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scratchycat
08-25-2012, 01:06 PM
Please notice!! If you click on a link that should take you to a particular place in Adland/Scamland, you will be redirected to a Splash Page. DO NOT LET IT DISCOURAGE YOU!! Just hover your mouse over the link, right-click, copy shortcut, open a new Window or Tab in whatever browser you use and in the address link (page that you want to go to), right-click and paste into that line. It will take you directly to the link.

If my instructions are not clear enough, please contact administration for another way around this. I am sure it can be done, techs will just have to figure it out.

In the meantime, they cannot stop RealScam for continuing to expose their den of scammers.

path2prosperity
08-25-2012, 05:21 PM
Please notice!! If you click on a link that should take you to a particular place in Adland/Scamland, you will be redirected to a Splash Page. DO NOT LET IT DISCOURAGE YOU!! Just hover your mouse over the link, right-click, copy shortcut, open a new Window or Tab in whatever browser you use and in the address link (page that you want to go to), right-click and paste into that line. It will take you directly to the link.

If my instructions are not clear enough, please contact administration for another way around this. I am sure it can be done, techs will just have to figure it out.

In the meantime, they cannot stop RealScam for continuing to expose their den of scammers.

I think RS admin have corrected a lot of the links "scratchy". However I can't understand your instructions but that is not your fault. I have worked all day and I am nearly falling asleep at the keyboard. All my links connected with Maurice Bernier and F5Mmillionaires club still get redirected. It might be different, if I used IE.

I asked GOF to have a look at it and see if he could help figure out what the scum at Scamland have been up to.

path2prosperity
08-25-2012, 05:26 PM
Does this constitute hacking or an attempt to hack into any RS or any of RS users computers? If so please can admin tell us the best places to report the matter.

scratchycat
08-25-2012, 06:10 PM
This is an attempt by Scamland/Adland to divert our links to their Splash page (Hello page). I am not sure what it can be called. The links we have posted work but you cannot just click on them in RS, you have to copy the link into another window or page before you can go there. Whatever browser you use, it should work. They have been able to REDIRECT links from RealScam to their Hello page.

It will not stop RS from being able to send people to these scams. I suggest a Facebook Page for RealScam, they cannot and will not block Facebook or any other site with lots of traffic. It is not just our IP's being blocked it is all of RealScam.

I think we should exploit this. Why does Adlandpro feel they have to block Real Scam links? This should be very interesting to any government agency looking into Scam, Fraud, and illegal programs. We are exposing them and they want to stop it, WHY???? They have something to hide!! Report, Report, Report!!!!!!!!!!!!

path2prosperity
08-25-2012, 10:39 PM
You are right "scratchy."

If I hover my mouse over the link, I get the option to Copy Link Location. If I paste that into the address bar and open it in a new window, I find the original.

I am disgusted by ex Adlanders who are prepared to tolerate those who are helping their top scammers like Maurice Bernier, Jill Bachman, Carol Salisbury, Kathleen Vanbeenkom, Mary Evelyn Simpson, Jim Allen etc by doing nothing. SBM has done her best to bring this cyberspace sewer down and we should be helping her.

It look as if the scammers have had help from inside RS and the person or people concerned need to be brought to justice. If this is not a hacking what is it? Why do we have to tolerste those who know Jill Bachman and Carol Salisbury were huge Andy Bowdoin earners and have not got the spherical objects to do something to help show these two bits of scum up for what they really are.

littleroundman
08-25-2012, 10:42 PM
It look as if the scammers have had help from inside RS and the person or people concerned need to be brought to justice.

Oh, please, get a grip, Judy.

path2prosperity
08-25-2012, 10:45 PM
How can we restore the damage then?

littleroundman
08-25-2012, 11:16 PM
There IS no "damage"

Please read my post HERE (http://www.realscam.com/f9/scamlandpro-your-one-stop-site-all-scams-1276/index11.html#post27303)in the relevant thread before this gets out of hand

path2prosperity
08-26-2012, 03:36 AM
I did find a virus on my computer. It was one that said that Adobe Flash Player updates were available but AVG picked it up as potentially dangerous. Please take care when you get the message to update that particular program.

I did not intend to cast aspersions on any member of RS whom we know can be deemed trustworthy but people like Maurice Bernier and Kathleen Vanbeenkom have joined us as RS members and they are members who are intent on harming RS. Have either of them been banned here?

scratchycat
08-26-2012, 08:49 AM
You are right "scratchy."

