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If you thought things were sickening in Scamland - look again! Now LaNell is featuring the Top Scammers and their "programs" in a gushy friendly forum.

community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2570367/Introducing-a-Friend-and-their-About-Me-page-Ken-Wolff/1.aspx

Maybe they will all buy into each other's scam and see who takes whose money the fastest!! Just can't top the scammers in scamland.:pou:

That is so true "scratchy". Even TalkGold won't defend Scamland or Scamlanders any longer. Look at the posts in TalkGold WarZone Scamlanders. They are wondering whose dirty knickers are on sale this Christmas in your forum.

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Probably not LaNell but I would "guess" that someone backed up the owner of AdKreator, Barbara G.

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I was sorry to see this...

Barbara shows some signs of being genuine but I think more DD is needed. Perhaps kasey chang can find out something more about her activities. He doesn't miss many things.

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Has anybody heard of wom sites wom banners, or wom webinars?
One who has is, Rudi Vanhaecke. He gives you his Scamland assurance here.. I just found out how to earn a second paycheck. It is all about wom products. Are you impressed by wom products or the promoter?

You were referred by
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How to make a second income plus promoters mug shot and twenty six of his advertisments on Scamlandpro

type http:// www then (dot) adlandpro.com/ad/1166380/I-just-found-out-how-to-earn-a-second-paycheck.aspx?index=0&total=26&

Rudi Vanhaecke

type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/members/63736.aspx

Rudi's Recommended Money Earning Webinar. (http://womvegas.com/worlds-shortest-webinar.php?id=20)

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Yes, I have heard of Wom will have to do some checking.

[Whip]

Yes, I have heard of Wom will have to do some checking.

Isn't that where babies come from?

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Isn't that where babies come from?

You have to put the b on it to make it make a Baby!! :RpS_lol:

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Swom Group: WELCOME TO WOM VEGAS ! - Swom.com (http://swom.com/groups/4258-welcome-to-wom-vegas-)

Oh shucks, I know that guy but his name I cannot remember right now. He is in Adland and been promoting this a long time.

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Here is more of what you were referring to P2P, it is on Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/WomVegas-Banner-Advertising/132797866819179

Looks like a total scam advertising page.

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Just can't help but check in on that Scammer of the Week deal still creeping along with so few participating - why bother!? When you have the "Gang" defending it better look out as to who is now RUNNING it since Barry is no longer there. Also, please note some members have not caught on yet. :duh:


community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2572226/Vote-for-the-344TH-POTW-Your-Vote-Is-Appreciated.aspx?flag=12Sorry Barry,
Won't vote this week because I am not familiar with any of the nominees.
Good luck all!!!!
Take care,

Jo

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RE: Vote for the 344TH POTW Your Vote Is Appreciated

10/12/2012 6:38:10 PM

SAME
FOR
ME
Pat
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I voted!

How can anyone refuse to vote for the entire week on the first day the ballot is posted? Everyone has a week to contact all 4 nominees and get to know them! Or look at their forum posts thru their profile and read anything they've posted in forums recently and get an idea of who they are.

One of them was a winner last year, how can anyone say they are unfamiliar with ALL nominees when one was well-known enough a year ago to win?
Kathleen
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More ignorance from petty folks I see. You have a week to make friends. (There he blows, Bully of the Week!) Just had to add that!!
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I found out who the folks are by visiting their profiles.
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Well now since little Jimbo is telling everyone how petty they are, let's see what his latest is:


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Swom Group: WELCOME TO WOM VEGAS ! - Swom.com (http://swom.com/groups/4258-welcome-to-wom-vegas-)

Oh shucks, I know that guy but his name I cannot remember right now. He is in Adland and been promoting this a long time.

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He is a Brit from Devon and I always thought he was dodgy. LORM knew him when she was In Adland. I will try to find his name but LORM may beat me to it. He was an MLM guy and I did not get involved in MLMs

I think he was involved in the Ambulance Service in UK so his comments on Jimbo's sites could be very revealing.

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The mugshot is that of Robert Vaughn a Scamlander from Devon UK. He may be unaware of Scamland stench but it is hard to believe that old timers are that naive.

Robert Vaugn's Recommended Programs (http://swom.com/people/43648-robert-vaughan)

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The mugshot is that of Robert Vaughn a Scamlander from Devon UK. He may be unaware of Scamland stench but it is hard to believe that old timers are that naive.

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Oh, yes, I remember, thanks! He is also a singer and travels to lots of counties if my memory is correct. If he does any scam, it would be little I think. I don't connect him with Jimbo except maybe friend's list.

I just added that thing about the POTW because I really do think those people are funny and act like a bunch of Kindergarten children.

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He is a Brit from Devon and I always thought he was dodgy. LORM knew him when she was In Adland. I will try to find his name but LORM may beat me to it. He was an MLM guy and I did not get involved in MLMs

I think he was involved in the Ambulance Service in UK so his comments on Jimbo's sites could be very revealing.

Seems that I have mixed this man up with another Scamlander who left a long time ago. We need ex Adlanders who were not involved in perpetrating scams on Adlanpro to join us at RS and I hope that we can recruit more to join us here.

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Seems that I have mixed this man up with another Scamlander who left a long time ago. We need ex Adlanders who were not involved in perpetrating scams on Adlanpro to join us at RS and I hope that we can recruit more to join us here.

I understand but after visiting his FB page today, I don't think so...

Wow! Brits must accept a lot more than us Americans do. I thought FB did not like nudity.

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Looks like the Zombie forum is about to go back under.



How can anyone refuse to vote for the entire week on the first day the ballot is posted? Everyone has a week to contact all 4 nominees and get to know them! Or look at their forum posts thru their profile and read anything they've posted in forums recently and get an idea of who they are.

One of them was a winner last year, how can anyone say they are unfamiliar with ALL nominees when one was well-known enough a year ago to win?
This quote from KCV, queen scammer of scamland.

They got a whopping 12 votes, with 7 going to the winner who is trying to survive scamland with a legitimate business.

Vote for the 344TH POTW Your Vote Is Appreciated | View Thread | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2572226/Vote-for-the-344TH-POTW-Your-Vote-Is-Appreciated.aspx?flag=14)

Here it is Friday and no new contest started. OMG!! The Team must be having problems...

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Looks like the Zombie forum is about to go back under.



How can anyone refuse to vote for the entire week on the first day the ballot is posted? Everyone has a week to contact all 4 nominees and get to know them! Or look at their forum posts thru their profile and read anything they've posted in forums recently and get an idea of who they are.

One of them was a winner last year, how can anyone say they are unfamiliar with ALL nominees when one was well-known enough a year ago to win?
This quote from KCV, queen scammer of scamland.

They got a whopping 12 votes, with 7 going to the winner who is trying to survive scamland with a legitimate business.

Vote for the 344TH POTW Your Vote Is Appreciated | View Thread | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2572226/Vote-for-the-344TH-POTW-Your-Vote-Is-Appreciated.aspx?flag=14)

Here it is Friday and no new contest started. OMG!! The Team must be having problems...

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This is the Number One FILTH thread and forum going on in Scamland. How on earth any decent people want to participate in a site that allows that kind of garbage is beyond me!!

Think I will rename it "Bad Wolf and Potty Queen's Sewage Forum"! :pou:

community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/1235084/The-President-That-Hates-His-Country-By-Joan-Swirsky/323.aspx

Just start that page and run through it because you don't want to read in depth unless you laugh yourself to death over their hypocrisy or lose your last meal, yuk!

You can select from these choice words of wisdom from the queen herself:

When I saw this article from one of my numerous news sources, it made me wonder just how much more this administration has tried to cover up. I doubt we'll ever know the true extent of what amounts to criminal and immoral actions.

or from the bad wolf -

Hi Evelyn,

"The whole world knows that B Hussein and his administration covered up and lied about the attack on the US Embassy in Benghazi. They're flip flopping all over the place now after even the MSM had no option other then to question this presidents feeble attempts to blame it all on a youtube video. The fraud and great pretender even repeated this absurdity when he spoke before the UN.

It's good that the CIA is coming forward and reporting facts instead of B Hussein's and Hillary's attempts to whitewash this planned in advance jihadi attack."

See, if he knows THE WHOLE WORLD KNOWS!! :RpS_lol::RpS_lol::RpS_lol:

WHUTO, they have a nonsupporter:


Unity for the lessor of two evils is not my idea of supporting our Constitution. Both think and support enslaving policies. Sorry you can blame me for standing for what I believe in. But neither of the two so called "Top Candidates" will receive my vote. Therefore in my eyes you guys are the ones that failed to support America and vote third party candidates and break the impasse. Go ahead be a RINO and vote for the RINO (Liberal In Conservative Garb). I can't....Jim Allen


C'mon Jim admit it, you really want another 4 years of B Hussein. No amount of ronbot rhetoric or brainwashing can change that sad fact.

I heard Ron Paul say he won't vote for either B Hussein or Romney and when asked he admitted he'll probably vote for Johnson. Like a good and loyal ronbot you're once again following this kooky politician.

I recommended (in my joke thread) that you could also choose to vote for Rosanne Barr she's also running for president. :) Makes as much sense as voting for Johnson. :) :)

Shalom,

Peter

He calls that filth (in my joke thread)!!! Of course with his many Evelyns fan, why not??!!!

Potty Queen getting :pulling_hair_out:

The crappy editor is doing it's thing again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No way can my last post be corrected. Even deleted it and tried all over again and still some of the fonts are way too big. :(

Bogdan, Bogdan, where are you, the queen is calling!!!

Well for the most few posts they are just coping & pasting to each other but I beg you, just try to read this in tiny print:

Hey Peter and Friends, This is a pretty good expose on the Libya Front. Who is responsible for the mess in Libya? By Judge Andrew P. Napolitano Published October 18, 2012 FoxNews.com 101712_libya_opinion.jpg File: Sept. 14, 2012: Libyan military guards check one of the burnt out buildings at the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, during a visit by Libyan President Mohammed el-Megarif to express sympathy for the death of American ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens and his colleagues in the Sept. 11, 2012 attack. (AP) How many times have you heard the truism that in modern-day America the cover-up is often as troubling as the crime? That is becoming quite apparent in the case of the death of Chris Stevens, the former US ambassador to Libya. Stevens and three State Department employees were murdered in the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, last month, on September 11th. About an hour before the murders, the ambassador, who usually resides in the U.S. embassy in Tripoli but was visiting local officials and staying at the consulate in Benghazi, had just completed dinner there with a colleague, whom he personally walked to the front gate of the compound. In the next three hours, hundreds of persons assaulted the virtually defenseless compound and set it afire Around the same time that these crimes took place in Benghazi, a poorly produced, low-grade 15-minute YouTube clip was going viral on the Internet. The clip shows actors in dubbed voices portraying the prophet Mohammed and others in an unflattering light. The Obama administration seized upon the temporary prevalence of this clip to explain the assault on the consulate. Indeed, the administration sent U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice to represent it on five Sunday morning TV talk shows on September 16th, to make the claim that the attack on the consulate was a spontaneous reaction to the YouTube clip, that it could not have been anticipated, and that the perpetrators were ordinary Libyans angry at the freedom movie makers in America enjoy. Soon, US intelligence reports were leaked that revealed that the intelligence community knew the attack was not as described by Rice. The intelligence folks on the ground in Libya reported before September 16th that the attack was well organized, utilized military equipment and tactics, and was carried out by local militias with ties to Al Qaeda. In response to these leaks, the State Department, for which Rice works, acknowledged that the assault was an the ever nonintelligent Rick Martin who goes on and on...

Now the bullying starts again, cause the bad wolf is just so smart he likes to make himself look worse by saying bad things about other people. He could be talking about anyone - his own mama.

"The country will be bankrupted by his design and agenda and then they'll wonder how they were so stupid to vote for him.

Some of them are deaf, dumb and blind and that's much worse then useful idiots. They're so addicted to their entitlement and freebies and afraid of losing them, their eyes, ears and minds are closed to what they will face if by some fluke he's reelected.

As for the woman and her fears of losing her preexisting conditions the same rule applies. Under B Hussein she'll lose it in any case cos there will be no money left and she'll have to pay much more for any medical service whether the service is for preexisting conditions or any other medical needs. I just wish they'd use their minds and see what's facing them and how this disgrace of a president lies every time his lips moves. He's simply a pathological liar and he has to give excuses and lies rather then solutions. If she had any sense she'd vote for Romney but..........she probably hasn't got any. BULLY

Shalom,

Peter

It gets worse from there and I am aware of who they are referring to and this time it is not me. Get out friend and let them sink in their garbage.

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Kathy Hamilton, Scamlander returns to Adlandpro to promote ProfitClicking.

Kathy was a very influential member of Adlandpro when I joined in 2002. She knows enough to recognise a ponzi when she spots it. Why is she on the ProfitClicking bandwaggon? Kathy is nominated as Person of The Week. Why? If she wins, it will be a doddle for here to lure suckers into Fred Mann's latest scam.

Kathy Hamilton Promotes Profit Clicking on Scamlandpro.

type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2574112/A-simple-but-Effective-Business.aspx

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"RE: Vote for the 345TH POTW Your Vote Is Appreciated

10/21/2012 12:36:35 AM

Hello Barry,
Wow what a Surprise this is, I had no idea I just came to vote and omg There I am, Thank you for choosing me once again. Its nice to be featured. Good luck everyone
Kathy Hamilton/simikathy

When are they going to realize that "Barry" is not there anymore??? Are these people totally brainwashed??

Well since she is profitclicking it makes good material for a scammer of the week, right?

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Day job must not have worked out well or too busy helping with POTW but queen scammer is back...



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Kathy Hamilton, Scamlander returns to Adlandpro to promote ProfitClicking.

Kathy was a very influential member of Adlandpro when I joined in 2002. She knows enough to recognise a ponzi when she spots it. Why is she on the ProfitClicking bandwaggon? Kathy is nominated as Person of The Week. Why? If she wins, it will be a doddle for here to lure suckers into Fred Mann's latest scam.

Kathy Hamilton Promotes Profit Clicking on Scamlandpro.

type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2574112/A-simple-but-Effective-Business.aspx

This is quite a BOLD statement to make...

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Dennis Clairmont from Scamland hopes to start recruiting old Adlanders who have deserted the sinking ship Fiedur according to the Facebook group Adlanders in Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/groups/adlanders). You wil be lucky Dennis. Old Adlanders deserted the sinking ship because of the promotion of these sort of scams. Ponzi promoters are the wrong people to recruit the original crew.

Quote Dennis Clairmont

Dennis Clairmont
Hello Friends My Idea is to find a team in adlandpro to locate lost adland friends can you help me i've ran this across Bogdan and he thinks it is a good idea.So if you check your list of friends and can locate them or you want in on this team contact me in adland.All your info on this i'll be happy to hear.This could be fun.

This man is an experienced marketer.. He is not a naive newbie. He has no hope of recruiting intellegent old time Adlanders who were interested in advertising legitimate businesses if he promotes the most obvious scams and frauds such as the JustBeenPaid Family of cons. Shame on you for being such a deliberate ponzi shill.

QUOTE from Dennis Clairmont's Facebook Page. (http://www.facebook.com/dennis.clairmont)



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Another Scamlander Runs for Cover

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I will send you some information about our
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the video.

Don Evans

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Dennis Clairmont from Scamland hopes to start recruiting old Adlanders who have deserted the sinking ship Fiedur according to the Facebook group Adlanders in Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/groups/adlanders). You wil be lucky Dennis. Old Adlanders deserted the sinking ship because of the promotion of these sort of scams. Ponzi promoters are the wrong people to recruit the original crew.

Quote Dennis Clairmont

Dennis Clairmont
Hello Friends My Idea is to find a team in adlandpro to locate lost adland friends can you help me i've ran this across Bogdan and he thinks it is a good idea.So if you check your list of friends and can locate them or you want in on this team contact me in adland.All your info on this i'll be happy to hear.This could be fun.

This man is an experienced marketer.. He is not a naive newbie. He has no hope of recruiting intellegent old time Adlanders who were interested in advertising legitimate businesses if he promotes the most obvious scams and frauds such as the JustBeenPaid Family of cons. Shame on you for being such a deliberate ponzi shill.

