mission-of-adlandprocom-is-to-help.html)

I hope he (mark) doesn't give up his day job for stand up comedy. That goes for BogDog also. What a joke!

littleroundman
05-04-2013, 08:06 PM
Littleroundman,

Do you think those numbers posted are profit or do they not take into account the monthly fees? It's bad either way but that 45% who earned $312 looks a lot worse if you take into consideration the $25 monthly fee they pay. It would then mean that 45% made $12 a year.

No, they don't take into account monthly fees OR any expenses involved in making that income.

They are INCOME only

littleroundman
05-04-2013, 08:46 PM
Relax, Empower members.

You've got serial ponzi pimp Simon Stepsys on board, flashing his earnings

His last HYIP ponzi, Banners Broker has crashed and burned, now he's come to help himself to Empower Network members' money.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/scams%202/simon6_zps70eb80d3.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/scams%202/simon4_zpsa9967529.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/scams%202/simon2_zps0c4ed25e.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/scams%202/simon1_zpsb13e72ef.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/scams%202/simon8_zpsd221b473.jpg

BoBosworth56
05-04-2013, 09:56 PM
I made comments on a few videos on youtube and they are now instantly labeling me as the infamous YouTube flaggers that have shut down videos. I haven't flagged a single EN video but whatever makes them sleep better at night. They don't realize that there are several people on youtube who flag videos and that YouTube is the ones who decide to remove videos or not.

ribshaw
05-04-2013, 10:12 PM
Oh you just have to love the comedians on the internet. Now why on earth would Emposer Network allow someone still on probation for Grand Theft handle such large checks?


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KELOLAND.com | Insurance Agent Sentenced On Grand Theft (http://www.keloland.com/newsdetail.cfm/insurance-agent-sentenced-on-grand-theft/?id=89083)

laidback
05-05-2013, 11:46 AM
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Translation: Hey, I'll be trying other cases in front of this a**hole and if I say anything I'm screwed...!

BoBosworth56
05-06-2013, 03:51 PM
I was checking out some comments on one of the EN facebook pages. Almost every comment is someone trying to "help" people who are struggling, which basically means they are just trying to get people to join their team.

Also, I apologize if it has been discussed before but whoever created the Profitable Sunrise page on fb is now using that page to pimp Empower Network.

kschang
05-06-2013, 06:36 PM
Wow! How could any sane person join after seeing that stat?
Basically, 45% of these people who are involved make .85 cents a day. Let's put that into perspective. The US minimum wage is $7.25 an hour. A person who is making min wage and working at a fast food restaurant for approximately 20 hours a week is making 24 times more than 45% of people involved in Empower Network. THINK ABOUT THAT!

Actually, that's pretty much standard across all MLM, not just empowered.

A direct selling association spokeswoman told Forbes writer that "median annual income of a direct sales consultant in 2011 is $2400".

(see Can You Really Make Money In Direct Sales? - Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/nextavenue/2013/04/01/can-you-really-make-money-in-direct-sales/2/) )

They chalk it up to the part-timers and the "self-consumers" (I joined not to sell, just for the discount) that dragged down the average.

Fat City, LA
05-06-2013, 08:36 PM
I was checking out some comments on one of the EN facebook pages. Almost every comment is someone trying to "help" people who are struggling, which basically means they are just trying to get people to join their team.

Also, I apologize if it has been discussed before but whoever created the Profitable Sunrise page on fb is now using that page to pimp Empower Network.

Ive put this thread on that page several times, he takes it down. Imbecile lost $5k in PS long term, time to pass on misery.

path2prosperity
05-07-2013, 02:21 AM
One idiot promoter who claims that he is an accountant by day is still promoting this junk on Adlandpro (Scamlandpro.) He has not answered my question when I asked what sort of accountant he is. Could this guy be a turf accountant?

Stephen Hauser Empower Network. (http://www.empowernetwork.com/martinezshopper/)

scratchycat
05-08-2013, 09:22 AM
Relax, Empower members.

You've got serial ponzi pimp Simon Stepsys on board, flashing his earnings

His last HYIP ponzi, Banners Broker has crashed and burned, now he's come to help himself to Empower Network members' money.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/scams%202/simon6_zps70eb80d3.jpg



This was what I tried posting a few days back and could not get it to work. Thanks for the auto-restore!! Who could possibly believe that jerk about anything he is selling?? What a hairdo!!!

scratchycat
05-08-2013, 09:24 AM
I was checking out some comments on one of the EN facebook pages. Almost every comment is someone trying to "help" people who are struggling, which basically means they are just trying to get people to join their team.

Also, I apologize if it has been discussed before but whoever created the Profitable Sunrise page on fb is now using that page to pimp Empower Network.

Last time I checked that is exactly what was going on!

scratchycat
05-08-2013, 09:27 AM
One idiot promoter who claims that he is an accountant by day is still promoting this junk on Adlandpro (Scamlandpro.) He has not answered my question when I asked what sort of accountant he is. Could this guy be a turf accountant?

Stephen Hauser Empower Network. (http://www.empowernetwork.com/martinezshopper/)

“Golf is a game that is played on a five-inch course – the distance between your ears. ” ~ Bobby JonesI’ve heard it said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. If you go and bang your head into the wall or touch a hot stove, are you likely to go and do so one or two more…

Need we say more... :shocked:

path2prosperity
05-08-2013, 11:25 AM
“Golf is a game that is played on a five-inch course – the distance between your ears. ” ~ Bobby JonesI’ve heard it said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. If you go and bang your head into the wall or touch a hot stove, are you likely to go and do so one or two more…

Need we say more... :shocked:

You forgot to mention the fact that this is Stephen Hauser's opening sales spiel for Empower Network "scratchy". It sounds like gibberish to me. Can anybody understand what the guy is trying to sell with this jumble of words?

ribshaw
05-08-2013, 01:27 PM
“Golf is a game that is played on a five-inch course – the distance between your ears. ” ~ Bobby JonesI’ve

In the Empower world of illusion Golf is a game where you shoot 7, yell 4, and record as a hole in one. Its easy when any ole picture of ball in a cup will do to part this crew from their loot.

BoBosworth56
05-08-2013, 02:28 PM
In the Empower world of illusion Golf is a game where you shoot 7, yell 4, and record as a hole in one. Its easy when any ole picture of ball in a cup will do to part this crew from their loot.

Very nice. I can see it now. A picture of a guy in a tank top and flip flips giving a thumbs up. Then he would tell you that by paying $25 a month he will help you have a better score than Tiger Woods by showing you how to blog. Of course you would have to go out and find others golfers to join or you will be called a wussy.

ribshaw
05-08-2013, 04:31 PM
I picked this up over on the PS facebook page. I copied the line of comments, Dominic's last two comments are very interesting. Not sure what to make of the comment on the credit card and possible fraud. But the second one is very clear, anytime people are having problems getting refunds trouble is sure to follow. I sent him a PM for more details and have not heard back, I am in the States and he is in Cyprus so it may not have been delivered yet.

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BoBosworth56
05-08-2013, 04:46 PM
One of the EN policies is that there are NO refunds. Of course, if you have tangible products then a refund shouldn't be an issue. If you check out the BBB site there are at least 18 complaints, the majority of them have to do with refunds.

Obviously a large majority of EN affiliates fail. It's a given that large numbers are going to fail but when this group base their entire marketing pitch on living the large life they lure people in with unrealistic expectations. Of course people are going to ask for refunds when EN's marketing paints that type of portrait but doesn't deliver to 97% of it's members.

ribshaw
05-08-2013, 05:18 PM
I wonder how the refund policy will play in with any eventual allegations of this being a pyramid scheme? As you say they are not selling tangible products like Glister Toothpaste, but if I recall correctly a return policy was part of the Amway settlement with the FTC.

kschang
05-08-2013, 05:19 PM
There's some rumors that refunds are sometimes issued by corporate, but in a very hush-hush manner.

JustTooMuchTime
05-12-2013, 10:57 PM
I picked this up over on the PS facebook page. I copied the line of comments, Dominic's last two comments are very interesting. Not sure what to make of the comment on the credit card and possible fraud. But the second one is very clear, anytime people are having problems getting refunds trouble is sure to follow. I sent him a PM for more details and have not heard back, I am in the States and he is in Cyprus so it may not have been delivered yet.

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According to my Bank here in the U.S., flagging the UK for potential fraud is common apparently. It even happens when I try to BUY from companies in the UK using my debit card. I'm not sure if I'd make much of that.

ribshaw
05-12-2013, 11:12 PM
According to my Bank here in the U.S., flagging the UK for potential fraud is common apparently. It even happens when I try to BUY from companies in the UK using my debit card. I'm not sure if I'd make much of that.

Thanks, I wasn't sure. Whoever has the PS Facebook page is pushing Empower heavy, but deleting just about every other scammer that shows up. Like drug dealers on each others turf.

BoBosworth56
05-13-2013, 02:37 PM
Here is a video made by Ethan Vanderbuilt exposing the EN scam. Check it out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDFDsu0_eWs

kschang
05-13-2013, 03:01 PM
Here is a video made by Ethan Vanderbuilt exposing the EN scam. Check it out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDFDsu0_eWs

Too much talking head, not enough video proof.

He could have shown where camera zoomed in on Empowered income disclosure, and do some math on screen

He could have shown some animation where it shows the "pass up" plan on Empowered, then animate what happens to the sales money and prove 100% is bull****

LOTS of missed opportunities here.

BoBosworth56
05-14-2013, 04:47 PM
Too much talking head, not enough video proof.

He could have shown where camera zoomed in on Empowered income disclosure, and do some math on screen

He could have shown some animation where it shows the "pass up" plan on Empowered, then animate what happens to the sales money and prove 100% is bull****

LOTS of missed opportunities here.

He definitely could have dug deeper but at least he made a video exposing them. If it saves one person from joining that awful scam then the video served a purpose.

kschang
05-14-2013, 05:51 PM
He definitely could have dug deeper but at least he made a video exposing them. If it saves one person from joining that awful scam then the video served a purpose.

Drama rule: SHOW, not tell. He told, but not shown. he *could* be that much more effective.

There's a rebuttal "how the moon landing could NOT have been faked" over in the science topic. THAT is a good explanation video.