If I hover my mouse over the link, I get the option to Copy Link Location. If I paste that into the address bar and open it in a new window, I find the original.

I am disgusted by ex Adlanders who are prepared to tolerate those who are helping their top scammers like Maurice Bernier, Jill Bachman, Carol Salisbury, Kathleen Vanbeenkom, Mary Evelyn Simpson, Jim Allen etc by doing nothing. SBM has done her best to bring this cyberspace sewer down and we should be helping her.

It look as if the scammers have had help from inside RS and the person or people concerned need to be brought to justice. If this is not a hacking what is it? Why do we have to tolerste those who know Jill Bachman and Carol Salisbury were huge Andy Bowdoin earners and have not got the spherical objects to do something to help show these two bits of scum up for what they really are.

P2P, it is not "hacking", a server can be set to redirect links from a certain server, ip, or site to another page in their website. I am not that technical but I do run my own website and know that I can do the same. We have upset a lot of apple carts over in Scamland and they want to try and block some of our efforts. It is nothing within RS that caused it, as a scam-fighting community we need to pull together. I realize there are only a few that support our continuation of exposing Scamland but as SBM has said our threads get a lot of traffic so that means people are looking and reading.

Something else I thought of last night, you know Adland has a pay-per-click deal, so whomever this hello page belongs to is cashing in on the traffic they are receiving. Think about that one a few minutes...

As LRM has stated, let's just stay calm and as long as we notify others as how to make the links work, it will stop most of the traffic going to the Hello page. All the other links work that go directly to another website. I realize your frustration but others have to do what they think best and will speak when the time comes to speak. Hopefully, justice will be served in the long run.

path2prosperity
08-26-2012, 09:17 AM
P2P, it is not "hacking", a server can be set to redirect links from a certain server, ip, or site to another page in their website. I am not that technical but I do run my own website and know that I can do the same. We have upset a lot of apple carts over in Scamland and they want to try and block some of our efforts. It is nothing within RS that caused it.



Thanks for explaining that "scratchy." I was really concerned that we had been hacked.

I am still confused though. I had a virus which may have caused some problems which other RS members have not experienced. I have run all tests and they say that the virus is healed but I still find nearly all links are directed to Scamland's hello page. The most recent which you put on post 311 on the "1 Stop for All Scams" (http://www.realscam.com/f9/scamlandpro-your-one-stop-site-all-scams-1276/index13.html) thread lead to the " Hello Page" on my computer.

Are other members able to view this correctly?

path2prosperity
08-26-2012, 09:44 AM
As LRM has stated, let's just stay calm and as long as we notify others as how to make the links work, it will stop most of the traffic going to the Hello page. All the other links work that go directly to another website. I realize your frustration but others have to do what they think best and will speak when the time comes to speak. Hopefully, justice will be served in the long run.

I have invested a great deal of time (which is effectively money ) in order to try and expose what goes on there. You and SBM has unearthed damning evidence against them and it does disgust me that others who know a lot of the people mentioned will not lift a finger to help the place get shut down.

I have been online since 1997 and I have never seen a site where there is so much nauseating porn, scam promotion and insalubrious characters as Scamland. It is hard to be encouraged to carry on while others sit on the fence.

littleroundman
08-26-2012, 10:01 AM
It is hard to be encouraged to carry on while others sit on the fence.

How do you know what "OTHERS" are doing ??

Have you spoken to the "OTHERS" ??

How many "OTHER" possible reasons can you come up with to explain why the "OTHERS" don't interfere with your work "OTHER" than the fact they are "sitting on the fence"

scratchycat
08-26-2012, 01:41 PM
I have invested a great deal of time (which is effectively money ) in order to try and expose what goes on there. You and SBM has unearthed damning evidence against them and it does disgust me that others who know a lot of the people mentioned will not lift a finger to help the place get shut down.

I have been online since 1997 and I have never seen a site where there is so much nauseating porn, scam promotion and insalubrious characters as Scamland. It is hard to be encouraged to carry on while others sit on the fence.

P2P, remember when you got that letter from Bogdan's supposedly lawyer, many members went to bat for you. Some even joined over in Scamland and took some bashing really well before their posts were deleted and they were banned from forums. I am thankful for the support I had when my name showed up on that nasty website. There are just times it seems you are fighting a losing battle but we have made progress, lots of it!! Maybe they are not sitting on the fence, maybe they just feel we are doing such a good job they don't need to help us! :RpS_wink: :RpS_smile:

We need to spread out a little more and get into some other sites, post links there that will go directly to the place we want to link to. I have already done so in some and will get around to others.