QUOTE from Dennis Clairmont's Facebook Page. (http://www.facebook.com/dennis.clairmont)



Dennis Clairmont shared a link.
14 October near Yarmouth, Nova Scotia
Don't Let JustBeenPaid Pass You By this Time.
As you know how huge JBP got and turned into Profit Clicking
Join Now before it's too late

JBP New.Com - Just Been Paid New Attractive 2.5% Daily Plans. (http://jbpnew.com/?u=clairmont2101)
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I read that junk he posted in Adlanders in Facebook, really made me feel like :pao:

Also saw he got some nonsupport comments as they know what that place is and why encourage anyone to return. Just be friends in that group and stay out of the sewage left behind.

[scratchycat]

Another Scamlander Runs for Cover

You will not see much of me here in the future.
I am promoting offline now with a tried and true
system that works Big Time!

Visit The Website Below & Watch
The 6 Minute Recruiting Video For Details.
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I will send you some information about our
Off Line System as soon as you have watched
the video.

Don Evans

Why he continued to post all his scams to a non audience, I have no idea. Sure was a waste of time and effort although all he ever did was copy and paste!!

Good choice to leave scamland, Don!!

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New Scamlander Amanda R. Is this one in line for next Scammer of the week? One look at the woman's "About Me" section of her profile shows the guff which she promotes.

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Silly Cow who does not know that legal authorities read every Scamland post or serial fraudster?

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Scamlanders go wild with joy when ex Adlander Dave Cotterell returns to their fold

type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2574317/Welcome-back-my-special-friend-Dave-Cottrell/3.aspx

It will be interesting to see if Dave Cotterell replies to that stupid forum or if he replies to comments about Scamlandpro in any of our RS threads.

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I was reading some comments in Adlanders in Facebook by those who KNOW and maybe discouraged Dennis in his pursuit of bringing in the lost sheep. Maybe Dave will take heed also.

The thread that was started is one that really needs discussing in Scamland and she asked "Nellie" if she could start it in her forum. So no trashing LaNell for right now, please. It was started by a friend of mine in FB and we have been discussing it on my FB page. This person is not into any kind of scams that I know of but she does try to help people in some situations. Her reasoning behind this is thoughtful and should be enlightening but as always in ALP things can turn negative in a moment. When my name is mentioned it is like setting a match to a keg of dynamite in that place. I will post the link here for everyone to see since the discussion has come up. I do not mean to involve anyone on my part. I have saved the thread up to the 17th page in case it is taken down or deleted. This is RealScam, you decide.

I have also invited some of these people to join RS and they may be members for all I know, hope they are but some object to the name-calling in here.

Bullying and Cyber Bullying (community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2574742/BullyingCyberBullying-by-Diane-Bjorling.aspx?flag=87)

[path2prosperity]

I was reading some comments in Adlanders in Facebook by those who KNOW and maybe discouraged Dennis in his pursuit of bringing in the lost sheep. Maybe Dave will take heed also.

The thread that was started is one that really needs discussing in Scamland and she asked "Nellie" if she could start it in her forum. So no trashing LaNell for right now, please. It was started by a friend of mine in FB and we have been discussing it on my FB page. This person is not into any kind of scams that I know of but she does try to help people in some situations. Her reasoning behind this is thoughtful and should be enlightening but as always in ALP things can turn negative in a moment. When my name is mentioned it is like setting a match to a keg of dynamite in that place. I will post the link here for everyone to see since the discussion has come up. I do not mean to involve anyone on my part. I have saved the thread up to the 17th page in case it is taken down or deleted. This is RealScam, you decide.

I have also invited some of these people to join RS and they may be members for all I know, hope they are but some object to the name-calling in here.

Bullying and Cyber Bullying (community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2574742/BullyingCyberBullying-by-Diane-Bjorling.aspx?flag=87)

I read the thread. Some Scamlanders who have commented are promoting scams. For example

Kathy Hamilton promotes ProfitClicking all over Scamland. She can promote the ponzi if she wishes but if she decides to accuse those of us who state that it is a ponzi of bullying, that is rubbish. Kathy has been promoting scams in Adlandpro for years, she can hardly say that she is a victim of cyberbulling, if we point this out. The woman is a ponzi pimp and I do not consider that stating this to be bullying. If she objects to anybody pointing it out, she can stop promoting ponzis.

[path2prosperity]

Myrna Ferguson promotes ponzis and illegal money cyclers in Adlandpro.

Is stating this fact or cyberbullying? The woman can delete the links from her signature, if she objects to people pointing this out.

Take a look at Myrna's Adlandpro signature files and see it for yourself. YOU decide!

http://www.paradoxcash.com/salespage.php?id=213 Cycler2012 : Home Page (http://cycler2012.com/index.php?spon=5188)

[path2prosperity]

I am sure that Dianne started this thread with good intentions but it is the biggest load of BS which I have read for a long time. Kathleen uses the thread to attack "scratchy" then she starts complaining that she is a victim of cyberbullying.

Those of us who point out the hard porn and scams promoted in this sewer will continue to name and shame porn merchants and serial fraud promoters. No amount of whining by people like Kathleen VanBeekom will stop law abiding Internet users naming the worst scammers in Adlandpro. If they want us to stop, they can stop promoting scams.

Any responsible Internet user who respond to Adlandpro threads is in danger of seeing his or her name next to ads for penis enlargers or worse.

Kathleen's ads for penis enlargers (http://www.path2prosperity.com/images/scamlandpe.GIF)

[Whip]

Myrna Ferguson promotes ponzis and illegal money cyclers in Adlandpro.

Is stating this fact or cyberbullying? The woman can delete the links from her signature, if she objects to people pointing this out.

Take a look at Myrna's Adlandpro signature files and see it for yourself. YOU decide!

http://www.paradoxcash.com/salespage.php?id=213 Cycler2012 : Home Page (http://cycler2012.com/index.php?spon=5188)

No one here is attempting to forcefully stop them from continuing their life of crime. That would be bullying in it's correct form....not their latest catch phrase to try and hide behind.

[path2prosperity]

[QUOTE=Whip;31367]No one here is attempting to forcefully stop them from continuing their life of crime. That would be bullying in it's correct form....not their latest catch phrase to try and hide behind.[/QUOTE

They want the freedom to carry on promoting scams like EZ Wealth, Paradox Cash, ProfitClicking and their latest latest matrix or cycler ponzis without complaints from those who have pointed out that these programs are scams. Let them take their accusations of having become victims of cyber bullying to any authority or newspaper. They would be laughed to scorn. If they want to rebuild an online reputation they can stop promoting ponzis. They can stop bullying members like "scratchycat" who is not a serial scam promoter. She is a whistle blower and as such she has been vilified by serial fraud promoters.

[scratchycat]

Thank you P2P and Whip for your information.

It is my opinion that 99% of members of Scamland promote some kind of scam, that is why they are there. Scammers scamming scammers. However, when it is pointed out to them and they are named as such, they start the name-calling and whining about being bullied. It is a warped frame of mind to call others names and then whine when the shoe is on the other foot. All I do in my blog is state my opinion and copy just what they post as "Straight from the horse's mouth" exposing them for what they are doing.

Can you imagine Kathleen reporting anything to officials when she herself is in over her head in pyramids, ponzi schemes and scam?! My name has been tossed around that place for going on 6 years now and it has not been nice. I am a little immune to it now but I refuse to let them continue without exposing them.

Bogdan thinks these kinds of things draws traffic to his sewage website and perhaps it does but they are not buying. It has sunk to a low bottom and he should look for another business to invest in - perhaps a LEGAL one!

[path2prosperity]

Kathy Hamilton gets hugs all round from this motley crew. Kathy promotes ProfitClicking. Can she find anything to say in support of Fred Mann and his scummy programs? The first was BigBooster.com. Was that one legitimate Kathy? She extracts money from Adlanders into this Fred Mann program. Where is her evidence that the program is legitimate?

Let her publish some evidence to that effect. If not she will retain the label of ponzi shill. MoneyMakingBrain did his best to act as Fred Mann's advocate and he was laughed out of cyberspace. Let Kathy take up that mantle of Fred Mann's defence and maybe she could loose the reputation of ponzi shill.

It would be sheer lunacy for any Adlander to follow Kathy into ProfitClicking.

[scratchycat]

I read the thread. Some Scamlanders who have commented are promoting scams. For example

Kathy Hamilton promotes ProfitClicking all over Scamland. She can promote the ponzi if she wishes but if she decides to accuse those of us who state that it is a ponzi of bullying, that is rubbish. Kathy has been promoting scams in Adlandpro for years, she can hardly say that she is a victim of cyberbulling, if we point this out. The woman is a ponzi pimp and I do not consider that stating this to be bullying. If she objects to anybody pointing it out, she can stop promoting ponzis.

You are correct of course. She was one of the first I became acquainted with when I joined the place and she always used that "polished model" as a profile pic. All I saw was her going from on program to another and sucking members into them. She even advertised at least once getting donations for her daughter to make a trip and I even sent her a little money (how stupid could I get). She also falsely asked for people to paint a picture of Eifel Tower for her, guess she wanted it done for free as she never replied to my response.

It was around the time I joined that the stuff about her and other members started up and she probably was harassed. I don't know as I was not involved, there were a lot of ugly things said and some people actually got banned from the site. I believe at one time she did also. As I say, it was early on for me and I knew little about situations. I believe this is what she is referring to in that forum about cyber bullying. I do remember she came back and acted like a best friend to everyone. It is little concern to me what does concern me is that she promotes ProfitClicking and it has already been discussed in RS.

Now they can accuse me of bullying her because I just posted this. :scared_1:

[path2prosperity]

You are correct of course. She was one of the first I became acquainted with when I joined the place and she always used that "polished model" as a profile pic. All I saw was her going from on program to another and sucking members into them. She even advertised at least once getting donations for her daughter to make a trip and I even sent her a little money (how stupid could I get). She also falsely asked for people to paint a picture of Eifel Tower for her, guess she wanted it done for free as she never replied to my response.

It was around the time I joined that the stuff about her and other members started up and she probably was harassed. I don't know as I was not involved, there were a lot of ugly things said and some people actually got banned from the site. I believe at one time she did also. As I say, it was early on for me and I knew little about situations. I believe this is what she is referring to in that forum about cyber bullying. I do remember she came back and acted like a best friend to everyone. It is little concern to me what does concern me is that she promotes ProfitClicking and it has already been discussed in RS.

Now they can accuse me of bullying her because I just posted this. :scared_1:

Kathy got harrased when she published her opinion that the holocaust had not happened. I think that even Bogdan was shocked and banned her for a month.

[scratchycat]

Yes, P2P - I went over to catch up on things as I like to be aware. I see they were pressured into removing the link to my blog. :RpS_smile: Fine with me but why don't they remove the slander that was posted concerning me? Don't worry it will be posted in my blog and I had saved all the pages anyway.

It really irks me to see LaNell kissing up to Kathleen when she was the very one who has bullied her for many years! These people are just not right! She had an entire forum thread talking about this woman. On the other hand, I considered her to be a friend (LaNell) as she wrote to me through personal email. She even asked that I get SBM to take her name off a comment posted in RS. I believe she contacted SBM but I never knew if it was removed or not. What difference would it make anyway?? She and she alone is the one who is exposing herself to the public and begging to get into scam programs. Yet she is frightened to have her picture on the web. :duh: I could never figure it out and really don't care. She lied to me and others that she was pregnant. Why?

Well they can have their hugging fest but it won't last. As long as they can continue to place all blame on ME, it makes them feel better. Have fun folks, the place stinks!

[path2prosperity]

You are causing people including the owner of Adlandpro to loose money "scratchy" WELL DONE YOU. Don't you love the way Kathleen always says the wrong thing.

Quote Kathleen

Hi Mary Evelyn,

All someone would need to do is imagine their name in place of the person being harassed, and see how that would feel if it was them being harassed on many sites for a long amount of time.

One thing I keep telling people, I gave ScratchyCat time, a long time, to remove my name from the RS site, and after 2 weeks, she did NOT, and proceeded to make it worse. She had TWO WEEKS to stop but she CHOSE to make it worse, and then proceeded to harass dozens more people, with her focus on Adlandpro Community, with her focus on deliberately trying to cause people to lose income, including the owner of Adlandpro.

What to do about being bullied? Depend upon yourself because some of those who profess to "help" are only seeking attention & online traffic for themselves, and if we're not in their circle of close friends, we get targeted for not kowtowing to their viewpoint. See my signature file:

[scratchycat]

I saw all that trash and have updated my blog accordingly. Also, I posted the info in my Garden of Friendship FB group. I am sick of those people and maybe I will just ignore them. I had no idea that a link to my blog was posted in Scamland, I thought they were talking about AIF. I would have really tried to stop having that done but I did not know about the forum thread until later.

[scratchycat]

Facebook is having one of those really weird days. My post on there did not show up for almost an hour and I thought it was lost. Finally it did and now chat won't work, oh well.

Scamland Trash (http://www.sagariexpressions.com/Blog/discussions/straight-from-the-horses-mouth-2/scamland-trash)

[path2prosperity]

Yes, P2P - I went over to catch up on things as I like to be aware. I see they were pressured into removing the link to my blog. :RpS_smile: Fine with me but why don't they remove the slander that was posted concerning me? Don't worry it will be posted in my blog and I had saved all the pages anyway.

It really irks me to see LaNell kissing up to Kathleen when she was the very one who has bullied her for many years! These people are just not right! She had an entire forum thread talking about this woman. On the other hand, I considered her to be a friend (LaNell) as she wrote to me through personal email. She even asked that I get SBM to take her name off a comment posted in RS. I believe she contacted SBM but I never knew if it was removed or not. What difference would it make anyway?? She and she alone is the one who is exposing herself to the public and begging to get into scam programs. Yet she is frightened to have her picture on the web. :duh: I could never figure it out and really don't care. She lied to me and others that she was pregnant. Why?

Well they can have their hugging fest but it won't last. As long as they can continue to place all blame on ME, it makes them feel better. Have fun folks, the place stinks!

Kathleen said it all "scratchy." You are causing Adlandpro members and the owner of Adlandpro members to loose money. When naysayers do that they are being effective. I must try harder as I have not had a compliment like that from Kathleen.

[klagoosh]

:pt: :pao:

Sorry... that sugar coated quote just gags me...

[scratchycat]

:pt: :pao:

Sorry... that sugar coated quote just gags me...

Sorry but I don't understand. It has been another long day with all this bashing going on in Scamland.

[klagoosh]

I guess the quote I saw was at the very beginning of this thread... It was the one where someone was promoting some phony B2B forum on
ALP and typing every S with a $ sign. It was a gagger...

I am just slowly catching up. You all have done a LOT of typing!! :)

[path2prosperity]

I think we have the story in a nut shell now.

Scamland members want to accuse whistle blowers of cyber bullying. They found a devils advocate in Dianne who seriously objects to cyberbullying. She is now stuck between a rock and a hard place. Scamlanders like Kathy Hamilton, Kathleen VanBeekom, Myrna Ferguson, Roger Macdavitt and others object to their names being published on scam discussion forums. They do not like being called names like ponzi shills, drones or scammers. So what can they do about it?

1) They can ask a sincere person who does not promote scams like Dianne to complain on their behalf and make sure that their names are not mentioned on scam discussion forums. They say that being discussed on scam busting sites is badmouthing them and they want to complain that they are being bullied by scam busters. They want to continue promoting their scams without any further harassment and the unfortunate devil's advocate, whom they appointed, is having a hard time thinking about an answer.

2) They can do a "Felicia Harris" and use a different user name to gain a following on other ponzi forums like TalkGold where there is some attempt to make sure that only ponzi players who know what they are doing get help from the site's moderators. Felicia's attempt to recreate herself as "feliciajewel" should be enough to deter any other ex-Adlander from following her lead. TG mods have not deleted her story about the terminal cancers from which she has miraculously recovered being nothing but con artistry.

3) They can do a “Don Evans” and stop promoting online, Don has informed his followers where to contact him to learn about his offline activities, so no Scamlander with any sense will follow that moron and let every legal authority know where he or she does business in their home towns.

4) They can become whistle blowers and tell all to the right people instead of hoping that their puppet masters will offer them any support or cash rewards for doing their bidding any longer.
StopFraud.gov - Financial Fraud Enforcement Task Force (http://www.stopfraud.gov/)

[path2prosperity]

I predicted Scamland admin's move correctly. Amanda R was being groomed for their "Scammer of The Week" award. Look at the lovely profile and "About Me" sections with the come ons in the signature files.