BoBosworth56
05-14-2013, 05:53 PM
Drama rule: SHOW, not tell. He told, but not shown. he *could* be that much more effective.

There's a rebuttal "how the moon landing could NOT have been faked" over in the science topic. THAT is a good explanation video.

Someone just commented on his video and said that they were looking into EN and glad that they saw his video before they jumped in. Like I said, if it saves one person from joining the scam then it's worth it.

ribshaw
05-14-2013, 07:53 PM
Here is a video made by Ethan Vanderbuilt exposing the EN scam. Check it out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDFDsu0_eWs

That dude looks like Butterbean finally cut the carbs or had lap band. It is generating some good comments pro and con which is about all you can ask for these days. Sadly I think a lot of the pro folks will never come to a site like this and think through a decision. If I remember the folks from Zeek are pushing it over on Facebook.

BoBosworth56
05-19-2013, 02:19 AM
Please take the time to report Empower Network to the FTC.

https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/

path2prosperity
05-19-2013, 03:40 AM
This has been around for so long that it is hard to remember when I first became aware of it. Stephen Hauser continues to push this on Adlandpro and Apsense. How long has this shill been pushing this junk?

Google results for Stephen Hauser Empower Network. (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=empower+network+stephen+hauser&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a)

BoBosworth56
05-19-2013, 04:30 PM
This has been around for so long that it is hard to remember when I first became aware of it. Stephen Hauser continues to push this on Adlandpro and Apsense. How long has this shill been pushing this junk?

Google results for Stephen Hauser Empower Network. (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=empower+network+stephen+hauser&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a)

I think it launched sometime in 2011.

BoBosworth56
05-30-2013, 07:29 AM
From the Facebook files...

Robert Graham
Dear David Wood & Dave Sharpe,--------I am 1/2 in, I will join the Inner Circle next Aged pension check I get I am 145 kg drunken heap of flesh $100,0000 in debt, but I will make something of the rest of my life
Like · · 10 hours ago

Chris Knight likes this.
Chris Knight Robert, you rock! That will position you mentally and financially for the next level. Deciding is the first step and taking action is the next. Change is not easy, but you are more powerful than you know. We all have ups and downs, the thing is to keep going and reach out to others when you struggle. I believe in you.
Like · Reply · 9 hours ago


DOH!

ribshaw
05-30-2013, 08:26 AM
From the Facebook files...

Robert Graham
Dear David Wood & Dave Sharpe,--------I am 1/2 in, I will join the Inner Circle next Aged pension check I get I am 145 kg drunken heap of flesh $100,0000 in debt, but I will make something of the rest of my life
Like · · 10 hours ago

Chris Knight likes this.
Chris Knight Robert, you rock! That will position you mentally and financially for the next level. Deciding is the first step and taking action is the next. Change is not easy, but you are more powerful than you know. We all have ups and downs, the thing is to keep going and reach out to others when you struggle. I believe in you.
Like · Reply · 9 hours ago


DOH!

Well you don't usually get to be a drunken heap of flesh $100,000 in debt by making great choices. If I were to look in my crystal ball, six months from now I see drunken heap of flesh and $110,000 in debt. Here is one of the big problems with MLM in my mind, they take anyone with money in their checkbook. Puffing him up with hyperbole to get his money is disgusting. Any human with an ounce of sense or compassion would tell Robert to get all the help it takes to get and stay sober, pay down the debt, and then lets talk.

BoBosworth56
06-05-2013, 03:10 PM
Soo I was looking at some statistics on Alexa and it looks like the majority of people searching the Empower Network scam are people from the 55-65 age group. I guess that is pretty common with most online scams.

Also, on a positive note it seems as if their rankings have been falling the past few weeks :)

JustTooMuchTime
06-13-2013, 03:37 AM
I just received a new email telling me I might be receiving the most important message of my life! MY LIFE!!!!

http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg536/Paul_Schlegel/MLM%20Pyramids%20And%20Ponzis/TheMostImportantMessageOfYourLife_zpsa04aafa4.png (http://s1242.photobucket.com/user/Paul_Schlegel/media/MLM%20Pyramids%20And%20Ponzis/TheMostImportantMessageOfYourLife_zpsa04aafa4.png. html)

OK. Well, the part about it being the most vital message they've ever sent could be correct, because it's pretty hard to figure out which message they've sent has been the stupidest, so approximately all of them are competing for the "most vital message" ranking.

Although this could be my last "likelihood" I'll ever get a message like this:


"This could be your last likelihood you will
EVER get like this and i do not wish you
to ignore the prospect of a lifetime..."

Although, considering the message came from the Megan's Income Challenge (http://www.realscam.com/blogs/justtoomuchtime/199-megans-income-challenge-scam-legit.html) eMail list, I'm pretty sure I'll have some sort of likelihood to get a message as "vital" as this one again!

BoBosworth56
06-15-2013, 11:46 PM
I just received a new email telling me I might be receiving the most important message of my life! MY LIFE!!!!

http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg536/Paul_Schlegel/MLM%20Pyramids%20And%20Ponzis/TheMostImportantMessageOfYourLife_zpsa04aafa4.png (http://s1242.photobucket.com/user/Paul_Schlegel/media/MLM%20Pyramids%20And%20Ponzis/TheMostImportantMessageOfYourLife_zpsa04aafa4.png. html)

OK. Well, the part about it being the most vital message they've ever sent could be correct, because it's pretty hard to figure out which message they've sent has been the stupidest, so approximately all of them are competing for the "most vital message" ranking.

Although this could be my last "likelihood" I'll ever get a message like this:



Although, considering the message came from the Megan's Income Challenge (http://www.realscam.com/blogs/justtoomuchtime/199-megans-income-challenge-scam-legit.html) eMail list, I'm pretty sure I'll have some sort of likelihood to get a message as "vital" as this one again!

Please save that message. Report Megan and Empower Network to the FTC and your state's attorney general.

BoBosworth56
06-15-2013, 11:47 PM
Also, Empower Network has fallen 50-60 spots in the Alexa rankings in the past month. Maybe the majority of people are seeing the light.

littleroundman
06-16-2013, 12:38 AM
Why is it that when one of these spammers promises you: "and it will be my LAST time I will tell you this" it never is the LAST time ??

BoBosworth56
06-16-2013, 01:11 AM
Why is it that when one of these spammers promises you: "and it will be my LAST time I will tell you this" it never is the LAST time ??

Lol so true. I also like how they always claim that you think that "everything is a scam."

kschang
06-16-2013, 03:45 AM
It's just a standard template, and it's only about *this* opportunity. If they have a new one, they'll spam you again.

BoBosworth56
06-21-2013, 07:21 AM
Pinellas County Sheriff's Office Charge Report (http://pcsoweb.com/InmateBooking/SubjectResults.aspx?id=1224783)

BoBosworth56
06-21-2013, 07:57 AM
David E Sharpe Mugshot - Pinellas County, FL (http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Florida/Pinellas-County-FL/David-E-Sharpe.3290480/details/)

BoBosworth56
06-26-2013, 10:26 PM
You have to love (not really) the name of this Empower Network page...

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Empower-Network-Easy-Money/133357850179057?fref=ts

So easy, over 100,000 people have made little to no money. The majority of them have lost money.

BoBosworth56
06-30-2013, 07:17 PM
Empower Network scammer of the day: Christopher Rocchetti.

He is on youtube defending the scam known as EN. When I brought up to him that over 100,000 lost money in EN he just got off the subject. People beware, do not join Empower Network and do not trust Christopher Rocchetti. He is just trying to get you to join a scam. Remember, a fast food worker who makes minimum wage and only works 30 hours per week makes more than 98% of EN members.

scratchycat
07-01-2013, 09:40 AM
Here is another happy promoter of Empower Network. Wonder how much he has made??? ....spent......

https://www.facebook.com/findcash?fref=ts

path2prosperity
07-01-2013, 04:22 PM
Here is another happy promoter of Empower Network. Wonder how much he has made??? ....spent......

https://www.facebook.com/findcash?fref=ts

Steve Hauser has been promoting Empower Network for ages "scratchy. " I am pretty certain that he claims it is his primary source of online income.

Here is the latest sales spiel from Stephen

Type http://www then .adlandpro.com/ad/1390254/Empower-Us-Inspires-U-to-Reach-Your-Full-Potential.aspx?index=2&total=3&

QUOTE

"What would you do if you could turn a $10 investment into $100's or $1000's? Travel the world? Go to Hawaii or Paris? Go to the beach? Save for retirement? Buy a new boat or house or car? Buy gold or silver? To do that you need some dough folks, so let's get this thing done. Dozens of people are already following this great marketing plan. They do all the work. All you do is invest $25 and the rest is easy!!!

What's inspires you? Your spouse, your kids, your boss, your "me" time, your vacation time, your relationship with God? Do you like blogging, and getting paid for it? Then this is the place for you! Visit the website link below for more details! You get the The Empower Network Core Blogging System to help generate traffic & leads, High Converting Lead Capture Pages, an 8-Part Fast Start Video Training Series, Website Hosting, Design, Theme and Plugins, and much more! Visit zillionaireDOTwebsDOTcom for all of the details! "

scratchycat
07-11-2013, 08:59 AM
One of our members was over in this thread complaining about us bashing him. As his number 1 program is Empower Network, I thought it should be mentioned here.

http://www.realscam.com/f9/scamlandpro-your-one-stop-site-all-scams-1276/index54.html#post57971



So yes, Empower Network is absolutely my # 1 program of choice. Went ahead and joined Xplocial as well which is probably my # 2 but the verdict is still out as I'm so new to this opportunity. GDI would be my # 3 but don't really use it for the income opportunity but rather the website design with up to 300 subpages as well as the Wordpress blogging but Empower has the best of it all.

Using GDI, Empower & Xplocial (http://www.martinezshopper.ws/martinezshopper)

BoBosworth56
07-15-2013, 07:45 AM
Here is an interesting read on Empower Network. It seems as if David Wood is doing a little damage control.

Empower Network: 37% sales are retail, not revenue | BehindMLM (http://behindmlm.com/companies/empower-network/empower-network-37-sales-are-retail-not-revenue/#more-11864)

scratchycat
07-15-2013, 08:50 AM
I liked that last paragraph from the BehindMLM (http://behindmlm.com/companies/empower-network/empower-network-37-sales-are-retail-not-revenue/#more-11864):


If and only if Empower Network’s generated revenue is being primarily (majority) generated via retail customer sales is the company not simply an affiliate-funded recruitment scheme. No ifs or buts, that’s the bottom line.

