Scamlandpro - Your One-Stop Site for all Scams!

[path2prosperity]

Contrary to a certain infamous Canadian wannabe scambuster/extortioner's claim, the Canadian authorities would be VERY happy to shut down a Canadian company that is operating illegally. Our authorities and the BBB are NOT a bunch of scammers.

Is this an attempt to discredit Dave Thornton? What evidence can you produce to show that Dave Thornton is an extortioner? If you have any I suggest that you open a separate thread here rather than make snide remarks about a respected RS member in this thread.

[scratchycat]

Ok... then who put me in the group, right before it fell apart? Someone had the means to do that. Who all had admin for that group? I did not ask to get put in there, but somebody put me in. I am hearing about this happening a lot, lately. Mattias had 269 people suddenly show up in his blog group on FB overnight.

It is possible that I did add you as I added a couple of other people. Anyone in the group was able to add people (as far as I know). I was an administrator at one time but returned only as a member. What difference does it make who added you anyway? I simply do not understand.

[scratchycat]

Judy, this is quite wearying. Perhaps you have already done it, but I have not seen it. Where is the evidence to support what you are saying about ALP? I know there's a lot of junk on there - there has been for years. But almost all of that makes no money for the owner, because the people who get into that stuff are mainly freeloaders who will complain bitterly when the free things provided for them don't work. Trust me; I had several community sites before I got sick. Free members are a horrible pain in the posterior, and THEY are the ones whose junk you could spend 24/7 deleting.

But you continue to make the erroneous claim that Adlandpro promotes these things. Adlandpro is a classified ad/social media/advertising platform. People promote their stuff there. Adlandpro is simply the platform.

Regarding the porn; where is the evidence? You repeatedly make this claim, yet you provide no evidence. A couple of screen shots of questionable ads is not proof that porn is endorsed or even allowed on Adlandpro. Someone advertising adult toys, while not someone I would want advertising on my website, is not a porn merchant. Some of the screen shots you have provided are not even on ALP. Take another look at the address bar in your own screen shots. The links may have been advertised on ALP, but the site you show in your screen shot is an entirely different site. That is not proof. If you are going to bust someone, you need to produce evidence that is directly showing their involvement.

The shot you showed from a Polish ALP site, I checked out. It is a racy, but not pornographic photo, with no nudity, that is advertising a Polish personals site.

I agree that scams, scammers and illegal porn merchants need to be brought down. I would personally like to see all porn and gambling sites permanently removed from the internet, but unfortunately, they are legal in many jurisdictions.

But if you are going to bring down illegal activity, simply posting accusations on forums is not how it's done. I have gone through forum after forum over the years checking out a company's record, only to discover that I have been wasting my time. Forums are open to every wild accusation that you can imagine for people with an axe to grind. But when the accusations begin to be checked, there is no evidence to support them.

Find REAL evidence. Then give it to the appropriate authorities. Contrary to a certain infamous Canadian wannabe scambuster/extortioner's claim, the Canadian authorities would be VERY happy to shut down a Canadian company that is operating illegally. Our authorities and the BBB are NOT a bunch of scammers.


The items in red are points that I would like to elaborate on.

The evidence has been documented by several members of this community. Some has been posted here in several different threads but most of it has been reported without being posted here. I will try to find the threads where this has been discussed at length and most of those are related to the time when Bogdan Fiedur decided to threaten RealScam and some members with legal action. It could fill a book of all the comments, fighting school room "fake" lawyers and all the other actions brought to light by many of RS members. The evidence is in all the programs, pyramids and Ponzi schemes, total scams trying to make money from downlines. Look at any members signature to see what program they are promoting. How much more evidence do you need? Well, for my part, it has been presented here in RealScam and in documented evidence that I personally have kept records on. For any further explanation try remembering AdSurfDaily and how many members of Adland promoted it.

Since Adland is a platform, how about removing the platform to prevent more people being taken in by their programs?

I do believe a lot of members of RS can point out to you many of the schemes they have helped to bring down.

If you are referring to my friend Dave Thornton, then you really are on the wrong foot. I would turn this one around and have you present your evidence on that one.

Oh and mention of the BBB, for a fee anyone can get an A+ until enough people report them.

Sorry I don't have more time for this today. I could have used Poyol in setting up some computers!! Long process but I am getting there! For those who have my personal email addy, it might take longer...

[path2prosperity]

[COLOR="#800080"]Since Adland is a platform, how about removing the platform to prevent more people being taken in by their programs?



Exactly. Those are my sentiments to a tee.

[path2prosperity]

It is possible that I did add you as I added a couple of other people. Anyone in the group was able to add people (as far as I know). I was an administrator at one time but returned only as a member. What difference does it make who added you anyway? I simply do not understand.

The issue is who added Bogdan Fiedur?

Bogdan Fiedur's mugshot on a scam breaking community is enough to kill it dead and that is exactly what happened.

[path2prosperity]

Klagoosh claims to be a scam buster. Why has he decided to stand for Scamlandpro's Scammer of The Week Award?

It will be interesting to see what Scamlanders think of this person who has one foot in Scammer camps and and another in the Scambusting camps.

To see the evidence type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2583288/Its-Time-TO-Vote-for-the-350TH-POTW-Award-Winner.aspx?flag=5

[path2prosperity]

Mary Evelyn Simpson, Scamland's Person of The Year aka Scammer of The Year had dropped her Zeek promotions and SURPRISE SURPRISE, she has also dropped the promotion of the unlicenced slimming products from MySiselPro.

We may not know what prompted Mary Evelyn to ditch the MySisalPro products but it comes as no surprise to find that she has started to promote another dubious line of slimming products Plexus Slim Accelerator. Take this woman's "helpful advice" with a shovel of salt.

Mary Evelyn's Slimming Sales Spiel (http://tnlady.myplexusopportunity.com/buy-slim-accelerator-retail).

Check the product line in the page which is pasted above and think very carefully before applying any unclicenced creams to reduce anything in your breasts as reommended by Mary Evelyn Simpson.

EXample.

Slim/Breast Cream Combo
(1) 30-Day Supply of Plexus Slim and (1) Jar of Dr. Spencer's Breast Cream.
$134.90 Quantity:

[path2prosperity]

It looks as if I was a little behind the times. Mary Evelyn has changed her signature files.

Look at the age reversal and holiday package product line which she is promoting from Sisel products. Avoid this crap like the plague.

Age Reversal Drinks (http://tnlady.mysisel.com/en/US/home.htm)

[path2prosperity]

What on earth are Scamlanders trying to suggest with their epitaph to ZigZigler? Any relation to Zeek or its progeny? Mary Evelyn Simpson and Kathleen Van Beekom seem keen to mourn the loss so it is probably scam related.

ZigZigler Epitaph presented by Mary Evelyn Simpson

type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2501135/Mary-Evelyns-Koffee-Klatch/591.aspx

Penny for your thoughts on the matter!

[klagoosh]

I invited you into this forum because I thought that you were interested in helping us bust scams. It looks as if your main interest is not in scam busting but a desire to act as Devil's Advocate for Adlandpro.

I do not need to show you the evidence as SMM has already posted pages and pages of porn from Scamland in RS threads and I found a more recent one to show your friend Dianne to show you that it is ever present.

Adlandpro Porn Example (http://www.path2prosperity.com/images/akihow.GIF).

That is not proof at all of ALP promoting porn. Grab a brain,Judy. That screen shot CLEARLY shows that your example IS NOT on Adlandpro. I am NOT playing devil's advocate for Adlandpro; I am simply trying to understand how you are coming to your preposterous conclusions. Taking screenshots of pornography from a site other than the one you are trying to bust does NOTHING to help your cause. Show me the REAL evidence that ALP is promoting REAL porn. All I have seen so far is nonsense.

Just because a member of ALP or any other site chooses to show garbage like that on their own site does not make ALP a porn site! That's a ridiculous claim! This is not scam busting. This is juvenile Nancy Drew nonsense, at best. You are lucky you are not going after a real criminal...

Regarding your claim about me playing devil's advocate: You forget that I have not been active on ALP for years. YOU contacted me, after an someone from there invited me back to say hi. YOU WERE VERY OBVIOUSLY HANGING AROUND ON ALP, OR YOU WOULD NOT HAVE NOTICED THE ONE TIME I SHOWED UP AND CONTACTED ME! So, who is has the ALP connection, Judith? YOU!! Or, in the event there really IS porn on their sometimes, when the owner doesn't catch it, perhaps it's a prurient interest in the subject that keeps you staring at it hour after hour in the hopes you will catch a glimpse of some skin... I don't know, but I must say, you are making a mockery of real scam busting.

Evidence, evidence, evidence! Produce it. You dragged me into this with charges and warnings that Adlandpro and Bogdan Fiedur were promoting pornography and scams, and you warned me that I would probably be called a scammer by people on this site if I didn't distance myself from them, and you warned me that people on Realscam would probably think my debilitating battle with this stinking disease I have was all a scam, yet you, yourself, are the ones who has made these very charges or certainly strong suggestions, on this site!

I trusted you, and you have stabbed me in the back, rather royally. Some friend you turned out to be! BTW, I checked my email box. Every single piece of mail we have recently exchanged since you first contacted me about ALP is in there, so denial is useless. You have made a lot of baseless charges with no evidence (that you have shared with me), and you have proven a very bad friend, indeed.

[klagoosh]

What on earth are Scamlanders trying to suggest with their epitaph to ZigZigler? Any relation to Zeek or its progeny? Mary Evelyn Simpson and Kathleen Van Beekom seem keen to mourn the loss so it is probably scam related.

ZigZigler Epitaph presented by Mary Evelyn Simpson

type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2501135/Mary-Evelyns-Koffee-Klatch/591.aspx

Penny for your thoughts on the matter!

Quick question... do you know who Zig Ziglar is? He is pretty famous.

[klagoosh]

Klagoosh claims to be a scam buster. Why has he decided to stand for Scamlandpro's Scammer of The Week Award?

It will be interesting to see what Scamlanders think of this person who has one foot in Scammer camps and and another in the Scambusting camps.

To see the evidence type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2583288/Its-Time-TO-Vote-for-the-350TH-POTW-Award-Winner.aspx?flag=5

Well, that is most interesting. Thank you for letting me know. I have been out all day, and had no idea. I have asked to be taken out of the vote, as I have not been active on Adlandpro for more than five years. No matter what any one here thinks of my motivation - that is up to the individual - it still would not be right for an inactive member to be in such a contest.

[klagoosh]

Klagoosh claims to be a scam buster. Why has he decided to stand for Scamlandpro's Scammer of The Week Award?

It will be interesting to see what Scamlanders think of this person who has one foot in Scammer camps and and another in the Scambusting camps.

To see the evidence type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2583288/Its-Time-TO-Vote-for-the-350TH-POTW-Award-Winner.aspx?flag=5

Short answer - longer answer already given - I have not. Thank you for spotting this.

[klagoosh]

It is possible that I did add you as I added a couple of other people. Anyone in the group was able to add people (as far as I know). I was an administrator at one time but returned only as a member. What difference does it make who added you anyway? I simply do not understand.

Ok, thanks for clearing that up. I was beginning to think I was being put into places where I would make a nice target for someone. :D

[klagoosh]

Klagoosh claims to be a scam buster. Why has he decided to stand for Scamlandpro's Scammer of The Week Award?

It will be interesting to see what Scamlanders think of this person who has one foot in Scammer camps and and another in the Scambusting camps.

To see the evidence type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2583288/Its-Time-TO-Vote-for-the-350TH-POTW-Award-Winner.aspx?flag=5

By the way.... Judith Hortin... why don't we simply stay on an English name basis, since I'm not afraid of being known by my English name. Just call me Dave Cottrell in all your posts. That way, when others here read your raving diatribes, they will be able to look me up on Google and all my associations, good and bad, smart and stupid, legitimate and scammy, over the years. Let's save the good folks of Realscam some time, shall we?

[path2prosperity]

That is not proof at all of ALP promoting porn. Grab a brain,Judy. That screen shot CLEARLY shows that your example IS NOT on Adlandpro. I am NOT playing devil's advocate for Adlandpro; I am simply trying to understand how you are coming to your preposterous conclusions. Taking screenshots of pornography from a site other than the one you are trying to bust does NOTHING to help your cause. Show me the REAL evidence that ALP is promoting REAL porn. All I have seen so far is nonsense.

I sent a coppy of the Akihow Art up to my server as I knew it would be deleted if, I produced any evidence that it was an Adlandpro member promoting it. Not only was Akihow an Adlandpro member but he or she votes in POTW. Perhaps it was Akihow who nominated you for the Scammer of the Week Award.

Adland Member Akihow (http://path2prosperity.com/images/scamlandakithow.GIF)

Akihow POTW voter (http://path2prosperity.com/images/potwakithow.GIF).

SBM has posted so much porn from Scamland in this forum that she may be ignoring your protestations with the contempt which they reserve.

Personally I hope that RS admin gives you your own thread to entertain members like Monkey brain (MMB) and Lutarian.

[path2prosperity]

By the way.... Judith Hortin... why don't we simply stay on an English name basis, since I'm not afraid of being known by my English name. Just call me Dave Cottrell in all your posts. That way, when others here read your raving diatribes, they will be able to look me up on Google and all my associations, good and bad, smart and stupid, legitimate and scammy, over the years. Let's save the good folks of Realscam some time, shall we?

I have tried Googling for the proof that you were the sole moderator of Lucky7Surf and I could not find it. However legal authoritiies have infiltrated Scamland and if you want to lie about, it will be on record. You can not claim that you were suffering from a debilitating illness in those days.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt about your role in Lucky7surf. NEVER AGAIN. It is my belief tjhat this leopard has not changed its spots. I remember the distress of one Adlander who had intoduced Lucky7Surf to more than forty members of her church and she was devastated by what you had been doing introducing scam programs in Adlandpro.

[path2prosperity]

Well, that is most interesting. Thank you for letting me know. I have been out all day, and had no idea. I have asked to be taken out of the vote, as I have not been active on Adlandpro for more than five years. No matter what any one here thinks of my motivation - that is up to the individual - it still would not be right for an inactive member to be in such a contest.

Your Scamland mates do not seem to be very supportive when you asked them to remove you from their POTW nomination forum have they? Perhaps they like your promotion of Classified AdsLand too much.

To see Dave's mugshot over there type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2583288/Its-Time-TO-Vote-for-the-350TH-POTW-Award-Winner.aspx?flag=12

[path2prosperity]

Or, in the event there really IS porn on their sometimes, when the owner doesn't catch it.



Deny the fact that there is porn on Adland as much as you like Dave but I think it highly unlikely that you will find many other members backing you up in that claim.

[okosh]

I have tried Googling for the proof that you were the sole moderator of Lucky7Surf and I could not find it. However legal authoritiies have infiltrated Scamland and if you want to lie about, it will be on record. You can not claim that you were suffering from a debilitating illness in those days.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt about your role in Lucky7surf. NEVER AGAIN.[B] It is my belief tjhat this leopard has not changed its spots. I remember the distress of one Adlander who had intoduced Lucky7Surf to more than forty members of her church and she was devastated by what you had been doing introducing scam programs in Adlandpro.

Judy just where would you or I or half the members of real scam be if everyone shared that opinion??....

[klagoosh]

I have tried Googling for the proof that you were the sole moderator of Lucky7Surf and I could not find it. However legal authoritiies have infiltrated Scamland and if you want to lie about, it will be on record. You can not claim that you were suffering from a debilitating illness in those days.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt about your role in Lucky7surf. NEVER AGAIN. It is my belief tjhat this leopard has not changed its spots. I remember the distress of one Adlander who had intoduced Lucky7Surf to more than forty members of her church and she was devastated by what you had been doing introducing scam programs in Adlandpro.

Judy, this Lucky7 thing you are raving about is something I have never even heard of. I would strongly suggest that's why you can't find anything about it. You are completely out to lunch and proving more and more that you have lost all credibility. Anybody who pays any attention to your senile ravings is a fool.

Dave Cottrell (Two t's and two l's )

[path2prosperity]

Judy, this Lucky7 thing you are raving about is something I have never even heard of. I would strongly suggest that's why you can't find anything about it. You are completely out to lunch and proving more and more that you have lost all credibility. Anybody who pays any attention to your senile ravings is a fool.

Dave Cottrell (Two t's and two l's )

That may have fallen off the radar. You may be safe denying that. Lucky7surf was the first autosurf which was launched exclusively for Adlandpro members and there are memers who will remember that one but they may not wish to come forward at this stage. Time will tell on that issue.

[scratchycat]

May I ask just where this thread is going?? It was started with the title: Scamlandpro - Your One-Stop Site for all Scams! It is true you can visit Adlandpro (Scamlandpro) anytime and find all sorts of "programs" with members exploiting them. This continued debate between members needs to be moved to another thread PLEASE admin.

It has changed the intent of this subject matter.

Dave if you want to defend your leader Bogdan Fiedur and Adlandpro, I suggest you start your own thread to do so. We have already posted enough information on this site to discredit the place, if that is not good enough for you it will not convince you by continuing this battle here.

Judy, if you want to start a thread on Lucky7surf, please do so. It was before my time and TIME is not allowing me to do any investigating on it right now. From now on I ask that we keep to the subject and all the ranting be held in the appropriate threads.

[Soapboxmom]

The personal attacks are out of line here. This thread is for the purpose of sharing information about any verifiable scams promoted on Adlandpro. Dave Cottrell was invited here and I think we should be more welcoming. This is not just a scam busting forum and one here need not take any particular side. All viewpoints are welcome. Advertising is not allowed. Open discussion is the goal.

We must be careful to stick to facts and opinion. If one is not able to find reliable documentation then there is no reason to be making accusations against anyone. Questions are of course a welcome part of any discussion.

In the interest of clarity I will point out that Adlanpro was littered with porn:

http://www.realscam.com/f16/bogdan-fiedur-owner-scam-ponzi-promoting-site-adlandpro-threatening-rs-critics-again-955/index9.html#post13473

http://www.realscam.com/f16/bogdan-fiedur-owner-scam-ponzi-promoting-site-adlandpro-threatening-rs-critics-again-955/index9.html#post13499 (http://www.realscam.com/f16/bogdan-fiedur-owner-scam-ponzi-promoting-site-adlandpro-threatening-rs-critics-again-955/index9.html#post13473)

http://www.realscam.com/f16/bogdan-fiedur-owner-scam-ponzi-promoting-site-adlandpro-threatening-rs-critics-again-955/index9.html#post13500

[klagoosh]

That may have fallen off the radar. You may be safe denying that. Lucky7surf was the first autosurf which was launched exclusively for Adlandpro members and there are memers who will remember that one but they may not wish to come forward at this stage. Time will tell on that issue.

Oh, I am quite safe, Judy. As far as I know (and I have been wrong, before), such a company never even existed.

Regarding an OLD example of my own battle against scam business opportunities, here is one pulled from your own profile, which you created on 123people.com. It is one of my blog pages from 2006, before I got sick, when I was writing articles about the autosurf "industry", ponzi schemes, etc., and was often looking into things for others who asked me to, because they did not want to get hurt. I joined many, many scam outfits as a free member in those days, because often times you could not get any information on what they were "selling" or how they worked without joining them first.

If you dig deep in the recesses of your memory, you will recall, because you were on Adlandpro as a very active member in those days, that I was one of the first to speak out against the paid autosurf "industry." I don't remember which one it was, now, but it was one of the first, and I don't remember who was promoting it, nor have I looked for the forum post I wrote (it may still be there, somewhere), but I warned the person promoting it and everyone else that it was a program destined to fail.

Did I ever get jumped on for that! Holy cow; I was treated as a pariah by some people! Anyway, the program continued, people joined, more programs popped up, and more people joined. Some people I was foolish enough to highly respect for their business acumen joined some of these things, and eventually I decided to try it, as there seemed to be so much evidence that they were backed up by solid investments. If I had simply done the math, which I am very good at, I would have EASILY determined, as I did later, that they were impossible to fund without being ponzi schemes. I didn't put much in, so didn't lose much, but I do definitely regret ever promoting them, though my promoting wasn't very successful.

If anybody wants to blow the whistle on me for promoting ponzi autosurf schemes, don't bother. It's public record. Read my old blogs. I was not a good promoter, but wrong is wrong, and my real friends know I am sorry. They also know I continuously told them to due their own due diligence, to never assume I was some kind of expert, and to never play more than they could afford to.

Everybody has skeletons in his or her closet. I prefer to have mine out in the open, so I can get on with my life. Everybody makes mistakes, and everybody has to take responsibility for their own mistakes. If we think we are getting away with them, be assured, a day of reckoning is coming. No one is immune, and no one will "get away with it."

[klagoosh]

The personal attacks are out of line here. This thread is for the purpose of sharing information about any verifiable scams promoted on Adlandpro. Dave Cottrell was invited here and I think we should be more welcoming. This is not just a scam busting forum and one here need not take any particular side. All viewpoints are welcome. Advertising is not allowed. Open discussion is the goal.

We must be careful to stick to facts and opinion. If one is not able to find reliable documentation then there is no reason to be making accusations against anyone. Questions are of course a welcome part of any discussion.

In the interest of clarity I will point out that Adlanpro was littered with porn:

http://www.realscam.com/f16/bogdan-fiedur-owner-scam-ponzi-promoting-site-adlandpro-threatening-rs-critics-again-955/index9.html#post13473

http://www.realscam.com/f16/bogdan-fiedur-owner-scam-ponzi-promoting-site-adlandpro-threatening-rs-critics-again-955/index9.html#post13499 (http://www.realscam.com/f16/bogdan-fiedur-owner-scam-ponzi-promoting-site-adlandpro-threatening-rs-critics-again-955/index9.html#post13473)

http://www.realscam.com/f16/bogdan-fiedur-owner-scam-ponzi-promoting-site-adlandpro-threatening-rs-critics-again-955/index9.html#post13500




Thank you, Soapboxmom. The owner of this website picked a clear and reasonable admin in you.

Thank you for the links. That is encouraging. It shows that there was a big problem and from what I have seen in the very brief time since I was invited back to ALP, it shows that something must have been started along the lines of cleaning it up.

For the technical information of those here who might be interested, this kind of thing MUST be cleaned up (unless you own a major Canadian newspaper, in which case you can put any of this stuff in with photos). The technical part is, all ads have to be moderated.

As Judy pointed out, (thank you for the free advertising) I own Classified Ad Land. I have three classified ad platforms under that roof. One of them is the Adlandpro custom site, which is integrated into mine and gives instant world wide reach to an already existing audience, and the other two are classified ad content programs I have integrated into the site.

I am not the content police, and do not carefully check out everything that is advertised, and can't do that through my site with the ALP integrated platform. However, with the other ones, I have them set so that I have to approve every ad, much like what happens when you want to put an ad in a newspaper in the brick and mortar world.

This is the ONLY way I can keep out porn. There IS no other way. I have already previously tried keyword blocking, but that has a threefold problem.

First, the porn merchants are experts at getting around keyword blocking.

Secondly, genuine sellers of decent products inadvertently get blocked.

Thirdly, admin (that's me on my classified site) goes to sleep thinking all is protected, and someone hacks in and starts filling it with porn. The next most common problem this way is with gambling sites.

I don't believe that any site is hopeless, just as no human being is hopeless, even the passed out bum on the sidewalk. Things CAN be done, albeit sometimes against great odds. This particular thread has seen some very strong opinions and passions, but is probably quite positive in the grand scheme of things. Like a think tank, it sheds light in areas that might otherwise stay in the dark, and may prove to be, rather than an agent of destruction, and agent of change. Time will tell.

God bless,

Dave

[path2prosperity]

Oh, I am quite safe, Judy. As far as I know (and I have been wrong, before), such a company never even existed.

Regarding an OLD example of my own battle against scam business opportunities, here is one pulled from your own profile, which you created on 123people.com. It is one of my blog pages from 2006, before I got sick, when I was writing articles about the autosurf "industry", ponzi schemes, etc., and was often looking into things for others who asked me to, because they did not want to get hurt. I joined many, many scam outfits as a free member in those days, because often times you could not get any information on what they were "selling" or how they worked without joining them first.