Scamland's Amada R

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/members/Katrinazz.aspx

Quote.

Hi I am here to make friends and help you make money online, and find real good opportunities.

I have done amazingly well in a short period of time with online businesses. Join me if you want to make money. I can point you to some ways to make money and prosper.

Join me in the 2% at the top. Its just wonderful :)

Come make money with me !

http://profitclicking.com/?r=AmazingOpportunity
http://ultimatepowerprofits.com/AmazingOpp
http://www.permanentfund.net/?ref=Amanda

https://avousa.com/?ref=AVO1060774

http://finvance.com/AM817922

[scratchycat]

I guess the quote I saw was at the very beginning of this thread... It was the one where someone was promoting some phony B2B forum on
ALP and typing every S with a $ sign. It was a gagger...

I am just slowly catching up. You all have done a LOT of typing!! :)

No problem!! I totally understand, lots to read! :RpS_smile:

[scratchycat]

That place stinks so bad, I try to only go when I need to copy something so I had not noticed how the scammer of the week turned out but when I noticed your new link P2P, I went for a quick check. I was surprised to see the winner with only 1 vote difference. Guess Kathy has another shot this week. They are all the same, it is hard to distinquish between any of them anymore. The words I used were brain-washed but a friend came up with a better one, indoctrination. It fits Scamland members very well.
Looks like that candidate has all the qualifications for winning!!

[madmam]

Sara, There are many sites similar to Adland that have the same problems. It is hard to understand why you are spending so much energy on Adland scams. Most of the scams are extremely bold and known when they are posted and almost all members of Adland are informed in one way or another about the scam, pyramid, etc. So why expend so much energy and anger towards Adland? I honestly do not understand.

Have a wonderful and blessed day.
Take care,
Jo




Several threads have been started here about this place and we have been able to expose many of the 'programs'. This one is to try and expose more of the trash being exploited in a website that thrives on business from scammers. The only place I have seen that actually applauds those who scam others with the HYIPS, PYRAMIDS, PONZIS, MLMs, and every get-rich quick scheme on earth. They get to be person of the week or make that scammer of the week. Once in a while they throw in one of the 'good' people just to make it look better for them.

There are good people who are members of this website, who started with them and have stayed throughout the years. Some left and then came back, many others are just an account that is inactive while numerous others join under several fake accounts. The number of members is just that a number, when in reality you could probably deduct at least half that amount for a better picture.

With so many 'opportunities' coming off the production line by the minute, they must have a place to solicit those READY TO LAUNCH programs and they can freely do so in Adlandpro/Scamlandpro. If any government agency or internet crime center wants to know the latest or just how many all they have to do is look at this website. You have a few good people caught up in an environment to advertise their newly discovered way to become rich, making a few dollars here & there and in doing so recruit their 'friends' to help them out so the top leaders can become rich.

You are invited to join me in exposing these scams and using this thread to sum up the multi-schemes from just that one website. I want to start with this bit I came across this morning.



It sounds like a Family Reunion!!

[Whip]

why not other than it hurts your scam recruiting.

[path2prosperity]

Madman seems like an appropriate name for this poster.

Scratchy spends time on Adland scams because she understands how Adlandpro works better than other advertising boards.

Who in Scamland tells Adlanders about any scams being promoted there. Members get inundated with PMs from Scamlanders telling them about the next big thing but nobody comments as to whether they are cons or not? Those who do are banned.

[path2prosperity]

Sara, There are many sites similar to Adland that have the same problems. It is hard to understand why you are spending so much energy on Adland scams. Most of the scams are extremely bold and known when they are posted and almost all members of Adland are informed in one way or another about the scam, pyramid, etc. So why expend so much energy and anger towards Adland? I honestly do not understand.

Have a wonderful and blessed day.
Take care,
Jo




You and I had nothing to do with each other when I was in Adland Jo, so I have never seen what programs you promote there. Sara promoted her own business with genuine products when she was a member. I challenge you to name just one legitimate product or service which you have seen on Scamland since Sara and I were banned?

[path2prosperity]

Kathleen's latest whine.

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2575162/My-Further-Comments-on-the-Bullying-Forum/4.aspx

[scratchycat]

Sara, There are many sites similar to Adland that have the same problems. It is hard to understand why you are spending so much energy on Adland scams. Most of the scams are extremely bold and known when they are posted and almost all members of Adland are informed in one way or another about the scam, pyramid, etc. So why expend so much energy and anger towards Adland? I honestly do not understand.

Have a wonderful and blessed day.
Take care,
Jo





First of all Jo/Madmam welcome to RealScam. You might want to post here to introduce yourself. Introduce Yourself Here (http://www.realscam.com/f29/)

I hope you will stick around and add to the community.

[scratchycat]

why not other than it hurts your scam recruiting.

Exactly!! And as we know it has exposed them for what they are.

[scratchycat]

Madman seems like an appropriate name for this poster.

Scratchy spends time on Adland scams because she understands how Adlandpro works better than other advertising boards.

Who in Scamland tells Adlanders about any scams being promoted there. Members get inundated with PMs from Scamlanders telling them about the next big thing but nobody comments as to whether they are cons or not? Those who do are banned.

Yes, and since we left anyone who tries to expose scam in that place gets bullied big time. The latest example is the one trying to start a discussion on bullying, look what happened there when it could have helped people.

[scratchycat]

Kathleen's latest whine.

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2575162/My-Further-Comments-on-the-Bullying-Forum/4.aspx

They just talk to themselves. Don't know why I even bother but I will quote the lastest by potty queen, it sounds like she is taking her job seriously as she sits on the throne and makes judgments of others, just read this:

Hi Kathleen, as someone who has watched that forum as a bystander, I must say what happened there was not really a surprise. I think the surprise was that the people this ambush thread was targeted at would not bite. I do however think at least one person was duped into being a participant. That being said, it really irks me to see someone who was one of the worse bullies adland has ever known trying to act all pious. It got so bad at one point when this person and her son were attacking a certain lady, who by the way left the community, that I even sent her a pm and asked her to stop. People can say they've changed but until I see proof I will continue to keep my distance. It's been a long time now and I can't remember exactly her response but in essence she claimed she didn't know what I was talking about. As I said before I doubt there can ever be any "reaching across the aisle" at least not with a climate like this.

That is what she used to do all the time. She never had a forum of her own, she never entered the POTW contest saying it was a joke. The only forum she participated in was Peter Fogel's Filth Forum. She would just watch and when some controversy happened, she would jump in and give her nasty judgment. Like who is she to judge anyone? It is like a black widow spider sitting back just waiting for a victim. Makes for a good Halloween story, watch out scamlanders, she waiting....!!!!

[scratchycat]

Sara, There are many sites similar to Adland that have the same problems. It is hard to understand why you are spending so much energy on Adland scams. Most of the scams are extremely bold and known when they are posted and almost all members of Adland are informed in one way or another about the scam, pyramid, etc. So why expend so much energy and anger towards Adland? I honestly do not understand.

I will try to explain - it is a place I was thoroughly involved in and all I did was try to spread goodwill and beauty. I was in contact with people all over the world, getting their local pictures and comments about where they lived. I featured Artists and Poets, I encouraged members to exhibit their talents, we shared beautiful pictures and I tried having a picture contest where the gifts from winning were freebies from me. Bogdan refused to help saying why would he give away money to such a small group of the same people, AFTER he encouraged me to continue with it! During all the years of doing the above, I was constantly harassed and bullied by the worst of Scamland. I tried ignoring them while I suffered from their abuse. I got little help from Bogdan, there were times he would step in and put a stop to it but at the same time he would always tell me it was my fault! I was not the only one receiving abuse from this group, you were a victim also and many others. Bogdan did not stop it because it brought in traffic - it meant money to him and that is why to this day he lets those people remain in that place.

Most people in here have heard the story and are sick of it but for your sake and others who are still reading this I will tell a little more. I saw in the stop bullying thread or maybe it was Simpson's spider web where Kathleen said I had the link to my blog put there cause I wanted the attention as it was the anniversary of when my account was terminated by Bogdan! That made me laugh because I honestly had not even remembered when it was or else I would have been celebrating!! My husband and I got a big laugh off that also because he knew how happy I was to be rid of the place. Why on earth would I want anymore attention in that filthy place???!!! Had I known beforehand that the link to my blog was to be posted there, I would have protested. BUT I DID NOT KNOW!! Even until days later and I was horrified but by then the damage had been done and again I was the subject of their abuse.

You see, Jo, what you don't understand is that crooks/scammers use any means to distract from their crimes and name-calling the scambusters is a way of doing it. They will even fake illness if it helps their "business" and take in some sympathic cash from their so-called friends. They are not innocents, they are professional crooks and know how to play people as they take their money.

I have tried to explain as well as I know how but as I know people it will be misconstrued. That is what RealScam is... you decide.

Stick around and find out, we could use your experience and maybe you can learn from some of the more experienced scambusters in RS.

[path2prosperity]

Please do not think that I am disinterested in the eradication of cyber bullying. It is an extremely important topic but others know far more about the subject than I do, so I do not get involved in discussions about that subject.

I did not join Adlandpro to make friends or new social contacts. I had a network of friends and business associates. I joined to find products and services to sell to my business contacts. I was only interested in meeting Adlanders who ran businesses. I was a working woman who did not wish to spend time socializing online. My relationship with some of those who were trying to sell real products or services online like “scratchy” and "GOF" developed and we became friends as well as business associates.

Some Adlanders were volunteers who offered their time and expertise to educate those who were struggling with modern computer speak. It was a fantastic community where a newbie really could learn to earn, in the early days. I joined Greer Trumble’s HTML classes and felt bereft when he announced that one of the big hurricanes had left his brother and their children homeless, so he had no alternative but to leave Adland.

There were many who tried to spam Greer or lure him into their dubious businesses. The last poster on Greer's forum was treated with the contempt which he deserved. The idiot is still around and so obviously known to legal authorities that nobody even mentions his name.

It is worth looking at Greer’s profile. I am an ex employment agent who has done some head hunting.

Is Greer still around. Is he a RealScam lurker who will contribute to some Scamlandpro history? You decide.

type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2276537/Greer-Trumble/5.aspx

Some ex Adlanders are heeding calls from RS members and others are lurking in the wings.

[scratchycat]

1713You know I saved that entire thread in "Nellie's" forum about bullying. So taking out the trash and closing the forum does not mean the world was not looking.

Another person has now taken it over wonder how long it will last??
community.adlandpro.com/forums/forum/556743/Have-you-ever-Bullied-anyone-or-have-you-been-the-Target.aspx

[scratchycat]

Oh and another thing if you click the link to the old one it diverts to the Whammy thread where you get more of the mouth!! :RpS_lol:

[madmam]

Sara, I posted in your forums, and you in mine...........

[madmam]

If my first post did not go through......My grandchildren call me "MAM" and then they would ask me are you "Mad Mam"!!!!! So I used the user name of "madmam". Not 'Madman'......Learn to read what is written!!! I have been a member of ALP for many years and when there is a scam, PPL tell each other about it. "P2P" are you a member of ALP????? Do not jump my a** over a post I made, YOU do not know me!!!!!

[path2prosperity]

If my first post did not go through......My grandchildren call me "MAM" and then they would ask me are you "Mad Mam"!!!!! So I used the user name of "madmam". Not 'Madman'......Learn to read what is written!!! I have been a member of ALP for many years and when there is a scam, PPL tell each other about it. "P2P" are you a member of ALP????? Do not jump my a** over a post I made, YOU do not know me!!!!!

You are right Jo. You and I never ran into each other on Scamland. I only bother with the serial ponzi promoters and those who post about "Letters from Christ, "Heaven's Letters" and messages from Galactic spirits that need of money. The fact that I did not know you, is pretty powerful evidence to the fact that you have not been involved in any of these activities.

I work off line and I tell local householders and businesses where they can find Internet business owners who can be trusted.

I jumped on you before I had done any research on who you were. Sorry about that. I endorse "scratchy's" comment. Welcome to RealScam.

[path2prosperity]

1713You know I saved that entire thread in "Nellie's" forum about bullying. So taking out the trash and closing the forum does not mean the world was not looking.

Another person has now taken it over wonder how long it will last??
community.adlandpro.com/forums/forum/556743/Have-you-ever-Bullied-anyone-or-have-you-been-the-Target.aspx

It is late in UK and I am working tomorrow as I had a big vet's bill last week. My old but happy cat had not eaten since last Saturday so I took her to the vet on Tuesday. It was a condition that he treated with antibiotics but she still had not eaten when I left for work today. I was thrilled when she was sufficiently recovered to greet me when I got home. She ate a tiny bit of chicken breast this evening, so she is on the mend.

I could not find the link to see who has taken the cyber bullying thread. It is important so please could somebody publish it in this thread. Others may want to carry on reading it.

[path2prosperity]

I am glad that you saved that thread "scratchy." It has proved a point that many of the scammers dispute. Their assertions do not get deleted. If people run or promote scams, they might get away with it for a while. If they persist, they can be sure that somebody somewhere has a record of the fact.

If an amateur forum naysayer can save a whole thread, professional researchers and journalists can save infinitely more. Many of us had played money games before becoming naysayers but stopped once we realised they were not fun and games.

I do not consider mentioning names of serial ponzi promoters bullying. Ken Russo might like to read the ALP thread and complain that he is being bullied. I do not think that either Dianne or the new person running the thread would like the job of defending Ken.

[path2prosperity]

Who is the Marketing Director? Who is the Sales Director?


Which Independent Consultant is Responsible for "The Rate of Change?" Did Jill Bachman? and her Galactic Spirit mates study theoretical maths at Thrive Univerity and get the job?

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2559502/Come-Thrive-with-Mary-Evelyns-Shelf-Reliance/10.aspx to see if Mary Evelyn can answer some simple questions.

[B]QUOTE MARY EVELYN SIMPSONB]

Inc. 500/5000 Recognizes Shelf Reliance

posted 10/19/2012

Inc. 500/000 has recently recognized Shelf Reliance for its exponential growth over the last several years. The company ranked #535 in the nation (#14 in Utah) on its list of the fastest-growing private companies in the US, all due to its staggering 708% growth in revenue over three years. Inc. 500/5000 also ranked Shelf Reliance 12th in the nation (second in Utah) in the Food and Beverage industry.

“We are proud to be counted among the top entrepreneurs in both the state and the country,” said Jason Budge, Shelf Reliance co-founder. “The incredible growth of this company can be attributed largely to our independent consultants, who are dedicated to sharing the unparalleled products and business opportunity that Shelf Reliance offers, and also to our amazing corporate team that always goes the extra mile.” Co-founder Steve Palmer added, “We’re so excited to see our vision of empowering people to become self-reliant, prosperous, and charitable taking off on a global scale. We’re thankful to all the consultants, customers, and employees who have helped us get here, and eager to see Shelf Reliance continue to grow and touch lives.”

[path2prosperity]

There is an outside chance that this Norwegian is a newbie. Perhaps an Adlander will tell him a bit about the history of ProfitClicking and OneX Concept and suggest that he deletes unwanted entries in his Scamland profile.

Terje Melsom Ellefsen

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/members/mellef.aspx

[scratchycat]

Sara, I posted in your forums, and you in mine...........

Sure we did and I remember you got attacked by that same group over something you posted. That is why I fail to see how and why you cater to them now. You don't have any reason to humble yourself to those people. Yes, they are the controlling group in the place now but what does that make them? Not anything special that I can see. All but one that I know of are promoting some kind of pyramid, MLM, or get rich quick scheme.

[path2prosperity]

I shall be asking the company if it intends opening in Britain.

During boom time harvests things get dumped. This year our harvests are awful.

Greatly organised business. What could this do for poor areas of the world long-term.

VERY exciting business.

Roger

Where did you study management studies Roger? I do not think the British Institute of Management Studies will recognise any graduates from "Thrive University." I am going to Tesco in Richmond today and I may go to Asda or Putney tomorrow. Perhaps you have a report to compare their prices with Thrive prices for the same goods.

A greatly organised business, you say. Where does that information come from Roger?

I am sure that a junior manager from a local supermarket will help you compare prices. They may even help with a lab report.