We’ll keep you updated if Wood makes any follow-up announcements. Till then, please don’t waste mine or anyone else’s time running around the internet proclaiming that 37% of Empower Network’s revenue is retail, when it clearly isn’t.

BoBosworth56
07-26-2013, 04:15 PM
Sorry if this has already been posted but this helps expose one of the biggest pimps in the EN scam

KELOLAND.com | News, Weather and Sports Video Archive (http://www.keloland.com/videoarchive/index.cfm?VideoFile=082409insurance)

BoBosworth56
07-28-2013, 12:34 PM
As info, the above video is of EN pimp and notorious scammer, Vick Strizheus.

JRM9
07-30-2013, 02:52 AM
Has anybody any idea when this started? I have seen it around for ages. I am sure that it predates Facebook.

Wasn't there a page of advertising it with Yuie and Adlandpro

October 31, 2011

midwestcore
07-31-2013, 08:34 AM
i signed up for empower and advertised on safe list, article,traffic sites,classified sites, the ever popular scam "submission works" thats is supposed to magically pull in empower signups and every place i could think of for 2 months putting in 14 hour days on the computer and i did not get 1 single sign up. it takes time to build any good business. that's what my sponsor kept saying. but if i got 1 signup every 8 to 10 months i would be dead before the business got built.
so "that's all i have to say about thay it"

BoBosworth56
08-01-2013, 07:12 AM
i signed up for empower and advertised on safe list, article,traffic sites,classified sites, the ever popular scam "submission works" thats is supposed to magically pull in empower signups and every place i could think of for 2 months putting in 14 hour days on the computer and i did not get 1 single sign up. it takes time to build any good business. that's what my sponsor kept saying. but if i got 1 signup every 8 to 10 months i would be dead before the business got built.
so "that's all i have to say about thay it"

Sorry to hear that but thank you for sharing your experience. It's funny because most of the EN zombies will say that the reason people fail in EN is because they didn't work hard enough, which is complete and utter BS! People are losing money left and right in EN and the David's are living it up.

If you haven't already, please file a complaint against EN with the FTC and your state's attorney general.

radovann
08-01-2013, 02:36 PM
A very good review of this scam :

An HONEST Empower Network Review - David Wood and David Sharpe | Cutting the BS Out of Product Reviews (http://nomorebsreviews.com/negative-reviews/empower-network-review-david-wood-david-sharpe/)

BoBosworth56
08-09-2013, 09:57 PM
Empower Network is climbing up the Alexa rankings since their last live event, luring more people into their pyramid scam. If you have lost money in this program then please report Empower Network to the Federal Trade Commission and your states attorney general so they will be investigated.

BoBosworth56
08-12-2013, 11:40 PM
I posted this comment on David Wood's Facebook status: 97% of ACTIVE EN make less in a year than part time McDonald's employees. This is info that I am passing onto the FTC and various state attorney generals as we speak. Keep telling everyone how much fun you are having on the dime of the 97% who are making very little money or losing money in EN. It is awesome evidence to the authorities.

Instead of manning up he was a wussy and blocked me on facebook. Just another example of how David Wood is a wussy.

littleroundman
08-12-2013, 11:58 PM
There are multiple streams to any discussion about Empower Network or any similar scheme.

1) Pyramid / endless chain recruiting schemes are illegal

2) They are illegal because they don't work for the great majority of participants

3) They are illegal because they are mathematically guaranteed to fail and do so sooner rather than later

4) It simply doesn't matter what individuals "may" do. What matters is what individuals "can" do

IF the potential exists for members to make the majority of any income based on recruiting alone, then the business is both illegal and guaranteed to fail.

The fact the management of the business refuse to prevent such an imbalance between sales and recruiting is yet another reason why smart MLMers should run away as fast as possible and not look back.

People who like to gamble on get-rich-quick schemes, on the other hand, are likely to flock to "opportunities" such as Empower Network in droves.

BoBosworth56
08-13-2013, 12:07 AM
There are multiple streams to any discussion about Empower Network or any similar scheme.

1) Pyramid / endless chain recruiting schemes are illegal

2) They are illegal because they don't work for the great majority of participants

3) They are illegal because they are mathematically guaranteed to fail and do so sooner rather than later

4) It simply doesn't matter what individuals "may" do. What matters is what individuals "can" do

IF the potential exists for members to make the majority of any income based on recruiting alone, then the business is both illegal and guaranteed to fail.

The fact the management of the business refuse to prevent such an imbalance between sales and recruiting is yet another reason why smart MLMers should run away as fast as possible and not look back.

People who like to gamble on get-rich-quick schemes, on the other hand, are likely to flock to "opportunities" such as Empower Network in droves.

Agreed 100%. It seems that En has made it a priority to try and teach their members "compliance." They know good and damn well that their business is shady and that the high majority of people are failing. It is sickening as they have so many people brainwashed. There is one youtube member by the name of "lovesmartpeople." I am guessing that she signed up under Vick Strizheus and then recognized that he was redirecting people who would sign up under to his site. She made some videos calling him out on his scamming ways yet she still thinks EN is the greatest thing ever. She doesn't realize that Vick is huge buddies with the smelly hippes known as Wood, Sharpe and Verrengia.

JustTooMuchTime
08-15-2013, 05:42 PM
Salty Droid is on it now:

» Empower Network :: Revenge of the Wussies (http://saltydroid.info/empower-network-revenge-of-the-wussies/)

BoBosworth56
08-16-2013, 05:11 PM
Thanks for posting. Hilarious and truthful read. There are tons of people joining the Empower Network right now thinking that they are going to get rich. It is time that David Woods and David Sharpe go to prison for their scamming ways.

JustTooMuchTime
08-19-2013, 02:12 PM
This guy got kicked out of Empower Network for mentioning the BBB:
An HONEST Empower Network Review - David Wood and David Sharpe | Cutting the BS Out of Product Reviews (http://nomorebsreviews.com/negative-reviews/empower-network-review-david-wood-david-sharpe/)

madhavi1606
08-20-2013, 03:29 AM
Empower Network is one of the biggest opportunities available today to make real money online. This is unlike any pyramid scheme which people generally associate with these kind of programs. There are real products and opportunity to make money is huge. So go ahead and join empower network. You can join today and start earning real online income

BoBosworth56
08-20-2013, 07:37 PM
Empower Network is one of the biggest opportunities available today to make real money online. This is unlike any pyramid scheme which people generally associate with these kind of programs. There are real products and opportunity to make money is huge. So go ahead and join empower network. You can join today and start earning real online income

Empower Network is a HUGE pyramid scheme. They don't have any real products. End of story.

BoBosworth56
08-25-2013, 03:13 PM
If you are considering joining the Empower Network then I ask you to do one thing. Take a look at David Wood's, David Sharpe's, and Justin Verrengia's facebook post. The vast majority of them is either pictures or statues basically bragging about what they have. Why are they doing this? Here is why, they want YOU to think that you can achieve the same luxuries by joining EN. Well here is some news for you, it's not going to happen.

What they are doing is a huge scam tactic used by thousands of other scammers over the years. It is truly sickening to know that they are doing this while thousands of people are going broke to FUND their lavish lifestyle. Please do not spend your money to make those dirty people more wealthy then they already are.

Fendaril
08-25-2013, 07:34 PM
If you are considering joining the Empower Network then I ask you to do one thing. Take a look at David Wood's, David Sharpe's, and Justin Verrengia's facebook post. The vast majority of them is either pictures or statues basically bragging about what they have. Why are they doing this? Here is why, they want YOU to think that you can achieve the same luxuries by joining EN. Well here is some news for you, it's not going to happen.

What they are doing is a huge scam tactic used by thousands of other scammers over the years. It is truly sickening to know that they are doing this while thousands of people are going broke to FUND their lavish lifestyle. Please do not spend your money to make those dirty people more wealthy then they already are.

I thought the costa rica gig was a shim. Isn't their office in some average house in Florida?

This is one of his facebook statuses which shows how people are making no money and still paying $125 a month....



I just worked out our retention numbers for Empower Network since launch 11 months ago:

41% of everyone who has bought the blog still is paying $25 per month.

43% of everyone who has bought the Inner Circle is still paying $100 per month.

BoBosworth56
08-25-2013, 07:44 PM
I thought the costa rica gig was a shim. Isn't their office in some average house in Florida?

This is one of his facebook statuses which shows how people are making no money and still paying $125 a month....

The "business" is registered in Florida but I think most of the top douche bags reside in Costa Rica. The FB status you posted is a prime example of how most of their members are in zombie mode. You and I can see that post and realize that the majority of people are losing money but the EN zombies most likely liked that status and shared it. I see people sharing their statuses and thinking of how gullible they are. If anyone on my friends list EVER shared a post by those guys then I would hurt their feelings.

Fendaril
08-25-2013, 08:02 PM
If you take that $125 and spent it on paid advertising with crappy affiliate lead capture websites than you can make much more than you would in Empower Network.

But everyone wants to be rich and successful just like Dave Wood, but nobody can make as much money as dave because the more money you make for yourself the richer he gets.

But its ok, you just have to work extra, extra hard and not be a wussy, lol.

BoBosworth56
08-25-2013, 08:26 PM
If you take that $125 and spent it on paid advertising with crappy affiliate lead capture websites than you can make much more than you would in Empower Network.

But everyone wants to be rich and successful just like Dave Wood, but nobody can make as much money as dave because the more money you make for yourself the richer he gets.

But its ok, you just have to work extra, extra hard and not be a wussy, lol.

Yeahhhh, if you don't spend extra money then you are a wussy. (Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight). How come they don't tell you that BEFORE you join? David Wood, David Sharpe and Justin Verrengia are ALL wussies. I called them out on facebook and what did they do? They deleted my comment and blocked me. That is the definition of wussy!

Fendaril
08-25-2013, 08:49 PM
Yeahhhh, if you don't spend extra money then you are a wussy. (Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight). How come they don't tell you that BEFORE you join? David Wood, David Sharpe and Justin Verrengia are ALL wussies. I called them out on facebook and what did they do? They deleted my comment and blocked me. That is the definition of wussy!