Cheers!

scratchycat
08-26-2012, 01:50 PM
Thanks for explaining that "scratchy." I was really concerned that we had been hacked.

I am still confused though. I had a virus which may have caused some problems which other RS members have not experienced. I have run all tests and they say that the virus is healed but I still find nearly all links are directed to Scamland's hello page. The most recent which you put on post 311 on the "1 Stop for All Scams" (http://www.realscam.com/f9/scamlandpro-your-one-stop-site-all-scams-1276/index13.html) thread lead to the " Hello Page" on my computer.

Are other members able to view this correctly? I would like an answer to that one also.

path2prosperity
08-26-2012, 03:36 PM
P2P, remember when you got that letter from Bogdan's supposedly lawyer, many members went to bat for you. Some even joined over in Scamland and took some bashing really well before their posts were deleted and they were banned from forums. I am thankful for the support I had when my name showed up on that nasty website. There are just times it seems you are fighting a losing battle but we have made progress, lots of it!! Maybe they are not sitting on the fence, maybe they just feel we are doing such a good job they don't need to help us! :RpS_wink: :RpS_smile:

We need to spread out a little more and get into some other sites, post links there that will go directly to the place we want to link to. I have already done so in some and will get around to others.

Cheers!

I am very grateful for the support which I received over that stupid threat to sue me "scratchy." I believe that RS is doing a great job showing Scamland up for what it is.

However I do feel very upset about the reluctance of people who have been Adlandpro members to be more proactive in their attempts to get the filthy sewer closed down.

I have had a bad day with my computer. I have got rid of the virus which was redirecting all Adland pages and just bought a registry cleaner which was recommended by my computer systems engineers as the only one which is compatable with their system but it will not run. I am quite certain that the virus was not random and I can not help feeling depressed about people who will not speak out about Jill Bachman and the rest of the scum over there.

Why are they so scared of Bachman and crew?

Soapboxmom
08-26-2012, 04:14 PM
I have invested a great deal of time (which is effectively money ) in order to try and expose what goes on there. You and SBM has unearthed damning evidence against them and it does disgust me that others who know a lot of the people mentioned will not lift a finger to help the place get shut down.

I have been online since 1997 and I have never seen a site where there is so much nauseating porn, scam promotion and insalubrious characters as Scamland. It is hard to be encouraged to carry on while others sit on the fence.
It is like the cheating soccer coach who got suspended for cheating and viciously attacked me because I hadn't supported his nonsense. He blamed me for getting him caught. He vilified me and demanded I leave so he could violate his suspension and continue to coach behind the scenes. Some parents have supported this lying cheater. I am not fighting with any of them. I pursued the proper channels in the recreational soccer league and quietly walked away from the bad situation. I am not sweating what the remaining parents are doing. I continue to post about my experience and speak out.

We may not be able to shut down Scamland and many dishonest people will continue to support that bunch, but we have made folks aware of the scams and garbage there. I take great satisfaction in knowing I have spoken out! People having total apathy is sadly the norm. When our coach got suspended I begged all 16 other families to pull together and have a parent attend the coaching clinic and step up. Not one parent would help. I attended the coaching clinic alone while the suspended coach caused all sorts of discord behind the scenes. We cannot fix that. We can only provide information and support and let folks make their own decisions. We mustn't make their support of scams, lying and / or cheating our problem. Celebrate what you can do!

Soapboxmom

path2prosperity
08-26-2012, 04:55 PM
It is like the cheating soccer coach who got suspended for cheating and viciously attacked me because I hadn't supported his nonsense. He blamed me for getting him caught. He vilified me and demanded I leave so he could violate his suspension and continue to coach behind the scenes. Some parents have supported this lying cheater. I am not fighting with any of them. I pursued the proper channels in the recreational soccer league and quietly walked away from the bad situation. I am not sweating what the remaining parents are doing. I continue to post about my experience and speak out.

We may not be able to shut down Scamland and many dishonest people will continue to support that bunch, but we have made folks aware of the scams and garbage there. I take great satisfaction in knowing I have spoken out! People having total apathy is sadly the norm. When our coach got suspended I begged all 16 other families to pull together and have a parent attend the coaching clinic and step up. Not one parent would help. I attended the coaching clinic alone while the suspended coach caused all sorts of discord behind the scenes. We cannot fix that. We can only provide information and support and let folks make their own decisions. We mustn't make their support of scams, lying and / or cheating our problem. Celebrate what you can do!