I think The Co-Op have excellent laboratory testing facilities. They used to be centred in Greater Manchester

[scratchycat]

If my first post did not go through......My grandchildren call me "MAM" and then they would ask me are you "Mad Mam"!!!!! So I used the user name of "madmam". Not 'Madman'......Learn to read what is written!!! I have been a member of ALP for many years and when there is a scam, PPL tell each other about it. "P2P" are you a member of ALP????? Do not jump my a** over a post I made, YOU do not know me!!!!!

It was a typo or misreading, don't get so upset. Judy was an early member of ALP and a strong supporter at one time, she liked to play the surfing games but did not get involved with ASD. She had a stroke and was out for maybe a couple of years (she can tell that). It was a long hard road back to even being able to use the keyboard but thank goodness her memory is pretty good and she has done an outstanding job of fighting internet crime. I am amazed at the knowledge she has of all the bigtime crooks. She can certainly speak for herself but since you don't know her and have just come in here, please try to not be so judgmental over a small change of a letter that made it man instead of mam. I do not think it was intentional.

We don't attack each other as members in good standing. Now when a known crook or scammer comes in to try and defend their "program", that is a different story. RS is nothing like your scamland, thank God! - else I would not be here! Members support each other and the administration is always on alert.


I have been a member of ALP for many years and when there is a scam, PPL tell each other about it. Then everyone must be very busy telling on each other. I don't believe you promote any kind of program but you should look at the signatures of your friends and read their hype, go to the sites they promote and find out for yourself.

[scratchycat]

It is late in UK and I am working tomorrow as I had a big vet's bill last week. My old but happy cat had not eaten since last Saturday so I took her to the vet on Tuesday. It was a condition that he treated with antibiotics but she still had not eaten when I left for work today. I was thrilled when she was sufficiently recovered to greet me when I got home. She ate a tiny bit of chicken breast this evening, so she is on the mend.

I could not find the link to see who has taken the cyber bullying thread. It is important so please could somebody publish it in this thread. Others may want to carry on reading it.

It is hardly worth the effort to go there, it has 3 pages and nothing since 10/26. Since they are all bullies and my name is not in there nor Georgios, they have no one to talk about and call names. Kathy was silly to come back there and think she can regain ground again. We know who is running the sinking ship scamland and they don't want her trying to take over again.

I posted the link in my message, just copy it and place in browser address.

community.adlandpro.com/forums/forum/556743/Have-you-ever-Bullied-anyone-or-have-you-been-the-Target.aspx

[path2prosperity]

How thoughtful of VanBeekom to provide the names of those who have won Scamland's "Person of The Week" for newbies needing help to decide who is screwing whom on cyberspace.

THANKS KATHLEEN.

Remco Boom
Joan Stalker
Larry Blethen
Paula Frye
Jan Green
Kathleen VanBeekom
Bob Dull
Debra M-V
Michael Clayton
Andrey Lyashkov
Carl Haavaldsen
Robert Talmadge
Barb Doyle
Gail Chamberlain
Rajaram S.K.
Jill Bachman
Edna & Roger Boisjoli
Sam Sunday
Jessica Prince
Dean & Gladys Beaty
Myrna Ferguson
Mattias Kroon
Roger Bjornerud
Geketa Holman
Michael Caron
Dennis Clairmont
Amanda Martin-Shaver
Mark Dewey
Phil Black
Alain Deguire
Ken Wolff
Linda Harvey
Lydia Fokina
Branka Babic
Lenworth Nelson
Sarah Pritchard
Barbara Delgiudice
Christina A.

[path2prosperity]

It is heart rending to see pictures of the devastation caused by hurricane Sandy on BBC news. It is sick making to see fraudsters cashing in on this.
One of them who is soliciting funds for Paradox Cash claims to be in receipt of messages from Archangel Michael about the East Coast storm.

Quote Scamlander Myrna Ferguson.

"Archangel Michael on the First Sedona Conference, the East Coast Storm and the West Coast Earthquake."

type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/569870/A-Journey-to-the-Mountain-of-Love/3445.aspx

It is interesting to see that the owners of Paradox Cash have come into Real Scam claiming that their business is legitimate and RS members are welcome to ask them any questions. There have been no answers to questions asked by RS members yet but we shall see.

RS members questions to Paradox Cash owners (http://www.realscam.com/f9/paradox-cash-another-pyramid-1616/).

[path2prosperity]

If anybody who sees his or her name on post 575, is angry at the suggestion that they have been promoting scams, he or she is very welcome to join us at RS and explain that the business which you promote are legitimate.

[scratchycat]

Bogdan is making big changes to his scammer of the week forum. He has him a new/old adlander back to put the stopper in the sinking ship.
"
Hi Gang

Yes Bogdan want's to try this to have the POTW Forum as a Landing Page after login.
The thing in the works is that we will Revamp the POTW Forum (FACE LIFT IT UP!)

Another thing is not only a face lift but also we will rebuild it Search Engine Friendly
Plus Adlandpro Member Friendly,Plus stressing to the members and new people to Signup with Adlandpro and also to vote and Post that they voted.

When this is all said and done Barry and the POTW Team can Get Back to where they left off and Keep it Running as usual with the same but new Forum.

All This will be Bogdan And POTW Team Approved.

Good Going Adlanders it's great to see those Stats on Google And on any Search Engines First Pages.Like Kathleen mentioned The FB, Twitter, YouTube, Digg, Liken, postings The POTW Forum another Great way to First (Remind inactive ADP Members That adlandpro is still a Thriving Community and moving forward with lots to offer)
Also These post show that there is something for everyone in the adlandpro community not only in network marketing but also in 100's of areas thus hopefully more signups.

Thanks All
Dennis "

Could be good news for us as all the links posted in RS will now go to their scammer of the week forum instead of "hello page". Don't know, don't care, it is all a bunch of stuff and nonsense. Just keeping those interested updated.

[scratchycat]

community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2395897/POTW-Feedback/32.aspx

The above quote comes from the page 33 of the same link above.

There is a picture of what a splash they are making on Google, well here is another one of what a splash they are making on Google.
1739

[scratchycat]

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w40/Lizzie6973/Animations%20and%20Graphics/Animations%20by%20Sara/Halloween/scary1.gif

For all those who celebrate this holiday - Happy Halloween and safe trick or treating!! Actually, we are staying in!!

[scratchycat]

I know most of you really don't care for any info from Scamland but it is a good place to go for a laugh and you can find all the "programs" and schemers in one place. For a good laugh read some of this tripe:

34-POTW Feedback | View Thread | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2395897/POTW-Feedback/34.aspx)

It is so amazing and funny to see how far some will go to get elected to that scammer of the week and it is building up for a replacement for the potty queen. I know one person who would sell her child to get that fame and misfortune.

[scratchycat]

The same person who is speaking out so strongly for Scamlandpro had this to say in 2010 when I was trying to get her to spend more time there:

"Hi Sara,Adlandpro people are like a high school full of middle aged people. Besides that, the regulars don't buy anything. Anyone who's really trying to earn online goes to other ad sources, the ALP community is not spending and hasn't been for years. Jxxx L. completely removed ALP from her downline builder, Earth Friendly Biz. She WAS an ALP member a few years ago, now she's been earning over $100,000 per year everywhere else online except ALP."

(I have these files documented.)

There is much more about these people that I know but I won't reveal personal evidence. There are some really 'sick' people mouthing off in that place and to think others actually believe them and I am not referring to any one person.

Just some of the programs they promote:
http://www.profitclicking.com/?r=simikathy
How Pay Per View PPV Cost Per View CPV Online Advertising Works (http://www.directcpv.com/how-cost-per-view-cpv-ppv-keyword-targeted-ad-campaign-advertising-works.html)
ClickTrackProfit (http://clicktrackprofit.com/?referer=kenwolff)
Get Cash Connected - The Road to Financial Freedom Just Got a Whole Lot Shorter! (http://getcashconnected.com/?kcvan2011)
Day 1 Media (http://media.myday1.com/)
SISEL International, LLC. (http://tnlady.mysisel.com/)

[path2prosperity]

Just some of the programs they promote:
http://www.profitclicking.com/?r=simikathy
How Pay Per View PPV Cost Per View CPV Online Advertising Works (http://www.directcpv.com/how-cost-per-view-cpv-ppv-keyword-targeted-ad-campaign-advertising-works.html)
ClickTrackProfit (http://clicktrackprofit.com/?referer=kenwolff)
Get Cash Connected - The Road to Financial Freedom Just Got a Whole Lot Shorter! (http://getcashconnected.com/?kcvan2011)
Day 1 Media (http://media.myday1.com/)
SISEL International, LLC. (http://tnlady.mysisel.com/)

They also try to claim that people who have left their community are still recommending the sewer. When scratchy was a mod, she got my Adlandpro Welcome page removed but when she left, somebody decided that I could be a good pawn to lure newbies into Scamland. Just look at what I am reputed to be saying.

Hi and Welcome!
Hello, I’m Judy Hortin and I welcome you to this exciting community.
I have to tell you I didn’t know what to expect when I first joined, but everything here exceeded my expectations.
Regardless if you are a business owner or you are looking for groups of friends with similar interests, this is the place to be.
Here you can find friends, place and view classified ads in various areas (dating, real estate, jobs, and more), create picture albums, make announcements, create groups of interests and events.
You can talk live to people online through community messenger and participate in various forums.
Have private conversation through private message system and never receive spam from other users.
All this for free.
You can also start earning money by recommending other people to the site.
No other community offers so much for free to their members. What you get free here, you have to pay a monthly fee anywhere else.
You are only a few clicks away from being involved with this vibrant, active and supportive group of people, so what are you waiting for?
I will be around to answer any questions you might have and help you while you learn the ropes.

Perhaps somebody would like to join from this link so that I can read what an imposter has to say when a newbie asks me questions I see this abuse as a form of identity theft.

type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/welcome/163788.aspx

[path2prosperity]

Scamland's Peron of The week Kathy Hamilton

Invites Newbies to Join ProfitClicking

Welcome, guest of Kathy Hamilton!


Experience the Power of Something GOOD Always Happening to You!

Paid Daily • Huge Referral Bonuses • Daily Withdrawals

We Drive Thousands of Visitors to Your Website? Don't you mean scammers Kathy?


Come and Get Scammed by Kathy Hamilton (http://www.profitclicking.com/?r=simikathy)

[scratchycat]

Hey P2P, I just discovered they are still using my profile promote their trash also. Guess if you sign up they use your name forever. Is that legal??
Welcome To Adlandpro Community | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/welcome/itsmesgb.aspx)

I know I did not write that message.

[scratchycat]

I do not want my name connected with Scamland!!! Anyone know how to get this removed?? If you ever joined adlandpro and remember your username, see if they don't still have your name inviting people to join. Just use this to locate it:

http://community.adlandpro.com/welcome/(your username).aspx

1 | Social Networking | Business | United States | Search Ads | AdlandPro (http://www.adlandpro.com/classifieds/unitedstates/327/337.aspx)

Oh, what trash they have!!

[scratchycat]

Things are getting heated over in the scammer of the week thread now. Looks like we got the old queens and new queens coming to war of words! Somebody is really not happy because this was HER year to be Potty Queen... Now Adland has its Angel back and she is really promoting http://www.profitclicking.com/?r=simikathy

It just keeps getting better folks you need to read some of this. Would you say someone lit a candle under Dennis?? Kathy never could spell as big K is pointing out. So funny seeing them go at it for something so unworthy!! Guess Bogdan can take the weekend off and relax since Dennis has it under control!! :RpS_smile:

RE: POTW Feedback

11/3/2012 12:23:04 PM

It appears this thread has been hijacked. What a shame. :(

http://tnlady.mysisel.comhttp://www.tnlady.shelfreliance.com/tnlady

Good Morning Mary Evelyn
Its a shame you feel that way you might want to listen to that video thats posted No joy robbers allowed only positive influences. Nothing good comes from negitive remarks life is to short to have thorns in ones side. Yet positive notes keeps the soul soaring,
Have a beautiful day and dont forget to invite your friends to vote. much luv

RE: POTW Feedback

11/3/2012 2:30:27 PM

I see I have proven my point so end of subject for me. I have nothing else to say unless sometime in the future if I have genuine feedback for the POTW.

41-POTW Feedback | View Thread | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2395897/POTW-Feedback/41.aspx)

[Whip]

Things are getting heated over in the scammer of the week thread now. Looks like we got the old queens and new queens coming to war of words! Somebody is really not happy because this was HER year to be Potty Queen... Now Adland has its Angel back and she is really promoting http://www.profitclicking.com/?r=simikathy

It just keeps getting better folks you need to read some of this. Would you say someone lit a candle under Dennis?? Kathy never could spell as big K is pointing out. So funny seeing them go at it for something so unworthy!! Guess Bogdan can take the weekend off and relax since Dennis has it under control!! :RpS_smile:

RE: POTW Feedback

11/3/2012 12:23:04 PM

It appears this thread has been hijacked. What a shame. :(

http://tnlady.mysisel.comhttp://www.tnlady.shelfreliance.com/tnlady

Good Morning Mary Evelyn
Its a shame you feel that way you might want to listen to that video thats posted No joy robbers allowed only positive influences. Nothing good comes from negitive remarks life is to short to have thorns in ones side. Yet positive notes keeps the soul soaring,
Have a beautiful day and dont forget to invite your friends to vote. much luv

RE: POTW Feedback

11/3/2012 2:30:27 PM

I see I have proven my point so end of subject for me. I have nothing else to say unless sometime in the future if I have genuine feedback for the POTW.

41-POTW Feedback | View Thread | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2395897/POTW-Feedback/41.aspx)

And they're the biggest thieved going stealing from unsuspecting innocents. lol. What about their joy?

[scratchycat]

And they're the biggest thieved going stealing from unsuspecting innocents. lol. What about their joy?

They don't care about that, it is the joy they get sucking in those dollars from "friends" and covering it up with all this "junk" of pretending to be something I am not, you see. The Great Pretender... They all are, maybe one or 2 innocents who believe their lies. Can't feel sorry for them now that RS has shown them the truth.

[path2prosperity]

A Sly Way To Get People Clicking Your Traffic Exchange Ads By Dennis Clairmont.

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2577437/Burning-Rubber-by-Dennis-Clairmont.aspx?flag=3baldyken2001

Be sure to scroll to the bottom of the page for instructions on how to keep traffic moving by watching all Dennis' ads on ClickVoyager.

[path2prosperity]

BoggyBoy has come into the Adlanders in Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/groups/adlanders/) group trying to convcince members there that they can have a nice private forum to socialise without business opportunities.

If people join this nice fun forum which Boggy offers to make for this group, they could find their names on one of the sex ads. Note that Paula Frye's name is on this sextoys ad.

BoggyBox's Sex Toy Ad. (http://path2prosperity.com/images/scamlandsextoys.GIF)

Advertised by Adland Members Eric and Karen Ruff (http://path2prosperity.com/images/scamlandruff.GIF)

[path2prosperity]

Does anybody know anything about these TRUSTe cerificates. They have issued one for Bogdan Fiedur of Adlandpro. Adlandpro use people's names on sex sites. See previous post. They use banners to con ex Zeek members into a phoney their planB and they use the names of ex Adlandpro members like me and "scratchy" to recruit Internet newbies into their scams.

Surely this should be reported to the authourity which issues these certificates.

TRUSTe Certificate for Scamlandpro (http://privacy.truste.com/privacy-seal/Softfornet-Solutions-Ltd-/validation?rid=d9d17661-d18c-4e3c-a586-ff70936ecf83).

[scratchycat]

P2P, after seeing your info here and following the links, I just finished reading the comments in AIF. It looks like Bogdan has been able to bring Pauline back in to 'save the day'. He must be paying her to help, JMO. Will they save the sinking ship? If you read all the comments, you can see the thinking behind it has not changed and will not. This little group of 121 members might get excited over all this 'cheerleading' but the words I read tell me that Bogdan is not really concerned with this small group. He knows where the money comes from and it is not based on whether or not these people get more active in Scamland. Good try, Bogdan.

You like those trouble makers, they draw attention and you do not care about those people who do the work for you. If anything happens and they get bullied, you will just tell them it is THEIR fault. You know well who the people are that cause the most trouble but you protect them, ignore them and let them have their hate forums. You let them keep the bullying forums up with all the name-calling like they are trophies. Yet you don't like it when some of us have decided to expose them for what they are and it has damaged your 'good' name in the meantime. All you have ever had to do was eliminate a few people and you could operate your 'business' of harboring scam, fraud, pyramid and Ponzi schemes, allow any kind of advertising with your free classifieds; and keep above the radar of internet legal authorities.