No, you are a wussy if you do not spend unreasonable amounts of time trying to sell their products. But, it just so happens you have to spend extra money in order to profit from that sale, otherwise it just jumps up the powerline to the Daves.

If you can't do that, you just have to hope two other people buy and keep the product and you get yours for free, with the caveat that they must sustain the membership. So if you don't buy it, you can just give the two Daves two residual income streams instead of one.

BoBosworth56
08-25-2013, 10:22 PM
No, you are a wussy if you do not spend unreasonable amounts of time trying to sell their products. But, it just so happens you have to spend extra money in order to profit from that sale, otherwise it just jumps up the powerline to the Daves.

If you can't do that, you just have to hope two other people buy and keep the product and you get yours for free, with the caveat that they must sustain the membership. So if you don't buy it, you can just give the two Daves two residual income streams instead of one.

More and more people will see that they were duped by those at Empower Network and report them to the FTC. It is a matter of time before they are shut down.

Fendaril
08-26-2013, 09:52 AM
We can always start up a petition, but we just have to find a way to circumvent the fanatic EN supporters.

BoBosworth56
08-31-2013, 09:13 PM
We can always start up a petition, but we just have to find a way to circumvent the fanatic EN supporters.

If you haven't already please be sure to report them to the FTC. I know that several people have and it is a matter of time before they are shut down. Just be patient and continue to expose them in the meantime.

littleroundman
08-31-2013, 09:34 PM
If you haven't already please be sure to report them to the FTC. I know that several people have and it is a matter of time before they are shut down. Just be patient and continue to expose them in the meantime.

IM(very)HO, it's more likely to die a natural death than be closed down by regulatory action.

Pyramid / endless chain recruiting schemes are illegal for a reason.

Not only will the great majority of participants make no profit, most will actually LOSE money.

In the grand scheme of things, Empower is relatively small when compared to the next big thing get rich quick schemes and is likely to self extinguish before it does too much damage.

BoBosworth56
09-01-2013, 11:15 PM
Littleroundman,

I am curious to your statement about En being relatively small compared to other scams. Which ones are bigger at the moment? I have been on EN's case because they seem to be luring in several thousands of people based on their Alexa ranking.

BoBosworth56
09-01-2013, 11:40 PM
This is for the people on FB who continuously "share" everything David Wood and David Sharpe post on there. It seems as if you need some serious mental help. It is almost like you are living vicariously through these two scammers. WAKE UP! They are ripping you off.

littleroundman
09-01-2013, 11:44 PM
Littleroundman,

I am curious to your statement about En being relatively small compared to other scams. Which ones are bigger at the moment? I have been on EN's case because they seem to be luring in several thousands of people based on their Alexa ranking.

The answer is in your question, Bo

"At the moment" Empower Network may be one of the largest, or, at least "appear" to be one of the largest and it "seems" to be luring in several thousand of new members

* Alexa rankings are notoriously inaccurate and easily manipulated

* Any information coming out of Empower itself or from any of it's pimp / promoters should be ignored. Part and parcel of any good get-rich-quick scheme is fudging the numbers to make it seem more attractive. Potential new victims signups believe what they hear at their own peril.

* Take out the regular HYIP ponzi players and confirmed get-rich-quickers and there doesn't seem to be a large amount of "new blood" so to speak becoming involved in Empower.

BoBosworth56
09-02-2013, 12:30 AM
Ok thanks. I know that they are quick to promote their Alexa ranking when it is high (after a convention a big city) but fail to say anything about it when it falls drastically.

Fendaril
09-02-2013, 07:37 AM
A scheme that allows the upline to live in a mansion in costa rica and put in 1 to 2 hours of work is not small imho.

Fat City, LA
09-02-2013, 12:50 PM
Its a ponzi and "blogs" are the product?

Blogging 24/7 seems lucrative enough w/hard effort. How does Empower enhance the blogging. Is anything real?

Fendaril
09-02-2013, 01:12 PM
Its a ponzi and "blogs" are the product?

Blogging 24/7 seems lucrative enough w/hard effort. How does Empower enhance the blogging. Is anything real?

High alexa ranking and Google love

and the promise of riches beyond your wildest imagination

BoBosworth56
10-08-2013, 01:32 PM
The BBB has issued an alert on the Empower Network. They have dropped their rating from a C- to a D.

They issued this message with the alert:

BBB files indicate that this business has a pattern of complaints concerning misrepresentation in selling practices.


On September 26, 2013, BBB contacted Empower Network, LLC, requesting information as to why the business believes the customers are filing the complaints, and what actions the business has taken to help eliminate the causes of complaints. As of this date the business has not replied to this request.

fromthehood
10-08-2013, 07:00 PM
* Alexa rankings are notoriously inaccurate and easily manipulated



True that Alexa ranking can be manipulated, but their manipulation is on another level. I estimate from my Alexa browsing that they are in top 500 in 70% of the countries. I never saw anything on this scale. Even Zeek and ASD were relatively local in Alexa ratings. If their base around 50K as reported, they are troughing a lot of money on website ratings manipulations.

fromthehood
10-08-2013, 07:04 PM
The BBB has issued an alert on the Empower Network. They have dropped their rating from a C- to a D.



Regrettably BBB has its own image problems with grade fixing extortions. Its very easy for scammers to say now that BBB gave them bad ratings because they did not want to pay dues.

JustTooMuchTime
10-08-2013, 08:30 PM
Regrettably BBB has its own image problems with grade fixing extortions. Its very easy for scammers to say now that BBB gave them bad ratings because they did not want to pay dues.

The BBB stinks at grading. But they do an amazing job of collecting and categorizing complaints.
No way for the BBB to get around that one. Scammers can try to claim that the complaints are a small
portion of their customers, but once you get enough complaints of a same type, there's no way to get around
that a pattern of complaints is a pattern of complaints.

BoBosworth56
01-05-2014, 08:19 PM
Vick aka Vitaliya Strizheus, a known con and scam artist is now butthurt that Ethan Vanderbuilt exposed him publicly.

Here is what he wrote on his facebook....

How poor get poorer by 'deciding' to be stupid sometimes:

So once there was this guy who desperately tried to make money on the internet but he kept failing over and over and over again...

Then he joined this one deal and decided to build his business by simply writing crap and trashing other successful marketers and gurus...

Instead of doing a smart thing and learn from somebody who is succeeding, he got bitter and just started to bash everybody publicly. He bashed the gurus, professional marketers, network marketing companies, systems, EVERYTHING. Everything to him was a scam.

So he was pretending to be this "nice guy" and called himself a "scam buster" trying to "save people" from all those "gurus". But as he bashed the gurus and companies, he was directing people to check out "HIS" little deal.

Anyway, so he was doing that for while.... until things got a bit too far...

He started to bash one very successful marketer and took it too far by saying things that were not actually true. Just some things that he "heard". He was never a customer. Just propagated his opinions.

Then one day this "scam buster" got a letter telling him to show up for court.

Turns out he was being sued for slander, defamation, business loss, reputation damages, and a whole slew of other things that he caused.

To make a long story short, the judge orders him to pay $350,000 in business/reputation damages and business loss that he caused for this one successful marketer.

But HOW?!

This "scam buster" is flat broke.

He's not making any money.

He never actually helped anybody succeed.

All he was doing was bashing and trashing people and other companies.

Well, he had a house and some personal property...

And he basically became a "slave" until he paid the $350K.

Needed to work 3 jobs just to be able to pay that.

His life turned into a living hell.

Broke just got a lot broker... simply by 'deciding' to do dumb things.

Point of the story?

Don't be like this dude.

I see a lot of people doing this kind of crap without realizing that one day they can potentially lose EVERYTHING they have if some company or "guru" decides to go after them for defamation and income/business loss due to their "badmouthing".

If somebody is succeeding in a particular company, and the company is legit - don't EVER call it a scam.

Don't ever blame others for your lack of success or failures.

Take responsibility.

Be smart.

(hopefully this post will save somebody from getting into trouble.

Love ya'll!

Let me know if you're ready to rock 2014!


P.S. Feel free to share this. Maybe you can literally help somebody save their life.







He is barking up the wrong tree as the lawyers who prosecuted him the first time thought he should have received a harsher punishment.

littleroundman
01-05-2014, 08:36 PM
No references ??

No court documents ??

No mentions in the media ??

Ethan Vanderbuilts' posts and videos are still online ???

A perfect example of get-rich-quick-schemers using inference to confuse their intended victims

IOW, less credibility than a Grimm Brothers fairytale


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=qYunLtGorIU

ribshaw
01-06-2014, 03:55 PM
Vick aka Vitaliya Strizheus, a known con and scam artist is now butthurt that Ethan Vanderbuilt exposed him publicly.

Then one day this "scam buster" got a letter telling him to show up for court. Turns out he was being sued for slander, defamation, business loss, reputation damages, and a whole slew of other things that he caused. To make a long story short, the judge orders him to pay $350,000 in business/reputation damages and business loss that he caused for this one successful marketer.
But HOW?! This "scam buster" is flat broke. He's not making any money. He never actually helped anybody succeed. All he was doing was bashing and trashing people and other companies.
Well, he had a house and some personal property... And he basically became a "slave" until he paid the $350K. Needed to work 3 jobs just to be able to pay that..

Perhaps this tale happened in one of Robert Kiyosaki's books or in MLM fantasy land somewhere. Maybe Vick's could post the actual judgement which would be a matter of public record.

Other than that, like most of the crap Vick and his ilk push, the reader is asked to suspend disbelief. I know in the MLM community everyone thinks suing people is like the 1-800-SUEHISASS billboards meets My Cousin Vinny. But for an attorney to handle a case like this on contingency, they would want to know that if they won, they could collect. Uh defendant working three jobs, good luck with that.

More realistic scenario two. The attorney tells the client, this guy is broke, we can still sue him, but you need to give me a retainer and I will draw $200 an hour against it. Suspending disbelief again, one has to think there is someone dumb enough that they would shell out $100,000 in legal fees to NOT collect $350,000. (Even calling it $50,000, maybe they have Legal Shield (!))

Then again anyone who would risk his entire families well being over $30,000 probably is not only a quality person, but has great mind for numbers.


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Awesome site that SBM had linked somewhere else, better check it out before this guy is working 3 jobs too.