If you dig deep in the recesses of your memory, you will recall, because you were on Adlandpro as a very active member in those days, that I was one of the first to speak out against the paid autosurf "industry." I don't remember which one it was, now, but it was one of the first, and I don't remember who was promoting it, nor have I looked for the forum post I wrote (it may still be there, somewhere), but I warned the person promoting it and everyone else that it was a program destined to fail.

Did I ever get jumped on for that! Holy cow; I was treated as a pariah by some people! Anyway, the program continued, people joined, more programs popped up, and more people joined. Some people I was foolish enough to highly respect for their business acumen joined some of these things, and eventually I decided to try it, as there seemed to be so much evidence that they were backed up by solid investments. If I had simply done the math, which I am very good at, I would have EASILY determined, as I did later, that they were impossible to fund without being ponzi schemes. I didn't put much in, so didn't lose much, but I do definitely regret ever promoting them, though my promoting wasn't very successful.

If anybody wants to blow the whistle on me for promoting ponzi autosurf schemes, don't bother. It's public record. Read my old blogs. I was not a good promoter, but wrong is wrong, and my real friends know I am sorry. They also know I continuously told them to due their own due diligence, to never assume I was some kind of expert, and to never play more than they could afford to.

Everybody has skeletons in his or her closet. I prefer to have mine out in the open, so I can get on with my life. Everybody makes mistakes, and everybody has to take responsibility for their own mistakes. If we think we are getting away with them, be assured, a day of reckoning is coming. No one is immune, and no one will "get away with it."

Autosurfs were a craze in he 2003-2005 era and people joined them in their hoards. The first was Studio Traffic. Next were 12DailyPro, Dad'N"Dave's, E-Surfpro and a few others. The first three that caused real financial disaster because they were presented as a business rather than money games were all owned owned by Bob Krimm. Next came VLane and Phoenix Surf. A lot of us promoted them as games but drew the line when they were offered as a sustainable business opportunity. Lucky7surf was promoted as being exclusive to Adlandpro. Adlandpro introduced Autosurf Authority to the surfing world as a genuine self regulating industry authority and the first one that was heralded as being cleared by Autosurf Authority was Pheonix Surf.

2006 brought a new chapter to the "autosurf industry" when recidivist criminals like Trevor Cook, Nick Smirnow and Andy Bowdoin ran their outfits. I know very little about autosurfs from this eara but I do have very clear memories of the 2003-2005 autosurf era.

[klagoosh]

Autosurfs were a craze in he 2003-2005 era and people joined them in their hoards. The first was Studio Traffic. Next were 12DailyPro, Dad'N"Dave's, E-Surfpro and a few others. The first three that caused real financial disaster because they were presented as a business rather than money games were all owned owned by Bob Krimm. Next came VLane and Phoenix Surf. A lot of us promoted them as games but drew the line when they were offered as a sustainable business opportunity. Lucky7surf was promoted as being exclusive to Adlandpro. Adlandpro introduced Autosurf Authority to the surfing world as a genuine self regulating industry authority and the first one that was heralded as being cleared by Autosurf Authority was Pheonix Surf.

2006 brought a new chapter to the "autosurf industry" when recidivist criminals like Trevor Cook, Nick Smirnow and Andy Bowdoin ran their outfits. I know very little about autosurfs from this eara but I do have very clear memories of the 2003-2005 autosurf era.

I remember hearing about Studio Traffic. 12DailyPro and Dad'N'Daves I remember. Don't remember E-Surfpro, VLane, Pheonix Surf or Lucky7surf. I do remember a whole lot of excitement on ALP about it; a LOT of people got involved, and some were very heavily involved with some big numbers being thrown around.

In defense of many who were involved, I was reminded as I went through some of my old blogs of a company that once had a very good reputation, called Stormpay (same owners as Tymglobal). At one time, they seemed to be a good, viable alternative to Paypal, and lots of people used them to sell goods. However, during the height of the autosurf "industry," they proved to be some of the biggest crooks every. (If it is ok to post here, you can find the little I wrote about them in the archives on WestCoastOpinion.com)

Because an apparently reputable company like Stormpay was the payment processor for the paid autosurfs, people thought they were ok. Paypal COULD have done a lot more to prevent the massive mess that was caused as everything began to finally come crashing down, if they has made a much louder statement about why they would not let these companies use their services. If I remember correctly, they made a rather quiet, but truthful, statement about not accepting companies that did not have a viable business plan.

For everyone's information (I guess it could be another thread), this kind of con is NOT over. It is just showing up by a different name. I just warned a friend about one again, the other day, that promises an unrealistic return that cannot be supported without new members investing constantly. The PONZI is alive and well.

[path2prosperity]

For everyone's information (I guess it could be another thread), this kind of con is NOT over. It is just showing up by a different name. I just warned a friend about one again, the other day, that promises an unrealistic return that cannot be supported without new members investing constantly. The PONZI is alive and well.

One of the reasons that the ponzi is alive and well because of ponzi promoting forums like TalkGold MMG, MyCashForums and Adlandpro. I find it hard to see how anybody could claim to stand against the ponzi culture and support the worst of all the ponzi promoting forums. TG and MMG have some moderation on their boards but at Adlandpro absolutely anything passes muster.

[klagoosh]

One of the reasons that the ponzi is alive and well because of ponzi promoting forums like TalkGold MMG, MyCashForums and Adlandpro. I find it hard to see how anybody could claim to stand against the ponzi culture and support the worst of all the ponzi promoting forums. TG and MMG have some moderation on their boards but at Adlandpro absolutely anything passes muster.

Many times in history, companies have changed direction for good or for bad. What is needed to change direction is vision. When that vision is good, the company becomes a better company. When it is bad, it goes downhill. But though I understand where you are coming from, I must disagree when you call a forum provider a promoter of anything. It is those who are on the forums that do the promoting. Where I agree strongly with you is in the need for forums to be moderated. That is a must. However, there are limits.

If a moderator spent all his or her time chasing down and verifying information on the threads, the forum would shut down. I see that on the anti-scam sites, too. There are limits. Ask Soapboxmom. I'm sure that she would agree than if she chased down everything, she would never get any sleep. Therefore, it becomes a judgement call as to what you cut off, who you kick out, and what you let go through. I have seen things here and on several other anti-scam sites where someone is baiting someone else for a period of time and appears to be getting away with it. It may go on for several days, and then you don't see that person any more, or a moderator issues a warning, or some posts disappear. It is a big job.

That said, I believe there must be a level of moderation on all social sites. There is a large body that disagrees with me, believing that moderation of any kind is censorship and therefore the worst kind of evil. I believe that a degree of censorship is necessary for the good of the community, and this can certainly be seen on social sites where there are problems.

One thing that all who want to see scams shut down can do is to repeatedly tell people to stop being lazy and to do proper due diligence. Forums are a very bad place to get information. They are often a fantastic place to get ideas, and can be a place to find out how happy people are with something, but then the truth must be chased down where the facts are, not simply the opinions.

The links that have been provided here are very helpful. They are something that can be looked into.

[okosh]

That may have fallen off the radar. You may be safe denying that. Lucky7surf was the first autosurf which was launched exclusively for Adlandpro members and there are memers who will remember that one but they may not wish to come forward at this stage. Time will tell on that issue.

Bullshit.....It was in all the forums and it's admin Lisa Taylor ran 3-4 other surfs around the same time....
lucky7surf (http://www.moneymakergroup.com/lucky7surf-t16175.html&hl=lucky7surf)

As for the rest of what you doing here let me see if I got this right.....

You bashing klagoosh for being in an autosurf seven and a half years ago???....Lucky7surf was in 2005!!!!!

Post some proof that klagoosh is scamming in 2012.....
If you can't then you need to shut up and leave him alone....

Sorry if you think I'm being hard on you mate but what you doing here in my opinion is wrong and you need to stop....

[okosh]

Autosurfs were a craze in he 2003-2005 era and people joined them in their hoards. The first was Studio Traffic. Next were 12DailyPro, Dad'N"Dave's, E-Surfpro and a few others.

It was called eprofitsurf and it was where you and I first met.....Admin was Dan lund and Colette Larson.....

[path2prosperity]

Bullshit.....It was in all the forums and it's admin Lisa Taylor ran 3-4 other surfs around the same time....
lucky7surf (http://www.moneymakergroup.com/lucky7surf-t16175.html&hl=lucky7surf)

As for the rest of what you doing here let me see if I got this right.....

You bashing klagoosh for being in an autosurf seven and a half years ago???....Lucky7surf was in 2005!!!!!

Post some proof that klagoosh is scamming in 2012.....
If you can't then you need to shut up and leave him alone....

Sorry if you think I'm being hard on you mate but what you doing here in my opinion is wrong and you need to stop....


Well I am glad we have proof that Lucky7surf did exist and that we know the name of the owner. I did not bash Klagoosh for being a member. I bashed him in the belief that he was the scummy and sole moderator. That moderator was an active and very popular Adlandpro member who behaved very badly by claiming that there was nothing thay he could do to get it shut down and allowing it to carry on ripping the members off. It is vaguely possible that I muddled him up with another Adlandpro member whose name begins with a D and is very active in their forum now. If anybody can produce the name of that moderator, the issue will be settled and I will appologise if I am wrong.

I stand by my guns that advertising a ponzi and porn promoting advertising site like Adlandpro and trying to make money from their gold advertising program which is completely valueless is not the behavious which we expect from scam busters. I do not believe that I have called him a scammer in 2012. I have pointed out that he tries to earn from a disreputable ponzi and porn promoting advertising site.

[path2prosperity]

It was called eprofitsurf and it was where you and I first met.....Admin was Dan lund and Colette Larson.....

I did not know that you tried that one "okosh" I put $40 into their Autosurf Money processor to join E-Surfpro and they did change the name when they develpoped the Autosurf Money processor. I am not sure which was the original and which was the new name but they closed the new program down before I had used the surf program to decide if I was going to play that one. They waited till "we newbie suckers" had funded Autosurf Money with the minimum of $40 before they ran.

It was advertised all over Scamlandpro as the next big thing after 12DailyPro and most of us were pretty green as to the world of ponzis in those days. Most of us saw them as harmless money games.

[path2prosperity]

[QUOTE=klagoosh;34438]Many times in history, companies have changed direction for good or for bad. QUOTE]

When the Person who is likely to win Scamland's POTW is a person who up till recently promoted F5Mmillionairesclub and has dropped it in favour of ProfitClicking and the person who runs the POTW competition was a MPB promoter and a strong supporter of Gary Colhuln for years, I would say that Adlandpro has changed it's direction for the worse rather than the better.

[okosh]

I did not know that you tried that one "okosh" I put $40 into their Autosurf Money processor to join E-Surfpro and they did change the name when they develpoped the Autosurf Money processor. I am not sure which was the original and which was the new name but they closed the new program down before I had used the surf program to decide if I was going to play that one. They waited till "we newbie suckers" had funded Autosurf Money with the minimum of $40 before they ran.

It was advertised all over Scamlandpro as the next big thing after 12DailyPro and most of us were pretty green as to the world of ponzis in those days. Most of us saw them as harmless money games.

More bullshit!!!!.....

It started mid 2005 and paid fast up untill the SEC shut down 12dp....In other words it was piggybacking 12dp....

Autosurf money was created right after 12dp was shut down....the story was that it would replace stormpay.....The truth was that the program was dead and this was the only way they could continue to delay paying....
Within a month they fed members the refund story.....

Maybe it's time to accept that your memory is not as good as you think, say sorry to klagoosh and call it quits??.....

[path2prosperity]

More bullshit!!!!.....

It started mid 2005 and paid fast up untill the SEC shut down 12dp....In other words it was piggybacking 12dp....

Autosurf money was created right after 12dp was shut down....the story was that it would replace stormpay.....The truth was that the program was dead and this was the only way they could continue to delay paying....
Within a month they fed members the refund story.....

Maybe it's time to accept that your memory is not as good as you think, say sorry to klagoosh and call it quits??.....

I did not join the one that was run before 12DailyPro, so I can not comment on that. I did join the one where you had to use Autosurf Money after 12DailyPro was closed but I am not sure if it was e-surfpro or E-profitssurf at that stage. You said did not join Adlandpro till 2006 so you can't really comment on how it was promoted there. It was heralded as far more trustworthy than any other as the owner and moderator were Adlandpro members.

[scratchycat]

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[path2prosperity]

And what do we know about traffic exchanges??

Anybody can surf Adlandpro traffic exchange and read the crap which they promote, even the people who are banned like yours truly.

Here is a link for people who are not members of Adlandpro traffic exchange

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[scratchycat]

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Oh Yeah, he is a Star all right!! Scammer of the Week getting better and better!!! Want to find someone promoting scam just look to them and you find it in all the signatures (oh a few are trying...).

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[klagoosh]

I have an announcement to make that is pertinent to this thread.

As I am sure is very clear in my posts here (I hope it is clear), I believe there is always hope for people and businesses until they are dead. Perhaps that is a family trait: the MacLennan motto (my mother's side) is "While There's Breath, There's Hope."

I was recently informed by a friend here on RS that a site we were both mutual members of (my friend is no longer a part of that site), was being run by a scammer and porn merchant, and was itself promoting those very things. I had not been active on that site for many years, but it is interesting to note that I had only just been invited back by another member to say "hi," when my friend from RS invited me here and shared these concerns with me.

Naturally (to those who know me, you understand the "naturally" part), I immediately began to follow up on this information, looking for the problems. What I discovered was that there have been many members whose choices of products and programs to advertise range from legitimate all the way through stupid to criminal, just like any social site I can name, while the site, itself, did not promote any illegal activity, at least in recent times, nor did the owner of the site.

I know there are those who disagree with me, and some more strongly than others, but in my opinion, illegal or questionable activity by members of a social site does not make the site nor the owner either a criminal or a scam(mer). Such activities DO, however, put a burden on the owner to do all that is possible to make the site as safe as possible for other members and visitors. Such has been the ongoing challenge even for supersite, Facebook. Even today, as I visit my Facebook page, a large photo of a viagra pill shows up prominently on the right side of the page, and oftentimes, scantily clad young women and ads for personals, which I would prefer not to have showing up on my page. However, Facebook both allows and profits from them, and in fact, Google advertises these things all the time. I would not recommend Google Adsense on a church website. The reasonable reaction to this is to make the decision whether the ads allowed on the site are offensive enough to warrant cancelling my membership, or if I can live with them. Everybody has this same choice with any social site.

Regarding Adlandpro, also familiarly called 'Scamlandpro' by folks here due to obvious major differences between these folks and those who are still members of Adlandpro, I have seen the links presented here, have followed up on them (many very disgusting and/or criminal), and have also spent considerable time on the search engines, and have come to the conclusion that there is much work to do on Adlandpro, but the business is not a scam promoting business, nor a porn promoting business. It is a business that has been abused by members who have not followed the rules. Such is the nature of this business, which is why I had to shut down my own sites when I became unable to police them.

I want everybody to know, I have not enjoyed having my own honesty and ethics called into question, but am over it, not angry, and accept that folks are entitled to their own opinions and interpretations. We are all, after all, only human. I remember when my little brother and I built our shop, back when we were partners in a boat repair business. We didn't even own the land or the building, but had a special deal that cut our costs considerably, if we built it, ourselves. We paid our employees a good, fair wage, but could barely feed ourselves, after all our expenses, yet there were people who openly accused us of being wealthy business owners who were ripping people off to become even richer. Such is life.

Today, I am putting my money where my mouth is, figuratively speaking. I have just accepted an offer to work from Adlandpro on a range of projects aimed at major improvements throughout the site. At this time, I am not yet ready for full time work, but am looking forward to the hours I can devote to this, and am looking forward to being an agent of positive changes.

Due to some of the feelings some members of this site have, I will understand and respect if the administrators no longer want me here. If I must go, I will, and will simply continue working to protect people from scams the same way I always have. I have started a couple of threads, here, and again, if I can no longer be a part of them, I would request that they do not be dropped, but continued by others here, some of whom I believe have far more experience in this kind of thing than I do. A scam is a scam is a scam. It doesn't matter where the heads up comes from.

If anybody is willing, I would appreciate any positive suggestions for things that could improve the company I am now working for. I can be reached through any of my websites.

God bless you all,

Dave

[path2prosperity]

The ownwer of Adlandpro does not employ moderators and super moderators so there is no way that the it can be properly policed. One member with good intentions can not work round the clock. The small core of members who are trying to keep Adlandpro alive are promoting ProfitClicking. One member with good intentions aided by ProfitClicking promoters will have very little influence in that community.

The place is littered with cash gifting promoters. Anybody who has read RS Blessings thread can see the case against Scamlander Jose Love. Perhaps Klagoosh can get Bogdan Fiedur to comment on why he allows Jose Love to remain in his community.

[klagoosh]

The ownwer of Adlandpro does not employ moderators and super moderators so there is no way that the it can be properly policed. One member with good intentions can not work round the clock. The small core of members who are trying to keep Adlandpro alive are promoting ProfitClicking. One member with good intentions aided by ProfitClicking promoters will have very little influence in that community.

The place is littered with cash gifting promoters. Anybody who has read RS Blessings thread can see the case against Scamlander Jose Love. Perhaps Klagoosh can get Bogdan Fiedur to comment on why he allows Jose Love to remain in his community.

Thank you for your concerns and warnings. I do appreciate them. However, I have taken on tasks in the past that no one else wanted to take on, and am still alive, and so far the stress has not done me in. I have learned not to try to fix everything at once, but to break it down into small chunks and deal with the parts individually. Such an approach has proven very effective, and is kind of like stacking firewood. You can't possibly stack every piece at once, but over time, all those small and seemingly insignificant pieces become the whole pile.

Again, I am open to any positive suggestions or ideas for any areas of the site that need work.

God bless,

Dave

[littleroundman]

I will understand and respect if the administrators no longer want me here.

Why on earth would we not want you here ???

[scratchycat]

Today, I am putting my money where my mouth is, figuratively speaking. I have just accepted an offer to work from Adlandpro on a range of projects aimed at major improvements throughout the site. At this time, I am not yet ready for full time work, but am looking forward to the hours I can devote to this, and am looking forward to being an agent of positive changes.

Bless you Dave. I tried this for a number of years. If you want to work for Bogdan Fiedur that is your choice. I was very fond of Bogdan and a supporter of Adlandpro for many years. If you feel this is something you must do, then by all means DO IT! How you can make a website such as Adlandpro a "clean and worthy site" is beyond me. Follow the money trail. Where does it get the money to operate? Where does the money come from??? If that is what you choose to support then go for it.

[scratchycat]

Why on earth would we not want you here ???

No problem with Dave being here but are we going to support the scam promoted in Adlandpro (Scamlandpro)??

[littleroundman]

No problem with Dave being here but are we going to support the scam promoted in Adlandpro (Scamlandpro)??

That's two distinctly separate issues.

[scratchycat]

Thank you for your concerns and warnings. I do appreciate them. However, I have taken on tasks in the past that no one else wanted to take on, and am still alive, and so far the stress has not done me in. I have learned not to try to fix everything at once, but to break it down into small chunks and deal with the parts individually. Such an approach has proven very effective, and is kind of like stacking firewood. You can't possibly stack every piece at once, but over time, all those small and seemingly insignificant pieces become the whole pile.

Again, I am open to any positive suggestions or ideas for any areas of the site that need work.

God bless,

Dave

Dear Friend, you have no idea what has taken place. I am sure you have heard from many sides and all your "friends". Well, I took that task on also and worked very hard to bring members back to Adland, I promoted it, sent out letters monthly because I had a PAID account. Some members did not like me for several reasons and I was a victim of their harassment for many years. There are still threads with personal defamation. WHY?? Because I spoke my opinions and they objected and Bogdan Fiedur let them control him.

You can support this website if you want. I do not. There are many reasons why not. I have seen from this side of many members returning because of the wave happening in POTW. Look at that forum and decide for yourself. Almost all of them are promoting some kind of scam. If that is what you want to promote, then so be it. I am happy to be away from the place even if they can't seem to break with me. If you want to know of the threads they hold as trophies with insults against me, I can find them for you.

I do not support Adlandpro anymore and I thank God that He delivered me from that place.

[klagoosh]

No problem with Dave being here but are we going to support the scam promoted in Adlandpro (Scamlandpro)??

Thank you. I hope that you will continue working hard to expose any and all scams you come across, no matter where you find them. It is the scammers that ruin a social site, and a lot of lives in the process. Nail 'em to the wall!!

[klagoosh]

Thank you for the heads up, scratchy. I will be looking for the very things you are speaking of, and any I find will be targeted for removal.

[path2prosperity]

I see that "klagoosh" has been introduced to Adlandpro community as "Affiliate Manager."

I quote Bogdan Fiedur on page 3485 on The Mountain of Love thread. Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/569870/A-Journey-to-the-Mountain-of-Love/3485.aspx

"Re: A Journey to the Mountain of Love
12/4/2012 3:39:46 AM
I would like to announce that David Cottrell long time member of Adlandpro and my good friend agreed to take position of Affiliate Manager. I would like to welcome Dave as a member of our team and I'm looking forward to long time of working together and to good things coming out of this relationship. Welcome David and I'm excited and inspired to be able to work with you.

Bogdan Fiedur "

I would like to know if RS members can see a copy of the duties and responsibilites associated with this position that you agreed with Bogdan Fiedur.

Please tell us if you receive any remuneration other than commissions from the promotion of his gold membership program for the new appointment.

[scratchycat]

Thank you for the heads up, scratchy. I will be looking for the very things you are speaking of, and any I find will be targeted for removal.

Well, I will see if I can help you out with that. While I was still in Adlandpro and starting a Scam thread I found some things in Adland that looked suspicious to me so after I joined RS, I started a thread here.

http://www.realscam.com/f9/how-legit-ez-wealth-solution-kathleen-vanbeekom-promoter-533/
This was the response in Adland:

If We SEE SOMETHING, We're Going To SAY SOMETHING | View Thread | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2483300/If-We-SEE-SOMETHING-Were-Going-To-SAY-SOMETHING.aspx?flag=146)

Cyber-bullying News? SG Blowhard is a CYBERBULLY! | View Thread | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2506300/Cyberbullying-News-SG-Blowhard-is-a-CYBERBULLY.aspx?flag=17)

The Truth The Whole Truth And Nothing But The Truth | View Thread | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/1158163/The-Truth-The-Whole-Truth-And-Nothing-But-The-Truth.aspx?flag=32)

The Hypocrite In Chief Is At It Again | View Thread | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2468646/The-Hypocrite-In-Chief-Is-At-It-Again.aspx?flag=86)

Those are some of the forums in Adland still held as trophies against me. I have probably missed a few.

I have recently been accused of "not being able to break with Adland". My answer was "Adland does not seem able to break with me." Several months ago when this bullying started up again I added a section to my blog about Cyber Crime and Bullying. I had copied and pasted from those forums and gave me answers and reactions. It was a way to cope with again having my name slandered in public. It helped me to be able to stand up to them. It was a constant battle with this in Adland when I dared cross Peter Fogel and Jim Allen (about 2007) when they were running the POTW and other forums. They were ruthless. After that time, anything I did was criticized by this group of about 5 people. Bogdan stepped in at times but mainly he would always say it was my fault. That was what he told several other people also. We were told to just ignore them! (What a joke!) You cannot ignore someone posting total lies about you in a public format. When I finally saw that it would never stop as long as I remained a member, I cleaned up everything I could find that I had started - deleted it - and left a comment in one of the threads where I was being harassed again to tell them to stop and I deleted some of the messages. Before I could delete my account, Bogdan sent me a message telling me that my account was terminated. In the last month I have removed that filth from my blog and just have information about Cyber Crime and Bullying.
You have now chosen to be Mr. Good Guy in Adland, as a lot like the Goodwill Ambassador that used to around but it never lasted. John Sanchez lasted longer than anyone but that gang chewed him up every time he tried to come back and as far as I know he remains a member but I only see him in Facebook. I was asked once by Bogdan to take that role to which I adamantly refused. LaNell took it and was crushed by them. Deleted everything and left for a while. I suppose as long as you (I won't use the graphic here that says what I mean) but you get the meaning to Jim Allen, Peter Fogel and Bogdan Fiedur - you should be just fine. Of course they welcome you back with open keyboards, graphics and praise because most of them are fake and live in a fantasy world, never seeing the real meaning behind the website.