Soapboxmom

You are right SBM. We have spoken out and made people aware of what goes on in that sewer.

It is hard to take the apathy of others but I have had a "bad computer day" and nearly driven myself crazy trying to figure out what the machine is doing. I got my registry cleaner installed so that should help the system be more amenable in the future.

scratchycat
08-26-2012, 05:17 PM
You are right SBM. We have spoken out and made people aware of what goes on in that sewer.

It is hard to take the apathy of others but I have had a "bad computer day" and nearly driven myself crazy trying to figure out what the machine is doing. I got my registry cleaner installed so that should help the system be more amenable in the future.

Let's hope you have a better week, P2P. Remember sometimes those registry cleaners can cause more problems, so be selective in what you want cleaned.

I am with you SBM, let's celebrate what we have accomplished!!

kschang
08-26-2012, 05:38 PM
However I do feel very upset about the reluctance of people who have been Adlandpro members to be more proactive in their attempts to get the filthy sewer closed down.


Oh, come on, didn't you hear "birds of a feather, flock together"? ;)



I have had a bad day with my computer. I have got rid of the virus which was redirecting all Adland pages and just bought a registry cleaner which was recommended by my computer systems engineers as the only one which is compatable with their system but it will not run. I am quite certain that the virus was not random and I can not help feeling depressed about people who will not speak out about Jill Bachman and the rest of the scum over there.

I don't use reg cleaners, except the free CCleaner. I know that can't mess up the system (and it saves all the changes just before it does it so you can undo it).

I use the free Comodo Firewall and it works pretty well so far. You can try their "hardened" web browsers, modified versions of Chrome and Firefox, supposed to be more secure.

scratchycat
08-27-2012, 09:57 AM
Oh, come on, didn't you hear "birds of a feather, flock together"? ;)



I don't use reg cleaners, except the free CCleaner. I know that can't mess up the system (and it saves all the changes just before it does it so you can undo it).

I use the free Comodo Firewall and it works pretty well so far. You can try their "hardened" web browsers, modified versions of Chrome and Firefox, supposed to be more secure.

I have used CCCleaner but it changed a lot of things in my registry that caused problems, so I am careful with it now. Thank you for the information though, it is very helpful. Your quote above is very correct and they do!

path2prosperity
08-27-2012, 12:08 PM
Oh, come on, didn't you hear "birds of a feather, flock together"? ;)

That is certainly true about the large majority who are active in Scamland now now but there are also a lot of genuine people who believe that the case against Bachman and Salisbury is unproven.

The Bachman Salisbury duo worked hard to bury evidence that they made a packet from Bowdoin and that they had formed a partnership to build a huge downline. It took time to unearth it but a lot of evidence against them is available in these threads.

path2prosperity
08-29-2012, 01:41 PM
I saw that Eagle was on Skype so I contacted him. He is on holiday and had no idea that BoggyBoy has pulled this trick on RS. He has promised to look into what is happening when he returns.

It looks as if only some members of RS have had their computers effected.

Please can more people come in and comment as to whether they are able to view links from Scamlandpro. My AGV antivirus software has healed the virus that may have caused my computer to be effected.

BoggyBoy is getting really concerned about the damage we are causing his filthy sewer. I opened a new thread about Scamland today and I would like to know if other RS members can see the link or if it is my computer and Saras which have been specifically targeted.

U Wanted 2 Know (http://http://www.realscam.com/f37/news-scamlandpro-has-redirected-links-real-scam-1537/#post27507)

Soapboxmom
08-29-2012, 04:37 PM
We have certainly shone a harsh light on Boggy's sewer. There is no reason to worry about about viruses. I don't have any evidence whatsoever that anyone has had any problems due to any of this.

It is not surprising some Adland links resolve to a hello page. I lost 4000+ posts on Scam and those links go to a page that reads no thread specified. Let's get back to exposing the scams and scamsters there and not sweat this little stuff. Kudos to all who are fighting the good fight.

Soapboxmom

path2prosperity
08-29-2012, 05:38 PM
We have certainly shone a harsh light on Boggy's sewer. There is no reason to worry about about viruses. I don't have any evidence whatsoever that anyone has had any problems due to any of this.

It is not surprising some Adland links resolve to a hello page. I lost 4000+ posts on Scam and those links go to a page that reads no thread specified. Let's get back to exposing the scams and scamsters there and not sweat this little stuff. Kudos to all who are fighting the good fight.