Vick Strizheus from Big Idea Mastermind is a Veteran Swindler (http://www.glancingweb.com/2187/pig-idea-mastermind)

Vitaliy Strizheus was an insurance salesman that really loved to fill out life insurance applications so darn much … that he had begun faking them. In return for his unyielding (and quite illegal) affections towards the made-up clientele, Vitaliy had been awarded hefty commissions from the unaware company for whom he had worked.

After he pilfered around $30,000, Vitaliy finally got caught … because shockingly, fake folks can’t make real recurring payments for an extended period of time. Only due to the generosity of the judge who took into consideration Vitaliy’s family, in 2009 he was he was given a 90 day weekends only sentence that even would have made Li Lo jealous.



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Fat City, LA
01-06-2014, 05:34 PM
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path2prosperity
01-06-2014, 06:08 PM
Lo lifes are buying comments.

Low life promoters abound too!

Carl Haavarldsen pimping the Empower scam. (http://www.carlhaavaldsen.com/)

BoBosworth56
01-06-2014, 09:06 PM
Lo lifes are buying comments. This one pays .10.
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If you don’t know what to comment, then you can go to the following page “How to sell without ‘selling’ and earn $10k/month” and look for example comments and ideas.

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Fat City, LA
01-06-2014, 09:34 PM
Wow, that is all I can say.
One time JustBeenPaid messed up on its microjob order. They had @1000 English as 2nd languauge microworkers post the exact thing at the same time on their page. It was hilarious.

littleroundman
01-06-2014, 09:49 PM
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01-06-2014, 10:04 PM
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01-06-2014, 10:05 PM
...
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hehe, BS Marketing, every one needs one of those.

They probably also have BS degree in Marketing

ribshaw
01-07-2014, 10:19 AM
Lo lifes are buying comments. This one pays .10.
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Note:
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Can someone explain the buying comments concept, I am guessing it is to make things look more active in search engines and make opportunity seem more legitimate? And as a strategy, does it have diminishing returns, hence more losses for the affiliate? As in if everyone buys likes, where does it end?

BoBosworth56
01-11-2014, 02:59 AM
Oh, look at me. I am Vick and I took out 50,000 dollars on a brand new "traffic source."

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=582097881881341&set=a.392589520832179.91741.100002434044484&type=1&theater

Maybe we all should report this photo and comments by Vick Strizheus to the people who are monitoring his financial income.

littleroundman
01-18-2014, 06:04 AM
My, my, how things change in the get-rich-quick biz.

I wonder where they are today.

http://imageshack.com/a/img203/288/3r2b.jpg

Fendaril
01-20-2014, 12:22 AM
I searched for empower network because of its success and longevity and me doubting that I was correct in staying away and quitting earlier. I was going to re-join, but it seems like google unleashed the firing squad on it, Dave's wife left him, and all that is left is the "blog beast" which I can only find some skimpy review videos by random people littered with affiliate links.

Seriously, I try it the long hard right way all the time and get caught up in these things because of the flashy checks and overnight riches.

I doing something terribly wrong, reading all the wrong material maybe. Im really scared that if I blog everyday and just do things the honest hard way I will end up with a $500 a month blog after 3 years of work and stuck and depressed and thinking im a failure.

/End pity train.

2nd edit:

I checked out their new website which seems to be offering all the products separately. Im guessing this BBB thing happened so fast and they are making so many changes that the news cant keep up?

Fendaril
01-20-2014, 06:03 AM
If anyone wants to donate to vick, you can do so.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPKsuchcDo4&feature=player_embedded

http://ashcampbell.com/vick-strizheuz-big-idea-mastermind-scam/

http://ashcampbell.com/big-idea-mastermind-scam-vick-strizheus-2nd-article/

ribshaw
01-20-2014, 11:50 AM
Seriously, I try it the long hard right way all the time and get caught up in these things because of the flashy checks and overnight riches.

Love get rich quick stuff, always have. Would rather watch an infomercial on how to flip real estate than almost anything, cept maybe RuPauls Drag Race. Most weekends I pop some VHS or DVD in the tele and listen to a guru on this or that until I fall back asleep. Its fun, its motivating. Who doesn't want to work 15 minutes a month?



I doing something terribly wrong, reading all the wrong material maybe. Im really scared that if I blog everyday and just do things the honest hard way I will end up with a $500 a month blog after 3 years of work and stuck and depressed and thinking im a failure.

If you are blogging about things you enjoy who cares? $6,000 a year from a blog is pretty good cash, and should leave plenty of time to fill with other endeavors.


Good article.. Easier in my opinion to "make it big" if you have some sort of industry experience, passion or flair, but still a pretty crowded arena.

Brian Krebs, the Cybersecurity Blogger Hackers Love to Hate - Businessweek (http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-01-16/brian-krebs-the-cybersecurity-blogger-hackers-love-to-hate)

CitizenKhan
01-20-2014, 02:58 PM
I am sure Jamie Waters can show us how to watch this video 2 or even 10 times quicker. Thanks Jamie, Watching BBC iPlayer and Sky+ have never been the same after your trick!

Do you get time to watch these videos after claiming your JSA, Jamie? Should you not be actively looking for work rather than a grown-up, stay at home child?

Fendaril
01-21-2014, 12:31 PM
How come when one major original mlm program closes down 200 duplicates come to take its place trying to take the top?

laidback
01-21-2014, 01:36 PM
How come when one major original mlm program closes down 200 duplicates come to take its place trying to take the top? Nature of the Beast...!

path2prosperity
01-21-2014, 01:58 PM
My, my, how things change in the get-rich-quick biz.

I wonder where they are today.

http://imageshack.com/a/img203/288/3r2b.jpg

Interesting comment.

Quote

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Fendaril
01-21-2014, 04:59 PM
I still see the post. Did something change?

ribshaw
01-22-2014, 09:13 AM
If anyone wants to donate to vick, you can do so.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPKsuchcDo4&feature=player_embedded



WOS, Vic Snakeinthegrass is a straight up conman, or maybe this was just a technical glitch. :shocked: A MUST SEE for AFFILIATES, start at 3:00 if you are short on time.

littleroundman
01-22-2014, 09:16 AM
I still see the post. Did something change?

I'm sorry, but I don't follow.

Which post ??

BoBosworth56
01-22-2014, 03:15 PM
WOS, Vic Snakeinthegrass is a straight up conman, or maybe this was just a technical glitch. :shocked: A MUST SEE for AFFILIATES, start at 3:00 if you are short on time.

From what I heard he has done the same thing with all of his other schemes. I also read where others submitted tickets to Empower Network help desk and nothing was resolved. No refunds. Just Vick aka Vitaliya taking others downlines and keeping the money.

Fendaril
01-22-2014, 06:36 PM
Usually internet marketers aren't this obvious.

Vick set up a scam with the purpose of closing down and keeping the funds. That is just plain robbery.

EagleOne
01-22-2014, 07:36 PM
I don't know who did it first, but this is the same thing that Paul Darby does.

path2prosperity
01-23-2014, 06:24 PM
Does anybody know why an Empower Network web site should be claiming that Nerdbux is renting out bots to its members?

QUOTE

There is no doubt that Nerdbux is renting out bots to their members. (http://roger.bjornerud.biz/blog/nerdbux-is-renting-out-bots-to-their-members)

Why would this news be a business opportunity?

Latest from Kathleen VanBeekom's BizOpps forum.

Type http:// then add community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2689987/Why-did-a-former-Nerd-promoter-change-his-mind.aspx?flag=2

Nourjan
01-23-2014, 08:01 PM
Using and renting/selling bots is considered to be majorly dishonest in the PTC/PTR industry ,along with clickfraud it is considered to be one one of the top red flag that the site is scam site.In other words they are basically slagging Nerdbux in public .Maybe they decided to switch to fraudbusting?:RpS_laugh:

Fat City, LA
01-24-2014, 12:03 AM
Using and renting/selling bots is considered to be majorly dishonest in the PTC/PTR industry ,along with clickfraud it is considered to be one one of the top red flag that the site is scam site.In other words they are basically slagging Nerdbux in public .Maybe they decided to switch to fraudbusting?:RpS_laugh:

I have some experience with Kathleen. My one internt business is an autoresponder team build.
Kathleen builds splash pages and banners, etc

I got a message from her saying: (i'm paraphrasing) Saw your looking for splash pages, here is link for my packages.
My teambuild provides the splash. its the only ones you can use. I NEVER posted anything about it.

Did she really get banned for questioning this PTC or was it for spamming?

path2prosperity
01-24-2014, 08:07 AM
A Tale of 3 Daves. (http://blog.empowernetwork.com/blog/tale-of-three-daves/?id=Joseph)

"This is the story of the “Davids”

David Wood asked the questions. David Sharpe teamed up with him and together they found the answers. The idea for the Empower Network was conceived, and over the last year over 80,000 customers helped to bring it to life.

Then there was another David.

The David in the video that you just watched.

The unlikely hero that lived most of his life deaf, and just had his first $1,000 day marketing on the internet.

“I go you go.”

“He goes you go.”

“If he can, you can.”

You will make a decision to join when you believe that you can do it.

Do you believe that you can do it?"

WHO IS THE THIRD DAVID? Fat slob of 2013?

Fendaril
01-24-2014, 08:25 AM
A Tale of 3 Daves. (http://blog.empowernetwork.com/blog/tale-of-three-daves/?id=Joseph)

"This is the story of the “Davids”

David Wood asked the questions. David Sharpe teamed up with him and together they found the answers. The idea for the Empower Network was conceived, and over the last year over 80,000 customers helped to bring it to life.

Then there was another David.

The David in the video that you just watched.

The unlikely hero that lived most of his life deaf, and just had his first $1,000 day marketing on the internet.

“I go you go.”

“He goes you go.”

“If he can, you can.”

You will make a decision to join when you believe that you can do it.

Do you believe that you can do it?"

WHO IS THE THIRD DAVID? Fat slob of 2013?

Who is this new guy with the ponytail? I see him all over the net as a new leader of empower.

EDIT: oh is justin. The top dude making 40k a month. I feel really small compared to him.

My rant:

I truly believe deep down in my heart the two Dave's are good people who had a vision, but just went on about it the wrong way.