You have only yourself to blame. You brought the attention to Adland by thinking you could control things and people outside of your community. I am sorry it happened as it did but things have changed over the years and your website attracks the worst of the worst. The social aspect has been destroyed by not enforcing your own 'terms of committment'. You gave me a free paid account and I felt obligated to work for you. I did good. You failed me by allowing me to be bullied through nothing but jealousy on their parts. I see you doing the same by others and letting this group continue their wicked ways. Well, I don't care anymore, they can't hurt me but I can expose their hatred for everyone, even attacking our youth. You are not a private group, the whole world can read what is posted there and I hope someday our laws will make it a crime to tell lies about, make slanderous remarks, and do away with character assassination.

All of this happening within hours of Jill Bachman's "passing" really brings about some doubts as people in RS have witnessed over the years in dealing with crooks. I am not experienced but many on here are and have seen it happen.

You decide...

[path2prosperity]

I watched a BBC TV program last night. I could get more details of the programne, if anybody is interested. There was hysteria from four well known people about the blatherings of one, David Icke.

Bogdan Fiedur has stated thet he believed in the David Icke message about aliens trying to take over the world. It appears to be exactly the same message that appears on Scamland's Mountain of Crap.

David Icke Web site. (http://www.davidicke.com/)

If anybody can be bothered to read Icke's conspiracy theories, good for them but they appear to be no different from Scamland's Mountain philosophy. Readers of The Mountain thread in Scamland are mainly Icke and his band of followers. Could David Icke be the owner of Adlandpro? Just musing!

[scratchycat]

There is a document available for anyone interested in the discussion in Adlanders in FB this morning. Just let me know.

[scratchycat]

I watched a BBC TV program last night. I could get more details of the programne, if anybody is interested. There was hysteria from four well known people about the blatherings of one, David Icke.

Bogdan Fiedur has stated thet he believed in the David Icke message about aliens trying to take over the world. It appears to be exactly the same message that appears on Scamland's Mountain of Crap.

David Icke Web site. (http://www.davidicke.com/)

If anybody can be bothered to read Icke's conspiracy theories, good for them but they appear to be no different from Scamland's Mountain philosophy. Readers of The Mountain thread in Scamland are mainly Icke and his band of followers.

I used to read books relating to mystical beliefs and traditions but I was still young and dreaming. I had been to the Icke's website but found it not to my taste.

[path2prosperity]

I used to read books relating to mystical beliefs and traditions but I was still young and dreaming. I had been to the Icke's website but found it not to my taste.

It was trashed on BBCTV last night.

[scratchycat]

I wish we could still get BBC on TV and I think Wilson listens to a radio program from there. My brother was a fan of British comedy and never missed a program, even taping them when he wasn't home.

[path2prosperity]

Please can somebody copy this whole page and advise people not to buy a book that is hawked as part of the For Dummies series as people could easily be taken in. I still have not figured out how to save whole pages but several people have given help and i will get round to applying my mind. Meanwhile this $29 book is not genuine.

Type http then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2578198/Make-75-Within-The-Next-30-Minutes.aspx?flag=1

Don't fall for this CRAP

COPY+PASTE=CA$H:
Make $75 Within The
Next 30 Minutes

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The Lifetime Membership is a low ONE TIME price of $29.95, and is REFUNDABLE within the first 24 hours. But you can easily "get your money back" with a couple of sales!

[scratchycat]

I checked who is and they are privacy protected so don't know who the owner/s are yet. Maybe someone has a better way to find out.

Home - Cut & Paste Profits (http://cutandpasteprofits.com/)

All in the name of Christianity, do they believe that God supports crooks? Yes, He loves them as He does everyone of us but not our sins.

community.adlandpro.com/forums/forum/555507/God-Is-Good-All-the-Time-All-the-Time-God-Is-Good.aspx

They just keep them coming, don't they?

I am always astonished at some of the ways they come up with to figure out God. This guy definitely fits the Mountain group.

We Serve a Living God!: My Spiritual Recovery Back to Jesus; My Experience (http://weserve-livinggod.blogspot.com/2012/06/my-spiritual-recovery-back-to-jesus-my.html)

[scratchycat]

A partial quote from member in Adlanders in Facebook:

"The one thing that hit me however.. is that for the most part people are advertising to other people who are advertising to people who are advertising... and nobody's buying!"
https://www.facebook.com/groups/adlanders/
Does that not sum up Scammers scamming scammers??

[path2prosperity]

A partial quote from member in Adlanders in Facebook:

"The one thing that hit me however.. is that for the most part people are advertising to other people who are advertising to people who are advertising... and nobody's buying!"
https://www.facebook.com/groups/adlanders/
Does that not sum up Scammers scamming scammers??

I read the whole thread despite their attempt to ban me from Adlanders in Facebook. I was ammused to find that Bogdan has used this Facebook page to try and suggest that I was the one who used his site to post ads for London escorts. Tell your London solicitors who tried to sue me Boggy Boy. I am sure that Howard Kennedy would love to know that you are not a porn promoter and that I am placing ads for London escorts on your site!

QUOTE BoggyBoyFiedur.

"I believe I owe members of this groups some explanation in reference to post which was made recently here and it appears to be deleted.
Judy mentioned at her link that community promotes sex ads.

I want to let you know that we verify every ad manually for last six months and only possibility that sex ad would show up on the site is human error.

In last 4-or 5 months we had several forum posts (which you know happen in real time) for escorts.
Incidentally they were placed for escorts from London, clearly showing someone's familiarity with geography of this area and ip originating from there. This content was placed in forum section which additionally requires good familiarity with the site. This is not likely that someone who is new would be able to create an account and quickly make a post without prior knowledge how the site works.
The forum post was placed within minutes of creating an account.

Incidentally when you look at the date of those links, you will see that posts were placed there around the time Judy was terminated from the site.
She has been terminated on Apr 12, 2010, posts were made on Jun 11, 2010.

I hope this will give you broader prospective of what have transpired."


Nice try BoggyBoy. Ban me from a siite and try to blame me for running sex ads on your precious Adlandpro but you do not have the spherical objects to get the London solicitor who dropped you like a hot cake to confirm any of this. You just suggest that this is what I am about and that you poor BoggyBoy, get the blame.

[path2prosperity]

I checked who is and they are privacy protected so don't know who the owner/s are yet. Maybe someone has a better way to find out.



Privacy protected "scratchy?". The fake Dummies book can be seen here.

Just type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2578198/Make-75-Within-The-Next-30-Minutes.aspx?flag=1

The person who is trying to sell the trash is Scamlander Steve Shearer.

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/members/webdesignbysteve.aspx

[path2prosperity]

Boggy has removed my name welcoming new people to his community but he has not removed "scratchy's" welcome link. I strongly advise everybody who has been a member and does not wish to welcome anybody to the place to make sure that their name is not welcoming newbies there.

Google "wecome" "adlandpro" and then your name to make sure that he is not using you as a fishing lure.

[path2prosperity]

Adlandpro member. Spencer Ciuffo thinks he can hide behind the new Adlandpro privacy certificate to promote his illegal cash gifting program. HA HA

Is Spencer's Assured Privacy from Adlandpro of Any Value?


Spencer Ciuffo Mugshot and Blatherings. (http://www.facebook.com/search/results.php?q=Spencer%20Ciuffo&init=quick&tas=0.7570457616133159&search_first_focus=1352371478113)

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/members/spencerciuffo.aspx
Read the drivel quoted here.

Nice To Meet You!...
People Are Tired Of Not Making Money...
Isn;t It Time?...
2010 Blessings - A Private Cash Gifting Community (http://www.2010blessings.com/invite3/?71715)
To Be Blessed?...
Allow Me To Introduce To you...
2010 BLE$$ING$
Now You Can Sit here And Complain All You Want...
But Cash Gifting Works And Continues To Do So...
This Could Be You...
2010 Blessings - A Private Cash Gifting Community (http://www.2010blessings.com/invite3/?71715)


God Bless
Spencer Ciuffo
2010 Blessings - A Private Cash Gifting Community (http://www.2010blessings.com/invite3/?71715)
New

[scratchycat]

This guy never quits with his "programs"

DAY 1 (http://www.myday1.com/hbndon/default.aspx)

SuperFood

Dr. Max's Everyday Raw SuperFood Mix
The Healthiest Thing You Could Ever Eat!
Shake it, Bake It, Or Eat It Raw!

Question: What makes this product different from a high-grade protein powder I can buy at the health food store?

Answer: Dr. Max's Everyday Raw Superfood Mix is not simply a protein powder. It's a superfood mix that has greater health benefits and dietary components that actually feed the body with the food it needs to be healthy. The body needs a balance of protein, carbohydrates, essential fatty acids, and fiber to maintain optimal health. Typical protein powders have various forms of these elements, but they are processed and refined to make a powdered blend, which ultimately alters their true benefits. But Dr. Max's Everyday Raw Superfood Mix is different - every ingredient in this formula is totally natural, and between 97%- 98% raw, and, it can be used to make dozens of different things - not just a shake. There really is no category for this superfood blend because there truly is nothing like it!

Question: What is gluten, and why is gluten-free so important?

community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2578639/Dr-Maxs-Everyday-Raw-SuperFood-Mix-The-Healthiest-Thing-You-Will-Ever-Eat.aspx?flag=1

[scratchycat]

I read the whole thread despite their attempt to ban me from Adlanders in Facebook. I was ammused to find that Bogdan has used this Facebook page to try and suggest that I was the one who used his site to post ads for London escorts. Tell your London solicitors who tried to sue me Boggy Boy. I am sure that Howard Kennedy would love to know that you are not a porn promoter and that I am placing ads for London escorts on your site!

QUOTE BoggyBoyFiedur.

"I believe I owe members of this groups some explanation in reference to post which was made recently here and it appears to be deleted.
Judy mentioned at her link that community promotes sex ads.

I want to let you know that we verify every ad manually for last six months and only possibility that sex ad would show up on the site is human error.

In last 4-or 5 months we had several forum posts (which you know happen in real time) for escorts.
Incidentally they were placed for escorts from London, clearly showing someone's familiarity with geography of this area and ip originating from there. This content was placed in forum section which additionally requires good familiarity with the site. This is not likely that someone who is new would be able to create an account and quickly make a post without prior knowledge how the site works.
The forum post was placed within minutes of creating an account.

Incidentally when you look at the date of those links, you will see that posts were placed there around the time Judy was terminated from the site.
She has been terminated on Apr 12, 2010, posts were made on Jun 11, 2010.

I hope this will give you broader prospective of what have transpired."


Nice try BoggyBoy. Ban me from a siite and try to blame me for running sex ads on your precious Adlandpro but you do not have the spherical objects to get the London solicitor who dropped you like a hot cake to confirm any of this. You just suggest that this is what I am about and that you poor BoggyBoy, get the blame.

If I remember correctly, I found that link in Scamland and posted it here. It was around the time of the Olympics being held in London. It is despicable this Bogdan would accuse you of doing that. Been taking lessons from Kathleen again, Bogdan?

It is my opinion that RS members caused Bogdan and his website much stress after he started that threatening thread about filling charges against RS and certain members. Many of us and surely SBM posted pages of porno ads from his free classifieds.

http://www.realscam.com/f16/bogdan-fiedur-owner-scam-ponzi-promoting-site-adlandpro-threatening-rs-critics-again-955/

http://www.realscam.com/f11/bogdan-fiedur-adlandpro-threatening-suit-against-realscam-com-913/?highlight=Julian+Weider

Guess the name was changed from this: Julian Weider of Howard Kennedy Lawyer for Bogdan Fiedur (owner of scam & ponzi promoting site - Adlandpro))

I fully believe that he was approached or challenged if he did not 'clean up' his act, so he has spent several months trying to paste things together to please the authorities. Some things cannot be seen publically - not that they aren't there, just cannot be viewed. However, some people have been able to catch screenshots where the rotating banners at top of page still have ads relating to sex or sexual porn products. I will see if I can't find one, or if others have them maybe they will post here.

[scratchycat]

Bogdan has been commenting in Adlanders in Facebook where I am not a member and I believe one has been banned. Are other RS members a member of that group?
At any rate, he is trying to squelch rumors of him not being the owner. Actually, who cares? No matter who the owner/s is/are the place still stinks. Can you fix ugly? So if you believe him, here it is:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/adlanders/

"Bogdan Fiedur Hi Dave, I'm still the owner. Yes there are some people who wished I wasn't one and this is probably them who are spreading these rumors. I'm following your discussion here but I'm not trying to influence anything. If this group decides to show up back within Adlandpro community, you will get my support, but I can't control how other people behave, what they say and how they react. There are several new security settings which allow on running semi-private or private discussions. E.g. forum or profile can be now entirely hidden from view. Can be only seen by friends or can by only accessed by people who are logged in. If you decide to have discussion with only group of selected people this is possible exactly how this is here. You can also hand-pick and remove people who you would not wish that participate in your forum even if they are not actively participating in the discussion. You don't need to participate in forums where you would be not comfortable and fully control your own forum or even your presence in the community . Let me know if you have any other questions. Bogdan"

I believe I have heard this before several times, so what is changed?

[scratchycat]

continuing from the same site as above:

Hello Dxxxx, I'm sure that things can be improved and I will gladly follow the suggestion, like introducing additional code of conduct and suggestions you have provided. I also want to mention that whatever you have heard has two sides and from where I'm sitting looks much different that what you were trying to present in your recent thread at the community. I understand your intentions and I'm hoping that you will take the time to learn about this issue from another angle. There are always two needed to tango and in this case both sides crossed the line and continue crossing it by dressing in anonymous cloths and using other sites to cause the damage daily.

I myself have gotten caught up between two agendas and no amount of regulations could stop it since the sides were using ways to fight each other in such a way that regulations could be bypassed but intended target hit.
Bogdan


you have heard has two sides and from where I'm sitting looks much different that what you were trying to present in your recent thread at the community. I understand your intentions and I'm hoping that you will take the time to learn about this issue from another angle. There are always two needed to tango and in this case both sides crossed the line and continue crossing it by dressing in anonymous cloths and using other sites to cause the damage daily.

This is an extremely veiled comment. trying to present in your recent thread at the community - (the place where a link to my blog was placed and again I was attacked by scamland members, not all, just a few) So you were reading and let Kathleen continue to destroy the goodwill behind the thread. I know, I know, she draws in numbers but I might add negatives ones!

I am not dressing in anonymous clothing as my blog is a part of my website. Everyone knows who I am here in RS but I have gotten to like Scratchycat, maybe I need to update my icon and have been told to file my claws down a bit but some people on your website to make my fur stand up. You have got 2 of the worst kinds of folks in that place and with exposure they are really hurting you. Believe me as long as you let that 'wolf in sheeps clothing' and your 'potty queen' keep spouting off, I will do everything I can to expose them. You let him keep those trophy threads up and he loves that because he is an evil person. Don't you see what a bad reputation that gives your website and we won't even mention all the crime going on there.

Making Fun of America's Youth (http://www.sagariexpressions.com/Blog/746)

[path2prosperity]

There are several new security settings which allow on running semi-private or private discussions. E.g. forum or profile can be now entirely hidden from view. Can be only seen by friends or can by only accessed by people who are logged in. If you decide to have discussion with only group of selected people this is possible exactly how this is here. You can also hand-pick and remove people who you would not wish that participate in your forum even if they are not actively participating in the discussion. You don't need to participate in forums where you would be not comfortable and fully control your own forum or even your presence in the community . Let me know if you have any other questions. Bogdan"

I believe I have heard this before several times, so what is changed?

Adland's Spencer Cuiffo has the assurance that "only friends of Spencer Ciuffo can view this profile." See post 605 of this thread. Not only have I seen the profile but I have posted details of the illegal cash gifting (Blessings) which he hawkes on Adlanpro. Bogdan must know that cash gifting is illegal so he assures Spencer Cuiffo that his privacy can be assured on Scamland.

Complete and utter spherical objects BoggyBoy. Your assurancy of privacy for these shills is absolute fantasy.