You are now a worthy member of RealScam and will be treated as such by me. It is the cyber crime and deciding between what is right and what is wrong that needs to be exposed is the important element.

[path2prosperity]

Successful advertising for "Prospect Geyser" from Scamlander Pauline Frye.

To see advertising copywriting gem written by Paula Frye.

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2584306/Ad-works-well-for-Prospect-Geyser-currently-paying-40-a-sale.aspx?flag

"Hi,

Here's one of my best pulling ads for Prospect Geyser if you need one to use. As a member, make sure to update your downline builder. I am always getting free signups to the things in there! Helps me keep traffic flowing to my websites.

Paula"

Prospect Geyser Home (http://www.prospectgeyser.com/)

[klagoosh]

I see that "klagoosh" has been introduced to Adlandpro community as "Affiliate Manager."

I quote Bogdan Fiedur on page 3485 on The Mountain of Love thread. Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/569870/A-Journey-to-the-Mountain-of-Love/3485.aspx

"Re: A Journey to the Mountain of Love
12/4/2012 3:39:46 AM
I would like to announce that David Cottrell long time member of Adlandpro and my good friend agreed to take position of Affiliate Manager. I would like to welcome Dave as a member of our team and I'm looking forward to long time of working together and to good things coming out of this relationship. Welcome David and I'm excited and inspired to be able to work with you.

Bogdan Fiedur "

I would like to know if RS members can see a copy of the duties and responsibilites associated with this position that you agreed with Bogdan Fiedur.

Please tell us if you receive any remuneration other than commissions from the promotion of his gold membership program for the new appointment.

I have entered into a gentlemen's agreement with ALP, and as such will not be disclosing details of that agreement. I am sure you understand. As I stated before, I do not desire in any way to make anyone uncomfortable here, and hope that is not the case. Remember that these forums are not hidden, so you can be confident I am not here as a spy! :)

Scams hurt everyone, and have completely destroyed a lot of good businesses. I appreciate being invited here by you.

[path2prosperity]

I have entered into a gentlemen's agreement with ALP, and as such will not be disclosing details of that agreement. I am sure you understand. As I stated before, I do not desire in any way to make anyone uncomfortable here, and hope that is not the case. Remember that these forums are not hidden, so you can be confident I am not here as a spy! :)

Scams hurt everyone, and have completely destroyed a lot of good businesses. I appreciate being invited here by you.

Bogdan has announced the fact that you are "affiliate manager." I hope that you can persuade some members promoting scams that only being affiliates for a program is rather a weak excuse, which has been used by Paula Frye. in a RS thread. Paula needs to update her list of moneymaking affiliate programs pretty quickly as one of them, (FunkyShark) has been closed down .

Paula's comments on her affiliate programs are already published in RS.

Paula Frye's comments (http://www.realscam.com/f8/does-anybody-remember-maryanne-myers-she-has-been-resurrected-1650/).

[klagoosh]

Bogdan has announced the fact that you are "affiliate manager." I hope that you can persuade some members promoting scams that only being affiliates for a program is rather a weak excuse, which has been used by Paula Frye. in a RS thread. Paula needs to update her list of moneymaking affiliate programs pretty quickly as one of them, (FunkyShark) has been closed down .

Paula's comments on her affiliate programs are already published in RS.

Paula Frye's comments (http://www.realscam.com/f8/does-anybody-remember-maryanne-myers-she-has-been-resurrected-1650/).

I will do what I can, but must admit that I am only human, do not do this full time, and cannot possibly do due diligence on all the things advertised. What I CAN do is continually warn folks about the fact that probably about 90% of the ads that come in their OWN mailbox are advertising VERY questionable programs, meaning that this is what they are going to find anywhere.

The sad fact is, scammers will continue to plot their next scheme as long as foolish, lazy people think there's a way to get rich quick. All we can do is keep picking a target and staying on track till it's brought down.

A good allegory is duck hunting. When the flock flies up, there are a LOT of choices, but unless you pick ONE, you'll never pull the trigger. AND, the big AND: If you simply shoot at the pond the ducks were swimming in, you won't get any ducks.

[path2prosperity]

Many of the Scamlanders who organise or stand in their Person of The Week competitions are promoting a ponzi which is on its last legs. Any member of Adlandpro who reads this thread should be extremely cautious before spending anything with ProfitClicking. It has been very well reviewed on RS. Do not buy into this program or recommend it to a colleague without doing any DD.

Warnings about ProfitClicking (http://www.realscam.com/f8/justbeenpaid-profitclicking-810/index31.html).

[klagoosh]

Many of the Scamlanders who organise or stand in their Person of The Week competitions are promoting a ponzi which is on its last legs. Any member of Adlandpro who reads this thread should be extremely cautious before spending anything with ProfitClicking. It has been very well reviewed on RS. Do not buy into this program or recommend it to a colleague without doing any DD.

Warnings about ProfitClicking (http://www.realscam.com/f8/justbeenpaid-profitclicking-810/index31.html).

No need to go any further than the front page on profitclicking. The hype should stop anybody who is thinking.

BTW, they are no where near on their last legs, unless the regulators are about to make their arrests. With traffic ranking like they have on Alexa, they are extremely healthy.

Site Information for profitclicking.com Get Details
Alexa Traffic Rank: 225 Traffic Rank in RU: 83
Sites Linking In: 37,400

This means that they are number 225 out of all the sites in the entire world for traffic. That's a massive amount of clout. You will need some pretty big guns or dead bang solid evidence to shut an outfit like that down. If you have the evidence, you better go into witness protection until everybody is in jail!

[littleroundman]

This means that they are number 225 out of all the sites in the entire world for traffic. That's a massive amount of clout. You will need some pretty big guns or dead bang solid evidence to shut an outfit like that down. If you have the evidence, you better go into witness protection until everybody is in jail!

There's no need for anyone to work at "bringing them down"

The writing's on the wall.

Judging by the chatter on the "usual suspect" HYIP ponzi forums, I would confidently hazard a guess that much of the Alexa traffic is, in fact, members desperate to find out what's happened to this "indefinitely sustainable" HYIP ponzi and even more desperate to reclaim at least SOME of their money.

IM(very)HO as a long time observer of the scene, the only two questions remaining about ProfitClicking are "when" and "bang or whimper"

One thing's for sure, I wouldn't be basing the size of my Christmas present list in anticipation of receiving any major payments from ProfitClicking between now and December 25.

[okosh]

There....Fixed it for you....



One thing's for sure, I wouldn't be basing the size of my Christmas present list in anticipation of receiving any major payments from ProfitClicking between now and December 25...2057.

[klagoosh]

There's no need for anyone to work at "bringing them down"

The writing's on the wall.

Judging by the chatter on the "usual suspect" HYIP ponzi forums, I would confidently hazard a guess that much of the Alexa traffic is, in fact, members desperate to find out what's happened to this "indefinitely sustainable" HYIP ponzi and even more desperate to reclaim at least SOME of their money.

IM(very)HO as a long time observer of the scene, the only two questions remaining about ProfitClicking are "when" and "bang or whimper"

One thing's for sure, I wouldn't be basing the size of my Christmas present list in anticipation of receiving any major payments from ProfitClicking between now and December 25.

Well, that is good news, then, and I hadn't thought of that angle. Makes a lot of sense. Maybe the member Christmas present will be a good smack in the side of the head with the "wiseup" board...

[Lil Ol' Radical Me]

There's no need for anyone to work at "bringing them down"

The writing's on the wall.

Judging by the chatter on the "usual suspect" HYIP ponzi forums, I would confidently hazard a guess that much of the Alexa traffic is, in fact, members desperate to find out what's happened to this "indefinitely sustainable" HYIP ponzi and even more desperate to reclaim at least SOME of their money.

IM(very)HO as a long time observer of the scene, the only two questions remaining about ProfitClicking are "when" and "bang or whimper"

One thing's for sure, I wouldn't be basing the size of my Christmas present list in anticipation of receiving any major payments from ProfitClicking between now and December 25.

Not to mention tens of thousands of clicks from rotators on Traffic Exchanges which are not "real traffic". These seriously distort the rankings.

[MartinezShopper.ws]

Hi everyone, I just want to say that people have come down hard on me at Scam.com and now here at Realscam.com as well. Personally I feel that this is not right at all. For me I have been a member of mostly free sites for over 10 years now. Yes it can be frustrating as there are truly scammers out there. I too have been burned by websites that promise me a payout only to reach the $100 payout and then NOT get paid. But I also have learned over these last 5 to 10+ years what works and what doesn't, what pays and what doesn't. Again my dozens of programs including paid-to-read emails & similar sites, network marketing, & online surveys are truly legitimate. I only advertise what actually works.

And this is the first time I've heard anything negative about Adlandpro. However I do not generally surround myself with negative people. I'm sorry for those of you who have been mistreated at ALP or any other website where you are trying to make friends and / or supplemental income. I sympathize with you. My goal is to help you succeed not to harm anyone. If you are in doubt about my main forum at Adlandpro or any of my money-making sites, please email me in a private message and I'd love the chance to get to know you better as well as alleviate any concerns you might have about me, my forums, or my programs.

Another statement made about me is that I delete posts in my forums that are negative about a certain member or program. That is not true for me personally. I don't do that. Can't recall which website(s) people were saying were scams over at Scam.com however it they mentioned Hits4Pay then that's also a mislead comment. I actually have reached the $25 payout about a dozen times now. I do have proof-of-payment. I know I have advertised earning $100's to $1,000's a month. My best months have been $1000+ and I'll be honest and say that most of my months are $100's not $1000's though. And I have Paypal payments from my programs, giftcards to Amazon.com and from Walmart and other places, plus live checks to show for all of my hard work. They say that when you help enough other people to be successful you will. I'm living proof, thanks.

P.S. My approach isn't always the best & I apologize if I ever come across as a spammer. I know I should advertise less and socialize more, building relationships first, my bad.

[scratchycat]

Hello and welcome to RealScam, MartinezShopper. Glad you found us. I came in this one to post info where you can find tons of "programs" advertised daily so I will just do that and respond later to your comment because I rarely go to Scamdotcom.

community.adlandpro.com/forums/forum/14638/List-All-Your-Biz-Sites-Here.aspx

Adlandpro Marketing #362, September 2, 2012 - Get Clients Online - By Becoming a Mind-Reader? (http://www.adlandpro.com/opt-in-list/archives/marketing/367.asp?ref=freebonanza)

At least we know why people are excited to be person of the week and at same time you are advertising Adlandpro - not much of a gift in my opinion.

[scratchycat]

Hi everyone, I just want to say that people have come down hard on me at Scam.com and now here at Realscam.com as well. Personally I feel that this is not right at all. For me I have been a member of mostly free sites for over 10 years now. Yes it can be frustrating as there are truly scammers out there. I too have been burned by websites that promise me a payout only to reach the $100 payout and then NOT get paid. But I also have learned over these last 5 to 10+ years what works and what doesn't, what pays and what doesn't. Again my dozens of programs including paid-to-read emails & similar sites, network marketing, & online surveys are truly legitimate. I only advertise what actually works.

And this is the first time I've heard anything negative about Adlandpro. However I do not generally surround myself with negative people. I'm sorry for those of you who have been mistreated at ALP or any other website where you are trying to make friends and / or supplemental income. I sympathize with you. My goal is to help you succeed not to harm anyone. If you are in doubt about my main forum at Adlandpro or any of my money-making sites, please email me in a private message and I'd love the chance to get to know you better as well as alleviate any concerns you might have about me, my forums, or my programs.

Another statement made about me is that I delete posts in my forums that are negative about a certain member or program. That is not true for me personally. I don't do that. Can't recall which website(s) people were saying were scams over at Scam.com however it they mentioned Hits4Pay then that's also a mislead comment. I actually have reached the $25 payout about a dozen times now. I do have proof-of-payment. I know I have advertised earning $100's to $1,000's a month. My best months have been $1000+ and I'll be honest and say that most of my months are $100's not $1000's though. And I have Paypal payments from my programs, giftcards to Amazon.com and from Walmart and other places, plus live checks to show for all of my hard work. They say that when you help enough other people to be successful you will. I'm living proof, thanks.

P.S. My approach isn't always the best & I apologize if I ever come across as a spammer. I know I should advertise less and socialize more, building relationships first, my bad.

From what I have seen in the last few years, you & wife are both nice people but I hope that since you have found RS you will read through some of the programs discussed here that you have been promoting. Members here can tell you that scamdotcom is far from being a scam-busting site - I leave it to those who know better than I.

We have been cyber friends for years and I tend to overlook a lot of things. I do know that somewhere in here this program has been discussed and this is from your link:
My.ws — Income for Life™ (http://website.ws/kvmlm2/my.dhtml?sponsor=martinezshopper&chk=1)

I am not here to trash you or your name but would hope that you look closer at what brings in that extra cash as all of us could use but I like to be sure that where mine comes from is legal. I sell merchandise and not promises. Please do stay around and get acquainted.

[Lil Ol' Radical Me]

Hi everyone, I just want to say that people have come down hard on me at Scam.com and now here at Realscam.com as well. Personally I feel that this is not right at all. For me I have been a member of mostly free sites for over 10 years now. Yes it can be frustrating as there are truly scammers out there. I too have been burned by websites that promise me a payout only to reach the $100 payout and then NOT get paid. But I also have learned over these last 5 to 10+ years what works and what doesn't, what pays and what doesn't. Again my dozens of programs including paid-to-read emails & similar sites, network marketing, & online surveys are truly legitimate. I only advertise what actually works.

And this is the first time I've heard anything negative about Adlandpro. However I do not generally surround myself with negative people. I'm sorry for those of you who have been mistreated at ALP or any other website where you are trying to make friends and / or supplemental income. I sympathize with you. My goal is to help you succeed not to harm anyone. If you are in doubt about my main forum at Adlandpro or any of my money-making sites, please email me in a private message and I'd love the chance to get to know you better as well as alleviate any concerns you might have about me, my forums, or my programs.

Another statement made about me is that I delete posts in my forums that are negative about a certain member or program. That is not true for me personally. I don't do that. Can't recall which website(s) people were saying were scams over at Scam.com however it they mentioned Hits4Pay then that's also a mislead comment. I actually have reached the $25 payout about a dozen times now. I do have proof-of-payment. I know I have advertised earning $100's to $1,000's a month. My best months have been $1000+ and I'll be honest and say that most of my months are $100's not $1000's though. And I have Paypal payments from my programs, giftcards to Amazon.com and from Walmart and other places, plus live checks to show for all of my hard work. They say that when you help enough other people to be successful you will. I'm living proof, thanks.

P.S. My approach isn't always the best & I apologize if I ever come across as a spammer. I know I should advertise less and socialize more, building relationships first, my bad.

I've posted this on the other thread, but perhaps it needs to be posted here in reply to your own duplicated post.


This comment is not personal as I have no idea who you are or what programs you promote, BUT whatever they may be it is essential to remember that

"I've been paid" does not and never has made a program legal. All programs pay out until they don't - ask anyone who profited from 12Daily Pro, AdSurfDaily, P2P, Zeek Rewards, and a whole host of other now defunct or closed programs that claimed to be legimate and were NOT.

[path2prosperity]

My goal is to help you succeed not to harm anyone.

Hello Stephen,

I did not run into you when I was a member of Adlandpro.

You do have a forum on which you ask fellow Adlandpro members to post business opportunities. If you delete all the scams which are posted on that forum and made it a forum for legitimate business opportunities on Adlandpro, it could be a good start for you in this community. Let's see how you get on with that project.

Stephen's forum for "Business Opps."

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/forum/23946/POST-YOUR-MONEYMAKING-OPPS-HERE.aspx

[scratchycat]

Hello Stephen,

I did not run into you when I was a member of Adlandpro.

You do have a forum on which you ask fellow Adlandpro members to post business opportunities. If you delete all the scams which are posted on that forum and made it a forum for legitimate business opportunities on Adlandpro, it could be a good start for you in this community. Let's see how you get on with that project.

Stephen's forum for "Business Opps."

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/forum/23946/POST-YOUR-MONEYMAKING-OPPS-HERE.aspx

Please let's stick with what we know here in RS. We have a new member going by MartinezShopper (may I just call you MSW?) and hope he will stay and become familiar with the site and contribute. He can then decide what he wants to do about any advertising or programs he supports. As I stated, I will not start bashing and calling by name someone who has chosen to not use their real id.

The forum is quite like some we have named in Business and Owners from Adland thread that you started P2P.

[path2prosperity]

Scamland's infamous Mose Hardy has not been chucked out by admin. How long is it since Bogdan assured his members that he would be removed?

Mose is trying to compete with Kathleen VanBeekom and Paula Frye. How will that go down in Scamland?

Scroll to the bottom of the page to see who owns this

EZ Wealth Christmas Con (http://ezwealthsolution.com/s1.php?mojo123).

[path2prosperity]

What do you have to say about copy and paste ads on all free advertising sites?

I know what I have to say about the notion but my comments will not be welcome.

They will not be deleted if you care to post a reply in RS.

Free Copy and Paste Advertising Recommended Here (http://my.opera.com/klagoosh/blog/).

[path2prosperity]

Low Risk Money Making Programs?


Recommended by Simsha Marketing = Avoid Like the Plague.

Simsha Sales spiel.

"Join Low Risk Investment Programs Recommended By Top Moneymakers & make money like crazy without referring others. Visit and Bookmark Our Web page!

http://nitrolist.com/link/smisha1

To Your Success
Smisha Marketing"

Avoid Anything Recommemnded by Simsha Marketing on Scamlandpro. To see Simsha profile.

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/forum/30591/Promote-Your-All-Business.aspx

Simsha Advice to Make Money Like Crazy

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2585284/CRAZY-Make-M0ney-Like-CRAZY.aspx?flag=1

[scratchycat]

Scamland's infamous Mose Hardy has not been chucked out by admin. How long is it since Bogdan assured his members that he would be removed?

Mose is trying to compete with Kathleen VanBeekom and Paula Frye. How will that go down in Scamland?

Scroll to the bottom of the page to see who owns this

EZ Wealth Christmas Con (http://ezwealthsolution.com/s1.php?mojo123).

Oh My, is Mose back?? Yes, he and his wife were quite a pair for spamming back when and all they do is advertise scam.

[scratchycat]

low risk money making programs?


recommended by simsha marketing = avoid like the plague.

simsha sales spiel.

"join low risk investment programs recommended by top moneymakers & make money like crazy without referring others. Visit and bookmark our web page!

http://nitrolist.com/link/smisha1

to your success
smisha marketing"

avoid anything recommemnded by simsha marketing on scamlandpro. to see simsha profile.

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/forum/30591/promote-your-all-business.aspx

simsha advice to make money like crazy

type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2585284/crazy-make-m0ney-like-crazy.aspx?flag=1

another notorious scammer!

[klagoosh]

What do you have to say about copy and paste ads on all free advertising sites?

I know what I have to say about the notion but my comments will not be welcome.

They will not be deleted if you care to post a reply in RS.

Free Copy and Paste Advertising Recommended Here (http://my.opera.com/klagoosh/blog/).

I was hoping that I had answered that well on that article you have shared here for me (thank you, btw, although that is not the title I originally used). It's ok to copy and paste ads on classified ad sites, but they should be tweaked or changed slightly from time to time as you go along. Simply pasting the identical ad into multiple classified ad sites is not something the search engines are happy about and is actually counterproductive. There used to be software being sold all the time (don't know if it still is) that was supposed to "BLAST" your ad to so many bazillion sites. Let me quote from the article, in case you might have missed it (it's right at the bottom; you have to scroll, slightly):

"Get creative as you place your ad, changing it slightly from time to time, and you are telling Google that your website is a really important place to visit! Every ad you place is a new link to your website or product, telling the search engines to raise your ranking. It’s very effective, and it’s free!"

One thing that is a TERRIBLE idea is copying someone else's ad or an ad from an affiliate site and pasting it everywhere. It really needs to be your own.

Advertising even legitimate business opportunities on free classifieds has, unfortunately, become not so effective anymore, because so many really crappy "business opportunities" are advertised that they get lost in the herd.

My suggestion (which I did not add to that article) for those who are advertising a "business opportunity" is, make money with it yourself. If you have to recruit a bunch of strangers to make a go of it, how good is it really? Unfortunately, far too many don't make money unless they continually recruit. This tells me that the products are either no good, too expensive, or fake/nonexistent.

However, for actually selling real goods, cars, one ofs, services, real estate, etc., it is pretty hard to beat the economy of classified ads.

By the way, Judy, I am pleased to know you are still following Adlandpro and the Adlandpro group "Adlanders" on Facebook, which are the only two places you could have found the link to that brand new article.

God bless,

Dave

[scratchycat]

I just visited your blog klagoosh and read enough of the article to get the idea. Since I don't care to join, I will put a comment here in response to a comment there.
Guess I need to add the link
Dave Cottrell - Adlandpro Community Classifieds (http://my.opera.com/klagoosh/blog/)

When people think about classifieds ( or at least I do) I think of items for sale, real estate and other such things and Adlandpro is a great way, especially locally to get your item/product etc. in front of people who will see it and that is important.

That is a joke to me! I doubt one local person is a member of that place and who the heck is going to see an ad there from me?? I used to advertise MERCHANDISE there not some get-rich-quick scheme and I got a few clicks but let me tell you the honest truth Adlandpro is one of the worst places for a legit business to advertise! I would advise anyone doing a legitimate business to stay far away from there. It is not because (as some have said) that I am on a vindictive path against adland but because it is the truth. All members are promoting some kind of program if it is nothing but advertising for adland and that in itself is not a good thing. You are trying to bring in people to be conned into some kind of fake way to make money, as I have said and I will say again - Scammers scamming scammers.

The person who made the above comment has chosen something I would not do but that is their total right and we have a kind of understanding and remain online friends. However, I believe once she gets rid of those rose-colored alp glasses she will come back to reality. I am not judging anyone but I am stating facts of which I have firsthand knowledge. It is a gathering of all kinds of marketing for all kinds of "programs", there might be 2 or more who actually have a legit business and as soon as they realize what that place is they will vanish.

One reason of checking in with adland is because that is the subject of this thread. I really don't even like going there anymore and as far as AIF, two of my friends started that group and at one time I was an administrator - I was the one who added Bogdan in the first place!!!!! I left the group because it was too tempting to comment in the negative on some of the comments.

So if we continue this thread, yes, we will be exposing programs from Scamland. :RpS_smile:

[scratchycat]

Here you go, an ad from the left side of Scamland and on their Hello page!


Inactive Site (http://www.mylightyear.net/cgi/404error.cgi?s=upperviewcell&f=inactive)


We're sorry. The website you were trying to reach at Inactive Site (http://upperviewcell.mylightyear.net) has temporarily been taken out of service.

1. You may wish to contact the Lightyear Wireless rep that sent you to this site and let them know their site isn't showing as an active website.

2. You are free to visit the company's general information site located at Welcome (http://corp.mylightyear.net) where you can see all the same information as appears on the site you were unable to reach.

3. The upline leader of the rep's website you are trying to view is still active. You may visit this rep's site by clicking here: Welcome (http://phonecash.mylightyear.net). If you would like to ask the active rep to contact you click here.

If you feel you have reached this message in error, please check the web address again. If you continue to experience difficulty, please contact us.

Please email us the full website address (URL) of the website or page on the website you were trying to reach by Clicking Here. In addition to providing us with the URL you may also provide any other comments that you believe could be helpful.

Thank you very much!

Click Here to go to our home page.

Why are they advertising something that as already is no longer available on that link??