Its shameless deeds like those of Vick that ruin that vision and make MlM look like a den of theives.

BoBosworth56
01-25-2014, 07:14 PM
Empower Network is holding their event this weekend in Miami. In the past they have suckered in several people with these events. With that being said, each event has a smaller crowd size. It's a matter of time before the pyramid crashes.

Dave Ritchie
01-27-2014, 04:31 AM
@Fenderil
Don't blame Vick for making MLM look like a den of thieves. MLM looks like a den of thieves because the industry at large is led by thieves. I suppose whether or not one sees that pernicious industry as a den of thieves depends on how one defines "thief". The New Oxford American Dictionary defines "thief as "a person who steals another person's property, esp. by stealth and without using force or violence." That's the definition I'll go out on a limb here and assert is generally accepted on the planet I inhabit. So . . . Ummmm . . . yeah, they're pretty much all thieves--some of who've been busted and some of whom haven't. Or maybe the quibble is over the definition of "den". OMG, I hope we don't have to go there too!

Dave Ritchie
01-27-2014, 05:21 AM
Its shameless deeds like those of Vick that ruin that vision and make MlM look like a den of theives.

I don't know you, Fendaril. So I hope you made this statement with your tongue firmly in your cheek. However, in case you were serious, why would you blame Vick for making MLM look like a den of thieves? MLM looks like a den of thieves on accounta the MLM industry at large is led by thieves--from company founders and CEOs down through high-level IBOs. Of course, I suppose one could quibble over the definition of "thief". The New Oxford American Dictionary defines "thief" as "a person who steals another person's property, esp. by stealth and without using force or violence." I'm going to go way out on a limb here and assert that theirs is the generally-accepted definition on the planet I inhabit. So . . . Ummm . . . Yeah, they're pretty much thieves.

If, on the other hand, your comment is facetious, then never mind (said in my best impression of the great "Emily Lattella" character from the first edition of SNL).

Fendaril
01-28-2014, 07:44 PM
I don't know you, Fendaril. So I hope you made this statement with your tongue firmly in your cheek. However, in case you were serious, why would you blame Vick for making MLM look like a den of thieves? MLM looks like a den of thieves on accounta the MLM industry at large is led by thieves--from company founders and CEOs down through high-level IBOs. Of course, I suppose one could quibble over the definition of "thief". The New Oxford American Dictionary defines "thief" as "a person who steals another person's property, esp. by stealth and without using force or violence." I'm going to go way out on a limb here and assert that theirs is the generally-accepted definition on the planet I inhabit. So . . . Ummm . . . Yeah, they're pretty much thieves.

If, on the other hand, your comment is facetious, then never mind (said in my best impression of the great "Emily Lattella" character from the first edition of SNL).

I should have been more specific. I was referring to Empower Network in the sense that although it skirts on the law, and it does use some tactics that I don't really endorse,the two Dave's are entreprenuers.Like any entreprenuer they have a vision, but when you blatantly steal downline commissions and claim a technical glitch, that just makes the whole business look bad.

So in short its vick's actions that make people think the people behind empower network are heartless con man, rather than highly successful salespeople who use manipulation at times to accelerate their goals. It's the type of manipulation and emphasis on recruiting others with promises of riches that repel me, but it works for some people obviously.

Once again i'm not endorsing MlM or the tactics used to draw people in, but I don't endorse lies and cons, and people who hide behind an MlM and give it a worse name than it already has.

BoBosworth56
01-29-2014, 02:05 PM
I should have been more specific. I was referring to Empower Network in the sense that although it skirts on the law, and it does use some tactics that I don't really endorse,the two Dave's are entreprenuers.Like any entreprenuer they have a vision, but when you blatantly steal downline commissions and claim a technical glitch, that just makes the whole business look bad.

So in short its vick's actions that make people think the people behind empower network are heartless con man, rather than highly successful salespeople who use manipulation at times to accelerate their goals. It's the type of manipulation and emphasis on recruiting others with promises of riches that repel me, but it works for some people obviously.

Once again i'm not endorsing MlM or the tactics used to draw people in, but I don't endorse lies and cons, and people who hide behind an MlM and give it a worse name than it already has.

David Wood and David Sharpe are well aware of what Vick does to get people into EN. They are totally fine with it because it makes them rich too.

Several people filed complaints to EN about Vick stealing their downlines. Of course nothing was done and Vick kept all of their money.

khawaja1971
01-30-2014, 01:53 PM
The people at the helm of EN were / are outright liars. The supposedly struggling homeless heroes are children of upper crust society.

BoBosworth56
03-09-2014, 04:19 PM
Ironically David Wood, David Sharpe and Justin Verrengia....aka 3 of the top earners in the Empower Network pyramid scheme have impregnated their significant others recently. Coincidence? I think not!

Whip
03-09-2014, 04:57 PM
are you thinking they are in a sperm mlm scheme?

Fendaril
03-10-2014, 07:35 PM
What I want to know is why all the rich guys in internet marketing dump their girlfriends and get models.

Isn't that mean?

ribshaw
03-10-2014, 10:15 PM
What I want to know is why all the rich guys in internet marketing dump their girlfriends and get models.

Isn't that mean?

Cold comfort perhaps...

7192

NikSam
03-10-2014, 11:23 PM
What I want to know is why all the rich guys in internet marketing dump their girlfriends and get models.

Isn't that mean?

If they do not dump their wife and children, switching one girlfriend for a model is not biggie in this prospective.

Fendaril
03-11-2014, 09:04 AM
Well if its a girlfriend of 4 years it can be sad. Maybe its just me.

littleroundman
03-11-2014, 09:46 AM
What I want to know is why all the rich guys in internet marketing dump their girlfriends and get models.

Isn't that mean?

When you have just ripped off a few thousand people, breaking an extra heart or two means next to nothing to this kind of lowlife.

laidback
03-11-2014, 09:59 AM
Cold comfort perhaps...

7192LOL, given the choice of the babe or the car. take the car, it's cheaper in the end...!

BoBosworth56
03-17-2014, 10:58 PM
Empower Network decline taking its toll? | BehindMLM (http://behindmlm.com/companies/empower-network/empower-network-decline-taking-its-toll/)

Great read!

JustTooMuchTime
03-21-2014, 12:30 PM
ScamXPoser has been promoting Empower Network - giving it 5 stars! :duh:

Here's David of ScamXPoser's bottom line:


"Bottom line; I think this could be a good thing for you too. Whether you are a beginner in this arena – which this system was really tailored for – or an expert. There are a lot of “experts” who are already members of Empower Network, because they see the value in it."

You can see how much he loves Empower Network here (http://scamxposer.com/business-review/empower-network/).

At least he had the sense to put the word experts in quotes.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_cAS-mvV20

JustTooMuchTime
03-28-2014, 10:22 PM
" The FTC has received more than 160 complaints about the company. In the complaints, which the FTC released to TINA.org in response to a Freedom of Information request, consumers said the company offered products that didn’t have any useful information, they were pressured into investing thousands of dollars to qualify for higher commissions but ended up in debt, and were pushed into recruiting others to earn revenue. When they asked for refunds on the products they found useless, and requested the company stop charging their credit cards each month, the company gave them a hard time."

From Truth In Advertising:
https://www.truthinadvertising.org/empower-network/

BoBosworth56
04-06-2014, 12:34 PM
David Wood, David Sharpe, Vick Strizheus, Justin Verrengia and other top pimps of this scam belong in prison!

Beacon
06-03-2014, 09:20 AM
this guy seems to have a utube site where everyone is "the best" affiliate marketer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCA0b-u4ah8


One of the things he is pushing is Empower Network
Empower Network - (http://jamesstarr.empowernetwork.com/)

Oddly enough while his address is James Starr
Empower Network: Commission Loophole (http://www.empowernetwork.com/commissionloophole?id=jamesstarr)

The video begins with "James WOOD"

Anyway you eventually come across the old one of my downline was s student/poor/owed money etc. tried all sort of marketing schemes and always lost money and struggled to live but now is making millions due to empower. The guy referred to here is Justin Verrengia

This guy however it seems was not living peniless and has a serial record of duping on other scams and rather than living in a scack was travelling round the world spending that money.
Justin Verrengia Is A Scam Artist? Yes He Is In My Opinion. | Ethan Vanderbuilt (http://ethanvanderbuilt.com/2013/11/18/justin-verrengia-scam-artist-yes-opinion/)
2009 - selling My Cash Cow System.
video from 2008 where he explains what he was doing before MLM
2008 video how he makes $1-5K per day. In some of his videos today he claims he could only make a few thousand a month.

Apparently he was inducted by James Wood but that wont stop miracle worker Starr claiming him.

ribshaw
06-03-2014, 02:09 PM
Speaking of "best" marketers, I forgot about this. Interesting article, with lots of adult words.

South Dakota has finally decided that it has had enough of Vick Strizheus’ MLM shenanigans. It seems that because Vick couldn’t uphold the state’s (super-awesome) Business Opportunity Law, he is now barred (if he wish to remain unbarred) from promoting any network marketing scam … including the Empower “99% failure rate” Network.

South Dakotan Exodus- Vick Strizheus Leaves Empower Network (http://www.glancingweb.com/2885/south-dakotan-exodus)

BoBosworth56
06-03-2014, 03:57 PM
David Wood has been very active on his FB page the past few weeks trying to guilt people into joining the Empower Network scam.

Here are some examples:

David Wood
12 hours ago
Why I know everyone that is ever any kind of a leader in my team who left...

...they will all be back:

a) Most of them have come back already.

b) The ones who haven't want to - but are still working out how to frame it. (honestly - it's ok - people will love you if you tell them the truth. Trust me.)

c) None of them are in a company who's sole mission is to love the team. Empower Network is the only one. The only one.

I feel bad for anyone not getting to Charlotte.

I just wanted to tell you all who read my posts, but won't like them out of fear:

I love you.

David Wood
12 hours ago
If I didn't own Empower Network, LLC - I would make a half million dollars a month - as a rep.

Happily doing almost nothing.

I wouldn't make products.

I wouldn't train.

I'd just sell stuff, go to the beach, and help my team sell stuff and go to the beach.

And thank God every day for a great company, with products that make sense.

That's it - period!

Except of course - if you're average. Please look at this:
EN Income Disclosure (http://badasscontent.com/dwdisclosure)

David Wood
12 hours ago
I'm going to give you the biggest bonus ever for joining.