[path2prosperity]

Adland's Dennis Clairmont gets nominated for their Person of The Week but Dennis Claimont is a NewJustBeenPaid promoter. Has Dennis been told that his ref whoring is not available for any legal legal authorities on Scamland's pages. SECURITY AND PRIVACY FOR SCAMLANMERS.

:pt:

[scratchycat]

Here is the complete statement by Bogdan: (https://www.facebook.com/groups/adlanders/)
I believe I owe members of this groups some explanation in reference to post which was made recently here and it appears to be deleted.
Judy mentioned at her link that community promotes sex ads.

I want to let you know that we verify every ad manually for last six months and only possibility that sex ad would show up on the site is human error. me in blue (notice in last 6 months)

In last 4-or 5 months we had several forum posts (which you know happen in real time) for escorts.
Incidentally they were placed for escorts from London, clearly showing someone's familiarity with geography of this area and ip originating from there. This content was placed in forum section which additionally requires good familiarity with the site. This is not likely that someone who is new would be able to create an account and quickly make a post without prior knowledge how the site works.
The forum post was placed within minutes of creating an account.

In addition community has been linked with thousands of free discussion boards which don't require signup, where links contain keywords indicating porno content. Such links where pointed towards
the site, cause that Google lowers ratings of such site due to porno association.

You can see as an example of such site at this link.
hawk (http://www.kashascove.com/photos/main.php?g2_view=comment.ShowAllComments&g2_itemId=1406&g2_page=4)

(in blue is my statement) He was not kidding when he said that site links back to Adlandpro, check the source out!!

When you view the source of the page, you will find that there are links there to community.

As I said, there are thousands of such posts made to my site, with just hundreds on this one discussion board. me, in blue (Is he referring to RealScam?)
Incidentally when you look at the date of those links, you will see that posts were placed there around the time Judy was terminated from the site.
She has been terminated on Apr 12, 2010, posts were made on Jun 11, 2010. me, in blue (Is that the time you were banned, Judy?)
(Oh, please don't go there with 'blaming someone else for the ads placed on your site. You allowed anything for a long time and a few of us tried to help keep it clean of the sex ads.)

I hope this will give you broader prospective of what have transpired. me, in blue (They might believe you but I don't.)

She also mentions there that we are promoting zeekler ads and such. me,in blue (You were allowing members to do so. http://tnlady43.zeekrewards.com/ Your little potty queen was promoting it in her forums.)
In fact we don't and have been removing those ads for quite a while. (Of course you have since they have been closed down by Feds!)
But check this out.
http://bogdanfiedur.com/google1.jpg

(I would rather have you check this out!)

http://www.sagariexpressions.com/zeekadlandpro.docx

Look at the right side of the page. There is Zeekler paid ad.
Google didn't have problems with promoting those ads for a fee.
The screen shot is taken after Zeekler site was shut down.
Google still has paid ads promoting what supposedly was a ponzi schema, yet this would be a sin if I did this. (not a sin, how about crime, this is about adlandpro not Google.)
Bogdan Fiedur

Tuesday at 8:43pm

[path2prosperity]

If I remember correctly, I found that link in Scamland and posted it here. It was around the time of the Olympics being held in London. It is despicable this Bogdan would accuse you of doing that. Been taking lessons from Kathleen again, Bogdan?

It is my opinion that RS members caused Bogdan and his website much stress after he started that threatening thread about filling charges against RS and certain members. Many of us and surely SBM posted pages of porno ads from his free classifieds.

http://www.realscam.com/f16/bogdan-fiedur-owner-scam-ponzi-promoting-site-adlandpro-threatening-rs-critics-again-955/

http://www.realscam.com/f11/bogdan-fiedur-adlandpro-threatening-suit-against-realscam-com-913/?highlight=Julian+Weider

Guess the name was changed from this: Julian Weider of Howard Kennedy Lawyer for Bogdan Fiedur (owner of scam & ponzi promoting site - Adlandpro))

I fully believe that he was approached or challenged if he did not 'clean up' his act, so he has spent several months trying to paste things together to please the authorities. Some things cannot be seen publically - not that they aren't there, just cannot be viewed. However, some people have been able to catch screenshots where the rotating banners at top of page still have ads relating to sex or sexual porn products. I will see if I can't find one, or if others have them maybe they will post here.

If you want a list of sex ads "scratchy," just Google adlandpro, penis enlargers for starters.

Adlandpro, Penis Enlargers from Google Search. (http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=adlandpro+penis+enlargers&oq=adlandpro+penis+enlargers&gs_l=hp.3...5845.20099.0.22825.25.23.0.2.2.0.427.2 582.16j5j0j1j1.23.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.Rjmc5eCugAk&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=78bb6e610acf4cd6&bpcl=38093640&biw=1280&bih=770)

Next Google adlandpro, prostate massage.

Google Results for "adlandpro, prostrate massage (http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&nfpr=1&spell=1&q=adlandpro+prostate+massage&sa=X&ei=6xicUKTLNo6r0AXliwE&ved=0CBwQBSgA&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=78bb6e610acf4cd6&bpcl=38093640&biw=1280&bih=770)"


No Sex Ads on Adlandpro?

[scratchycat]

Adland's Spencer Cuiffo has the assurance that "only friends of Spencer Ciuffo can view this profile." See post 605 of this thread. Not only have I seen the profile but I have posted details of the illegal cash gifting (Blessings) which he hawkes on Adlanpro. Bogdan must know that cash gifting is illegal so he assures Spencer Cuiffo that his privacy can be assured on Scamland.

Complete and utter spherical objects BoggyBoy. Your assurancy of privacy for these shills is absolute fantasy.

Try clicking on their privacy icon at bottom of pages within the community, click on File a Complaint, give the link www.community.adlandpro.com and see what happens.

[scratchycat]

Still kicking up over in the Scammer of the week!! Miss Potty is in charge, Jimbo - get used to it!!!

RE: POTW Feedback

11/8/2012 8:52:13 PM

Yes Jim we have a conversation going but about what? Blatant advertising! How is this going to effect traffic for this thread in the long run? You know how people complain about people spamming the forums with ads so your comments really surprises me. OK, I've had my say, not that I expect it will do any good. :)


Quote:


As I see it. We have a conversation happening here. That was completely non-existent until this past couple of weeks. I have seen great suggestions, good feedback and potential solutions to the dirth or abscence of activity the POTW has seen lately. Unfortunately only a handful of folks are brave enough to step into this hornets nest. For the very reason that has been beaten to death here even after the folks accused have stopped what they were accused of. Sheesh No wonder the traffic here sucks thesedays!




Quote:
OK, I am going to stick my neck out AGAIN and risk being called immature or maybe some other choice names, but I was under the impression this thread was to be used only for comments for any POTW helpful hints etc. and not for self promotion as has been happening in the last week or so. As I mentioned in a previous post, to me things have gotten WAY off topic but then maybe I just see it differently. Scratchy's comment: NO KIDDING!! :RpS_lol:

http://tnlady.mysisel.com/en/US/home.htmhttp://www.tnlady.shelfreliance.com/tnlady

http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2395897/POTW-Feedback/58.aspx

[path2prosperity]

Try clicking on their privacy icon at bottom of pages within the community, click on File a Complaint, give the link www.community.adlandpro.com and see what happens.

Just done it "scatchy" Here is the result.

This URL does not have a license with us. Click here to report a trademark violation. Your report of the URL will be filed as soon as you click this link. If you think you mistyped the url, please try entering again.

[scratchycat]

Just done it "scatchy" Here is the result.

This URL does not have a license with us. Click here to report a trademark violation. Your report of the URL will be filed as soon as you click this link. If you think you mistyped the url, please try entering again.

Yep!! That is what I got and you can bet I clicked on that link!!!

[scratchycat]

Update on Scamland's privacy and certification:

"Hello all, as you know trustworthiness of adlandpro has been questioned and I have applied to various authorities for verifications and certifications. Recently we have received certificate of approval from scamadviser.com . Scamadviser went through verification process and gave as 100% approval safety rating. Note it is free to receive such certification and nobody can buy it. Scamadviser.com | check a website for risk | check if dodgey | check is a website safe (http://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/adlandpro.com) Adlandpro has also perfect ratings from siteadvisor.com by Mcafee adlandpro.com | McAfee SiteAdvisor Software (http://www.siteadvisor.ca/sites/www.adlandpro.com) We are also working on some suggestion in regards to conduct within community and will be making it more visible so users are aware of it.
Bogdan"

Scamadviser.com | check a website for risk | check if dodgey | check is a website safe (http://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/adlandpro.com) (when you click that link within Facebook, you get a warning) It does get a high rating but so does my website, have not checked others.

siteadvisor is not much better.

Bogdan, you are not talking to children anymore. There is a much more sophisticated group outside of Adland that can see through your remarks and statements. You are to be given credit for brainwashing some of your members and that is a fact. They see you as a God of some kind.

We are also working on some suggestion in regards to conduct within community and will be making it more visible so users are aware of it.

What good is it going to be to make them aware of it, they already are? They know they can keep doing what they are doing and you will not remove the evil-doers from your website. That is why you have lost so many good ones.

Keep trying, you might convince some members.

[scratchycat]

You really picked a winner here Bogdan. Dennis is making a jerk of himself and a joke of your website. Maybe some lessons in English would help? Mark and his graphics, Kathleen and her useless HTML code and then you have your QUEEN making her stupid hijacking remarks...


"Dennis Clairmont My thoughts about adlandpro I use adlandpro as a home base to test what programs i'm doing.I have been working with a small group helping with the POTW Forum in boosting the votesBarry Scott is sick and in the Hospital and may never come back to the community or at least not for a long time.We have brought the POTW Votes back to 50% of the best of times in adlandpro.New members are trickling in daily.I've been in close contact with Bogdan.I brought to him an idea that we could make the POTW forum a landing Page after Log in.This feature he will add this week.Adlandpro is seeing Good activity and getting better.I did disrupt the heck out of a feedback forum to the point i was accused of hijacking it.My mission was to bring up those votes no matter how bad it made people feel.Today this weeks POTW Votes came in higher than ib many weeks thanks to a small group of members who are active and want to help build Adland to a more thriving community.If you sign back into adlandpro please massage me.Hack even Bogdan has a Brand New profile Picture so see and tell him Dennis sent you.Remember write me once you've Logged in."

https://www.facebook.com/groups/adlanders/

Reference to both quotes.

Poor Dennis and I used to like him.

[Whip]

Update on Scamland's privacy and certification:

"Hello all, as you know trustworthiness of adlandpro has been questioned and I have applied to various authorities for verifications and certifications. Recently we have received certificate of approval from scamadviser.com . Scamadviser went through verification process and gave as 100% approval safety rating. Note it is free to receive such certification and nobody can buy it. Scamadviser.com | check a website for risk | check if dodgey | check is a website safe (http://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/adlandpro.com) Adlandpro has also perfect ratings from siteadvisor.com by Mcafee adlandpro.com | McAfee SiteAdvisor Software (http://www.siteadvisor.ca/sites/www.adlandpro.com) We are also working on some suggestion in regards to conduct within community and will be making it more visible so users are aware of it.
Bogdan"

Scamadviser.com | check a website for risk | check if dodgey | check is a website safe (http://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/adlandpro.com) (when you click that link within Facebook, you get a warning) It does get a high rating but so does my website, have not checked others.

siteadvisor is not much better.

Bogdan, you are not talking to children anymore. There is a much more sophisticated group outside of Adland that can see through your remarks and statements. You are to be given credit for brainwashing some of your members and that is a fact. They see you as a God of some kind.


What good is it going to be to make them aware of it, they already are? They know they can keep doing what they are doing and you will not remove the evil-doers from your website. That is why you have lost so many good ones.

Keep trying, you might convince some members.

Problem with his smoke and mirrors excuses is you are not buying from the site itself....you are buying from the scammers advertising on the site about their sites. Neither one of those websites he references are worth a damn in that instance.

[Whip]

You really picked a winner here Bogdan. Dennis is making a jerk of himself and a joke of your website. Maybe some lessons in English would help? Mark and his graphics, Kathleen and her useless HTML code and then you have your QUEEN making her stupid hijacking remarks...


"Dennis Clairmont My thoughts about adlandpro I use adlandpro as a home base to test what programs i'm doing.I have been working with a small group helping with the POTW Forum in boosting the votesBarry Scott is sick and in the Hospital and may never come back to the community or at least not for a long time.We have brought the POTW Votes back to 50% of the best of times in adlandpro.New members are trickling in daily.I've been in close contact with Bogdan.I brought to him an idea that we could make the POTW forum a landing Page after Log in.This feature he will add this week.Adlandpro is seeing Good activity and getting better.I did disrupt the heck out of a feedback forum to the point i was accused of hijacking it.My mission was to bring up those votes no matter how bad it made people feel.Today this weeks POTW Votes came in higher than ib many weeks thanks to a small group of members who are active and want to help build Adland to a more thriving community.If you sign back into adlandpro please massage me.Hack even Bogdan has a Brand New profile Picture so see and tell him Dennis sent you.Remember write me once you've Logged in."

https://www.facebook.com/groups/adlanders/

Reference to both quotes.

Poor Dennis and I used to like him.
Um, they all do including the 'owner' don't they?

[path2prosperity]

Dennis is making a jerk of himself and a joke of your website.

Don't you mean super jerk "scratchy"?

Quote from Dennis which should put anybody with an iota of sense off voting in their POTW contest.

"Hi nominees I wish You All The Best Of Luck in This Weeks POTW

TO ALL VOTERS Please Post That You Have Voted

[COLOR="#FF0000"]This Will Help in Picking You for The Next Person Of The Week"

[path2prosperity]

I checked McAfee Secure Search to see what they said about my site and I was horrified to find that they list me as being affiliated to Adlandpro. I strongly recommend that anybody who does not wish to be affiliated with Adlandpro, informs McAfee Secure Search sure that his or her blog/website is not associated.

[path2prosperity]

Adlanders in Facebook returns to Adlandpro. They banned me from their forum in the hopes that I would not be able to read and comment on their posts. However Bogdan Fiedur and his cronies can not remove posts made in Facebook. Here is an invitation for AIF members to return to Scamlandpro.

Quote

"Georgios Paraskevopoulos Well, Lets see what wil happeni nin ALP. Tomorrow we will have a new forum there by PAULINE!
Blessings Georgios"

Source. Adlanders in Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/groups/adlanders/?fref=ts).


I strongly advise anybody who joined AIF to delete his or her membership, if they do not want their names and posting records available to Scamlandpro admin

[path2prosperity]

Pauline Rainer may believe that BoggyBoy Fiedur has deleted the evidence that she was an Andy Bowdoin promoter who introduced a lot of Adlanders to ASD.

Boggy can not delete that evidence Pauline and here is the proof. Here is a comment which a fellow Adlander made to one of your threads in 2008 and here is your reply in 2008.

"Re: FOCUS BIZ NO; 8 ...ASDCASHGENERATOR...Pauline Raina6/17/2008 10:48:02 AM
Hi Pauline!

I´m also a member in ASD Cash Generator, and even if it´s not my primary business, I´m impressed how they are becoming a major advertising resource on the internet.They are really growing!

See you! Mattias

Mattias Kroon Affiliate Creative Marketer Creative Marketer (http://moneymaker4554.blogspot.com/) "

Pauline's response to Mattias.

"Re: FOCUS BIZ NO; 8 ...ASDCASHGENERATOR...Pauline Raina6/17/2008 11:18:33 AM
Thats real cooool Mattais,

great to know you are in too...yes it is growing so fast and steady too. Im glad Ive finally found something that works for me, and for so many others too.

Blessings always Pauline R"

[path2prosperity]

If Pauline Rainer was only a small time Bowdoin promoter who played the game for small change and she wants to tell the truth about her part in it, she is welcome to join RS. If she starts new forums in Adlandpro, she is at risk of being labelled a collaborator.

[path2prosperity]

Scamlandpro POTW group should not include comments from members who are promoting JustBeenPaid. Why can they not warn the members who post to the group, that they are knowingly or inadvertently promoting ponzis before they are allowed to comment in an important thread, which is to be their landing page?

Find the JustBeenPaid promoter here.