Of course you can find the same old scam here:
Welcome (http://phonecash.mylightyear.net/)

[scratchycat]

Care to join in this one relating to subject matter and other discussions, come on over!!

http://www.realscam.com/f9/your-website-scam-1828/#post35591

[klagoosh]

I just visited your blog klagoosh and read enough of the article to get the idea. Since I don't care to join, I will put a comment here in response to a comment there.
Guess I need to add the link
Dave Cottrell - Adlandpro Community Classifieds (http://my.opera.com/klagoosh/blog/)

Thanks for the link, Sara Blow. :RpS_smile:

[path2prosperity]

By the way, Judy, I am pleased to know you are still following Adlandpro and the Adlandpro group "Adlanders" on Facebook, which are the only two places you could have found the link to that brand new article.

Dave

You have got that wrong Dave. I network off line and you will never know who sends me information. There are researchers, journalists, historians and other interested parties following everything which is published on sites like Adlandpro.

I do look at Adlandpro and Adlanders in Facebook to see what idiocy is being perpetrated over there and what links are being made public but most of my information comes from sources that you or nobody online will ever hear about.

[scratchycat]

Had to post this one I got through Facebook. Have I not been saying the same thing for some time now???


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[path2prosperity]

Cancer Cures. Presented by Scamland's Prize Idiot, Michael Clayton

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2514129/Cures-For-Cancer-Videos.aspx?flag=6

Just in case anybody has forgotten. This scum bag sells "Letters from Christ." and hore racing tips, What a combination?

Michael Clayton's Scamland profile.

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/members/272422.aspx

[path2prosperity]

Scamland's 100 Volunteers.

Go on boys and girls. Volunteer to have a target pasted on your sensitive parts. Invite legal authorities, journalists historians, researchers etc. Scamland is already above the radar but this little list has the spotlight on all members featured there. Take centre stage and bow to the audience.

Glance at the rag and bob tail assortment of volunteers prepared to teach newbies "the ropes" at Scamland.

type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2584989/100-Friends.aspx?flag=57

[path2prosperity]

VanBeekom Sycophant's Christmas Party.

Join the party and toast VanBeekom. They want one word to describe the woman.

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2580161/Post-One-Word-about-Forum-Owner.aspx?flag=32.

Let us join the party. One word that I would use to descibe the VanBeekom woman is EFFETE.

[scratchycat]

Scamland's 100 Volunteers.

Go on boys and girls. Volunteer to have a target pasted on your sensitive parts. Invite legal authorities, journalists historians, researchers etc. Scamland is already above the radar but this little list has the spotlight on all members featured there. Take centre stage and bow to the audience.

Glance at the rag and bob tail assortment of volunteers prepared to teach newbies "the ropes" at Scamland.

type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2584989/100-Friends.aspx?flag=57

Couldn't find that one, but I can imagine what it looks like!!:RpS_smile:

[scratchycat]

VanBeekom Sycophant's Christmas Party.

Join the party and toast VanBeekom. They want one word to describe the woman.

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2580161/Post-One-Word-about-Forum-Owner.aspx?flag=32.

Let us join the party. One word that I would use to descibe the VanBeekom woman is EFFETE.

You got me on that one, had to look it up!!

[path2prosperity]

Couldn't find that one, but I can imagine what it looks like!!:RpS_smile:

That is the right link "scratchy." It leads to a thread where Dennis Clairmont appeals for volunteers to "help" newbies. The names on the list are a giggle and a half as they are far more help to law enforcement than anybdy else.

QUOTE 100 Volunteer Program

This where you can volunteer to be added to all New Adlandpro Members that Sign up into Adlandpro.

New adlanders are signing up everyday with new adlandpro accounts that need help and Friends right away.This Volunteer Feature will save many of there new signups from becoming inactive in the adlandpro community.

As a volunteer you will be added to all the new members please do not use this feature to spam these new members.This Feature is build to help the new members make new solid friends in there time of need.Volunteer to offer help to the new Adlandpro Members.

Reply Or Quote (Sign Me In As a Volunteer) These names will be gathered as a list by the Adlandpro Owner and Staff when this number reaches 100 the feature will be added and offered to the new Adlandpro Signups.

This Feature is not to build a list to spam these new signups.
Please keep within the rules of the adlandpro community.

There could be Drawbacks and Benefits to you as a volunteer i do not need to mention so choose for yourself if this is for you.


So are going to Give up or Go for the Strong Finish

Are You Going to Finish Strong? - Video (http://www.maniacworld.com/are-you-going-to-finish-strong.html)
Tell Your Friends
Regards
Dennis

[scratchycat]

It's the same old, same old - used to be called a Buddy System where you sign up to help others. Didn't work then, won't work now. If this New Adlandpro is going anywhere it is backwards!! I am sorry but Dennis really casts doubts on the integrity of the whole place!!

I know, I know - anyone aboard with INTEGRITY?? If so they would be casting off in different direction!

[scratchycat]

So are going to Give up or Go for the Strong Finish

Are You Going to Finish Strong? - Video
Tell Your Friends
Regards
Dennis

I thought I was going to see Dennis in action making a bigger fool of himself but the link took me to this: Are You Going to Finish Strong?

Nick Vujicic has no arms or legs but has come to terms with his lot in life and he delivers an inspirational speech to these school kids that they will probably never forget.

AND error msg on video.
Are You Going to Finish Strong? - Video (http://www.maniacworld.com/are-you-going-to-finish-strong.html)

I like that reference, Maniac World linked to Adlandpro!!!

[path2prosperity]

I thought I was going to see Dennis in action making a bigger fool of himself but the link took me to this: Are You Going to Finish Strong?

Nick Vujicic has no arms or legs but has come to terms with his lot in life and he delivers an inspirational speech to these school kids that they will probably never forget.

AND error msg on video.
Are You Going to Finish Strong? - Video (http://www.maniacworld.com/are-you-going-to-finish-strong.html)

I like that reference, Maniac World linked to Adlandpro!!!

This is the link to the 100 volunteer list "scratchy." A motly rabble armed with proverbial "sticks and stones." A rabble led by by Dennis and Jimbo! It boggles the mind.

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2580161/Post-One-Word-about-Forum-Owner.aspx?flag=32.

[path2prosperity]

Scamland's list of volunteer helpers gets more and more bizarre. Latest offer of help to newbie Adlanders comes from one "jarko", Who is this Scamlander jarko. I have taken a screenshot just in case Dennis or Jimbo decide that the question is better deleted from the records.

Scamlander Jarco
Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/members/475467.aspx

or

see the "voluntary helper "jarco" on my server

Scamlander Jarco (http://www.path2prosperity.com/images/scamlanderjarco.GIF)


The "about me" in jarco's Adlandpro profile gives us a web site address (http://www.jarkko1.organogold.com/)

How is organo gold exchange AKA jarco going to help Adlandpro newbies?

Dennis Clairmont and Jim Allen have to do some very serious administration before this joke list of Adlandpro helpers gets picked up by too many law enforcement agencies. I can not help remembering what the male inhabitants of my home said about administrators of Dennis' and Jimbo's ilk.

Here is a question for the boys. Would you like to attend a piss up in a brewery with guests like those on Scamland's volunteer helper list with Jimbo Alen and Dennis Clairmont as organisers?

I may find some more dippy guests from Scamlan'd volunteer list later so the level headed ones may prefer to remove their names from the list

[scratchycat]

Was looking over my FB past year deal and came across a link so I clicked it and it led me to the despicable place so I checked on their POTTY queen and looks like she is pretty lonely in her kingdom of Koffee Klater. Only one little person commenting one time....:crying_2: just so sad for this time of year. Wonder how Shelf Reliance is coming along??

community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2501135/Mary-Evelyns-Koffee-Klatch/605.aspx

Mary Simpson - Online Store (http://www.tnlady.shelfreliance.com/tnlady)

She should have a huge stash under her bed by now!!! Anyone buying???

[scratchycat]

Someone gave her some good advice that maybe some other marketers need to remember:

Hi Evelyn

Here's a little tip for you and all you marketers.....

Never use the words "Don't forget to..." when trying to get someone to remember something. Instead say "Remember to .....!"

Psychologists say that if you use the word 'forget' in your directive, the person reading or hearing will ...guess what ....yes, they will likely forget. For example, if you tell your husband, "Don't forget to pick up the milk at the store", they say he is far more like to forget than if you had said, "Remember to pick up the milk....".

I don't know how true this is. I haven't done my own study but it makes sense ...sort of.



Helen
community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2559502/Come-Thrive-with-Mary-Evelyns-Shelf-Reliance/11.aspx

I would post her comment on that but since I don't type out profanity, you can see it at the last comment here:

community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2550284/SOUND-OFF-ON-ANY-TOPIC-YOU-WANT-TO/69.aspx

[klagoosh]

Scamland's list of volunteer helpers gets more and more bizarre. Latest offer of help to newbie Adlanders comes from one "jarko", Who is this Scamlander jarko. I have taken a screenshot just in case Dennis or Jimbo decide that the question is better deleted from the records.

Scamlander Jarco
Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/members/475467.aspx

or

see the "voluntary helper "jarco" on my server

Scamlander Jarco (http://www.path2prosperity.com/images/scamlanderjarco.GIF)


The "about me" in jarco's Adlandpro profile gives us a web site address (http://www.jarkko1.organogold.com/)

How is organo gold exchange AKA jarco going to help Adlandpro newbies?

Dennis Clairmont and Jim Allen have to do some very serious administration before this joke list of Adlandpro helpers gets picked up by too many law enforcement agencies. I can not help remembering what the male inhabitants of my home said about administrators of Dennis' and Jimbo's ilk.

Here is a question for the boys. Would you like to attend a piss up in a brewery with guests like those on Scamland's volunteer helper list with Jimbo Alen and Dennis Clairmont as organisers?

I may find some more dippy guests from Scamlan'd volunteer list later so the level headed ones may prefer to remove their names from the list

* Ahem... law enforcement agencies, Judy? Aren't you being just a touch melodramatic here? What law is being broken, here?

[path2prosperity]

* Ahem... law enforcement agencies, Judy? Aren't you being just a touch melodramatic here? What law is being broken, here?

Law enforcement agencies read these threads. Check with SBM or Eagle if you are in any doubt about this. How many Scamlanders do you think will be keen on putting themselves in the spotlight, when they are aware of this fact? Most volunteers say nothing about themselves for a very good reason.

I have not suggested that all "volunteers" have broken the law. I said that nobody with any sense would want help "learning the ropes" from "volunteers" with no information about their online activities.

[okosh]

* Ahem... law enforcement agencies, Judy? Aren't you being just a touch melodramatic here? What law is being broken, here?

You just had to drink the kool aid to toast your...cough...."gentlemens agreement" with the devil(Bogan) didn't you??.....

[okosh]

Thank you for the heads up, scratchy. I will be looking for the very things you are speaking of, and any I find will be targeted for removal.

And how many threads pimping obvious scams have you deleted at scamaland thus far??....

[baylee]

And how many threads pimping obvious scams have you deleted at scamaland thus far??....

Yes, That would be very interesting to know.

[scratchycat]

Scamland's 100 Volunteers.

Go on boys and girls. Volunteer to have a target pasted on your sensitive parts. Invite legal authorities, journalists historians, researchers etc. Scamland is already above the radar but this little list has the spotlight on all members featured there. Take centre stage and bow to the audience.

Glance at the rag and bob tail assortment of volunteers prepared to teach newbies "the ropes" at Scamland.

type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2584989/100-Friends.aspx?flag=57

I just made it over to that link and you are right about that!!! Most of them are newbies themselves and probably have no clue what they are volunteering for, can you imagine getting advice from them?? Your inbox filled with "get rich quick" spams!!

[scratchycat]

And how many threads pimping obvious scams have you deleted at scamaland thus far??....

community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2586625/Hi-Buy-My-Crap.aspx?flag=4

Notice the second one to comment!! 2291

[scratchycat]

community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2586585/Diane-Bjorling-THE-351ST-POTW-Award-Winner-Congratulations-Thread.aspx?flag=26

Well she made!! Now scammer supporter of the week has found a nice new home!!! Too much coffee my friend and those glasses do not look good on you!!

2292

[scratchycat]

Well my honor threads are still there, no influence with that one Dave??

community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2468646/The-Hypocrite-In-Chief-Is-At-It-Again.aspx?flag=86

You would think after 4 years this would be old stuff!!
community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/1158163/The-Truth-The-Whole-Truth-And-Nothing-But-The-Truth.aspx?flag=32

2294

[path2prosperity]

I just made it over to that link and you are right about that!!! Most of them are newbies themselves and probably have no clue what they are volunteering for, can you imagine getting advice from them?? Your inbox filled with "get rich quick" spams!!

Well one of the "volunteer helpers" is Kevin Huska who claims that he is the owner of Empower Network which is going down the drain very quickly. Who wants help from a looser like that one?

Mugshot from Kevin's Adlandpro profile.
Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/members/knhinc7.aspx
or
See screenshot on my server.

Kevin Huska Screenshot (http://path2prosperity.com/images/scamlandhuska.GIF).

RS Empower Network thread. (http://www.realscam.com/f8/empower-network-1659/#post36372)

Quote from Kevin's blog

"Arent you tired of living life in a dream? A dream you keep playing out in your mind, but that's as far as it get's? Maybe you have some personal thing's going on that you need to deal with and that is what is keeping you from making ALL of your dreams come true. I know for me, year's of addiction and living life in my "not so good head" kept me from making my dreams come true....A happy life, a happy wife and children, a life free of financial burden! Well I got clean, cleared my head up and made my dreams come true and so can you. Click on the link's below to see how I was able to live my life and make my dreams come true and now, I'm here to help other's do the same. I am living proof. The picture to the left I personally drew in the sand on Our 14th Wedding Anniversary was on our first ever Bahama Cruise after coming addiction free, with a cleared mind, and full of financial freedom.

KEVIN HUSKA
702-371-9684
Visit my links below to see some proof of who we are and what we have to offer to you:
My Blog: Kevin Huska's Empower Network Blog | Building a business while having a life.
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Jump Right In: www.empowernetwork.com/join.php?id=knhinc

P.S. We DO NOT sale any email's or information that you may film out in one of our form's.
And for help from life's hurt's, pain's, addiction's (whether current or past), find a Recovery place that I have been a part of for 5 years and have personally seen many people recover, become clean and have seen many marriage's saved (including mine) visit: Celebrate Recovery and find an area near you. May God Bless."

[okosh]

Yes, That would be very interesting to know.

He's still doing a count.....So far we up to zero.....

[path2prosperity]

Another "volunteer helper" Gwendolyn Johnson.

Type http// then community.adlandpro.com/members/456128.aspx

Come on Dennis, Jimbo and Dave. Weed out the fake profiles and jokers for starters. This list of volunteers makes you all look like incompetent fools.

[path2prosperity]

He's still doing a count.....So far we up to zero.....

I would be very surprised if he would be allowed to delete any advertisment or post from an Adlandpro member who pays BoggyBoy to advertise on Scamland.

[okosh]

I would be very surprised if he would be allowed to delete any advertisment or post from an Adlandpro member who pays BoggyBoy to advertise on Scamland.

So then what exactly is it that klagoosh does as a "volunteer helper"??....
Or does "volunteer helper" mean that he volunteered to help bogan to scam??....

If you gonna be volunteer or a mod at a scam forum and you claim to be anti-scam then at least do something to stop people from being scammed....
Has klagoosh done anything yet or did he just come here to realscam a bit b4 it being made official that he's a boggy boys, boy??....Maybe he thought if he made a few mates here then we wouldn't make him his own thread.....

[path2prosperity]

So then what exactly is it that klagoosh does as a "volunteer helper"??....

He promotes BoggyBoy's gold membership program.

Adlandpro Gold Package (http://members.adlandpro.com/advertisers/gold.aspx?TB=ad).

I joined that when I was a naive newbie and discovered that it was a complete rip off. I remained an Adlandpro member for far too long but I had the sense to refrain from recommending that con.

If anybody wishes to comment on other advertising rescources recommended by "klagoosh" please do so. I do not wish to use any as I tried Adland Gold once years ago and I have no doubts that it is nothing but a donation to BoggyBoy's lifestyle.

From Klagooshs'" Classified Adsland web site (http://www.classifiedadland.com/advertising-resources)

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You create a widget using our easy online interface.
You put this widget on a website, or several websites
You create more widgets and place them on more sites (you can do this as many times as you want).
You earn credits whenever your widgets get seen
That is just the start! Wait till you share it with others. Then, you will see it explode!

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[path2prosperity]

Klagoosh claims that he has joined RS to bust scams. He owns BusyBee Safelist and tells Scamlandpro members that he has relaunched it.

Daves Announcement About Busy Bee at Scamland.

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/799652/BusyBeeSafelistisBack/1.aspx

Quote

"Hi everyone,

If you've been wondering what happened to BusyBeeSafelist, it's a sad story, but it has a happy ending:

BusyBeeSafelist was wiped out by our previous hosting service! Our hosting service was recently sold to a new host, and our previous host failed to notify us. The new host deleted our entire database, including all back-ups on the server.

As of this notice, we are very pleased to announce that we have a new, more powerful and reliable hosting service AND a far better script. We are now reopening slowly, and are offering free Lifetime PRO and PREMIUM membership to the first 1100 members. We have a great new affiliate plan, as well.

We also now have a 4th level of membership, called Executive. Stay tuned for more information. You will be AMAZED at how much more we have to offer!

First 100 members get Lifetime FREE PREMIUM Membership!

Next 1000 members get Lifetime FREE PRO Membership!

Affiliate Commissions (Recurring):
Free: 0
Pro: 10%
Premium: 25%
Executive - 4 levels deep: 50%, 10%, 5%, 1%

Commissions for purchases by direct referrals:
Free: 0
Pro: 2%
Premium: 5%
Executive - 4 levels deep: 10%, 5%, 3%, 1%

Points based, meaning members earn points for reading emails

Points Commissions:
Free: Direct referrals: 75 points
Pro: Direct referrals: 300 points
Premium: Direct referrals: 1000 points
Executive - 4 levels Deep: 5000, 5000, 1000, 500

Free Random Referrals for Premium members and higher
All members can send in plain text or html
Link tracking for Pro and higher
Saved message feature
Banner advertising included for Pro members and higher
Mailbox cleaner
I am very pleased with the new system, and I look forward to many more
years. This has been a challenging bump along the road of life, but
it has given us the opportunity to make some really great changes
that will make us a true, 21st century business. We look forward to
welcoming everyone back.

If you are a previous member and miss the deadline for free lifetime
PREMIUM membership, contact me and let me know your member ID.
I will make sure your membership is set to PREMIUM for life.

God bless,

Dave
http://busybeesafelist.com"

Click busybeesafelist in Dave's signature and find a link to "nstantpaydays at busybeesafelist." It used to land on Empower Network but Dave may have changed it in the last few days.

[path2prosperity]

Who is this Joe Ross who has appeared on Scamland's Person of The Week Thread? Perhaps the new affiliate manager will investigate the matter.

POTW Feedback
By Potw Team.
Page: 1, 2 ... 121, 122, 123

12/16/2012 12:57:01 PM
By Dennis Clairmont.
611 17434
Diane Bjorling THE 351ST POTW Award Winner Congratulations Thread
By Potw Team.
Page: 1, 2 ... 8, 9, 10

12/16/2012 5:56:47 AM
By Diane Bjorling.
48 437
100 Friends
By Dennis Clairmont.
Page: 1, 2 ... 15, 16, 17

12/15/2012 9:58:23 PM
By Ngiri Chavis.
84 1830
POTW Eligible Member Suggestions
By Potw Team.
Page: 1, 2 ... 39, 40, 41

12/14/2012 3:50:28 PM
By Potw Team.
201 10619
POTW APPROVAL
By Dennis Clairmont.
Page: 1, 2

12/5/2012 2:21:40 PM
By Dennis Clairmont.
8 179
New Way To Make Money Online
By Joe Ross.

12/16/2012 10:28:46 AM
By Joe Ross.
1 2
How To Get a flood of unlimited traffic to your site!
By Joe Ross.

12/16/2012 12:49:17 AM
By Joe Ross.


I have made screenshots of Joe Ross' Adlandpro membership number and money making promotions just in case the affiliate manager needs some help in finding the person who tried to hijack their POTW thread.

[scratchycat]

One of our new members here has just praised a long time enemy of mine in Scamland, not that I care but the wolf's little playmate just had to post this:


RE: Kudos to Fanta-bulous Forum Owner Peter Fogel

12/16/2012 7:16:14 PM


Stephen this thread is a great idea!! Peter is one of my closest friends and we had a "meeting of the minds', in so many different areas, long before we got to know each other personally. From when I first came to ALP and started reading posts Peter wrote I knew he was a person of integrity. The first words that come to mind when I think of him are honesty and sincerity, he's never disappointed me in that respect.

He is well read and knowledgeable on many subjects and especially political ones and although I realize not everyone may see things the way he does, he's usually right in the end. The quickest way to get on his bad side though is to post anything that is anti-Semitic and for that he is well within his rights. I have been very disappointed in some people I have seen posting in this vein.



To Peter, thanks for being my friend. :)



Sincerely,

Evelyn
----


Wow, personally huh?? Has she been to Israel lately I wonder??

community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2586923/Kudos-to-Fantabulous-Forum-Owner-Peter-Fogel.aspx?flag=4

[path2prosperity]

Adlandpro has named and shamed the people whom they claim are eligable for their Person of The Year Award. Some people on this list have not been scam promoters but hopefully those will have the sense to refuse nomination and not allow themselves to sacrifice themselves as BoggyBow pawns.

Jim Allen and Dianne Bjoerling are the first to state that they do not wish to stand but Dianne nominates Stephen Hauser. Stephen has told Scamlanders that he is an accountant. Is that true? There are reference books that list chartered accountants and qualified cost accountantants in UK and probably in the USA, so somebody can check up to see if this is true. If he is to be lauded as Adlandpro Person of the Year, he should supply members with some recognisable credentials.

Stephen may be a "turf accountant." He may be lying or he may decide that he does not wish for the Adlandpro's Scammer of The Year crown.

It will be very interesting to see how many on this list back down from accepting their award. That says a great deal more to RS members it does about the unfortunate people willing to accept their award.

If your name is on the list and you do not wish to be nominated for POTY please let us know at the earliest possible time.

Luis Miguel Goitizolo
Stephen Hauser
Sam Hall
Kathy Hamilton
Remco Boom
Joan Stalker
Larry Blethen
Paula Frye
Jan Green
Kathleen VanBeekom
Bob Dull
Debra M-V
Michael Clayton
Andrey Lyashkov
Carl Haavaldsen
Robert Talmadge
Barb Doyle
Gail Chamberlain
Rajaram S.K.
Edna & Roger Boisjoli
Sam Sunday
Jessica Prince
Dean & Gladys Beaty
Myrna Ferguson
Mattias Kroon
Roger Bjornerud
Geketa Holman
Michael Caron
Dennis Clairmont
Amanda Martin-Shaver
Mark Dewey
Phil Black
Alain Deguire
Ken Wolff
Linda Harvey
Lydia Fokina
Branka Babic
Lenworth Nelson
Sarah Pritchard
Barbara Delgiudice
Christina A.

Thanks,

Jim Allen III
POTW Team

Note: I have removed my name from the list.

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2587181/It-is-time-to-nominate-your-favorite-of-this-years-POTW-Award-Winners-for-POTY.aspx?flag=4

to follow the next episode of this saga

[path2prosperity]

Dave Cottrell and Roger Macdivitt have withdrawn from POTW elections which has got them out of a nomination for this award. How many others will loose his or her nerve?

[scratchycat]

Adlandpro has named and shamed the people whom they claim are eligable for their Person of The Year Award. Some people on this list have not been scam promoters but hopefully those will have the sense to refuse nomination and not allow themselves to sacrifice themselves as BoggyBow pawns.