Here it is:

You have the privilege of getting in ...and buying happily at full price - with no discounts, bonus training, or hype of any kind.

Other than this:

If you don't get in, right now - you're going to miss out on a window - a window to do something great, with someone who understands how to get you there.

With a team that will fight their way there WITH you.

Because when you join the team - here's the deal:

You don't have to make up stuff - you can just sell, and go to the beach in your free time. That's actually the bonus.

Freedom.

David Wood
Yesterday
If you've been thinking about joining.

Just join.

It's just 'starting' to get good.

If you were in before, and want to come back, but are nervous about being a wussy - it's ok.

I forgive you, as long as you don't quit again.

You are welcome to get back in.

Because it's your time.

BoBosworth56
06-03-2014, 03:59 PM
What I posted above is just a FEW. There are several similar posts on his page that I could have posted. David Wood the coward, doing whatever it takes to steal a persons last dime.

Fat City, LA
06-03-2014, 04:24 PM
I know some non MLM/Program types who tried it. (just regular bloggers trying to monitize their blog).
They gave it a try, made zilch and moved on.

Simon of BB fame and the other pimps moved on.

D Wood is just out there. He reminds me of the clowns behind Ripplin toward the end.

BoBosworth56
06-03-2014, 06:12 PM
I know some non MLM/Program types who tried it. (just regular bloggers trying to monitize their blog).
They gave it a try, made zilch and moved on.

Simon of BB fame and the other pimps moved on.

D Wood is just out there. He reminds me of the clowns behind Ripplin toward the end.

Indeed.

David Wood
13 minutes ago
Getting ready to lay it on

A couple hangouts tonight - one for my list and team at 8 EST, and then one for members of Empower Network, LLC at 9 EST.

Quick warning:

I'm pumped up.

And I've got a plan to get Empower Network to $20 million a month in the next 120 days.

Leading by example.

You all in?

See our income disclosure here:
EN Income Disclosure (http://badasscontent.com/dwdisclosure)

David Wood
about an hour ago
I wanted to officially inform you:

Empower Network, LLC is back.

And by the way - after Charlotte - it won't be 'back' --- it will be...

...a sight to witness.

Don't miss the train. It's only passing by to pick you up this one time. Get on, or miss it.

Your time is running out.

Act now.




Just more rah rah bullshit from the balding scammer.

BoBosworth56
06-03-2014, 06:14 PM
He was saying the same crap just a month ago before Vick got kicked out. Talking about how you better get in right now to see the amazing new training from Vick Strizheus. Unfortunately there are those so brainwashed that they buy into every single word he says. Quite pathetic.

BoBosworth56
06-28-2014, 10:47 PM
The Empower Network scammers are holding an event in Charlotte as we speak. They were able to con a few hundred new members. Fortunately it is not enough to save them. Their pyramid is collapsing.

Gina
06-29-2014, 06:09 PM
Just found this on You Tube.


<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/Kxu0CAjSmlw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Gina
06-29-2014, 06:13 PM
Sorry....I'm challenged when it comes to sharing videos and such. I thought that would bring up actual video but it didn't, so here's the link.

Empower Network Ponzi Scam Parody - YouTube (http://youtu.be/Kxu0CAjSmlw)

littleroundman
06-29-2014, 06:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxu0CAjSmlw&amp;feature=player_detailpage

Gina
06-29-2014, 06:26 PM
Thank you, littleroundman, and sorry for my incompetence on posting videos! (I will get it eventually)

Gina
06-30-2014, 07:32 PM
I always knew this was a ridiculous scam, but reading the posts I was curious, so I went on their Facebook page today. Go ahead and have a look. The people posting comments in there sound WORSE than any religious cult I've ever seen. It reminds me of Jim Jones in Guyana circa 1978 or 79, can't remember. (I'm serious, check it out. I think it's dangerous) I so want to post above video to their page but am afraid!

Gina
06-30-2014, 08:56 PM
For example, there was this quote from David Wood....

"If you were with us in Charlotte, chances are
you witnessed the transformation's that were
able to take place as speakers got onto stage
and spoke life into us and our business.

It was transformational."


"transformation's"???? apostrophe "s"? I won't even get into the rest of it. It speaks for itself.

ribshaw
07-01-2014, 09:19 AM
Generally speaking there is a direct correlation between the amount of motivational crap and the scammines of an opportunity. I wanted to add a few of my faves for the people who think going "all in" means anything more than ALL your MONEY IN the DAVE'S wallets.

7882

7883

7884

7885


https://www.facebook.com/empowernetworkcorp

Gina
07-01-2014, 12:34 PM
The comments underneath the motivational crap are the scariest, however.

Like this:

"I'm all in, finally!! Such a battle to get the money but made it with 20 minutes to spare! Borrowed money from my dad, I know it's going to be worth it!!"


Or this:

"At the Empower CHARLOTTE EVENT all of Empower Network Community helped keep me A LIVE! Making sure my oxygen concentrator was plugged in so I could breath."

Followed by:

"badasscontent website seems to be down"

and then:

"YOU ARE THIEVES! I have cancelled the affiliate and viral blogging programmes I subscribed to as per the website instructions. I see I am still active every night for the last 5 nights since I cancelled.

I've been trying to submit a ticket as well and your site continues to say there is a field that is missing and won't let me submit it.

Obviously your site has been set up to make it impossible to cancel your subscription and make a refund as per the terms of your refund policy.

I want a refund and I want an assurance that no further funds will be deducted from my account.

You continue to delete my posts in here and I will continue to post them as long as you do not honour the terms of your policies.

Further more, I have made a complaint to FTC about your fraudulant practices.

You are nothing more than thieves. Will screenshot this post as well and send it on to FTC AND AM ACTIVELY ENCORAGING EVERYONE ELSE I HAVE COME ACROSS ON THE INTERNET YOU HAVE DONE THE SAME THING TOO TO LET FTC KNOW"

:)

ribshaw
07-01-2014, 03:41 PM
"I'm all in, finally!! Such a battle to get the money but made it with 20 minutes to spare! Borrowed money from my dad, I know it's going to be worth it!!"


Sounds more like the Daves are finally all in. Not only is this cat now out $5000 Thanksgiving dinner is going to suck for a lot of years to come. Getting people to run up debt to buy some crap opportunity is perhaps one of the most egregious things scammers can do. One thing if they happen to have some dosh just looking for a home, but to scrounge for it an lose it usually ends badly.

BoBosworth56
07-03-2014, 06:03 PM
Sounds more like the Daves are finally all in. Not only is this cat now out $5000 Thanksgiving dinner is going to suck for a lot of years to come. Getting people to run up debt to buy some crap opportunity is perhaps one of the most egregious things scammers can do. One thing if they happen to have some dosh just looking for a home, but to scrounge for it an lose it usually ends badly.

You noticed the whole "with 20 minutes to spare" part. That is something the scammer Vick Strizheus and several other scammers do. Basically tell others that they have a limited time to join the scam. That time window is ALWAYS open later than what it originally states.

Gina
07-03-2014, 06:05 PM
They remind me of Scientologists

BoBosworth56
07-03-2014, 06:07 PM
In the last month or so, the balding scammer David Wood guilted people into going to the Charlotte event without any ANY excuses. He made it sound like they would all arrive and be able to have access to the fountain of youth. Nope, you know what all of the BS hype was about and what they really got?

A "Fight the Forces of Evil" DVD that they of course had to buy and now have to scam onto others. OMG, you mean those EN zombies traveled all the way to Charlotte for that?? LOL

Like clockwork, David Woods scamming ass is already trying to promote the next Orlando event as the next big thing.

Scammers going to scam.

BoBosworth56
07-03-2014, 06:08 PM
They remind me of Scientologists

Absolutely or any type of occult. Fortunately, thousands woke up and left the scam. David Wood is desperate at this point.

Gina
07-03-2014, 06:13 PM
Yeah, maybe they really will have their badass event at the Cracker Barrel in Orlando.

BoBosworth56
07-03-2014, 06:24 PM
Yeah, maybe they really will have their badass event at the Cracker Barrel in Orlando.

Lol, with that being said whenever they do announce where it will be at I think I will contact the hotel and complain. I will also contact every news media in Orlando in hopes that they do an investigative report on the scam and how it has broken peoples bank accounts and lives.

Gina
07-03-2014, 06:27 PM
I was just going to say; pardon my ignorance, but has anyone contacted the media before about these kind of groups? Like a Chris Hanson, undercover kind of thing....where you go in and buy everything and then, bam, expose them. I guess the problem is there's so many of them, where would one start?

BoBosworth56
07-03-2014, 06:35 PM
I was just going to say; pardon my ignorance, but has anyone contacted the media before about these kind of groups? Like a Chris Hanson, undercover kind of thing....where you go in and buy everything and then, bam, expose them. I guess the problem is there's so many of them, where would one start?

I have but I think I was the only one so nothing came of it. It doesn't hurt to report your concerns to the media. I think it's best to do it with the local media, in this case the media outlets in Orlando.

Gina
07-03-2014, 06:41 PM
I'm in Los Angeles, so I can contact CNN. (I have before about a different matter and they are very responsive.) Do let us know when their next ridiculous cult meeting is, Bo:)

BoBosworth56
07-03-2014, 07:10 PM
I'm in Los Angeles, so I can contact CNN. (I have before about a different matter and they are very responsive.) Do let us know when their next ridiculous cult meeting is, Bo:)

I will certainly do so and I appreciate your efforts :)

BoBosworth56
07-11-2014, 09:14 PM
Oh how the mighty and hippy have fallen...

Alexa Site Overview (http://www.alexa.com/comparison/empowernetwork.com)

David Wood, you have scammed thousands of people in the past. You have called people wussies when they didn't join your scam (then proceeded to preach about an income disclosure), you have avoided me when I called you out and asked you for an interview. Karma is a bitch. Your pyramid scheme is collapsing faster than a Jenga board game. POW!

littleroundman
07-11-2014, 09:31 PM
http://imageshack.com/a/img849/9440/thdx.jpg

BoBosworth56
07-11-2014, 09:38 PM
Thanks for posting the image LRM. Anyways you can post the image from the site comparison from the link I sent? It shows the overall Alexa rank drop from I think Jan 14 to July 14.