"Vote for the 348TH POTW Award, Your Vote is Appreciated
By Potw Team.
Page: 1, 2, 3

11/10/2012 11:20:51 PM

Scamland POTW Thread

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/forum/5236/Feature-Of-The-Week-Person-Of-The-Week.aspx

[scratchycat]

You know what, if people are stupid enough to come back and support Scamland and bow to their leader Bogdan Fiedur after everything has been exposed, they deserve what they get. I see he has started an Adland page in FB and trying to change his profile to being more friendly. They will flock to him and let them. We know what has become of the 'company' he started that has made him a rich man. There is no way to turn it around because of how the money is made. So Scammers Scam Scammers and befriend scammers in the land of Scamland. Did I put enough scam in there?

However if anyone is looking for the latest and worst schemes out there, you have to look no further than Adlandpro.com.

[scratchycat]

SUCCESS!!!!

Got my name removed from promoting Scamland!!

Check it out!
Account Information | Register | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/welcome/itsmesgb.aspx)

community.adlandpro.com/welcome/itsmesgb.aspx

I redirects to the above link!!

[path2prosperity]

SUCCESS!!!!

Got my name removed from promoting Scamland!!

Check it out!
Account Information | Register | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/welcome/itsmesgb.aspx)

community.adlandpro.com/welcome/itsmesgb.aspx

I redirects to the above link!!

I saw that they had removed a lot of people's names "scratchy." If people are worried that they are welcoming unknown people into Scamland through this link, all they need to do is google "welcome adlandpro" and then their own names.

Using your name without your consent is a breach of Adlandpro truste certificate and you can report them, if they use it.

If people check to see if the welcome link is there they must either want to welcome people to Scamland or they need to be warned of the consequences of not getting the welcome removed.

[path2prosperity]

Pauline Raina's private forum for the Adlanders in Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/groups/adlanders/?fref=ts) returning to Scamlandpro. Some interesting Internet history for you Pauline.

VLane tried to create a private forum. All members has to sign "legally binding" NDUs before they could become VLane members. People joined the scam in huge numbers and very few believed that the NDUs that they had signed were worthless. Eagle tried to point it out but next to none of VLane's members listened.

Mrs Vee and the fake "Dr Mara" who were joint owners of VLane claimed that they had created a water tight private forum. When the scam was brought down, news leaked out that DrMara and her chief cheerleader, Jake Amadee (more aptly known as Jake The Snake,) had known for two years that there was no way that they could run a private forum. Jake and Mara admitted that fact in 2007 but "DrMara" and "MrsVee" kept conning the faithful into the belief that their private forum was secure for another two years. MrsVee who was the "trustworthy" figure head had no contol of events whatsoever. Who knows if the members list will be published on RS? You thought that the news about your ASD thread had been successfully deleted and that should have taught you to think before you believe everything BoggyBoy tells you.

If you want to promote a private forum for BoggyBoy Fiedur, you are welcome but the list of members is no more private than the London telephone directory. BoggyBoy is a dog that has had its day just like Dr Mara, MrsVee and Jake Amadee.

You are a decent stick and I wold be sorry to see you looking like this.

[scratchycat]

Big deal, they have about 8 members so far. Does not look like a landslide to me but Pauline returns to Adlandpro and we wonder why, a job to work from home?? Bogdan finally hiring someone??

Let them have their Private Chit-Chat & Natte forum, who cares? Does not take away or cover up from the crime going on in that place.

[path2prosperity]

Big deal, they have about 8 members so far. Does not look like a landslide to me but Pauline returns to Adlandpro and we wonder why, a job to work from home?? Bogdan finally hiring someone??

Let them have their Private Chit-Chat & Natte forum, who cares? Does not take away or cover up from the crime going on in that place.

Kent Black paid his mods $500 a month. That could be a useful sum in a developing country.

Bogdan's list of friends on Facebook isn't growing very fast and one person on his friends list has been confirmed as being dead by their local funeral home. How many names on the list have no clue that they are listed as friends of Bogdan Fiedur? There is one that I would love to have as a RS member, as that person could contribute a great deal to the history of autosurf programs for RS.

[scratchycat]

This is what it is all about and nothing more, the socializing is just a way to try and cover it up.

1952

It is hard to understand because she is so religious but maybe it is different in other countries as how they see crime.

[path2prosperity]

This is what it is all about and nothing more, the socializing is just a way to try and cover it up.



She must have believed that BoggyBoy could delete evidence that she was an ASD promoter. BoggyBoy can't delete threads from anywhere but his own sewer Pauline.

See post 625 and don't let the man fool you into believing he can delete evidence Pauline. Join RS and tell the truth. I quote.

"Re: FOCUS BIZ NO; 8 ...ASDCASHGENERATOR...Pauline Raina6/17/2008 10:48:02 AM Carry on reading post 625.

[scratchycat]

Miss Potty Queen is highly upset that no one is giving her much respect these days.


RE: POTW Feedback

11/14/2012 1:24:29 PM

"Hello everyone, following this thread has shown me just how unethical some of you are and I must say I was very disappointed in some of you. I really thought you had more integrity but I guess I was wrong. Just how wrong I was, was made very clear to me recently and especially this morning as I read down through the post history headlines.

All I can say is shame on those of you that have hijacked this thread for your own personal gain and don't try and deny it. The evidence is very clear and I watched a few days ago when it was very politely pointed out but that post was quickly deleted. Which brings up another concern. It appears censorship is now the order of the day. There was no reason to delete that post that stated facts and so I'll be saving this post in case it is deleted.

I had voted for Linda Harvey but since she is ineligible that vote does not count. Not sure, at this point, whether I'll use that vote for one of the other candidates or not and also not sure whether or not I will continue to support the POTW since even the POTW team has assisted in violating the NO ADS rule. "

community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2395897/POTW-Feedback/69.aspx

Jimbo has made a comeback in Scamland!! Got his picture plastered everywhere, all right!! POTW champion and another one campaigning for Person of the Year - they are lining up folks. Getting lots of help trying to cover up how you make your money Bogdan and all those certificates at the bottom of the pages are supposed to be impressive!!?? Well yeah to all your worshippers.

[littleroundman]

"Integrity" ????

On a HYIP ponzi and get-rich-quick forum ??

Are you kidding me ???

[path2prosperity]

Miss Potty Queen is highly upset that no one is giving her much respect these days.


Perhaps her Zeek downline are causing her aggro. Some of them may have decided that the best way to get their money back is to sue their upline. Jimbo's free food downline could be getting restless too. Great leaders in the race for Scammer of the Year.

[scratchycat]

"integrity" ????

On a hyip ponzi and get-rich-quick forum ??

Are you kidding me ???

for real!!

[scratchycat]

Perhaps her Zeek downline are causing her aggro. Some of them may have decided that the best way to get their money back is to sue their upline. Jimbo's free food downline could be getting restless too. Great leaders in the race for Scammer of the Year.

Most likely no one is listening to her and that is why she is upset, after all she is the queen you know!

[path2prosperity]

Whhy did Paula Frye join RealScam to complain about people insulting her? She is still recommending FunkyShark as a good money making opportunity on her web site, even though it closed a few weeks ago . Look at her recommended money makers.

Paula's web site. (http://www.paulafrye.com/moneymakers.htm)

[path2prosperity]

Dennis Clairmont has landed Pauline Raina in the MIRE!

I would like to Nominate for POTW. Pauline Raina. Thank You.Dennis Clairmont.

They are very short of members who are "eligable" or interersted in Scammer of The Week Awards. Will Pauline be fool enough to accept the honour if another Scamlander seconds the nomination?

type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2388221/POTW-Eligible-Member-Suggestions/28.aspx.

[path2prosperity]

Has Maurice Bernier deserted the sinling ship Fiedur? Don't you just love this little extract from Bernier's sales spiel?

"We were established in November of 2010 and are dedicated to eliminating corrupt business practices by showing all our members how to avoid their traps. Each member is provided with a free 31 day course/email series that attempts to show them how they can easily be deceived on the Internet by master manipulators. Our goal and what we practice is to consider our members budgets above all else while maintaining an open and honest relationship."

Join The Maurice Bernier Hunt. (http://www.prlog.org/11303093-the-power-of-one-income-members-deserve-the-best-and-we-plan-to-deliver.html).

Maurice Bernier's F5Mmillionaire's Club. Paying daily for almost 25years and licenced by Canadian Government?

Maurice says it is

Quote.

F5M-Millionaires Club is a
Canadian Government Registered Business
with Certificate/License Number 190169946

At least that is what one of his shills says. Let us look at the page "Proudly brought to you by Mathews Multi-Service is a gold member Mathews Multi-Service
Members Area"

More Details (http://f5m-millionaires-club.com/?id=mc93mms)

[scratchycat]

Whhy did Paula Frye join RealScam to complain about people insulting her? She is still recommending FunkyShark as a good money making opportunity on her web site, even though it closed a few weeks ago . Look at her recommended money makers.

Paula's web site. (http://www.paulafrye.com/moneymakers.htm)

Where has she posted in RS? Guess I missed it.

[scratchycat]

Dennis Clairmont has landed Pauline Raina in the MIRE!

I would like to Nominate for POTW. Pauline Raina. Thank You.Dennis Clairmont.

They are very short of members who are "eligable" or interersted in Scammer of The Week Awards. Will Pauline be fool enough to accept the honour if another Scamlander seconds the nomination?

type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2388221/POTW-Eligible-Member-Suggestions/28.aspx.

Somewhere I read a statement by one of those "members without integrity" about what happened when they ran out of people to nominate!! Of course Pauline will accept as will most of them.

[scratchycat]

Dennis must not have scored high in English and Spelling back when... However, he is a good one for the job as if it needed anymore jerks promoting it! :RpS_lol:

[scratchycat]

Has Maurice Bernier deserted the sinling ship Fiedur? Don't you just love this little extract from Bernier's sales spiel?

"We were established in November of 2010 and are dedicated to eliminating corrupt business practices by showing all our members how to avoid their traps. Each member is provided with a free 31 day course/email series that attempts to show them how they can easily be deceived on the Internet by master manipulators. Our goal and what we practice is to consider our members budgets above all else while maintaining an open and honest relationship."

Join The Maurice Bernier Hunt. (http://www.prlog.org/11303093-the-power-of-one-income-members-deserve-the-best-and-we-plan-to-deliver.html).

Maurice Bernier's F5Mmillionaire's Club. Paying daily for almost 25years and licenced by Canadian Government?

Maurice says it is

Quote.

F5M-Millionaires Club is a
Canadian Government Registered Business
with Certificate/License Number 190169946

At least that is what one of his shills says. Let us look at the page "Proudly brought to you by Mathews Multi-Service is a gold member Mathews Multi-Service
Members Area"

More Details (http://f5m-millionaires-club.com/?id=mc93mms)

The latest of Maurice:

Please see the update just released below to my PowerOfOneincome4Life friends/members and get in on the action while it's hot!"

Sorry to contact you on a Sunday but this is very urgent for you to act on!

I am trying to get out of the habit of contacting my TPOOI4L friends on a Sunday but I thought you'd definitely like to see this right away.

It was just recommended to me by our BWF owner Mr. John Kielec whom if you know me well, you know I trust implicitly. He definitely knows how to spot the money makers so if it's good enough for him, then I strongly feel it should be good enough for all of us!

The best part is it only costs a risk of just $2.00 to find out and you will probably benefit from our spillover if you act on it. With that being said, I think you can now understand the urgency since this will be a big time "Early Movers Advantage For You!"
ibourl.net/MagicDolla

John is calling this his "Little Gem" and I think he has it labelled quite perfectly.

Here are some of the program highlights:
GROUP 1 ===> SYSTEM PUTS IN $1 ===> YOU GET BACK $10.00....THEN, OUT OF THIS $10.00, YOUR INCOME GROWS....(automated process - nothing else to do):
GROUP 2 ===> SYSTEM PUTS IN $3 ===> YOU GET BACK $150.00
GROUP 3 ===> SYSTEM PUTS IN $12 ===> YOU GET BACK $6,000.00
GROUP 4 ===> SYSTEM PUTS IN $24 ===> YOU GET BACK $120,000.00

As I stated before, I thought you would like to see this ASAP.

Once again, it's only $2.00 but if you can't afford it; don't do it.

I will begin heavy promotions on this tomorrow to give those who go for it today the best advantage for spillover from mine and John's efforts. My first promo will begin with an email to a list of over 23,000 and I'll snowball from there as time permits.

I have already placed a login and back office banner on our TPOOI4L site so I do expect members will be signing up as early as today. The quicker you get started the sooner you should benefit from our combined efforts so, I strongly suggest you don't hesitate, go sign-up and spend that measely $2.00 ASAP.
ibourl.net/MagicDolla

It's definitely a great day for Earlybirds to catch that Almighty worm!

See you at the top!

Maurice Bernier
Owner/Admin: ThePowerOfOneIncome4Life

PS:
Another update will be forthcoming tomorrow on our 2'nd anniversary progress!

Maurice Bernier | Maurice Bernier & The Power Of One to Launch Major New Promotion For Participants! (http://www.ibosocial.com/q4u/blog.aspx?blogid=166370)

[scratchycat]

MagicDolla.com | The Magic of $1 Can Make You Rich (http://ibourl.net/MagicDolla)

It was just recommended to me by our BWF owner Mr. John Kielec whom if you know me well, you know I trust implicitly. He definitely knows how to spot the money makers so if it's good enough for him, then I strongly feel it should be good enough for all of us!

Yes, that is good enough for me also to know to run away as fast as possible from yet another scheme to help John buy another estate for (grandchild). He has to come up with more programs to keep his luxury lifestyle and Maurice is always there to help!!

[path2prosperity]

Scammer of The Week. Amanda R.

Look at the Amanda's picture. Scamlandpro sex symbol or investment advisor? Take a look at her picture and reccommended programs.

type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/members/Katrinazz.aspx

From Amanda's "About me" section of the profile.

QUOTE

"I have taken such enjoyment from helping so many people struggling to make money online, and helping those who are more well off, to find avenues for them to make even more money. It has been very rewarding and nothing makes me smile more than getting a wonderful email from someone who I have helped.

Since I found Zeek, and then Justbeenpaid (Profitclicking) , and then learned the importance of diversifying my investments, and spread my portfolio out more and more ... then gathering good people around me, to share ideas and knowledge, or just there to pick me up when I get down...which happens from time to time lol."

If this is Dennis and JimAllen111 helping BoggyBoy with the their "Person of The WeeK" then even BoggyBoy will probably have kittens at the thought of any more help from those super jerks

[Whip]

I don't see any amanda on that page.

[path2prosperity]

I don't see any amanda on that page.

I checked it and it is right. You need to open a new tab. Type http:// in the new window then

community.adlandpro.com/members/Katrinazz.aspx

The sexy blonde is AmandaR and the "About me" at the top right of the screen is her "biography." She explains how she loves bringing people into programs like JustBeenPaid and Zeek. Let us see how many lust after Amanda and follow her advice.

Amanda's Advice.


http://profitclicking.com
http://ultimatepowerprofits.com
http://www.permanentfund.net
https://avo.net/

[scratchycat]

If this is Dennis and JimAllen111 helping BoggyBoy with the their "Person of The WeeK" then even BoggyBoy will probably have kittens at the thought of any more help from those super jerks

Not really, P2P, he is the Cat praising the kittens helping with SOTW and all his little admirers are just promoting those scammers like crazy.

[path2prosperity]

Where has she posted in RS? Guess I missed it.

Here and in another thread.

Paula's whine. (http://www.realscam.com/f8/does-anybody-remember-maryanne-myers-she-has-been-resurrected-1650/)

[Whip]

I checked it and it is right. You need to open a new tab. Type http:// in the new window then

community.adlandpro.com/members/Katrinazz.aspx

The sexy blonde is AmandaR and the "About me" at the top right of the screen is her "biography." She explains how she loves bringing people into programs like JustBeenPaid and Zeek. Let us see how many lust after Amanda and follow her advice.

Amanda's Advice.


http://profitclicking.com
http://ultimatepowerprofits.com
Welcome to Permanent Fund - Here to stay permanently (http://www.permanentfund.net)
https://avo.net/

Ok. Got it that time. I don't understand the 'new tab' thing but it worked. lol. What is she, like 20?

[littleroundman]

The "Amanda R" profile pic is, in fact that of Katie Nadia "babyfayce" Skadoske (http://daisy1993.bloog.pl/id,5180219,title,Katie-Nadia-Skadoske-Babyfayce,index.html)

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/6379/katiev.gif

[scratchycat]

Thanks LRM for the connection. Adland folks are easily fooled aren't they?? She is probably very much older and not so cute and sexy. Love it!!