Jim Allen and Dianne Bjoerling are the first to state that they do not wish to stand but Dianne nominates Stephen Hauser. Stephen has told Scamlanders that he is an accountant. Is that true? There are reference books that list chartered accountants and qualified cost accountantants in UK and probably in the USA, so somebody can check up to see if this is true. If he is to be lauded as Adlandpro Person of the Year, he should supply members with some recognisable credentials.

Stephen may be a "turf accountant." He may be lying or he may decide that he does not wish for the Adlandpro's Scammer of The Year crown.

It will be very interesting to see how many on this list back down from accepting their award. That says a great deal more to RS members it does about the unfortunate people willing to accept their award.

If your name is on the list and you do not wish to be nominated for POTY please let us know at the earliest possible time.

Luis Miguel Goitizolo
Stephen Hauser
Sam Hall
Kathy Hamilton
Remco Boom
Joan Stalker
Larry Blethen
Paula Frye
Jan Green
Kathleen VanBeekom
Bob Dull
Debra M-V
Michael Clayton
Andrey Lyashkov
Carl Haavaldsen
Robert Talmadge
Barb Doyle
Gail Chamberlain
Rajaram S.K.
Edna & Roger Boisjoli
Sam Sunday
Jessica Prince
Dean & Gladys Beaty
Myrna Ferguson
Mattias Kroon
Roger Bjornerud
Geketa Holman
Michael Caron
Dennis Clairmont
Amanda Martin-Shaver
Mark Dewey
Phil Black
Alain Deguire
Ken Wolff
Linda Harvey
Lydia Fokina
Branka Babic
Lenworth Nelson
Sarah Pritchard
Barbara Delgiudice
Christina A.

Thanks,

Jim Allen III
POTW Team

Note: I have removed my name from the list.

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2587181/It-is-time-to-nominate-your-favorite-of-this-years-POTW-Award-Winners-for-POTY.aspx?flag=4

to follow the next episode of this saga

Interesting, but why would anyone want the title?? It means Zero and puts you in the focus of promoting a scam site.

[path2prosperity]

Interesting, but why would anyone want the title?? It means Zero and puts you in the focus of promoting a scam site.

That explains they why some are nominating Jill Bachman who is deceased. Two more Scamland members have opted out of standing for the award that puts the glare of publicity on their activities, so it makes sense for Scamland admin to have somebody who is dead and can not object to winning.

Some Scamlanders may not know that Jill Bachman made large profits from AdSurfDaily, They may not know that they are exposing a grieving family and friends to matters that should be kept private. I would be utterly disgusted if Scamland admin takes advantage of the dead in this way. It is hard to envisage scammers sinking so low.

[path2prosperity]

Well Well Well!

Scamland's 100 volunteer list (to help newbies learn the ropes) has unearthed Jose Love the cash gifter whose illegal activities have been exposed on the RS Blessings thread (http://www.realscam.com/f9/2010-blessings-part-3-a-1671)and on a Wings of Angels charity fraud thread (http://www.realscam.com/f9/upon-wings-angels-charity-fraud-1313/).

Quote

"Jose Love


Email addresses:
admin@teambuildnetwork.com
tmc@joselove.ws
teambuildnetwork@gmail.com
mymega123@gmail.com

Phone numbers:
323-788-1210
310-632-3614

Known websites:
Best Home Businesses (http://www.teambuildnetwork.com)
http://www.trinamex.com (co-founder)
http://FeedAnyProgram.Com (co-founder)
http://www.sokule.com/user_sokwall_p...okwall_id=ODY0
https://twitter.com/#!/joselove
acceptyourabundance.com (http://acceptyourabundance.com/?id=5623)
Jose Love | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/members/jlove.aspx)
http://teambuildnetwork.powerxsystem.com
http://joselovesonlinehomebusinessfr...e.blogspot.com (Red Alert! RED ALERT! Belinda Grandberry connection & frivolous legal arguments here. That is NOT a good sign regarding any financial program he's involved with.)
http://teambuildnetwork.connectingusall.org (organized crime)
Swom Group: Best Place To Advertise - Swom.com (http://swom.com/groups/1535-best-place-to-advertise)
where to find unique tattoo designs | locate unique tattoo designs (http://tattoodesignsmagic.com)
LGN International :: Home (http://www.lgnint.com/index.php?id=jlove)
Jose Love's Page - StartUp (http://sta.rtup.biz/profile/JoseLove87)
http://www.dpbrokers.com/default.asp...1878&subaffid=
Home Page (http://netmarketing.50megs.com)

Location:
19516 Tillman Avenue
Carson, California 90746



Registrant:
Jose Love
19516 Tillman Avenue
Carson, California 90746
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, LLC (Domain Names | The World's Largest Domain Name Registrar - Go Daddy (http://www.godaddy.com))
Domain Name: TEAMBUILDNETWORK.COM
Created on: 07-Dec-07
Expires on: 07-Dec-12
Last Updated on: 08-Dec-11

Administrative Contact:
Love, Jose tmc@joselove.ws
19516 Tillman Avenue
Carson, California 90746
United States
(310) 632-3614

Technical Contact:
Love, Jose tmc@joselove.ws
19516 Tillman Avenue
Carson, California 90746
United States
(310) 632-3614

Domain servers in listed order:
NS43.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
NS44.DOMAINCONTROL.COM


A side note:
Jose and his phone number were also finding hits on a thread entitled "Bogdan Fiedur of Adlandpro Threatening Suit Against Realscam.com"



Question. Where is Scamland's new affiliate manager, who has assured RS members that he will help address problems of this nature in Scamland? Answer He is on the same list of volunteers with Jose Love who has been shown up as volunteering to teach newbies how to scam.

To see Scamlander Jose Love's mugshot and his offer of help to Adlandpro members to engage in illegal activities.

Type http// then community.adlandpro.com/members/jlove.aspx

Scroll to bottom of page to see Jose Love's offer of voluntary help
Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2584989/100-Friends/24.aspx

[scratchycat]

Scamadviser.com | check a website for risk | check if dodgey | check is a website safe (http://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/adlandpro.com)

Still trying to take this one in. Help anyone??


http://www.adlandpro.com/TrustSeals.aspx#sealInfo

[path2prosperity]

How Ridiculous Can You Get

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Type http// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2587475/Turn-300-Per-Week-Into-2000-Per-Week-With-YourWBM.aspx?flag=1

Quote

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This is the link for our WBM marketing website.
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[scratchycat]

I have just been threatened with legal action about a comment I have made on here!

I believe we all know what happened last time such a thing happened, it exposed Adlandpro in many bad ways.

[path2prosperity]

I have just been threatened with legal action about a comment I have made on here!

I believe we all know what happened last time such a thing happened, it exposed Adlandpro in many bad ways.

When I had a letter from Terry Kurtis' lawyers threatening me with legal action I replied to them saying that their client was nothing but a big girl's blouse! You are more lady like than I am but I am sure that you can find a way of saying something similar.

I bet I know who tried it on. Will send you an e-mail and you can tell us if I am right.

As you can't remove comments from RS, the lawyer will have to tackle SBM and that should be fire works.

[scratchycat]

I am stating to you publically and you know who you are.

I cannot change nor remove any comment that has been posted in Real Scam, only the Administration can do that. You can appeal to them and ask that the comment be removed. SoapboxMom and LittleRoundMan are just two you can ask, there are more I don't know all of them.

The draft I sent to you was a comment I was going to make using the quote but changing it in my post. As of now, I do not think that will serve any purpose except do you more harm as you feel you have been done.

You are welcome to come to RealScam and have a discussion here if you feel you have been wronged. You are also free to file any charges against me and this website if you feel justified. I will be happy to furnish you with the name of my local sheriff and I am sure he would be there to welcome your lawyer to our town and if necessary serve me with papers. Then we will all welcome you to our town as you will have to appear here in court with your evidence against me. I will state here to you and your legal representative that it will be very hard to get any kind of settlement in the form of money from me as I don't own anything.

If you feel that I need to go to jail (Heaven forbid!) for making that simple statement then we will have a court battle.

Again, I will state that you are welcome to come to RealScam and state what you just wrote to me. I have no intention of doing it for you.

Why you assume that others read my mail is beyond me. I did share your threat with a couple of people. No one else reads my mail. I do not have any spies running around that I am aware of, maybe an Angel or two and I know God is here for me always and anyone who needs Him.

I do not intend to have any further private messaging with you and that is the reason I am posting this here in RealScam.

[Diane Bjorling]

You will note that I am using my real name as a user name..because it is me pure and simple!
Well you wanted me to come in her Sara... yes Sara Blow is Scratchcat and yes Judy Hortin ( I know how to spell names properly) is none other than path2prosperity so now that we have been formally introduced I will now answer in this venue.....

I am stating for the record that this post is wrong, it is inappropriate and it is defaming me both as a person as well as affecting me in any business that I intend to be doing.

1. It is illegal to scam people, although far too often people will not say anything, but I do!
2. It is also illegal to defame people and that is something that I will not do!
2. I do not now nor have I EVER supported a scam!
3. The people that I know in social media do not scam!
4. The people on Adland are varied and have their own feelings on many subjects. I do not have to agree with them. just as the people on Facebook, Twitter and other social media will say and do things that I do not always agree with, at no time would I ever bully, cyberbully nor would I troll them to make them feel bad. That is unethical and in my mind immoral.
5. The changes that have been happening on Adland are helping people learn how NOT to scam. When scams are found it and to my knowledge this is true, steps are taken in an appropriate fashion to stop such activities
6. I dont do Porn. Not my cup of tea and I do not go around looking for it either. I am mentioning because who knows what else I might be accused of - so this is now on record! There is a great tool that is being used by Dave Cotrall that is proving very useful in helping people to stay safe. For a person that is so maligned in so many ways...I find that what he is doing is being useful K9 Web Protection - Free Internet Filter and Parental Control Software | Free Internet Filtering and Parental Controls Software (http://www1.k9webprotection.com/)
7. Please get your facts right... I did NOT say I was going to sue or otherwise take legal action. I did tell you that I have a friend who is a lawyer who was very upset by this particular post ( I never mentioned the others) and suggested that I take action. I have contacted you to let you know that this is something that I would rather not do as I feel that any monies spent on such an endeavor would be more useful going to kids, grand kids etc.
8. I have sat back far too long and seen what is written on here and the total hate being thrown at people dead and alive and it sickens me!
9. This forum thread is a hate thread nothing more and nothing less.

I did a post on Adland that I know some people from here will see...maybe you should go and read it because on there I said I forgive you. I am now saying it here.... I forgive you Sara and I hope that you will learn a better way of doing things!

Now if there is nothing else... I intend to have a good Christmas with my family and if you feel that you need to keep doing these behaviors..then I feel sorry for you!

Merry Christmas everyone and to all a good night



community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2586585/Diane-Bjorling-THE-351ST-POTW-Award-Winner-Congratulations-Thread.aspx?flag=26

Well she made!! Now scammer supporter of the week has found a nice new home!!! Too much coffee my friend and those glasses do not look good on you!!

2292

[Soapboxmom]

Apparently, some of those who spend time on the Scamland forums aren't aware of or chose to ignore the scams, porn, lawsuit threats and other garbage posted there and elsewhere by Bogdan Fiedur, his merry henchman and the numerous scammers that find that place a veritable paradise. Though there are many wonderful folks there who are not involved in any of the nonsense that has been going on, they are by the very act of participating giving that place and its dishonest owner tacit approval.

Bogdan did not respond to folks pointing out the garbage on his forum by taking decisive action to clean it up. He chose to threaten anyone who dared to speak out, conjure up fake law school students and hire a solicitor in London to harass Judy Hortin. Perhaps, we should look at the threads related to that cesspool and that will enlighten folks as to why there are many posts here on that very sore subject.

Anyone who is active there has made that choice and really has no right to complain.

http://www.realscam.com/f16/bogdan-fiedur-owner-scam-ponzi-promoting-site-adlandpro-threatening-rs-critics-again-955/

http://www.realscam.com/f13/realscam-its-admins-have-fan-club-we-do-conspire-expose-scammers-949/

http://www.realscam.com/f9/how-legit-ez-wealth-solution-kathleen-vanbeekom-promoter-533/

http://www.realscam.com/f9/people-promoting-scam-adland-other-communities-561/

http://www.realscam.com/f9/kathleen-vonbeekoms-wonder-diet-product-formula-only-9-97-month-931/

http://www.realscam.com/f8/f5millionaires-club-adlandpro-exclusive-scam-554/

http://www.realscam.com/f9/12secondcommute-jim-allen111-free-food-free-tools-adlandpro-cyber-bully-902/

[Soapboxmom]

http://www.realscam.com/f16/bogdan-fiedur-owner-scam-ponzi-promoting-site-adlandpro-threatening-rs-critics-again-955/index4.html#post13198

http://www.realscam.com/f16/bogdan-fiedur-owner-scam-ponzi-promoting-site-adlandpro-threatening-rs-critics-again-955/index4.html#post13200

Those are some of the most hilarious posts on this site. Bogdan's henchmen pretended to be Fourth year law students. Bogdan Fiedur is a liar and fraud and he totally destroyed his own reputation with his antics online as if the porn and scams on his site weren't bad enough!!! Business suicide is quite fun to watch!

So, anyone frequenting that site and / or singing its praises needs a serious reality check. At least it is great comedy!!! Don't cry to me or the other admins about how you are being abused here. Bogdan and his cesspool henchmen started this fight and I for one intend to simply enjoy the hilarity of it all!!! Maybe he can cook up some fake FBI agents or something really amusing for us next!

[okosh]

I have just been threatened with legal action about a comment I have made on here!

I believe we all know what happened last time such a thing happened, it exposed Adlandpro in many bad ways.

Scratch their eyes out kitty....

[Soapboxmom]

As a very great man just pointed out to me in PM, one is known by the company they keep.

I am reading those old threads about Boggy Boy and I am falling out of my chair laughing. Are the fake law students going to have me "legally stopped" from rolling on the floor laughing???:RpS_lol:

Soapboxmom

[path2prosperity]

It is illegal to scam people, although far too often people will not say anything, but I do!


If that is the case, why not comment on ProfitClicking or Jose Love's promotions Dianne?

[path2prosperity]

I do not now nor have I EVER supported a scam!. The people that I know in social media do not scam!


I have not accused you of scamming anybody Dianne. I did not have any dealings with you when I was in Adlandpro. The people that you knnow in social media do not scam?

You can play Devil's advocate for BoggyBoy if you like but taking on the rest of his retinue is crass stupidity.

[path2prosperity]

As a very great man just pointed out to me in PM, one is known by the company they keep.

I am reading those old threads about Boggy Boy and I am falling out of my chair laughing. Are the fake law students going to have me "legally stopped" from rolling on the floor laughing???:RpS_lol:

Soapboxmom

There are plenty more BoggyBoy threads on RS and even more on Facebook SBM. Do you need me to help you dig out a few more?

[scratchycat]

You will note that I am using my real name as a user name..because it is me pure and simple!
Well you wanted me to come in her Sara... yes Sara Blow is Scratchcat and yes Judy Hortin ( I know how to spell names properly) is none other than path2prosperity so now that we have been formally introduced I will now answer in this venue.....

I am stating for the record that this post is wrong, it is inappropriate and it is defaming me both as a person as well as affecting me in any business that I intend to be doing.

1. It is illegal to scam people, although far too often people will not say anything, but I do!
2. It is also illegal to defame people and that is something that I will not do!
2. I do not now nor have I EVER supported a scam!
3. The people that I know in social media do not scam!
4. The people on Adland are varied and have their own feelings on many subjects. I do not have to agree with them. just as the people on Facebook, Twitter and other social media will say and do things that I do not always agree with, at no time would I ever bully, cyberbully nor would I troll them to make them feel bad. That is unethical and in my mind immoral.
5. The changes that have been happening on Adland are helping people learn how NOT to scam. When scams are found it and to my knowledge this is true, steps are taken in an appropriate fashion to stop such activities
6. I dont do Porn. Not my cup of tea and I do not go around looking for it either. I am mentioning because who knows what else I might be accused of - so this is now on record! There is a great tool that is being used by Dave Cotrall that is proving very useful in helping people to stay safe. For a person that is so maligned in so many ways...I find that what he is doing is being useful K9 Web Protection - Free Internet Filter and Parental Control Software | Free Internet Filtering and Parental Controls Software (http://www1.k9webprotection.com/)
7. Please get your facts right... I did NOT say I was going to sue or otherwise take legal action. I did tell you that I have a friend who is a lawyer who was very upset by this particular post ( I never mentioned the others) and suggested that I take action. I have contacted you to let you know that this is something that I would rather not do as I feel that any monies spent on such an endeavor would be more useful going to kids, grand kids etc.
8. I have sat back far too long and seen what is written on here and the total hate being thrown at people dead and alive and it sickens me!
9. This forum thread is a hate thread nothing more and nothing less.

I did a post on Adland that I know some people from here will see...maybe you should go and read it because on there I said I forgive you. I am now saying it here.... I forgive you Sara and I hope that you will learn a better way of doing things!

Now if there is nothing else... I intend to have a good Christmas with my family and if you feel that you need to keep doing these behaviors..then I feel sorry for you!

Merry Christmas everyone and to all a good night

Thanks for the introduction but most people already know who I am. Did you check out my signature? By the way the name I chose here after being attacked by those same people you call friends was changed from "Honestme" to "ScratchYcat"!

[Lil Ol' Radical Me]

You will note that I am using my real name as a user name..because it is me pure and simple!
Well you wanted me to come in her Sara... yes Sara Blow is Scratchcat and yes Judy Hortin ( I know how to spell names properly) is none other than path2prosperity so now that we have been formally introduced I will now answer in this venue.....

I am stating for the record that this post is wrong, it is inappropriate and it is defaming me both as a person as well as affecting me in any business that I intend to be doing.

1. It is illegal to scam people, although far too often people will not say anything, but I do!
2. It is also illegal to defame people and that is something that I will not do!
2. I do not now nor have I EVER supported a scam!
3. The people that I know in social media do not scam!
4. The people on Adland are varied and have their own feelings on many subjects. I do not have to agree with them. just as the people on Facebook, Twitter and other social media will say and do things that I do not always agree with, at no time would I ever bully, cyberbully nor would I troll them to make them feel bad. That is unethical and in my mind immoral.
5. The changes that have been happening on Adland are helping people learn how NOT to scam. When scams are found it and to my knowledge this is true, steps are taken in an appropriate fashion to stop such activities
6. I dont do Porn. Not my cup of tea and I do not go around looking for it either. I am mentioning because who knows what else I might be accused of - so this is now on record! There is a great tool that is being used by Dave Cotrall that is proving very useful in helping people to stay safe. For a person that is so maligned in so many ways...I find that what he is doing is being useful K9 Web Protection - Free Internet Filter and Parental Control Software | Free Internet Filtering and Parental Controls Software (http://www1.k9webprotection.com/)
7. Please get your facts right... I did NOT say I was going to sue or otherwise take legal action. I did tell you that I have a friend who is a lawyer who was very upset by this particular post ( I never mentioned the others) and suggested that I take action. I have contacted you to let you know that this is something that I would rather not do as I feel that any monies spent on such an endeavor would be more useful going to kids, grand kids etc.
8. I have sat back far too long and seen what is written on here and the total hate being thrown at people dead and alive and it sickens me!
9. This forum thread is a hate thread nothing more and nothing less.

I did a post on Adland that I know some people from here will see...maybe you should go and read it because on there I said I forgive you. I am now saying it here.... I forgive you Sara and I hope that you will learn a better way of doing things!

Now if there is nothing else... I intend to have a good Christmas with my family and if you feel that you need to keep doing these behaviors..then I feel sorry for you!

Merry Christmas everyone and to all a good night

Diane I posted this on another thread here, but in case you didnt see it, here it is


Sad to say this all looks like a "he/she is my friend and so cant be a scammer" kind of thread. They happen all over the place on forums and people have still not wised up to the harsh realities of the internet. We do not really know each other and anyone can be anything whilst sitting at their computer in their pjs. Not everyone is hiding behind a false identity, but there are many more who project the side of themselves they wish to present and do and say things they would never think to do face to face with people they know.

People frequently believe that their internet friendships have the same quality of commitment to loyalty and integrity as their offline ones and that these commitments are clear. They are not. People have many agendas for writing on internet forums and having internet faces and friendships. It does not mean that they are all bad, many can be positive and life enhancing, but internet users need to understand that it is far easier to cheat or lie and get away with it on the internet than it is face to face. They also need to understand that people have many facets and on the internet in social forums we only see one.

IMHO (not very H really. lol) social forums with "business" mixed in are especially pernicious as people think they know who they are dealing with and they do not. They only know one facet.

When is comes to ad hominem attacks on people, they probably wouldn't have the guts.

This part of the conversation did catch my eye though.


I notice you have a few "haters" on one forum I visited - I don't
think they hate you, just the
way you have chosen to earn online. Don't know anything about them,
but assume they are part of the
97% who don't make it online.
The part in bold is a truism (as has already been commented on another thread) because the solution is to cut off the head of the snake. The problem is with the founders, major promoters and enablers of scams and the rest are just sheeple of varying degrees of innocence or knowledge of what they are doing.

and would also like to comment on two of the points you have made


1.3. The people that I know in social media do not scam!

P2P, 12 Daily Pro, AdsurfDaily, Zeek rewards, Adventures4U, NarcThatCar, and an infinite list of other schemes that have either been closed down or have imploded beforehand have all been widely promoted on AdlandPro and by people you know. They were all scams and therefore illegal. JustBeenPaid, ProfitClicking, and another long list of similar schemes that will either be shut down or implode are still being promoted on AdlandPro. It may well be that some of the people who promoted and them are either naive or simply negligent in doing their due diligence, but I am afraid the truth of the matter is that many people we all know on social media do promote scams (whether by accident or design)

Secondly, your comment about defamation is fine, BUT there is a world of a difference in an ad hominem attack and reasoned criticism of a program that someone is promoting.
in that case


Neither can the promoter of an online program which is accused with factual and mathematical evidence of being a fraud, illegal, or unsustainable cry "not fair". They are obliged to defend their programs with solid facts that prove the accusations are false or own up and admit that maybe their "businesses" are not so clean as they are claiming them to be. What they cant do is have it both ways.

what is not professional is to attack the accuser. The professional solution is simply to show hard evidence that they are incorrect. If someone on social media repeatedly promotes schemes which are unsustainable or illegal or both, then is hard to understand why they consider themselves deserving of special treatment because they are "nice people" in their social media lives when they continue to promote something to their online friends which has been demonstrated to be risky, illegal or unsustainable

[scratchycat]

Scratch their eyes out kitty....

Thanks, I believe they are doing it themselves.

[Soapboxmom]

community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2586585/Diane-Bjorling-THE-351ST-POTW-Award-Winner-Congratulations-Thread.aspx?flag=26

Well she made!! Now scammer supporter of the week has found a nice new home!!! Too much coffee my friend and those glasses do not look good on you!!

2292

I just realized that I had neglected to congratulate Ms. Bjorling. She has been named Scammer Supporter of the week on that cesspool known as Scamplandpro. Things are gettting boring around here. Are the ace fake UCLA Fourth year law students going to jump in the fray again? Are we going to continue the hilarious thread at Quatloos as well?

Quatloos! • View topic - Bogdan Fiedur of Adlandpro Threatens Realscam.com (http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7798&sid=f69c097ecf03edf24aa43828673b8ea7)

Will Diane Bjorling join Bogdan and his henchmen on that lie-filled site where the drunk barfly friends of Boggy pretended to be UCLA law students? How many more unfounded and downright humorous lawsuit threats are folks from Adlandpro going to make, huh Bjorling??? Is Diane Bjorling begging for a thread of her own here? That can be arranged!

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Soapboxmom

[Soapboxmom]

REALSCAM.COM may live up to it's name? - REALTRUTH.ORG (http://realtruthorg.webs.com/apps/blog/show/10527500-realscam-com-may-live-up-to-it-s-name-#comments)

If this isn't enough to send any decent honest person running from Boggy's sleazy site I can't imagine what it would take. Bogdan apparently had no interest in removing the porn, illegal cash gifting, forex scams, HYIP scams, illegal pyramid schemes, MLM crap or anything else from his site that generates income. He was hell bent on attacking anyone who dared to expose his forum for what it is. I spent a tremendous amount of time dealing with his lie-filled attacks and garbage posts across the net. Judy Hortin had to deal with a high-priced London lawyer hired to harass her.