Soapboxmom

You said that a lot of the links on your computer had been directed to BoggyBoys Hello page SBM. That is was what both Sara and I wanted to know. I had a virus that did very strange things and I have never known anything like that before. The virus was a dialogue box telling me to download the latest Adobe flash software. my AVG picked it up as a threat and healed it. I can not help thinking that it was not picked up at random.

It is obvious that BoggyBoy is doing his best to cause problems for those who show him up for what he is and those of us who do not have the technical knowlege to diagnose faults which are not detected by our security software

Soapboxmom
08-29-2012, 07:12 PM
Those links showing up as the hello page is not due to a virus most likely. The threads or posts have been removed or simply moved to appear under a different url so the links are broken. That is why security software doesn't fuss. There is nothing that could cause any problems. It is not anything worth worrying about as far as I know.

Boggy is busy trying to make money with his cesspool. He knows he can't shut us up, so I am sure he has moved on.

Lil Ol' Radical Me
08-29-2012, 07:25 PM
Don't forget that the majority of the work in stopping frauds and other scams do not take place on the public pages of internet forums.

GlimDropper
08-29-2012, 07:47 PM
Perhaps someone more technically inclined than myself can do a better job of explaining this. When you click on an embedded link on this forum the website it links to can see that the link came from this site. AdLand has setup a redirect so that incoming page requests with RS as the referrer get redirected to that splash page. No viruses involved.

Easy work around for existing links, mouse over the link, left mouse click, copy link location. The open a new browser tab or window, paste and go. You'll go to the specific page you were looking for.

On a forward going basis, double click the reply button or hit "go advanced" on the quick reply box. Below the text box you'll see "advanced options" make sure the check box before "Automatically parse links" is unchecked (it's checked by default, uncheck it). and then paste URL links to ALP as plain text. You'll have no choice but to copy and paste urls into new tabs/browser windows but if they're plain text there will be less confusion.

This is something they are doing and nothing we are doing.


Test:
http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2560411/Launch-Alert-Why-This-Is-A-Must-Join-Program-Dont-Miss-Out.aspx

http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2560411/Launch-Alert-Why-This-Is-A-Must-Join-Program-Dont-Miss-Out.aspx

Yep, it works.

path2prosperity
08-29-2012, 07:48 PM
Don't forget that the majority of the work in stopping frauds and other scams do not take place on the public pages of internet forums.

No but places like RS help some to see that places like Adland should not be inhabited by reputable people. The Bachman's, Jim Allens etc loose their credibility when members of Internet forums have the spherical objects to show them up for what they are.

scratchycat
08-29-2012, 08:36 PM
Perhaps someone more technically inclined than myself can do a better job of explaining this. When you click on an embedded link on this forum the website it links to can see that the link came from this site. AdLand has setup a redirect so that incoming page requests with RS as the referrer get redirected to that splash page. No viruses involved.

Easy work around for existing links, mouse over the link, left mouse click, copy link location. The open a new browser tab or window, paste and go. You'll go to the specific page you were looking for.

On a forward going basis, double click the reply button or hit "go advanced" on the quick reply box. Below the text box you'll see "advanced options" make sure the check box before "Automatically parse links" is unchecked (it's checked by default, uncheck it). and then paste URL links to ALP as plain text. You'll have no choice but to copy and paste urls into new tabs/browser windows but if they're plain text there will be less confusion.

This is something they are doing and nothing we are doing.


Test:
Launch Alert ~ Why This Is A Must Join Program ~ Don't Miss Out!. | View Thread | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2560411/Launch-Alert-Why-This-Is-A-Must-Join-Program-Dont-Miss-Out.aspx)

Launch Alert ~ Why This Is A Must Join Program ~ Don't Miss Out!. | View Thread | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2560411/Launch-Alert-Why-This-Is-A-Must-Join-Program-Dont-Miss-Out.aspx)

Yep, it works.

Thank you Glimdropper, that is exactly what I have been trying to say but have basically been ignored. I thank you, Judy and SBM for being understanding. I was about to give up on this.

path2prosperity
08-30-2012, 08:22 AM
Thank you Glimdropper, that is exactly what I have been trying to say but have basically been ignored. I thank you, Judy and SBM for being understanding. I was about to give up on this.

So was I.

I have been told that visitors to one of my websites Adlandpro & Bogdan Fiedur. Scam & ponzi advertising service. (http://path2prosperity.com/adlandpro.html) are redirected to Scamland's Hello page.

I do not see the redirect on my own computer. Can anybody please try clicking some links on that page to see if they see the links which I added or Adland's Hello page.