Thanks

littleroundman
07-11-2014, 10:44 PM
That's all I'm getting, Bo.

Your link takes me to a blank page which asks me to enter a site name

Here is the period from January to July 2014, snipped from the above image:

http://imageshack.com/a/img822/4606/nn0xv.jpg

BoBosworth56
07-11-2014, 10:52 PM
Oh ok, it might be because I am signed onto their page but that is an accurate pic. Pretty much the graph shows a sharp decline from Jan 2014 to July 2014. The Empower Network pyramid is collapsing. For those thinking about joining, don't do it.

BoBosworth56
08-06-2014, 05:33 PM
I'm in Los Angeles, so I can contact CNN. (I have before about a different matter and they are very responsive.) Do let us know when their next ridiculous cult meeting is, Bo:)

Gina, EN will hold their next cult meeting in Orlando October 23-26th. It will be held at the Hyatt Regency Orlando at 9801 International Dr.

littleroundman
11-14-2014, 01:46 AM
Personal from Tony Rush (resignation from Empower Network)

Hey guys,

I wanted to let you know directly from me that — as of last Thursday, November 6th, — Jessica and I have resigned our business position with Empower Network.

We are no longer an affiliate in the company.

We’ve been with Empower Network for three years. I’ve genuinely enjoyed working with people like Aaron Rashkin, Lawrence Tam, Tracey Walker, Jon Mroz, David Sharpe, and other leaders.

We were able to do some things that had never been done before….and we created something that was very amazing in the beginning.

I’ll always be grateful — not just for the income and lifestyle we created for our family — but for the experience of being part of something new and exciting.

However, over the last several months, there have been various internal issues in the company that I felt were critical and needed to be urgently dealt with.

But, as time went on, the company has been more focused on getting affiliates to buy new products rather than dealing with the issues that are causing people to struggle in the business.

And, of course, I don’t own the company. And they’re free to make any decision they feel is best for the company.

But, eventually, I had to realize that that my own path, goals and values were no longer in alignment with the company.

So, as of Thursday, November 6th, I resigned my position.

You may have noticed that — for the last several months — our Wake Up To Success call has become more about general internet marketing tips, personal development, leadership, etc…..and not specifically about Empower.

It’s in this way that I hope to be able to continue to serve you.

We have made our Wake Up To Success call completely generic and a “safe place” for anyone in the home business to attend. I hope you’ll take advantage of this new format to take your business to new heights.

Finally, I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart and tell you that it’s been an honor working with you.

We’ve made some of our best friends here in this group and I know that they continue regardless of what companies we are working in.

Tony & Jessica Rush



And the wheels on the pyramid bus go round and round, round and round, round and round

Please place your bets on which pyramid scheme Tony Rush attaches himself to next at the main desk as you leave

Beacon
12-14-2014, 06:01 AM
some info from a basic trawl

Rushempowerteam.com Whois Lookup - Who.is - Who.is (http://who.is/whois/rushempowerteam.com)

Domain Name: RUSHEMPOWERTEAM.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1707432221_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.bluehost.com
Registrar URL: The Best Web Hosting | Fast Professional Website Hosting Services - Bluehost (http://www.bluehost.com/)
Updated Date: 2014-02-14T04:41:32Z
Creation Date: 2012-03-16T00:53:27Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-03-16T00:53:28Z
Registrar: FastDomain Inc.
Registrar IANA ID: 1154
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: Email Masking Image@bluehost.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1 801 765 9400
Reseller: BlueHost.Com
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited (https://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited)
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: TONY RUSH
Registrant Organization: 2932 ROSS CLARK CIRCLE
Registrant Street: SUITE 305
Registrant City: DOTHAN
Registrant State/Province: ALABAMA
Registrant Postal Code: 36301
Registrant Country: UNITED STATES
Registrant Phone: +1.3346558194
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: Email Masking Image@TONYRUSH.COM
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: TONY RUSH
Admin Organization: 2932 ROSS CLARK CIRCLE
Admin Street: SUITE 305
Admin City: DOTHAN
Admin State/Province: ALABAMA
Admin Postal Code: 36301
Admin Country: UNITED STATES
Admin Phone: +1.3346558194
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: Email Masking Image@TONYRUSH.COM
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: BLUEHOST INC
Tech Organization: BLUEHOST.COM
Tech Street: 1958 SOUTH 950 EAST
Tech City: PROVO
Tech State/Province: UTAH
Tech Postal Code: 84606
Tech Country: UNITED STATES
Tech Phone: +1.8017659400
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: +1.8017651992

tonyrush.com
is hiding under ednt7e8e4@ @whoisproof.com

but we know who/where from above

see also Tony Rush | Thoughts on success, marketing and whatever… (http://tonyrushblog.com)
Unlimited Lifestyles, 2932 Ross Clark Circle, Suite 305, Dothan, AL 36305

and
Entrepreneurs Wanted - Work Directly With Tony Rush - Make Money From Home (http://www.best7minutes.com)

JustTooMuchTime
12-14-2014, 03:32 PM
More domains from WhoisMind (http://www.whoismind.com/email/tony@tonyrush.com.html)


"The list below contains all domains related to the email address tony@tonyrush.com. The list is made of domains using the above email address on their website or in their whois record. We also link domains to email addresses by using our internal algorithm.

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1. copywritingmasteryreport.com
2. rushempowerteam.com
3. thenext10topearners.com
4. theshortlink.com"

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Fendaril
05-27-2015, 12:19 PM
I think the decline has to do with the fact they completely overhauled their system.

For example the kalatu blog

Char
05-27-2015, 01:05 PM
Or, it was a pyramid scheme/ponzi that ran out of new members /suckers to recruit.

susan
10-23-2016, 12:22 AM
Top Empower Network Leaders Jason C. Waite and Peter Day Share Stories | 12 K / Month (http://12kpermonth.donnybrookus.com/2012/09/27/top_empower_network_leaders_jason_c-_waite_and_peter_day_share_stories/)

They have made dozens (hundreds) of videos and it looks a lot like any other scam.



I have not watched a video, they are sickening to me. It is all the same old, some old...

Domain Name: EMPOWERNETWORK.COM
Created on: 07-Jan-06
Expires on: 07-Jan-21 Last Updated on: 02-Nov-11
Registrant: Empower Network, LLC
3160 9th Ave North
Saint Petersburg, Florida 33713 United State
s Administrative Contact: Wood, David legal@empowernetwork.com
Empower Network, LLC
3160 9th Ave North
Saint Petersburg, Florida 33713
United States +1.8015429350
Technical Contact: Wood, David legal@empowernetwork.com
Empower Network, LLC
3160 9th Ave North
Saint Petersburg, Florida 33713
United States +1.8015429350
Domain servers in listed order:
NS.SOURCEDNS.COM
NS1.SOURCEDNS.COM

Looks like a group of young network marketers.


Wow...holy cap I live literally three blocks down the street from them!!!!!!! I just joined...

look, I found this. https://www.google.com/search?q=empowr+network+location&rlz=1C1AVNE_enUS627US627&oq=empowr+network+location&aqs=chrome..69i64j0l2j69i57.5514j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=empowr+network+st+petersburg&lrd=0x88c2e19d195714d1:0x6ea3b3e7afa725f3,1,

Fat City, LA
10-23-2016, 08:45 PM
Wow...holy cap I live literally three blocks down the street from them!!!!!!! I just joined...

look, I found this. https://www.google.com/search?q=empowr+network+location&rlz=1C1AVNE_enUS627US627&oq=empowr+network+location&aqs=chrome..69i64j0l2j69i57.5514j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=empowr+network+st+petersburg&lrd=0x88c2e19d195714d1:0x6ea3b3e7afa725f3,1,

I just went to Dali Museum and a few bars in downtown St Pete a few days ago.
I have a place in Clearwater, quick trip to get an eyeball on these turds thiefs den next time Im there.

Bestbud
06-10-2017, 12:52 PM
The most disturbing live video of David Wood was removed; but, whatever he's on is one hell of a drug...

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212631218796373&set=p.10212631218796373&type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/empowernetwork/videos/10212123296692954/?pnref=story

https://www.facebook.com/empowernetwork

Bestbud
06-10-2017, 04:22 PM
The disturbing video of David Wood...

https://www.facebook.com/mary.stone.7758/videos/vb.100007198602500/1907464239503511/?type=2&theater

ribshaw
06-10-2017, 04:43 PM
If ever there was a video Washable Jones needs to copy for posterity this is the one.

19488

Bestbud
06-10-2017, 05:26 PM
And, the memes begin...

19489

Bestbud
06-10-2017, 08:50 PM
When he's back? He's pretty far gone...

19490

littleroundman
06-10-2017, 09:03 PM
If ever there was a video Washable Jones needs to copy for posterity this is the one.


https://vimeo.com/221120455

surfer
06-10-2017, 11:01 PM
You will be committed to a mental institution for the safety of yourself and others.......NOW!!

:crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:

Bestbud
06-11-2017, 09:45 AM
"With Wood working alone at the helm, Empower Network has continued to plunge into decline."

David Wood claims he can heal cancer, herpes, HIV, AIDS & diabetes (http://behindmlm.com/companies/empower-network/david-wood-claims-he-can-heal-cancer-herpes-hiv-aids-diabetes/#more-37201)

Bestbud
06-11-2017, 11:24 AM
Mack Zidan aka Mack Mills recruiting for BitClub Network...

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19496

Did Empower Network "defraud" Mack Zidan? (http://behindmlm.com/companies/empower-network/did-empower-network-defraud-mack-zidan/)

Bestbud
06-11-2017, 01:06 PM
Mack isn't done yet...

19497

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Whip
06-11-2017, 02:23 PM
you mean consuming cocaine right?

Bestbud
06-11-2017, 08:47 PM
All gone...

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Bestbud
06-11-2017, 08:48 PM
David Sharpe's response...

https://www.facebook.com/davidsharpelive/videos/905398359600604

littleroundman
06-11-2017, 10:06 PM
David Sharpe's response...

https://www.facebook.com/davidsharpelive/videos/905398359600604


https://vimeo.com/221208145

Bestbud
06-12-2017, 09:45 AM
I don't know about anyone else; but, I'll be ordering Corona with lemon from now on...

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