So, it is incredibly simple in my view. Those that associate with Adlandpro are doing so knowing full well just what a lying, vicious goon Bogdan is and exactly the what the true nature of the site is. One is known by the company one keeps. If Bjorling can't take the heat then she shouldn't be in the kitchen plain and simple. I don't think that those of us who have been victims of Bogdan's chicanery will be backing down or apologizing for sharing the truth.

Soapboxmom

[Lil Ol' Radical Me]

Just one other issue which is worth a mention and that is DENIAL. The hardest part of being caught up in a scam is the acceptance that it has happened to you and that you may even have promoted it in good faith to your friends and family. We have seen many instances of this. AdSurfDaily is one example. We know have sufficient information to know that ASD was set up to be a ponzi by a serial fraudster together with a group of other experienced fraudsters. Most people have taken on board the fact that they were scammed and took part in a scam, in light of the information now available, but there are still a few who are unable to face the fact that it happened to them and that they either earned money through a fraud or were responsible for others losing money through a fraud that they will do anything to deny it was a fraud. We are now seeing the same conduct with Zeek Rewards in spite of the fact that the owner has never contested it being closed down

This happens with every scheme that is either prosecuted or simply implodes because of its lack of sustainability, but the facts remain the same, whatever spin you put on it.

What should be of concern to anyone involved in any similar scheme is that the law does not make a difference between a naive promoter who has not done their due diligence and a promoter who knows exactly what they are doing. The Receiver in the Zeek case has sent out 1200 subpoenas for clawbacks to net winners so far (which is a far cry from the token clawbacks made in the CEP scheme). Law enforcement has wised up as to how and where the internet scams are promoted. They are recognizing the important role of promoters in keeping scams going and a few have already been prosecuted.

Anyone who is involved in an internet money making scheme which is being called out as a scam or unsustainable should be making an effort to do some thorough investigation on the business they are promoting, involved in or thinking of joining. Remember that some 800,000 human beings lost their money in Zeek Rewards, some up to 10,000$ or more. Many of those people joined because of what they had been told by friends, family and internet friends on social forums. They will not be as lucky as the victims of ASD as there is not enough money left to pay all the losses, only a percentage. In some schemes, especially the ones that fold, people lose everything. There are thousands of examples all over the internet for those who really want to know.

And, Diane, please try to understand that people on forums like Real Scam do not generally write about possible scams in order to score points or defame. They usually do it to provide information and warn people of the implications and dangers that are intrinsic in joining and promoting them.

[scratchycat]

The message I had drafted to post here was for all good intentions but I don't take kindly to threats and commands. I have the proof of the 'talking with lawyer thing' and that can mean only What? - and the command where you told me what to do, Diane Bjorling but I had rather not post it here. If you insist, I will do it.

It is my opinion that this exploded from being a friendly conversation to a threatening legal action situation. As you know, I ended all private contact with you at that point. If you had not gotten so upset and carried this to that extreme your name would not be continuing to be posted in here. Yet you took the freedom to post my name. You are concerned about YOUR business, what about MY business and My name being slandered again. It does not concern me because my true family and friends know me for what I am and none of you from Adlandpro can hurt me again.


community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2586585/Diane-Bjorling-THE-351ST-POTW-Award-Winner-Congratulations-Thread.aspx?flag=26

Well she made it!! So much fun to be POTW and get all the applause!!! Too much coffee my friend and those glasses do not look good on you!! There, changed that and you decide...2292
"
I was there at one time and just so happy I had all these wonderful friends!! Those glasses did not look good on me either and I thought I was doing so much good and spreading hugs and warmth all around. The Adland Art Gallery was a big success and I promoted artists, poets, and encouraged people. I know at least one person (hopefully others) came out and exposed their love of art and even took up courses and began to write poetry. Now that person has really done great with their artwork and I am happy about that. I suppose had it not been for the cruel people there I might still be doing it - not sure and I would never have been here in RS.

It is a fact that there are a lot of people in that place who are being ripped off by signing up for the numerous 'programs' that are tossed about freely. What the heck - I can spend $5 and get some other fools to spend $5 and I am suddenly going to become RICH!!!! Until I was scammed a few times and learned not to give away my $5 did I start trying to alert others.

It is a fact that I am happy to not be a member of Adlandpro anymore. Some still think they can help and I wish them well. I would encourage to have the message presented in a different website and other places but maybe this will help ALP members in some way.

By the way, I LOVE my morning coffee and sometimes a cup in the afternoon. Too much and I get too wired!!!!"

It could have stopped there...

[path2prosperity]

I did tell you that I have a friend who is a lawyer who was very upset by this particular post ( I never mentioned the others) and suggested that I take action.

So you had a lawyer look at one RS thread and offer his or her first impression. Big deal!!!

What is your area of expertise?

Your Adlandpro avatar suggests that you are a serious coffee drinker. Can you comment on the "Coffee with Aphrodisiacs" (http://www.realscam.com/f10/passion-coffee-aphrodisiacs-recommended-affiliate-program-1235/) sold by Scamlander Michael Clayton, who also sells "Letters from Christ (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2393930/ChristsLettersOf20062007ConfirmNewWorld/1.aspx)"

You may wish to compare Clayton's coffee promotions with Organo Gold and comment in that thread.

Organo Gold. (http://www.realscam.com/f9/trouble-brewing-organo-gold-coffee-mlm-1117)

[Soapboxmom]

And, Diane, please try to understand that people on forums like Real Scam do not generally write about possible scams in order to score points or defame. They usually do it to provide information and warn people of the implications and dangers that are intrinsic in joining and promoting them.
Absolutely! I have been sued twice, helped several victims fight in court and been endlessly harassed by the Bogdan's of the world. So, I have very little sympathy for characters like him or those that actively support them. Anyone that chooses to associate with someone of Bogdan's caliber should not be surprised to be caught in the line of fire. The lawsuit threats were an ignorant move as well. Didn't Bogdan's embarrassing antics teach the Adlandpro members a lesson???

[scratchycat]

Absolutely! I have been sued twice, helped several victims fight in court and been endlessly harassed by the Bogdan's of the world. So, I have very little sympathy for characters like him or those that actively support them. Anyone that chooses to associate with someone of Bogdan's caliber should not be surprised to be caught in the line of fire. The lawsuit threats were an ignorant move as well. Didn't Bogdan's embarrassing antics teach the Adlandpro members a lesson???

You would have thought so.

Here is the kind of thing anyone involved with Adland is helping to support just by being involved and promoting adland in other places.


: DAILY FREE AD THREAD (POST HERE OR START YOUR OWN PLEASE)

12/16/2012 2:56:05 PM

Hi all, my main forum is "POST YOUR MONEY-MAKING OPPS HERE," where I have a thread dedicated to ads, however you are also welcome to post your ad in a new thread. You are okay to post an ad in any of my forums in any thread, or start your own thread.

However I do encourage other topics and dialogue rather than just money-making stuff. Now one exception would be my forum "Share if a Website is a Scam or Not?" In this forum I strongly prefer that you do NOT post ads, but rather focus on the topic at hand.

Thanks so much all for your encouragement, support & participation over the years. Steve

2-DAILY FREE AD THREAD (POST HERE OR START YOUR OWN PLEASE) | View Thread | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2582112/DAILY-FREE-AD-THREAD-POST-HERE-OR-START-YOUR-OWN-PLEASE/2.aspx)

[scratchycat]

3-Share if a Website is a Scam or Not please | View Thread | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2585574/Share-if-a-Website-is-a-Scam-or-Not-please/3.aspx)

I think we were typing at the same time...lol, got to love conversations

You hit on a point that needs to be made that is how people used to do things offline..They actually made the effort to join something, get training and if things were not working they could talk to real people and get help.

You are soooo right, now a days people join anything and everything with the expectation that they will make a million bla bla bla. If I am sounding facetious, it is not my intent. I am concerned to be honest that people are indeed sheeple, but more important people are also desperate and they think that they do not have to do the work. After all they have been sold a bill of goods perpetuated by smooth talking hawksters saying so many things it is hard to know what to think!

The people who are to be respected the "true" marketers know that just like any job, it takes work and learning all aspects to the craft and then making it work for them and others.

The reality is that marketing in general, internet marketing specifically is something to be seen with suspicion and yet what people need to really understand is that there are so many products and services online that are reputable, that are of value and can be used by many and if you can make some extra money, by talking about them, using them..then yay!

As I have said before and will say again, it is through talking to people ( such as yourself, Stephen and I know others) that people can learn how to do things, that people can share their thoughts and get questions answered.

There are always going to be those who are going to be poison, who will do all they can to bring a person down..that is a fact of life off line and online..we can give up and be angry or we can make a decision and show them wrong!

It has been good talking to you Kathleen, but now I have to get more Christmas baking done... have a great day!

In reply to this from kcvan

Quote:

The internet sheeple mentality has gone over the edge, beyond critical mass.

Do you know how people used to determine if a business was a scam in the "olden days" before the internet?

They'd JOIN the business and see how it worked, if it worked, and communicate with the owner.

EZ Wealth Solution usually only costs $10 to join, right now it's a $5 joining special this month. Any "scam discusser" who isn't willing to join $5 or $10 businesses and make an in-depth study, should not be calling themselves a "scam discusser".

Mail-order studies of 15 or 20 years ago, and even now today, are made by people who are willing to put in the money to join businesses and study them for 30 days or more. If "scam discussers" are not willing to put in a few dollars per month and a few hours per day for 30 consecutive days to really study 12 businesses per year from the inside, unwilling to spend $60 to $120 per year, and make competent reviews and gain a competent audience, then they are NOT "scam discussers", they are just lazy, flat broke, incompetent, unknowledgeable people with a lack of longterm commitment and lack of credibility that they are trying to instill into the heads of any other unknowledgeable people who read their uselessness.


Yes, well, I pass...

[scratchycat]

We are just a few baby steps to the 100 Friends list to be complete
Posts 123 Views 2623 Signups 88
100 Friends | View Thread | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2584989/100-Friends.aspx?flag=123265854)
Exciting Or What we'll be linked to all new signups these new friends will come on all shapes and sizes.
These new members will count on us for advice in the inner workings of the Adlandpro Community.
We in time will far exceed the 100 Volunteers you here in this forum are the best of the best Adlandpro Members in activity and service to the community,
It's been a pleasure (hijacking this forum ) Lol And you all are just the kind of members any community would be proud to have at forefront as Active members.
Thanks for The support and Great Feedback,
THIS IS A GREAT LIST TO FIND POTW CANDITES
There is more to come

125-POTW Feedback | View Thread | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2395897/POTW-Feedback/125.aspx)

[scratchycat]

Guess what showed up on Google??

How to Use a Forum for Business - SSD Cloud Computing News and Industry Blog | Adlandpro | Scoop.it (http://www.scoop.it/t/adlandpro/p/3709455549/how-to-use-a-forum-for-business-ssd-cloud-computing-news-and-industry-blog?tag=business)

Adlandpro | Scoop.it (http://www.scoop.it/t/adlandpro)

[scratchycat]

Very good article on PP, might be good for some Scamlanders to read.

BULLETIN: Zeek Receiver Says ‘Large Sums . . . May Have Been Transferred By Net Winners To Other Entities In Order To Hide Or Shelter Those Assets’ (http://www.patrickpretty.com/2012/12/20/bulletin-zeek-receiver-says-large-sums-may-have-been-transferred-by-net-winners-to-other-entities-in-order-to-hide-or-shelter-those-assets/)

[path2prosperity]

Absolutely! I have been sued twice, helped several victims fight in court and been endlessly harassed by the Bogdan's of the world. So, I have very little sympathy for characters like him or those that actively support them. Anyone that chooses to associate with someone of Bogdan's caliber should not be surprised to be caught in the line of fire. The lawsuit threats were an ignorant move as well. Didn't Bogdan's embarrassing antics teach the Adlandpro members a lesson???

I have not been sued but I have had more threats of legal action by scammers than I can count on both hands including Bob Krimm, Autosurf Authourity and MyCashForum mods then some idiots from Terry Kurtis and Nickers Smirnow domains. Smirnow objected to the name "Nickers" which I gave him and the slogan that I used to describe his "voice" in the cyberspace world which was. "Knickers to Nickers." It seemed a very inoffensive remark to my mind and Smirnows lawyers failed to establish the fact that this was defamation.

My comments on BoggyBoy are not the most lady like but my thoughts on the matter remain as they always have since I first announced them on a public forum. If anybody wants to know what they were and Scratcy does not get too upset I will repeat them to the ponzi promoting world and his dog.

[path2prosperity]

[COLOR="#0000CD"]Hi all, my main forum is "POST YOUR MONEY-MAKING OPPS HERE,"

With Kathleen Van Beekom's idea of a Biz opp in pride of place.

Scam or dubious money making opportunity.

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[path2prosperity]

In this forum are the best of the best Adlandpro Members in activity and service to the community,
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The best scammers? or the best pawn's?

[path2prosperity]

By the way, I LOVE my morning coffee and sometimes a cup in the afternoon. Too much and I get too wired!!!![/COLOR][/SIZE]"

It could have stopped there...

Don't you think we should ask some of Scamland's male members to test Michael's aphrodisiac blend "scratchy?" Diane has not volunteered to test the product but Michael does say that it works on male hormones rather than female ones.

I wonder what Jim Allen has to say about the product? Perhaps he can consult his mate Gary Colhuln on the matter and comment.

I have spelled your name correctly this time Diane. My spelling is bad after my stroke but I am improving slowly.

[path2prosperity]

Paula Frye seems to have finaly got the message that FunkyShark has gone belly up. I wonder why VanBeekom's mentor was so slow to get the message. Perhaps Adlandpro members can get the message that BoggyBoy's generals are a bit slow on the uptake.

FunkyShark thread on RS (http://www.realscam.com/f9/funkyshark-ken-russo-paula-fry-scamlandpro-top-pick-1642/index2.html)

Perhaps Kathleen and Paula would like to read

Patrick Pretty on FunkyShark (http://www.patrickpretty.com/2012/12/20/urgent-bulletin-moving-montana-fines-funky-shark-purported-upstart-penny-auction-program-operator-agrees-to-pay-834000-after-issuance-of-cease-and-desist-order/)

[path2prosperity]

? Classified Advertising
Free classified advertising is still one of the very best ways for advertising anything
Curated by Dave Cottrell

Including the fact that you are a BoggyBoy Lieutennant Dave. You will have to salute Kathy Hamilton and Kathleen VanBeekom to get a better position in Scamland's pecking order.

Dave Cotrell's news scoop. (http://www.scoop.it/t/classified-advertising)

I would consider news about Carol Salisbury's earnings from Bowdoin a scoop. Perhaps you can dig something about that out of the gutter press.

[chopperone]

what is not professional is to attack the accuser. The professional solution is simply to show hard evidence that they are incorrect. If someone on social media repeatedly promotes schemes which are unsustainable or illegal or both, then is hard to understand why they consider themselves deserving of special treatment because they are "nice people" in their social media lives when they continue to promote something to their online friends which has been demonstrated to be risky, illegal or unsustainable

Sorry... this is BS. It is the job of the accuser to prove his or her case, not the job of the one accused to prove his or her innocence. Once the accuser makes his case with EVIDENCE, then the accused can try to defend himself. This whole site seems to be full of this kind of opinion based BS with no decent evidence of any kind... just a bunch of people with time on their hands and egos that need to be stroked talking back and forth to each other. Grab a life, pepes, you could have an great site here, if you did a decent job of it instead of all this worthless gossipping

[littleroundman]

It is the job of the accuser to prove his or her case, not the job of the one accused to prove his or her innocence.

Unless, of course, the accused is taking money for his or her activities.

Then it IS the job of he/she to prove he/she is not taking money under false pretenses.

That's the beauty of the internet.

http://www.realscam.com/images/misc/realscam-logo1.gif

See that ???

YOU DECIDE

[Lil Ol' Radical Me]

Sorry... this is BS. It is the job of the accuser to prove his or her case, not the job of the one accused to prove his or her innocence. Once the accuser makes his case with EVIDENCE, then the accused can try to defend himself. This whole site seems to be full of this kind of opinion based BS with no decent evidence of any kind... just a bunch of people with time on their hands and egos that need to be stroked talking back and forth to each other. Grab a life, pepes, you could have an great site here, if you did a decent job of it instead of all this worthless gossipping

Think you missed the last part ...


when they continue to promote something to their online friends which has been demonstrated to be risky, illegal or unsustainable

There are many threads on this and other consumer advocacy forums which give chapter and verse on WHY certain schemes are scams. Check Quatloos, to name but one, and you will find that they generally share the views of this forum as to which is or isn't a scam (and they are only a bunch of legal eagles. lol) The views expressed on one consumer advocacy site invariably coincide with others doing a similar job (protecting the public). Google the schemes. Never mind about the promoters names attached to them when you start, just check out the schemes. You can tie the names in afterwards if you choose and decide for yourself if that particular person is a serial promoter of illegal schemes or if it's their first rodeo.

So you see, I am not for a minute suggesting that anyone who has been accused "joe soap is a scammer" per se needs to provide any justification, but when the scheme itself that they promote is under fire, they should be willing to defend their schemes with facts and figures or just keep quiet.(and I got paid really doesn't hack it as a demonstration of legality or sustainability by the way. Everyone gets paid for a while). The cries of "unfair" and "I am being cyberstalked" are a little inappropriate when those same people are publicly promoting their "businesses" with their personal information attached and with claims that are being demonstrated to be misleading or downright false.

If you dont want to be called out for promoting a HYIP, one of the more scurrilous MLMs or any other dubious money making scheme and calling it a legal and sustainable way to make money online, then don't promote it in everyone's face. You can't have it both ways.


Everyone has their own way of presenting their views about scams including those scams promoted on AdlandPro on many threads here, but if you take a careful look you will find that there is generally a hard body of fact behind the accusations of a program being a scam. It doesn't matter if one likes or trusts a person who promotes a specific scam, because the facts that evidence it to be a scam do not change because of the name of the member who promotes it.

Before calling out a forum for BS accusations, it would be wise to take a long hard look at the stuff promoted there in members threads and signatures, before defending a site like AdlandPro as being pretty much scam free. You might get an unpleasant surprise.

[Lil Ol' Radical Me]

And for those who threaten legal action for defamation, or even imply that it might be a possiblity, remember a little item called discovery. why do you think that people accused of scamming rarely take their accusers to court in spite of threats to do so?

[scratchycat]

Sorry... this is BS. It is the job of the accuser to prove his or her case, not the job of the one accused to prove his or her innocence. Once the accuser makes his case with EVIDENCE, then the accused can try to defend himself. This whole site seems to be full of this kind of opinion based BS with no decent evidence of any kind... just a bunch of people with time on their hands and egos that need to be stroked talking back and forth to each other. Grab a life, pepes, you could have an great site here, if you did a decent job of it instead of all this worthless gossipping

And you???

[Whip]

Sorry... this is BS. It is the job of the accuser to prove his or her case, not the job of the one accused to prove his or her innocence. Once the accuser makes his case with EVIDENCE, then the accused can try to defend himself. This whole site seems to be full of this kind of opinion based BS with no decent evidence of any kind... just a bunch of people with time on their hands and egos that need to be stroked talking back and forth to each other. Grab a life, pepes, you could have an great site here, if you did a decent job of it instead of all this worthless gossipping
Yeah.........you might actually want to read what is posted on this site and then come back and apologize. In fact, 2 posts up from your whinefest is a fact based post you must have missed in your anger.

[Soapboxmom]

Guess what showed up on Google??

How to Use a Forum for Business - SSD Cloud Computing News and Industry Blog | Adlandpro | Scoop.it (http://www.scoop.it/t/adlandpro/p/3709455549/how-to-use-a-forum-for-business-ssd-cloud-computing-news-and-industry-blog?tag=business)

Adlandpro | Scoop.it (http://www.scoop.it/t/adlandpro)




http://img.scoop.it/AIv2dUBBVBMQFxGv-hlXley7_ZqweuUDvdarVjaIR5c= (http://www.scoop.it/u/Blogneta)
Scooped by Diane Bjorling (http://www.scoop.it/u/Blogneta)



http://www.scoop.it/resources/img/post/icon_rescoop.png Scoop.it!


Bogdan Fiedur | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/members/adland.aspx)
http://img.scoop.it/gAjUocLQazi3QJsDdxSgFTl72eJkfbmt4t8yenImKBVaiQDB_R d1H6kmuBWtceBJ
(http://community.adlandpro.com/members/adland.aspx)
From community.adlandpro.com (http://community.adlandpro.com/members/adland.aspx) - December 6, 4:41 PM (http://www.scoop.it/t/adlandpro/p/3626781601/bogdan-fiedur-adlandpro-community)
Meet Bogdan Fiedur - CEO of Adlandpro. Bogdan started AdlandPRo in 1998 and has been considered a visionary in terms of social networking. He has been touted as being one of the best loved Owners of any social networking site, with his integrity, his passion for helping his members and for being one of the most ethical men in the online world of business






I needed a barf bag to get through that. Diane Bjorling better be careful. The Bogmeister might get in a huff and sick his army of fake law students on her and ruin her publicly!

[littleroundman]

From community.adlandpro.com (http://community.adlandpro.com/members/adland.aspx) - December 6, 4:41 PM (http://www.scoop.it/t/adlandpro/p/3626781601/bogdan-fiedur-adlandpro-community)
Meet Bogdan Fiedur - CEO of Adlandpro. Bogdan started AdlandPRo in 1998 and has been considered a visionary in terms of social networking. He has been touted as being one of the best loved Owners of any social networking site, with his integrity, his passion for helping his members and for being one of the most ethical men in the online world of business

Good-bloody-lord

[baylee]

Good-bloody-lord

I think the he is well over top! Perhaps he well decide to ride a barrel over Niagara Falls! I will gladly pay to see bagman do it! Please! Please! and be quick about it!

[okosh]

You will note that I am using my real name as a user name..because it is me pure and simple!
Well you wanted me to come in her Sara... yes Sara Blow is Scratchcat and yes Judy Hortin ( I know how to spell names properly) is none other than path2prosperity so now that we have been formally introduced I will now answer in this venue.....

I am stating for the record that this post is wrong, it is inappropriate and it is defaming me both as a person as well as affecting me in any business that I intend to be doing.

1. It is illegal to scam people, although far too often people will not say anything, but I do!
2. It is also illegal to defame people and that is something that I will not do!
2. I do not now nor have I EVER supported a scam!
3. The people that I know in social media do not scam!

You sleep with dogs you wake with fleas.....Adland's sole purpose for existance is to promote scams and to steal money from others....
You support Adland and the scams they promote there then that makes you either complicit to the crime or an outright scammer....

[okosh]

Sorry... this is BS. It is the job of the accuser to prove his or her case, not the job of the one accused to prove his or her innocence. Once the accuser makes his case with EVIDENCE, then the accused can try to defend himself. This whole site seems to be full of this kind of opinion based BS with no decent evidence of any kind... just a bunch of people with time on their hands and egos that need to be stroked talking back and forth to each other. Grab a life, pepes, you could have an great site here, if you did a decent job of it instead of all this worthless gossipping

No need to be so nasty.....If you also pimping scams and you want us to expose you then all you need to do is ask......

[path2prosperity]

Here is another scoop it. (http://www.scoop.it/t/classified-advertising)

Did anybody read BoggyBoy's e-book? I read the first (free) chapter and decided that I did not want to be guided by his marketing stratedy.

Who are all these "Scoop it" gurus? I smell a few rats.