If they are referred to Adland, is there anything that my web host could do to make sure that this redirect gets removed from his servers? I can not see the redirects when I click links from my own computer but I have been told they are there if viewed through RS. This technology is getting beyond me.

Soapboxmom
08-30-2012, 09:18 AM
I clicked all the links. These four all went to the same Adlandpro Advertising page:


...lean some useful information. Make up your own mind about that. Many of the religious Scamlanders congregate on “The Mountain of Love. (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/569870/AJourneytotheMountainofLove/2537.aspx)” and receive messages from galactic spirits and other heavenly bodies including The Angel Gabriel. Other Scamland products for sale on The Mountain of Love are “Letters from Christ (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2393930/ChristsLettersOf20062007ConfirmNewWorld/1.aspx).” .....


It is impossible to determine who is victim and who is villain in this quagmire. The only things which I have left to say about Adlandpro (http://adlandpro.com/) and Adlandpro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/). It is best to avoid Adlandpro like the plague

Everything else went where I was expecting it to. Boggy has changed the original links on his end so they resolve to his ad page. There is no virus or problem for anyone else. Have a laugh. Boggy looks like a complete fool. There is nothing we can or should do about it except roll on the floor laughing!

Soapboxmom

scratchycat
08-30-2012, 09:24 AM
[QUOTE=path2prosperity;27549]So was I.

I will email you on my results.

littleroundman
08-30-2012, 10:07 AM
I have been told that visitors to one of my websites Adlandpro & Bogdan Fiedur. Scam & ponzi advertising service. (http://path2prosperity.com/adlandpro.html) are redirected to Scamland's Hello page.

Nope.

I clicked on every link on that page and every one took me exactly where the link was pointing.

The only variation was: Zeek Rewards (http://tnlady43.zeekrewards.com/) now points to the "Zeek Rewards is currently unavailable. More information will be available shortly on this website" which all Zeek affiliate pages now show.

Other than that, everything is as it should be.

Lil Ol' Radical Me
08-30-2012, 10:29 AM
Nice to know that Real Scam's postings are upsetting Fiedur and that he is terrified of his followers reading them. In the consumer activist business, it seems that you dont know if you are being effective until they start blocking, banning, redirecting or attacking you. But once they do, you know you are doing something right. lol Just ask Patrick Pretty or K. Chang.

path2prosperity
08-30-2012, 01:20 PM
I clicked all the links. These four all went to the same Adlandpro Advertising page:


Everything else went where I was expecting it to. Boggy has changed the original links on his end so they resolve to his ad page. There is no virus or problem for anyone else. Have a laugh. Boggy looks like a complete fool. There is nothing we can or should do about it except roll on the floor laughing!

Soapboxmom

Thanks for that info SBM. BoggyBoy is obviously adding and removing the redirects to suit his whim. You have mentioned seeing four redirected pages, LRM saw none and I have been sent evidence to show that he changes the redirects on my web site pretty frequently.

That certainly ties in with his behaviour when he blocked my IP. I reported the fact that he had banned me from Scamland and blocked the IP on PatrickPretty's blog and Patrick replied to say that being banned from Adland was a badge of honour. Boggy immediately unblocked my IP. He blocked me once or twice more then unblocked me. His strategy of confusing me worked in 2010 but not now. Boggy and and his minions can play silly B's to try and cause controvosy among his critics, if he likes. WE KNOW YOU GAME BOGGYBOY.

path2prosperity
08-30-2012, 01:36 PM
Nice to know that Real Scam's postings are upsetting Fiedur and that he is terrified of his followers reading them. In the consumer activist business, it seems that you dont know if you are being effective until they start blocking, banning, redirecting or attacking you. But once they do, you know you are doing something right. lol Just ask Patrick Pretty or K. Chang.

You are right LORM. It is sad that Boggy was below the radar for a long time and there are not many ex-Adlanders who have become scam busters. You, scratchy and I have speculated as to who were victims and who were serial scam promoters when we were Adlandpro members. The three of us agree about a few like Kathleen Van Beenkon, Jim Allen and Maurice Bernier. They are, in our concensus of opinion scam promoters who know exactly what they are doing.

However Boggy Boy tried to bring legal action against me and SBM for comments made about two of his associates, Jill Bachman and Maurice Bernier. I remain convinced that those two are his biggest cohorts. There are ex Adlanders who are really convinced that Jill Bachman was a victim. If you do not wish to comment on Jill, that is fine by me but I consider her to be one of the biggest serial scam promoters in the Adlandpro sewer and I will continue to state that opinion. I am just delighted that other members of RS are coming round to that opinion.