[scratchycat]

I agree with you guys! It was hard to keep my queasy stomach settled when I saw that one. Now I can understand all the profanity and whining I was getting! A new business with a partner and who is footing the bill?? Any guesses?
Social Thoughts | View Forum | AdlandPro Community | Adlandpro | Scoop.it (http://www.scoop.it/t/adlandpro/p/3626712157/social-thoughts-view-forum-adlandpro-community)

[Soapboxmom]

REALSCAM.COM may live up to it's name? - REALTRUTH.ORG (http://realtruthorg.webs.com/apps/blog/show/10527500-realscam-com-may-live-up-to-it-s-name-#comments)

Diane Bjorling, the apparent head of Bogdan Fiedur's fan club, needs to run on over and become member number 8 of that hilarious site! She needs to get to the bar and get some coffee to those fake UCLA law students pronto!!!!!

[path2prosperity]

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Diane Bjorling, the apparent head of Bogdan Fiedur's fan club, needs to run on over and become member number 8 of that hilarious site! She needs to get to the bar and get some coffee to those fake UCLA law students pronto!!!!!

She still has not told us if she like her coffee with or without aphrodisiacs SMB

Do you think that the new affiliate manager could be persuaded to check out the aprodisiacs that are part of the coffee sold by Adlandpro member Michael Clayton. Perhaps BoggyBoy would donate a few dollars to have a product which is advertised on his board sent to a public analyst.

[Soapboxmom]

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Oh goody!!!! I can be the very prestigious 8th member of the Real Fraud site. I might even beat Diane Bjorling to the punch!

[scratchycat]

I really feel bad that we have put a damper on their new business. :crying_2:

May all happy adlanders go to that happy land sprinkled with fairy dust and all the hype programs they promote and have a real Merry Christmas knowing they have done their part in promoting all those promises of "get rich quick" while living in that fantasy world of 'friends scamming friends'. As PEOPLE, I wish you the best and ask you reconsider just what it is you are doing to try to make money online.

[Soapboxmom]

adlandpro.com UVs for November 2012 | Compete (http://siteanalytics.compete.com/adlandpro.com/)

Bogdan's traffic like Scam.com's is going completely down the commode. His traffic plunged 40% this year. So much for his business brilliance, huh Bjorling??? In fact this much newer site, my beloved RS, has more reads than the cesspool Bogdan owns!

:RpS_wink: realscam.com UVs for November 2012 | Compete (http://siteanalytics.compete.com/realscam.com/)

[Soapboxmom]

423 (http://adlandpro.com/)




http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/95093402/Bogdan_Fiedur_normal.jpg

adlandpro (http://twitter.com/#%21/adlandpro) Bogdan Fiedur



Get exposed to millions of potential customers + free add to 80,000 SE Social Networks | Social Networks | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/SocialNetworks.aspx?refer=adland)

9 Apr 10 (http://twitter.com/#%21/adlandpro/status/11898990878)

Over 60,000 unique visitors in October of 2010 and then Bogdan takes on this forum and its members and he is now limping along with a whopping 17,000 unique visitors. He is nothing but a lying fraud. Diane Bjorling sure knows how to pick her heroes!!!

[path2prosperity]

I needed a barf bag to get through that. Diane Bjorling better be careful. The Bogmeister might get in a huff and sick his army of fake law students on her and ruin her publicly!

Can Diane speak Polish?

Does the lawyer who gave Diane an off the cuff opinion about BoggyBoy's online activities have a partner or partners who can read the Polish version of Adlandpro web site?

[path2prosperity]

Y

Oh goody!!!! I can be the very prestigious 8th member of the Real Fraud site. I might even beat Diane Bjorling to the punch!

As Bernier and Oakley have deserted that sinking ship SBM the domain could be up for sale. I am going down to Guilford in the New Year. I may pop into the Law School there to see what students there have to say about this web site and the two students who support BoggyBoy. Most of the Guilford mob will know Howard Kennedy and find BoggyBoy's representation by that firm very ammusing.

I could see if the law school would allow me to put up a few "Do Not Mess with Soapboxmum" stickers in the student's union quatres. Diane may wish to expose her new business to some real law students.

[path2prosperity]

Diane and the Affiliate Manager still refuse to answer my question about coffee with aprodisiacs. I am sure a bunch of students would enjoy testing or commenting on that brand of coffee.

I was an analytical chemistry technician fifty years ago and I cam remember the speculation about the effects of one known as "Spanish Fly" My brother was quite interested in knowing if anybody at work could get hold of a few drops for his very expensive boar that had lost its libido and would not service my brother's favourite breeding sows.

[okosh]

Can Diane speak Polish?


No....She only speaks "Scam".....

[scratchycat]

No....She only speaks "Scam".....

And praise to Adlandpro:

Diane Bjorling hi Bogdan and everyone... what a wonderful video. Even though I am in B.C, I am able to access, kind of FB and a few other things, but using some one elses computer is a bit of a challenge as you can see from my typing...lol. I want to wish everyone a very merry christmas and would like to see the new year, become one where we can move forward, that we can go beyond the difficulties that have beset so many and I want to see Adland, become everything I know it can be

https://www.facebook.com/groups/adlanders/

[Soapboxmom]

I have been rereading the old Bogdan Fiedure threads and I must admit I can't decide which one of these two is the best of the bunch:

http://www.realscam.com/f11/bogdan-fiedur-adlandpro-threatening-suit-against-realscam-com-913/

http://www.realscam.com/f16/bogdan-fiedur-owner-scam-ponzi-promoting-site-adlandpro-threatening-rs-critics-again-955/

Perhaps, Diane Bjorling would like to keep this fight going and get her own thread. Then we could start a poll and let our members vote on their favorite!

[Soapboxmom]

Remember Bogdan Fiedur's ridiculous idea that we at Realscam evaluate business opportunities on his site??? Though I am sure everyone here is still incredibly flattered, we are still falling over laughing about that one! I wonder if Diane Bjorling would have liked Boggy having us on duty at the cesspool?

http://www.realscam.com/f11/bogdan-fiedur-adlandpro-threatening-suit-against-realscam-com-913/index12.html#post12664
(http://www.realscam.com/f11/bogdan-fiedur-adlandpro-threatening-suit-against-realscam-com-913/index12.html#post12664)

[path2prosperity]

Remember Bogdan Fiedur's ridiculous idea that we at Realscam evaluate business opportunities on his site???
http://www.realscam.com/f11/bogdan-fiedur-adlandpro-threatening-suit-against-realscam-com-913/index12.html#post12664
(http://www.realscam.com/f11/bogdan-fiedur-adlandpro-threatening-suit-against-realscam-com-913/index12.html#post12664)

What business opportunities has anybody seen on advertised on Adlandpro recently?

We coud try evaluating BoggyBoy's Adlandpro Gold Member Package (http://members.adlandpro.com/advertisers/gold.aspx?TB=ad) for starters.

My opinion after using it for two or three months in 2003 is COMPLETE WASTE OF MONEY.

More opinions can be seen on Google. Google Results for Adlandpro Gold Member Package (http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_rn=1&gs_ri=hp&cp=29&gs_id=sm&xhr=t&q=adlandpro+gold+member+package&pf=p&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&oq=adlandpro+gold+member+package&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.d2k&fp=da51af1112b196c&bpcl=40096503&biw=1280&bih=790)

[path2prosperity]

A new business with a partner and who is footing the bill?? Any guesses?
Social Thoughts | View Forum | AdlandPro Community | Adlandpro | Scoop.it (http://www.scoop.it/t/adlandpro/p/3626712157/social-thoughts-view-forum-adlandpro-community)

It would have to be somebody with far more money than sense. If super rich British football star, David Icke really is a member of Adlandpro, he may have made a "donation to Scamlandpro."

I believe that he was a member and that he was a member of Jill Bachman’s NewAgeU (http://www.newageu.com/) forum but that is only hearsay. There is a very strong similarity between David Icke’s spiritual beliefs and Jill Bachman’s Mountain of Crap (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/569870/A-Journey-to-the-Mountain-of-Love/3419.aspx)so it is not impossible that he has flung some money in BoggyBoy’s direction,

As David Icke's theories were laughed to scorn on BBC TV recently, he may have taken his hurt ego to a Canadian publication in the hopes of getting a better reception from his Canadian Cousins. WHO KNOWS but you did as for guesses "Scratchy"

[Soapboxmom]

News | NewAgeU (http://www.newageu.com/)

That joke of a site is dead as a doornail.

As to Bogdan Fiedur's Adlandpro packages, his forum is dying a painful death as the traffic continues to plummet. Bogdan takes on Sara, Judy and I and right down the commode he goes. Well over 60,000 unique visitors 2 years ago to the laughable and paltry 17,000 his cesspool is getting now tells to whole story! This open discussion site and anti-scam forum is surpassing him very quickly and we have only been around for 2 1/2 years compared to Adlandpro's 14 years of existence.

A little coal in the stocking for Boggy boy and his merry henchmen! Is Diane Bjorling going to keep publicly singing his praises and get a thread of her own here???

[okosh]

What business opportunities has anybody seen on advertised on Adlandpro recently?


Recently??.....What legitamate business opportunities has anyone seen there in the last 14years?????....

[path2prosperity]

Recently??.....What legitamate business opportunities has anyone seen there in the last 14years?????....

My mistake. One or two advertised legitimate products and services in the early years but they were few and far between.

[okosh]

My mistake. One or two advertised legitimate products and services in the early years but they were few and far between.

Been just a scam pimping referal farm ever since I first seen it in 2006....

[scratchycat]

Thanks guys for all you foresight and wisdom. Enjoying the time with my sons and no time for being online. I hope all of you who celebrate Christmas have a wonderful time with family and loved ones. It is sad to see how these people seem to worship their leader and think Adlandpro is Heaven and they will live forever there in their paradise. However, there will be no one to scam so what are they going to do???

Best wishes to all!!

[scratchycat]

adlandpro.com UVs for November 2012 | Compete (http://siteanalytics.compete.com/adlandpro.com/)

Bogdan's traffic like Scam.com's is going completely down the commode. His traffic plunged 40% this year. So much for his business brilliance, huh Bjorling??? In fact this much newer site, my beloved RS, has more reads than the cesspool Bogdan owns!

:RpS_wink: realscam.com UVs for November 2012 | Compete (http://siteanalytics.compete.com/realscam.com/)


Thanks for these links! Just love these pictures!2436

2437

[scratchycat]

So much for that link and icon credited by Trustwave.

https://www.trustwave.com/trustedCommerce.php

You can BUY anything these days!

[scratchycat]

community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2587181/It-is-time-to-nominate-your-favorite-of-this-years-POTW-Award-Winners-for-POTY/4.aspx: It is time to nominate your favorite of this year's POTW Award Winners for POTY

12/21/2012 7:09:49 PM

Let me try one more time please as again my intention is not to offend anyone. This picture is much better for a non-member and also a deceased who I recommend for POTY. As I said, just kidding but in my opinion just like Jill Bachmann, this special lady also deserves recognition somewhere whether in a separate thread or forum or whatever on or off ALP as a POTY, ok? Thanks everyone for your input on this topic.

He really must have had his head in the sand back when...

Not my intention to talk about the dead in anyway disrespectful but honestly I suppose she would be the one for the crown because she just might have taken more money from members than any other throughout the years. She was really good at getting people to sign up for all the programs she promoted even up to her dying day. God bless the family.

[scratchycat]

community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2527380/AdlandPro-Discussions-and-Information-Thread/7.aspx

Actually this one is too ridiculous to even comment on...

[scratchycat]

community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2589074/Gift-for-you-for-the-New-Year-2013/1.aspx

Many, many gifts just say "Yes, I volunteer to be an advertiser and promoter of Adlandpro"!! You do have a way to get people to do your dirty work.

[scratchycat]

Advertising has taken on a new role:

community.adlandpro.com/stores.aspx

Can you find any of your favorite scams???:shocked:

[path2prosperity]

So much for that link and icon credited by Trustwave.

https://www.trustwave.com/trustedCommerce.php

You can BUY anything these days!

Not sure what to make of this trust site "scratchy" but if you click the link to the Trusted Commerce link it leads to some sort of food producer'site that I thought was an American MLM. Please could somebody in US correct me, if I am wrong

JerkyNet (http://www.jerkynet.com/store/)

Quote


"The Trusted Commerce seal assures your visitors that your web site is secure and results in increased conversions. When displayed, the seal indicates that your business has taken security measures to protect customer credit card numbers and other sensitive information such as social security numbers.
"The Trusted Commerce seal demonstrates the steps I have taken to protect my customers, which helps them feel more confident about shopping on my web sites. It is the one seal that displays everything about securing my customers' information: my web sites' PCI DSS compliance and the use of a Trustwave SSL certificate to encrypt credit card information."
Dave Taylor, CEO, newgrowth.com and jerkynet.com."

[path2prosperity]

community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2587181/It-is-time-to-nominate-your-favorite-of-this-years-POTW-Award-Winners-for-POTY/4.aspx: It is time to nominate your favorite of this year's POTW Award Winners for POTY

12/21/2012 7:09:49 PM

Let me try one more time please as again my intention is not to offend anyone. This picture is much better for a non-member and also a deceased who I recommend for POTY. As I said, just kidding but in my opinion just like Jill Bachmann, this special lady also deserves recognition somewhere whether in a separate thread or forum or whatever on or off ALP as a POTY, ok? Thanks everyone for your input on this topic.

He really must have had his head in the sand back when...

Not my intention to talk about the dead in anyway disrespectful but honestly I suppose she would be the one for the crown because she just might have taken more money from members than any other throughout the years. She was really good at getting people to sign up for all the programs she promoted even up to her dying day. God bless the family.

I do not think that Jill scammed quite as much as Carol Salisbury. The pair of them tried their best to deny the fact that they were partners who were promoting AdSurfDaily as a team on Adlandpro. I have sent evidence of that and evidence of a few people who were sponsored by that pair to Eagle and SBM. Scamland can not delete any evidence and if anybody wishes to see if they can get any funds back from MS Salisbury they had better start reporting her and her deceased partner to the right authourities.

[path2prosperity]

community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2589074/Gift-for-you-for-the-New-Year-2013/1.aspx

Many, many gifts just say "Yes, I volunteer to be an advertiser and promoter of Adlandpro"!! You do have a way to get people to do your dirty work.

That list is laugh and a half. Talk about the blind leading the blind! The most interesting aspect is so many the well known scammer's names that DO NOT APPEAR on the list. Some have the sense to know that it is better not to advertise the fact, that they are Scamland supporters or complete idiots.

[path2prosperity]

There are still a few who think that they can clean up Scamland.
I challenge anybody to try.

They should get Diane Bjorling and the new "affiliate manager" to sort out all the coffee drinking scams. I thought Michael Clayton's "Coffee with Aprodisiacs" brand was the most inane but Coffee Millions (http://tclandry.coffeemillions.com/income/) is one that could top the show.

Does anybody with to learn the greatest history lesson in the Internet era and make a fortune when all the best financial brains put their heads together to announce this crappy video

Coffee Millions History lessons (http://tclandry.coffeemillions.com/income/) or "Passion Coffee with Aprodisiacs (http://www.articlemarketing.ozyid.com/passioncoffee.html)"

Which of these two brands do Scamlanders prefer?

[scratchycat]

Not sure what to make of this trust site "scratchy" but if you click the link to the Trusted Commerce link it leads to some sort of food producer'site that I thought was an American MLM. Please could somebody in US correct me, if I am wrong

JerkyNet (http://www.jerkynet.com/store/)

Quote


"The Trusted Commerce seal assures your visitors that your web site is secure and results in increased conversions. When displayed, the seal indicates that your business has taken security measures to protect customer credit card numbers and other sensitive information such as social security numbers.
"The Trusted Commerce seal demonstrates the steps I have taken to protect my customers, which helps them feel more confident about shopping on my web sites. It is the one seal that displays everything about securing my customers' information: my web sites' PCI DSS compliance and the use of a Trustwave SSL certificate to encrypt credit card information."
Dave Taylor, CEO, newgrowth.com and jerkynet.com."


2439

The quoted comment was made by the CEO of these companies: JerkyNet and
NewGrowth, Don't send flowers , Share a Living Gift! (http://store.newgrowth.com/ng/)

They are also in Facebook.

[path2prosperity]

Advertising has taken on a new role:

community.adlandpro.com/stores.aspx

Can you find any of your favorite scams???:shocked:

The first on that list is Motro Club of America. Typo or has the cat been walking over the keyboard?

MCA-Motro Club of Americe Motor Club Offering More than A Basic Towing an Lock Out Service

2nd on list is somebody flogging another EZ product. EZ Article Creator.
type http:// www. then adlandpro.com/ad/1463407/EZ-Article-Creator.

3rd on list is a store in China. How many of BoggyBoy's members can speak Mandarin Chinese let alone any of the other dialects which would be reqired to moderate a forum on Adlandpro which needs fluent Polish and English speakers along with Mandarin and numerous other Chinese dialects.

[scratchycat]

For all those "promoters" of Adlandpro, here is just one of many ways the money is made. Ads such as this at the top of a page:

http://rachelkelders.vemma.com/

2443

[scratchycat]

And don't forget the Love Psychic!



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It only costs $30.00!!!

[scratchycat]

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[path2prosperity]

Scamlandpro are due to announce the winner of their POTY (Person of The Year) on Jan ist. Who will be the first to be hanged at the Hangout when the winner's name appears on their list?

For some fun guessing games type http:// then add

community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2535823/The-Hangout/1.aspx?latest=True#latestpost

[path2prosperity]

Hi Feedbackers or SCAMLANDERS?

The 100 Friend list is almost complete we have 97 Volunteers Bogdan and Dave can sort out who will be on the List.Once we have the 100 friends this list will be added to adlandpro.This way the new Adlandpro members will have 100 friends after signup if they choose to add us as friends.They have the option to pass on the offer.

We have a few more items to discuss.What takes priority besides 100 Friends

Adlandpro Credit Builder
Adlandpro Sleep Mode
Adlandpro Self Nomination

We are ready to add these features to Adlandpro once added this will help our members in the community aspect and to promote Adlandpro more than they have.
We will need new Adlandpro Splash Pages ready to send out to the massed.
We will need to link up with other communities to have Adlandpro on there main ad pages.
We will need Contact Personal working on these Features and Gathering these new Contacts from Marketing to Sports and everything in between.We need to have that Adlandpro link to the New Adlandpro Splash Page on Every site we can manage to work out a deal with.

We are not Screwing Around in 2013 this can be a huge turn around for Adlandpro If we can work together on The New Improved Adlandpro.

I am only a message away so if you want to keep in touch Message me.

Merry Christmas Happy New Year
Dennis

[Soapboxmom]

Hi Feedbackers or SCAMLANDERS?

The 100 Friend list is almost complete we have 97 Volunteers Bogdan and Dave can sort out who will be on the List.Once we have the 100 friends this list will be added to adlandpro.This way the new Adlandpro members will have 100 friends after signup if they choose to add us as friends.They have the option to pass on the offer.

We have a few more items to discuss.What takes priority besides 100 Friends

Adlandpro Credit Builder
Adlandpro Sleep Mode
Adlandpro Self Nomination

We are ready to add these features to Adlandpro once added this will help our members in the community aspect and to promote Adlandpro more than they have.
We will need new Adlandpro Splash Pages ready to send out to the massed.
We will need to link up with other communities to have Adlandpro on there main ad pages.
We will need Contact Personal working on these Features and Gathering these new Contacts from Marketing to Sports and everything in between.We need to have that Adlandpro link to the New Adlandpro Splash Page on Every site we can manage to work out a deal with.

We are not Screwing Around in 2013 this can be a huge turn around for Adlandpro If we can work together on The New Improved Adlandpro.

I am only a message away so if you want to keep in touch Message me.

Merry Christmas Happy New Year
Dennis:pao::shocked::pt:

[phfroilton]

For all those "promoters" of Adlandpro, here is just one of many ways the money is made. Ads such as this at the top of a page:

http://rachelkelders.vemma.com/

2443

Hello Scratchycat. I apologize; I am new here. Please tell me what is wrong with that ad?

Thank you.

P.H. Froilton

[path2prosperity]

WHERE ARE THOSE WHO WISH TO CLEAN UP SCAMLAND IN 2013?


With Friends Like Don Evans, Does Adlandpro Need Enemies?


Dare to Dream Again by Don Evans.

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2590136/2013-Chalenge-Dare-To-Dream-Again.aspx?flag=1

Quote

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NOTE: I can't include an attachment here at adlandpro. Send me an email and I will respond to it with the attachment.

That conference call is going to outline a simply little plan that will show you how YOU can be earning $10,000 per month or more within 90 days from now!

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(719) 390-0561 hbndon@juno.com
Send me that email so I can respond with the conference attachment. You DO NOT want to miss this!!!!!!!"

[path2prosperity]

When will Scamland's much lauded new affiliate manager or anybody on their 100 volunteer helper list show that they have any influence with BoggyBoy?

Why do none of these gutless individuals do something to prevent slime balls like Simsha Marketing and his partner ripping of newbies at Adlandpro.

Do BoggyBoy's 100 volunteers swallow this crap? I am ashamed of the lot of you who allow this sort of thing.

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[path2prosperity]

It looks as if Kathleen VanBeekom has deleted her "List Your Biz Opps Here" forum from Scamlandpro.

Getting nervous Kathleen? You certainly should be.

Where is your mate Ron Walsh? Has EZ Wealth changed hands? Is EZ owned by Mira Grecu now?

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[scratchycat]

Hi Feedbackers or SCAMLANDERS?

The 100 Friend list is almost complete we have 97 Volunteers Bogdan and Dave can sort out who will be on the List.Once we have the 100 friends this list will be added to adlandpro.This way the new Adlandpro members will have 100 friends after signup if they choose to add us as friends.They have the option to pass on the offer.

We have a few more items to discuss.What takes priority besides 100 Friends

Adlandpro Credit Builder
Adlandpro Sleep Mode
Adlandpro Self Nomination

We are ready to add these features to Adlandpro once added this will help our members in the community aspect and to promote Adlandpro more than they have.
We will need new Adlandpro Splash Pages ready to send out to the massed.
We will need to link up with other communities to have Adlandpro on there main ad pages.
We will need Contact Personal working on these Features and Gathering these new Contacts from Marketing to Sports and everything in between.We need to have that Adlandpro link to the New Adlandpro Splash Page on Every site we can manage to work out a deal with.

We are not Screwing Around in 2013 this can be a huge turn around for Adlandpro If we can work together on The New Improved Adlandpro.

I am only a message away so if you want to keep in touch Message me.

Merry Christmas Happy New Year
Dennis

Can't say as I LIKE this but thanks for posting. Glad to see they are not going to "s*rew" around this year!!! They are really going to get serious about this Scamland promotion!! Great!! Will bring more attention and exposure!

[path2prosperity]

Who Is This Scamlander "Work From Home For Life"


Get to work all members of the 100 volunteers who have pledged to help BoggyBoy clean up Scamland sewers. Do you enjoy seeing crap like this floating around in your new clean abode?

Quote

"This is Huge and the pay plan is amazing! Think About Your 2013 Resolution!
12/24/2012 11:46:40 AM


Scamlander Work From Home For Life.

Type http:// then add community.adlandpro.com/members/workfromhomegal.aspx

[scratchycat]

Hello Scratchycat. I apologize; I am new here. Please tell me what is wrong with that ad?

Thank you.

P.H. Froilton

New huh? One of Adland's new promoters joining us? Welcome. It is another MLM and they are never good for anyone.

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[scratchycat]

Oh dear, Don is dreaming again... I wonder if he has ever made a dime off these "programs" he signs up with!

[scratchycat]

It looks as if Kathleen VanBeekom has deleted her "List Your Biz Opps Here" forum from Scamlandpro.

Getting nervous Kathleen? You certainly should be.

Where is your mate Ron Walsh? Has EZ Wealth changed hands? Is EZ owned by Mira Grecu now?

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Yes, she is hiding behind the safety of Adlandpro but still doing her fishing for new suckers.

[path2prosperity]

Yes, she is hiding behind the safety of Adlandpro but still doing her fishing for new suckers.