The opinion that Jill Bachman has been framed and was not a Andy Bowdoin shill who made big bucks from ASD prevails. There is plenty of evidence now that Jill and Carol Salisbury were among his biggest cheer leaders and those facts will very probably be made more public in the not so distant future.

Lil Ol' Radical Me
08-30-2012, 01:54 PM
You are right LORM. It is sad that Boggy was below the radar for a long time and there are not many ex-Adlanders who have become scam busters. You, scratchy and I have speculated as to who were victims and who were serial scam promoters when we were Adlandpro members. The three of us agree about a few like Kathleen Van Beenkon, Jim Allen and Maurice Bernier. They are, in our concensus of opinion scam promoters who know exactly what they are doing.

However Boggy Boy tried to bring legal action against me and SBM for comments made about two of his associates, Jill Bachman and Maurice Bernier. There are ex Adlanders who are really convinced that Jill Bachman was a victim. If you do not wish to comment on Jill, that is fine by me but I consider her to be one of the biggest serial scam promoters in the Adlandpro sewer and I will continue to state that opinion. I am just delighted that other members of RS are coming round to that opinion.

Having been out of Adland since 2008, I have to confess that I am no longer up to date on who is who there, apart from one or two older members. I am in complete agreement that the majority of the stuff promoted there is illegal, or at best commercially immoral. I have also no doubt that this goes on with the active complicity of it's owner Bogdan Fiedur. I am not sure who the Core Shills (K Chang's blog A MLM Skeptic: How to stop (or at least slow down) online Ponzi schemes (http://amlmskeptic.blogspot.com.es/2012/08/how-to-stop-or-at-least-slow-down.html)) are and who are the "Judas Goats" and therefore the "believers" . What I do suspect is that, behind all the noise, are names less known who are in fact the instigators. (see Patrick Pretty's many comments on Steroidal Puppeteers)

If you wish me to comment on Jill Bachman, fine. She has promoted a series of schemes which are either illegal or suspect - 12Daily Pro, ASD, The Amega Wand and some weird MLMs though I have no idea what she promotes these days., She runs a thread called the Mountain of Love, which has gone a long way since it's beginning with theories tied in with Native Indian philosophy and which is now full of bizarre conspiracy theories and quasi religious philosophies which I find completely ridiculous and is full of nut job ponderings. I have no idea whether she believes in what is written there. I have also no idea whether she comprehends the illegality of some of the schemes she supports, though I don't see that someone can read the entire documentation on the ASD case and still believe that ASD or anything similar is or could possibly be legal. I think the possiblity of someone being an innocent believer after so many attempts to earn online in illegal or dubious schemes is improbable, unless their intelligence is limited. Beyond that, I have no concrete proof of anything that I can verify and therefore post on an internet forum. If I have verified proof, then that will be a different matter.

Happy now?

scratchycat
08-30-2012, 01:58 PM
You are right LORM. It is sad that Boggy was below the radar for a long time and there are not many ex-Adlanders who have become scam busters. You, scratchy and I have speculated as to who were victims and who were serial scam promoters when we were Adlandpro members. The three of us agree about a few like Kathleen Van Beenkon, Jim Allen and Maurice Bernier. They are, in our concensus of opinion scam promoters who know exactly what they are doing.

However Boggy Boy tried to bring legal action against me and SBM for comments made about two of his associates, Jill Bachman and Maurice Bernier. I remain convinced that those two are his biggest cohorts. There are ex Adlanders who are really convinced that Jill Bachman was a victim. If you do not wish to comment on Jill, that is fine by me but I consider her to be one of the biggest serial scam promoters in the Adlandpro sewer and I will continue to state that opinion. I am just delighted that other members of RS are coming round to that opinion.

Just read from her own words and make your own decision:

Hi Georgios,
Well, I must be here to upset the apple cart!LOL
ASD has been one of the best companies I have ever seen on the Internet, and I have been a member since 2006.Aside from a monumental software delay in early 2007, ASD has paid everytime on time without fail.
I have watched people who have never been successful at any Internet business absolutely excel in this business.And what is so ironical is the business model........if you don't show up for work, you don't get paid!I absolutely LOVE it....it not only helps people pay their bills, but it also teaches them responsibility.
What I think you may find quite interesting is that our wonderful government just decided it was time to freeze some funds -about 53 million worth!Now...there is no money and people are not being paid and it becomes a scam?????
What is even more interesting is this.........the official document states that the confiscation of real property and bank accounts falls under the catagory of MARITIME and ADMIRALTY LAW.
Yes, there are still people in America who think our constitution still exists and the government is above stealing money.What a sad state of affairs.LOL
So, there you have it!ASD is a gem!I invite everyone to say prayers for it's return.
Cheers,Jill
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Hi Christina, My name is Jill Bachman from Chico, CA. I have several businesses, but at this time the most highly lucrative opportunity is The Country Club*Biz at successtracks.ws (http://successtracks.ws). This is a solid, long term business with a hyper-growth product with sponsors and clients representing Who's Who in America. It is for the passive or active marketer, and everyone can earn money even if they are strictly a passive marketer. Imagine earning 5% of the monthly recurring sales valume each and every month. This is a deam come true for All! Thank you so much for the opportunity to share in this forum. You have done a wonderful service, and I thank you. Your friend, Jill

I have the links but you will find this in adlandpro.com

path2prosperity
08-30-2012, 02:04 PM
I am going to keep a very close eye on redirects on RS and my web site that are applied and removed from Scamland pages if they concern the activities of Jill Bachman and Mary Evelyn Simpson. It seems that Mary Evelyn is the only other Scamlandpro member whose reputation BoggyBoy wishes to preserve. She may have climbed up the Scamland pecking order and be as high in the ranks as Bachman or Bernier.

Please can other members report changes in the BoggyBoy redirect kids game.

scratchycat
08-30-2012, 02:12 PM
GlimDropper stated it best and until someone else comes along with a better alternative, I refuse to give any more referrals to Scamland's Hello page.

This has already been picked up by WLD in the forums, so all our discussion is being spread. I don't care except for the fact of some disagreements that do not reflect favorably to RS.

path2prosperity
08-30-2012, 02:37 PM
GlimDropper stated it best and until someone else comes along with a better alternative, I refuse to give any more referrals to Scamland's Hello page.

This has already been picked up by WLD in the forums, so all our discussion is being spread. I don't care except for the fact of some disagreements that do not reflect favorably to RS.

Festa has unearthed some dirt that could be used as circumstantial evidence to destroy one of our member's reputation. Let him blow his top and reveal the document from which he got that information as there are copies of the same document in safe hands now and quotes from it can be read in context.

path2prosperity
08-30-2012, 02:48 PM
If you wish me to comment on Jill Bachman, fine. She has promoted a series of schemes which are either illegal or suspect - 12Daily Pro, ASD, The Amega Wand and some weird MLMs though I have no idea what she promotes these days., She runs a thread called the Mountain of Love, which has gone a long way since it's beginning with theories tied in with Native Indian philosophy and which is now full of bizarre conspiracy theories and quasi religious philosophies which I find completely ridiculous and is full of nut job ponderings. I have no idea whether she believes in what is written there. I have also no idea whether she comprehends the illegality of some of the schemes she supports, though I don't see that someone can read the entire documentation on the ASD case and still believe that ASD or anything similar is or could possibly be legal. I think the possiblity of someone being an innocent believer after so many attempts to earn online in illegal or dubious schemes is improbable, unless their intelligence is limited. Beyond that, I have no concrete proof of anything that I can verify and therefore post on an internet forum. If I have verified proof, then that will be a different matter.

Happy now?

I have already made up my mind that the Bachman woman is a serial scam promoter so your endorsement of my opinion on a RS thread is immaterial. You were really well respected in Adlandpro and what you have to say about Bachman could help those who are still in Adlandpro and not sure to decide whether Bachman is to be believed. That is after all the purpose of this forum.

We were good mates so let us not fall out about the reputation of somebody whom I deem to be a con artist.

scratchycat
08-30-2012, 04:03 PM
I have already made up my mind that the Bachman woman is a serial scam promoter so your endorsement of my opinion on a RS thread is immaterial. You were really well respected in Adlandpro and what you have to say about Bachman could help those who are still in Adlandpro and not sure to decide whether Bachman is to be believed. That is after all the purpose of this forum.

I agree with you on that. LORM was well respected in Adlandpro and exposing Jill Bachman could help a lot of Adlanders. There is proof still existing in public forums on the internet.

How about her very close relationship with Carol Salisbury and how the 2 of them conned people into believing that pile of mountain trash in the first place? Does anyone believe they actually met on Adland by accident? I don't anymore, IMO they might even be related. Now those followers think she is some kind of goddess and hang on every word and program she throws out. I used to feel sorry for some of them but they have been informed and I no longer carry that sympathy, it is more a case of stupidity on their parts.