The fact that she has deleted her business opportunities forum, where she allowed most Scamland con atrists to advertise their wares speaks volumes. If she thinks that deleting that from Scamland means that all the evidence against her is deleted, she has another think coming.

RS have autosaved copies of almost all the scams and ponzis which she has posted in that crappy forum and she can not hide behind Ron Walsh now. Who is Mira Greco who has replaced WalshyBoy as main EZpromoter boys and girls?

Perhaps she has been advised to clean up her act in order to be made Scamland's Person of The Year.

[path2prosperity]

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[okosh]

WHERE ARE THOSE WHO WISH TO CLEAN UP SCAMLAND IN 2013?


Yes...Where is klagoosh??......

.

Thank you for the heads up, scratchy. I will be looking for the very things you are speaking of, and any I find will be targeted for removal.

http://www.realscam.com/f9/scamlandpro-your-one-stop-site-all-scams-1276/index33.html#post34827

[okosh]

We are not Screwing Around in 2013 this can be a huge turn around for Adlandpro If we can work together on The New Improved Adlandpro.


How exactly do you improve a sewer?? :pt:

[littleroundman]

How exactly do you improve a sewer?? :pt:

Wall to wall carpeting ???

A new colour scheme ??

[path2prosperity]

Yes...Where is klagoosh??......

.


http://www.realscam.com/f9/scamlandpro-your-one-stop-site-all-scams-1276/index33.html#post34827

Klagoosh and all the rest of the Adland scum bags who joined us at RS are hiding under rocks trying to clean up any evidence against those whom they want to have a whitewash, so that they can get themselves or their favourite pawns elected as Person of The Year.

Where is VanBeekom's "List All Your Biz-Opps" Forum?" Even I have a few screenshots to show that ths forum existed with Danming evidence against Katleen. That forum existed and there is no way the Scamland volunteers or Klagoosh can clean up evidence of that. That forum is quoted is too many RS threads for any evidence of what the woman was promoting at Adlandpro.

Cleaning up Scamland is not deleting evidence of forums like MaryEvelyn's Zeek promotions, Carol Salisbury' AdSurfDaily threads or Jim Allen's Free food scams.

Myrna Ferguson and Nellie are useful pawns so I would not be surprised to see one of those two elected.

[path2prosperity]

How exactly do you improve a sewer?? :pt:

Send in operatives with superheated steam pumps and they probably add some thing like lysol to the mix!

If it is an online sewer send SBM, Eagle and PP to identify the various sewer rats when they are flushed out

London sewers are now a tourist attraction. I would rather like to go on a visit to see the superlative engineering work that has been done down there. It is reputed to be quite an exciting adventure tour and you can see the super size rats that exist there.

[okosh]

Wall to wall carpeting ???

A new colour scheme ??

I thought brown and yellow were the only options??...

[path2prosperity]

Wall to wall carpeting ???

A new colour scheme ??

The London ones which they show to tourists have all been painted white LRM. I don't know what colour the rats are but I may take a tour on day and tell you all about it.

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[scratchycat]

Yes...Where is klagoosh??......

.


http://www.realscam.com/f9/scamlandpro-your-one-stop-site-all-scams-1276/index33.html#post34827

mmmmm.... I believe he and Diane are the ones loading up with Lysol and maybe some Clorox...


Adlandpro | Scoop.it (http://www.scoop.it/t/adlandpro)

[path2prosperity]

mmmmm.... I believe he and Diane are the ones loading up with Lysol and maybe some Clorox...


Adlandpro | Scoop.it (http://www.scoop.it/t/adlandpro)

Perhaps their idea of cleaning up Adlandpro means to cleaning up all the evidence against major scam promoters. Who deleted Kathleen VanBeekom's "List All Your Biz-opps" Forum? Why was it deleted?

It is highly unlikely that Dave or Diane are unaware of the shady opps which Kathleen advertised on that forum or that Kathleen posed as a Government contractor. They are nothing more than BoggyBoy pawns who do his dirty work and make no comments about the diabolical attempts to white wash scamming scum like Kathleen.

[path2prosperity]

mmmmm.... I believe he and Diane are the ones loading up with Lysol and maybe some Clorox...


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[scratchycat]

It is still there P2P, you just have to be a member to see it now:

community.adlandpro.com/forums/forum/14638/List-All-Your-Biz-Sites-Here.aspx

found this interesting though from 2009!!

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She is still at it and has been for a very long time!

[scratchycat]

Actually, that is a little too much to start off a New Year! Yuk!

Let them all scam each other until they take off for the GateKeepers as channeled in the tribute mountain. It is enough to make a person ill.

:Fiddler:

[path2prosperity]

It is still there P2P, you just have to be a member to see it now:



I had not thought of that "scratchy". Only members can see the little scammer's come ons can they? We both have friends who are Adlandpro members and give us the low down on anything we want to read on Scamland.

Private forums at Scamland. My backside!

[klagoosh]

Klagoosh and all the rest of the Adland scum bags who joined us at RS are hiding under rocks trying to clean up any evidence against those whom they want to have a whitewash, so that they can get themselves or their favourite pawns elected as Person of The Year.

Where is VanBeekom's "List All Your Biz-Opps" Forum?" Even I have a few screenshots to show that ths forum existed with Danming evidence against Katleen. That forum existed and there is no way the Scamland volunteers or Klagoosh can clean up evidence of that. That forum is quoted is too many RS threads for any evidence of what the woman was promoting at Adlandpro.

Cleaning up Scamland is not deleting evidence of forums like MaryEvelyn's Zeek promotions, Carol Salisbury' AdSurfDaily threads or Jim Allen's Free food scams.

Myrna Ferguson and Nellie are useful pawns so I would not be surprised to see one of those two elected.

So now I am a scum bag? I think you got it wrong, Judy. It is not that this "Adlander" is hiding under a rock; it is that you invited me here because your old punching bag must have been worn out. If you want to continue bashing a man who has just started back into the online world, go ahead. People who know me know I constantly send warnings to people who promote junk. The difference is, I don't waste time preaching to the choir on a sad little site like this one Heather's hubby has saddled himself with, but email those people directly, including those who pitch me on Adlandpro.com and anywhere else. This is what I have always done, and will continue to do.

The reason I have not been here is simply because it is not a productive way for me to deal with anything. Not too many people are paying attention to this site. That said, there ARE some good people on RS, but it is not necessary to come here to read their observations, findings, and warnings.

[baylee]

So now I am a scum bag? I think you got it wrong, Judy. It is not that this "Adlander" is hiding under a rock; it is that you invited me here because your old punching bag must have been worn out. If you want to continue bashing a man who has just started back into the online world, go ahead. People who know me know I constantly send warnings to people who promote junk. The difference is, I don't waste time preaching to the choir on a sad little site like this one Heather's hubby has saddled himself with, but email those people directly, including those who pitch me on Adlandpro.com and anywhere else. This is what I have always done, and will continue to do.

The reason I have not been here is simply because it is not a productive way for me to deal with anything. Not too many people are paying attention to this site. That said, there ARE some good people on RS, but it is not necessary to come here to read their observations, findings, and warnings.

I have looked at your posts here and your actions there with your new title and all but so far all I see is all talk and no action. The scales of justice do not tilt your way!

[Soapboxmom]

klagoosh,

No offense intended, but it is abundantly clear Bogdan Fiedur has no intention of cleaning that cesspool up as his real income is from the scammers advertising on there. The obvious scammers are still busy posting away all their cash gifting scams, pyramid schemes and all the rest of the crap. Nothing has changed. I don't think you have nearly the gargantuan size shovel needed for the job. Good luck over yonder!

[klagoosh]

klagoosh,

No offense intended, but it is abundantly clear Bogdan Fiedur has no intention of cleaning that cesspool up as his real income is from the scammers advertising on there. The obvious scammers are still busy posting away all their cash gifting scams, pyramid schemes and all the rest of the crap. Nothing has changed. I don't think you have nearly the gargantuan size shovel needed for the job. Good luck over yonder!

So, that makes it ok for someone to call me a scum bag? Come on, Heather. If the internet has not been cleaned up since Realscam went live, does that make everyone here "scum bags" because they have not yet succeeded? It hasn't even been a month since I started as Adlandpro's affiliate manager, a 3 hour per day undertaking, as A.) I am a pastor, albeit of a small church, and B.) I really am in my fifth year with Lyme disease and told Bogdan I cannot commit to more than that. Rome was not built in a day. I personally believe that Bogdan really does want to do a full overhaul, as that makes very good business sense. But it is not a ten minute job.

[okosh]

It hasn't even been a month since I started as Adlandpro's affiliate manager, a 3 hour per day undertaking,

So how many threads, adds, and the like for scams have you removed since you started??.....

[okosh]

Not too many people are paying attention to this site.

You need to check your facts.....Scamaland been going 5-6 times as long as realscam yet the traffic, page views etc show that realscam is doing just great and that it's scamaland that not too many people are paying attention to these days compared to the past....

[path2prosperity]

So, that makes it ok for someone to call me a scum bag?

I called you a scum bag because you know Adlandpro promotes just about every scam and ponzi on the net and you promote Adlandpro Gold Member Program as a legitimate way to earn money. How can you offer such a dubious money earner on the world wide web and say that you are trying to clean the place up?

You are in BoggyBoy's inner circle and that fact alone is enough for many of us to think that you are nothing but a scum bag. How much do you earn from his gold program which you promote to try and earn money from such a corrupt organization Dave?

[Lil Ol' Radical Me]

So, that makes it ok for someone to call me a scum bag? Come on, Heather. If the internet has not been cleaned up since Realscam went live, does that make everyone here "scum bags" because they have not yet succeeded? It hasn't even been a month since I started as Adlandpro's affiliate manager, a 3 hour per day undertaking, as A.) I am a pastor, albeit of a small church, and B.) I really am in my fifth year with Lyme disease and told Bogdan I cannot commit to more than that. Rome was not built in a day. I personally believe that Bogdan really does want to do a full overhaul, as that makes very good business sense. But it is not a ten minute job.

I am also sorry if you have been offended. I guess that, whilst cleaning up Adland makes excellent business sense and is not a ten minute job, some of us here seriously doubt Bogdan Fiedur's sincerity in overhauling his site and therein lies the difference between us. Nothing over the past five years has indicated any intention of this kind, and you, yourself, must be aware of many failed attempts by members in the past to do just that. In fact it's owner has rarely permitted any criticism of the scams he has permitted on his site and has taken positive action to squash objective criticism many times. His recent attack on Real Scam was laughable and more representative of the behaviour we have become acustomed to from ponzi shills, not serious businessmen.

Yup, sometimes people are a little rough here. I guess, again, it is because they are sick and tired of seeing the same old same old HYIP, ponzi, dodgy MLM rubbish flogged to the naive and innocent by the same old same old cast of scammers and their cheerleaders who post there - protected on that forum known as AdlandPro.

[scratchycat]

So, that makes it ok for someone to call me a scum bag? Come on, Heather. If the internet has not been cleaned up since Realscam went live, does that make everyone here "scum bags" because they have not yet succeeded? It hasn't even been a month since I started as Adlandpro's affiliate manager, a 3 hour per day undertaking, as A.) I am a pastor, albeit of a small church, and B.) I really am in my fifth year with Lyme disease and told Bogdan I cannot commit to more than that. Rome was not built in a day. I personally believe that Bogdan really does want to do a full overhaul, as that makes very good business sense. But it is not a ten minute job.

Sorry that you have been offended Dave. While I realize to some extent what you have accepted to do for Bogdan but you just can't have it both ways. Living with an illness is difficult for all of us but using it as an excuse is not a good idea. It does not excuse the fact of you seeing what is right and what is wrong. You say you are a pastor, yet you want to overlook all the crime being promoted in Adlandpro and try to help make it a legitimate business? It is nothing more than an advertising board with a few extras thrown in. Follow the money trail Dave, do you believe making millions from trying to sell MLM, pyramid and Ponzi schemes, get rich quick scams and any other 'program' out there is the right way to go? I realize Adland is just one of many sites who do the same thing. Do you actually think they can be 'cleaned up'? No, that is way the money is made.

You feel you have received harsh treatment here, there could be a reason for that. You joined here at the invitation of another member and we welcomed you. All of us treat situations differently and I know at times my claws get a little too sharp but I try to stick to facts. The fact is you either choose to fight against cyber crime or you promote it. You have made a decision to work with Adlandpro and promote it. That is your choice. With that decision you are giving a stamp of approval on all the 'scum' that is promoted and advertised there.

Bogdan was a friend of mine also. I really liked and still do like him but he would not defend me against my enemies and I had had enough. Now I realize you are playing a similar role that I played back when and I do understand. Having had a chance to stand back and see the place in a different light (without the rose-colored glasses), I see all the ugliness behind the 'fake' friendships and glitter forums. Contrary to what some may say, I have no spies there who report to me. I still call a few friends but when it comes down to it - are they??? I just recently lost one as you are aware and it was because of the attraction of Scamland.

You may not feel a desire to hang around here after making your choice but you could be an asset because of your knowledge and awareness of many fraudulent programs out there that need to be exposed.

I suppose I have said enough for one morning. :RpS_smile:

[scratchycat]

I had not thought of that "scratchy". Only members can see the little scammer's come ons can they? We both have friends who are Adlandpro members and give us the low down on anything we want to read on Scamland.

Private forums at Scamland. My backside!

From what I am seeing at this point P2P, I have no friends in Scamland. If you want to keep up with kcvan just do a Google search, it is all there. She is small stuff as far as I am concerned but still :watching_you:

[Soapboxmom]

So, that makes it ok for someone to call me a scum bag? Come on, Heather. If the internet has not been cleaned up since Realscam went live, does that make everyone here "scum bags" because they have not yet succeeded? It hasn't even been a month since I started as Adlandpro's affiliate manager, a 3 hour per day undertaking, as A.) I am a pastor, albeit of a small church, and B.) I really am in my fifth year with Lyme disease and told Bogdan I cannot commit to more than that. Rome was not built in a day. I personally believe that Bogdan really does want to do a full overhaul, as that makes very good business sense. But it is not a ten minute job.
Having been called every name in the book for exposing obvious and possible scams, I have a thick skin. You are getting grief for one thing alone. You are working for a forum still littered with prostitution ads, cash gifting schemes, forex scams, questionable MLMs, and much more garbage. Nothing has changed. It isn't going to. Fiedur is not going to send Maurice Bernier, Kathleen VanBeekom and all the rest packing no matter how obvious it is their schemes are
just plain illegal or truly uneconomic.

Bogdan Fiedur started several slam sites and threads attacking this site himself or enlisted his lying goon squad to do the dirty deed. He conjured up fake UCLA students and conversed with them knowing it was all a con. He, Kathleen and Maurice made up criminal statutes and continually threatened this site and its members with criminal prosecution. Fieder sunk as low as to hire a high dollar London solicitor to threaten an elderly woman who has had serious health challenges. I had to dispatch with that clown myself. Fiedur was harassing folks who had rightly pointed out what a cesspool Adlandpro really is. It is all well documented here. So, in the grand scheme of things you are working for a threatening goon, liar and complete fraud. Don't expect that to be smooth sailing. Every choice has consequences. The job you have chosen is controversial and there is no escaping that. I personally would have nothing to do with slime like Fiedur.

Maybe, you will prove us all wrong and turn Adlandpro into a site that we could respect, but as Bogdan Fiedur is out to make money I wouldn't count on it. It causes me to imagine a very determined bloke trying to bail the Titanic with a 1 gallon bucket. When the dollar signs rear their ugly heads, they tend to rule the roost such as it is.

This is nothing personal with you. It is a matter of the baggage that comes from associating with Bogdan Fiedur. Insults within reason are allowed here. Excessive foul language or the like is not tolerated. I hope you will feel welcome here. I am happy to disagree and do value your input here. All viewpoints are welcome.

Either way all my best to you personally Dave!

[path2prosperity]

in the grand scheme of things you are working for a threatening goon, liar and complete fraud.

Dave is well aware that if BoggyBoy deleted all Adlandpro members who were promoting ponzis and frauds, he would have no members. I know Dave knows that because he sent me an e-mail stating that fact.

Dave knows every program on Adlandpro is illegal yet he sells BoggyBoy's gold member program. He know what a sewer Adlandpro is and acts as an affiliate for the advertising program.

If Dave has sold Adlandpro gold membership to anybody reading this, I strongly suggest that he or she tries to get the money back from Dave.

[Soapboxmom]

Dave is well aware that if BoggyBoy deleted all Adlandpro members who were promoting ponzis and frauds, he would have no members. I know Dave knows that because he sent me an e-mail stating that fact.

Dave knows every program on Adlandpro is illegal yet he sells BoggyBoy's gold member program. He know what a sewer Adlandpro is and acts as an affiliate for the advertising program.

If Dave has sold Adlandpro gold membership to anybody reading this, I strongly suggest that he or she tries to get the money back from Dave.
If Adlandpro was cleaned up there would certainly be a noticeable reduction in members. And, not every program is illegal, but there are certainly some that are illegal and a number that are uneconomic schemes at best. Those are certainly not things I would want on a website I frequented.

Hopefully, anyone that paid money to that cesspool did so with their eyes wide open to the reputation it has acquired. I can't imagine that legitimate advertisers would not want any association with the place. With the traffic plummeting, even scammers could do much better elsewhere.

We should wish Dave good luck. I do believe we is going to need it.

[scratchycat]

For all our work here and protests from some supporters of Adlandpro, the proof is in the pudding.

All American Badass (http://simple2advertise.com/c/?u=Robbie&c=badass&ad=adldban)

2511

simpletoadvertise

[scratchycat]

On that same page you find this ad:

Disclosures:
Discount Medical Plan Organization:
New Benefits, Ltd.
Attn: Compliance Department
PO Box 671309
Dallas, TX 75367-1309
800-800-7616

Coast to Coast Vision™ and UHS Chiropractic™ are owned and operated by New Benefits, Ltd.

This plan is NOT insurance. This plan does not make payments directly to the providers of medical services. The plan member is obligated to pay for all healthcare services but will receive a discount from those healthcare providers who have contracted with the discount plan organization. This plan provides discounts at certain healthcare providers for medical services. The range of discounts for medical or ancillary services provided under the plan will vary depending on the type of provider and medical or ancillary service received. The discount medical card program makes available, before purchase and upon request, a list of program providers, including the name, city, state, and specialty of each program provider located in the cardholder's service area.

This discount card program contains a 30 day cancellation period.

FL, LA, MS, ND, OK, RI, SC, SD and TX residents: Member shall receive a full refund of membership fees, excluding registration fee, if membership is cancelled within the first 30 days after the effective date. AR and TN residents: A refund of all fees will be issued if membership is cancelled within the first 30 days. MD Residents: The membership fee and one-time registration fee (minus $5.00) will be refunded if canceled within the first 30 days and upon return of the discount card. MA Residents: The plan is not insurance coverage and does not meet the minimum creditable coverage requirements under M.G.L. c. 111M and 956 CMR 5.00.

Regulated discount benefits are not available in the state of Washington, at this time.

WA residents: If a member cancels his or her membership in the discount plan organization within the first thirty days after the date of receipt of the written documents for the discount plan, the member must receive a reimbursement of all periodic charges upon return of the discount plan card to the discount plan organization.
1.(A) Cancellation occurs when notice of cancellation is given to the discount plan organization. (B) Notice of cancellation is given when delivered by hand or deposited in a mailbox, properly addressed and postage prepaid to the mailing address of the discount plan organization, or e-mailed to the e-mail address of the discount plan organization.
2.(A) discount plan organization shall return in full any periodic charge charged or collected after the member has given the discount plan organization notice of cancellation. (B) If the discount plan organization cancels a membership for any reason other than nonpayment of charges by the member, the discount plan organization shall make a pro rata reimbursement of all periodic charges to the member.

If a resident of the state of Washington remains dissatisfied after completing the organization's complaint process, the plan member may contact the office of the insurance commissioner at:

Washington Office of the Insurance Commissioner
P.O. Box 40256
Olympia, WA 98504-0256
800-562-6900
Washington State Office of the Insurance Commissioner (http://www.insurance.wa.gov)

Internet website address to obtain participating providers is home.locateproviders.com.

For Terms and Conditions, click here.

Xpress Healthcare | Home (http://healthylifestyles.xpressabo.com/go2/)

Would you sign up for insurance like this after reading their fine print disclosure?

[scratchycat]

Here is another one -
Made $4,000,000 (yes,MILLION) in sales in
4 months (without picking up the phone)
Helped thousands of "average" people
make their first sale online (with a brand
new "no selling" approach)
Will be the one thing you do this year
that will make you the most money online
(we'll show you why - and you'll love it)

We'll show you everything including PROOF inside.
Enter your email below for immediate access...


Anyone interested in that come on?

Empower network (http://www.maxresidualincome.com/) the title shows up Empower Network - sound familiar??

[scratchycat]

They are all one big happy family!!!

https://www.facebook.com/AdlandproClassifieds/posts/584837041532588

Happy Holidays and 2013 from Bogdan Fiedur at Adlandpro - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Fx0iRM-Wuo&feature=youtu.be)

Now just why do we question the validity of classified ads??

Happy New Year!

[path2prosperity]

Hopefully, anyone that paid money to that cesspool did so with their eyes wide open to the reputation it has acquired.


If anybody is considering paying a monthly fee to become a member of Adlandpro Gold Member Program, they should go in to that with eyes open. You can ask your upline for your money back, if you feel that he or she has sold you a duff deal. I tried the program in 2003 and discovered that it was a complete rip off.

[scratchycat]

If anybody is considering paying a monthly fee to become a member of Adlandpro Gold Member Program, they should go in to that with eyes open. You can ask your upline for your money back, if you feel that he or she has sold you a duff deal. I tried the program in 2003 and discovered that it was a complete rip off.

Some of them make money off it now, at least I have been told so. I never made enough to receive payment! However, if a person promotes the website, they promote all the ads that bring in the money.

[path2prosperity]

Some of them make money off it now, at least I have been told so. I never made enough to receive payment! However, if a person promotes the website, they promote all the ads that bring in the money.

I joined the Gold member program when I was a newbie in 2003. I promoted it for a day or two before I realized that it was a complete waste of money and stopped promoting it. I find it very odd than anybody with experience can fail to see that it is a complete rip off. Perhaps Dave or another Adlandpro Gold members can present any arguments to show that it is value for money.

I find it hard to believe that anybody who promotes this junk gold member program can be considered to be impartial when commenting on Adlandpro. Any of Adland's gold member promoters make themselves very suspect when they claim to be helping clean up Adlandpro.

[path2prosperity]

When will Dave or Dianne start complaining to BoggyBoy about this sort of CRAP and show that they have any influence with the man at all?

QUOTE

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[path2prosperity]

Moreof the same rubbidh fro Adlander Christine Tuller authout op the post above.

I would like to send out an invitation to all members and request feedback on what you think about it. Everyone is looking for success. Most of us are looking for personal development training. With this you can achieve both.

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New

Christine Tuller

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/members/ctuller74.aspx

[okosh]

So, that makes it ok for someone to call me a scum bag?

If the cap fits....

[okosh]

[COLOR="#0000CD"]Sorry that you have been offended Dave.

I'm not sorry.....Like I said to Diane....You sleep with dogs you wake with fleas.....And Dave has chosen to sleep with dogs.....

[path2prosperity]

I'm not sorry.....Like I said to Diane....You sleep with dogs you wake with fleas.....And Dave has chosen to sleep with dogs.....

And sewer rats! Those two have sold out to "Mamon" or some other false idol. I do not know if Diane is one of BoggyBoy's Gold Program members or promoters but plenty of you do. If she is not, she can come over here and inform us that she has not sunk that low.

[path2prosperity]

From what I am seeing at this point P2P, I have no friends in Scamland. If you want to keep up with kcvan just do a Google search, it is all there. She is small stuff as far as I am concerned but still :watching_you:

Their private forum leaks like a garden sieve so there are plenty of friends that pass on news to all RS members in Adlandpro without our knowing the source of information.