[Whip]

The "Amanda R" profile pic is, in fact that of Katie Nadia "babyfayce" Skadoske (http://daisy1993.bloog.pl/id,5180219,title,Katie-Nadia-Skadoske-Babyfayce,index.html)

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/6379/katiev.gif

But, but, but, but, they use their real names and we allegedly know what they look like because they post their pics. They said so. :shocked:

[path2prosperity]

Interesting that this fake model's picture was used so soon after a previous POTW winner (Kathy Hamilton) had to spend two or more years in Scamland retirement after using a model from Eastern Europe instead of her own picture. I will try to dig out a picture of the original Kathy, unless somebody beats me to it, while i am at work.

What a pair of -----? Two women who make polls on Scamland into Farce of The Decade.

[scratchycat]

Oh, I remember that Kathy all right, the Angel of Adland and she has come back making those same proclamations but she now has competition. I don't have a picture except in my head of what she used, maybe someone else does.

I am spreading the truth around to those who will listen...

[scratchycat]

Looks like someone must have read this thread, the picture is gone!!!




Amanda,
You resemble a model on Facebook named Katie Skadoske, did anyone ever tell you that?

LIST ALL YOUR BIZ SITES HERE!
More Than You Ever Wanted To Know About EZ WEALTH SOLUTION!
ADLANDPRO GAZETTE: August 2012

[Whip]

Looks like someone must have read this thread, the picture is gone!!!




Amanda,
You resemble a model on Facebook named Katie Skadoske, did anyone ever tell you that?

LIST ALL YOUR BIZ SITES HERE!
More Than You Ever Wanted To Know About EZ WEALTH SOLUTION!
ADLANDPRO GAZETTE: August 2012

Of course they are.

[path2prosperity]

Oh, I remember that Kathy all right, the Angel of Adland and she has come back making those same proclamations but she now has competition. I don't have a picture except in my head of what she used, maybe someone else does.

I am spreading the truth around to those who will listen...

I am sure that I can find a picture of the original Kathy Hamilton but I must do some cleaning and housework. BoggyBoy got upset about Kathy's picture so it is odd that he lets AmandsR get away with the same thing.

[scratchycat]

This stuff is just too funny to not share it with you in RS. However, please do remember that everyone of them are promoting some kind of scam or program, even if it is only to promote Adland knowing what it harbors.


POTW Feedback

11/14/2012 1:24:29 PM

Hello everyone, following this thread has shown me just how unethical some of you are and I must say I was very disappointed in some of you. I really thought you had more integrity but I guess I was wrong. Just how wrong I was, was made very clear to me recently and especially this morning as I read down through the post history headlines.

All I can say is shame on those of you that have hijacked this thread for your own personal gain and don't try and deny it. The evidence is very clear and I watched a few days ago when it was very politely pointed out but that post was quickly deleted. Which brings up another concern. It appears censorship is now the order of the day. There was no reason to delete that post that stated facts and so I'll be saving this post in case it is deleted.

I had voted for Linda Harvey but since she is ineligible that vote does not count. Not sure, at this point, whether I'll use that vote for one of the other candidates or not and also not sure whether or not I will continue to support the POTW since even the POTW team has assisted in violating the NO ADS rule.

http://tnlady.mysisel.com/en/US/home.htmhttp://www.tnlady.shelfreliance.com/tnlady

Mary Evelyn
Please keep a positive view on what's going on in this forum.
This is a suggestion and Feedback forum.
They haven't posted this in the main POTW forum yet
I'm sure there won't be a bunch of adds in the main POTW forum
Mark is Testing what the new POTW format might look like.
Jim is also testing what might work better for him because he's gotta fight with the old formats that he was having trouble with.
Bogdan and the POTW team will Approve anything Mark Does.
Do not jump the Gun and let them do there thing.
So what do you want in the end for adlandpro and the POTW to go to no % votes.This is the Vibe we are all getting from your post.
This forum is all to help the POTW there will be things we need to look past till the end.Once the end results happen then post what you would like to fix.
If there is anything like ads in the POTW forum once done i will be with you all the way to have them removed.Please let these people do there work for the better of the community.


Thank You
Dennis

Oh PLEASE Dennis, you know as well as I do I was NOT referring to Mark and I resent you even suggesting it. Mark is the only one that has offered any real help without expecting anything in return.

I could not care less about any "Vibe" you may have gotten. I have been a LONG time supporter of the POTW but that very well may change now. You're right when you say this thread is to help the POTW, which was exactly my point and not to be used as someone's personal ad board and you know exactly what I'm referring to so don't try and twist my words to try and make them sound like something they're not. You should be apologizing for your part in it and not trying to cover it up by trying to create a smoke screen and pass the blame to me.

Mary

Your Feedback is noted in regards to the ad you state was giving us personal gain from the POTW Forum
We all have had personal gain by winning the POTW yourself included.
All ads seem to have been deleted in this forum this issue should be closed

Thank You
Dennis

The graphics are great. What I'd like to see is for newer nominees to be properly advised by the person who nominated them, on how to promote themselves, especially by participating in public forums consistently, preferably with non-ad posts, nominees need to be advised on how to gain a loyal fanbase and how to WIN, from their activity in Adlandpro Community, not in Facebook, not by joining a business and letting their biz team vote on them while they don't have any activity themselves.

Also, if the Team/Helpers would hold off on their vote comments until after the poll closes, so as not to sway the vote, because the Team/Helpers have an influence on the voting.

Kathleen
Then why did you post this in the POTW forum if you feel that way?

4-Vote for the 348TH POTW Award, Your Vote is Appreciated | View Thread | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2578856/Vote-for-the-348TH-POTW-Award-Your-Vote-is-Appreciated/4.aspx)


I'm writing in for STEVE BONHAM because I was one of the votes for Linda on the first morning. I decided on Steve because he's the only one of the remaining three who replied to my communications in the last week, and also because he's made many more posts in the last 30 days than the others.
---
Further continuation of discussion pertaining to the topic of members advertising in this forum is closed. Any posts referring to this issue will be deleted. We welcome positive input in reference to the "POTW Feedback" topic and welcome any new members to the discussion.

Admin
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Agreed

Thank You Jim

Dennis

community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2395897/POTW-Feedback/71.aspx

[scratchycat]

UPDATE!!

Told you folks they were reading this thread.


The 348TH POTW Award will Be ReDone With Fully Qualified Candidates

11/16/2012 5:19:06 PM

It has been brought to the admin's attention that our winner was ineligible to receive the POTW Award Nomination. Per the AdlandPro TOS this decison was made. Our apologies, to our supporters and voters.

The 348TH POTW Awards Poll will be posted anew shortly, with qualified nominees to the best of our knowledge. Please contact admin with such information when you have it.
Everyone's participation is greatly appreciated.

Jim

POTW Team
community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2578856/The-NEW-Vote-for-the-348TH-POTW-Awardwill-be-out-shortly/9.aspx

[path2prosperity]

UPDATE!!

Told you folks they were reading this thread.

The 348TH POTW Award will Be ReDone With Fully Qualified Candidates



Fully qualified candidates? I wonder what that means? Active in the scam promoting community?

[path2prosperity]

Dont you just love this .

To see the post made by the original scammer. Type http:// then add community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2580457/Get-your-Free-Ad-Pack-as-a-gift-from-me.aspx?flag=1

Get your Free Ad Pack as a gift from me
11/16/2012 10:45:57 PM
Hi I really would love for you to take a look at this you could start earning the same day.

Sign up free I will give you a free Ad Pack the same time you sign up automatically.

Profit Clicking took over JSS and I am so excited about all the changes there are and will be having. Profit clicking has paid me consistantly sinjce the take over. I have over 2000 ad packs and each time I earn off each of them I just roll it back over. So right now im doing very well plus I do have a huge downline which helps alot so I earn off them as well. I have been in the JSS for almost 1 yrs and I loved JSS but I love Profit Clicking even more. There is so many ways to earn money. Its amazing By this time next year I will have my boat I want to live on. I already am half way there.Yes Im going to buy a Sea Rey and live on it im so excited. Jss and profit clicking has given me the opportunity to continually give me my dreams. I just love that I know I can truly count on Profit clicking.


Profit Clicking :: HOME (http://www.profitclicking.com/?r=simikathy)

Come get your free ad pack and just experience financial freedom, this program is huge and you will get out of debt if your in it. Come make money you will not be sorry. They have every aspect covered, This is the Business I will be in forever.
Profit Clicking :: HOME (http://www.profitclicking.com/?r=simikathy)

Kathy Hamilton/simikathy

[path2prosperity]

I find it hilarious that AmandaR had her POTW award removed for "borrowing" a model's picture but no Scamlander turned a hair about the scam programs which she was advertising on Adlandpro.

This one will be back with a different ID and elected as Scammer of The Week as her top scam picks were pretty choice. All on their last legs and desperate for vulnerable newbies. AmandaR knows how to pick them.

[path2prosperity]

Make Big Bucks. Advice from

Jim Allen (http://path2prosperity.com/images/jimbo.GIF)

[scratchycat]

Good Morning! You are going to hear much more from the 'not so great' little Jimbo now that he is leader of the Scammer of the Week and an administrator, that is if anyone cares to read the bunch of BS going on over there. Just skimming over it sounds like a kindergarten class of idiots making rules for a ridiculous hide 'n' seek game they are getting ready to play.

It is a lot of TOTAL NONSENSE!!

All from the thread of POTW - Scammer of the Week...

[path2prosperity]

Ex-Adlenders should check to see if their names have been removed from Scamland data base. Who would want to be inadvertantly selling his advertising? Any comments on the legitamacy or morality of

BoggyBoy's Gold Program. (http://members.adlandpro.com/advertisers/gold.aspx?TB=ad)

[path2prosperity]

Scamland's Mountain of Love thread is becomming more idiotic every day. According to one ponzi promoter, Mountaineers have recruited J F Kennedy who is travelling on their spaceships, showering his (PLATONIC I HOPE) love to all earthlings.

To see Kennedy's message of love and the idiot ProfitClicking shill who cares to spew this trash, scroll to the bottom of page 3471 to see that "Reborn Kennedy and Co" need your donations.

Type http:// then add

community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/569870/A-Journey-to-the-Mountain-of-Love/3471.aspx

[Zapticon]

Just wanted to contribute with a definition of MLM from Jon M Taylor. It's from his ebook Case (for and) against MLM:

"Multi-level marketing (MLM) is a purported income opportunity, in which products are sold by recruitment of persons who are incentivized to recruit others in endless chains of participants, who must buy products to qualify for commissions and to advance upward through multiple levels in company-sponsored pyramids of participants.

Further – With unlimited recruitment, MLM assumes both infinite and virgin markets, neither of which exists in the real world. MLM is therefore inherently flawed, unfair and deceptive. It can also be extremely viral and predatory.

Prospects are typically lured into MLM with exaggerated product and income claims, but rewards are stacked in favor of those at or near the top of the pyramid, who are often the first ones to join. Since the vast majority of participants lose money, most of them eventually drop out, to be replaced by a continual stream of new recruits, who are likewise destined for loss and disappointment."

In my own opinion, every company using the MLM-model to some extent, is deceiving lots of people in what they can expect. They have two options: sell lots of products and be a classic salesman or recruit people and make them sell and give you commissions. Of course, there is a middle way, but I believe many focus on one or the other.

The bottom line is that two or more levels of distributors shouldn't be necessary, as they have people above them managing them, which is their primary job. In MLM, the sales people eventually become the leaders as well as sales people. It's kind of like an all-in-one job where you are the executive, salesman, organization leader, but also an IBO. Just weird. The 1979 decision of FTC vs Amway was truly what keeps MLM alive today.

[scratchycat]

Zapticon, here is a portion from a site that has a lot of good information and this one is in reference to MLM - which is also discussed in another thread, as you know. But Scamland members advertise these in their signatures and forums.

"Newsletter/Conference Looks at MLM as a "Financial Product"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

TJ Strategies, a higher education and consumer finance policy newsletter that is read widely by investors, advocates, and policymakers, recently hosted a roundtable discussion that included discussion of possible new scrutiny of the multi-level marketing industry.

The event was the semiannual "Higher Education and Consumer Finance Policy Conference", held November 15 in Washington, DC. In the afternoon session entitled, "The Outlook for Consumer Protection Policy" a panel of experts and analysts discussed, among other subjects, the potential of multi-level marketing being regulated by the new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) for selling a "financial product", i.e., work-at-home "distributorships."

Boston-based attorney Douglas Brooks participated as an invited member of the panel. He is a nationally recognized expert on multi-level marketing, franchises and "business opportunity" offerings. Douglas Brooks brought successful class action lawsuits against the multi-level marketing companies, Herbalife and Nu Skin, winning millions of dollars in restitution for victims who invested as "distributors."

Others invited to participate on the panel included, Jonah Crane, the Financial Services Aide to Senator Chuck Schumer; Matthew Lapinski, from the law firm, SNR Denton; Ed Mierzwinski, Federal Consumer Program Director and Senior Fellow, U.S. PIRG; and a Staffer from the Office of Senator Elect Elizabeth Warren.

The Washington, DC panel of government leaders, policy analysts and news media marks a growing new interest in regulation of multi-level marketing and the negative economic impact of MLM companies on consumers. More information is available from the conference host, T. J. Strategies."

Pyramid Scheme Alert (http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?llr=7rspqdcab&v=001BowwB-ubI_EvWD4wecYdderh1IQDOl4RxT2QhC1S6G9txfrXkFID0fT7 9HcarVPcpcbX371h46AqiwegpJuUGqJkWHhUO9x4pm1dILcYeD s%3D)

[scratchycat]

Scamland's Mountain of Love thread is becomming more idiotic every day. According to one ponzi promoter, Mountaineers have recruited J F Kennedy who is travelling on their spaceships, showering his (PLATONIC I HOPE) love to all earthlings.

To see Kennedy's message of love and the idiot ProfitClicking shill who cares to spew this trash, scroll to the bottom of page 3471 to see that "Reborn Kennedy and Co" need your donations.

Type http:// then add

community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/569870/A-Journey-to-the-Mountain-of-Love/3471.aspx

So they have located JFK and he is on a spaceship!!??? It can't get much better than that unless they actually face the true God and he sets them straight!!! Now the aliens are going Profit Clicking??!! Too funny, maybe it will scare people into seeing the idiocracy of the scheme and keep them from joining. We can always HOPE!

[scratchycat]

Ex-Adlenders should check to see if their names have been removed from Scamland data base. Who would want to be inadvertantly selling his advertising? Any comments on the legitamacy or morality of

BoggyBoy's Gold Program. (http://members.adlandpro.com/advertisers/gold.aspx?TB=ad)

The Gold keeps the money coming in to support the useless website.

"P.S. The Adlandpro Gold Member Package gives you so much for so little of an investment that it almost doesn't make sense to look anywhere else. Similar sites sell this type of package for well over $80.00 per month and they don't even include access to a budding and busy online community of business owners just like yourself. For only $24.95 a month, can you afford not to try this service?"

Which further means that any person who is a member (whether gold or not) is another advertiser and promoter of Scamland and therefore you are a part of the scheme.

[scratchycat]

If Diane is good to go i"m Proud to nominate Diane for the nearest POTW line up.

Is she?? I will be disappointed but then I have been disappointed before...

Diane Bjorling

Diane Bjorling | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/members/helgit.aspx)

all from the scammer of the week forum (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2388221/POTW-Eligible-Member-Suggestions/31.aspx)

[scratchycat]

Could we have a possible Facebook proposal here??

Hi All,

As I'm following flow of ideas here and discussion, I'm realizing that there is something special taking place here. There is an active participation of members of this community to introduce ideas and improvements which will benefit all. I'm realizing that there is brainstorming taking place and sort of team is emerging.

I want you to know that I follow all posts and now I'm at the point of writing down all the good points made here. We are currently working on layout changes to the site and some changes will be appearing if not this than next week on the main classified site. After this changes will be applied to the community. After that we will be able to start implementing some of the best ideas proposed here. This would be probably giving automatic number of friends to new sign ups and then promoting it. I know that this is a feature which potentially can be abused.

I would like to think of a way that community members are owners of this place and direct beneficiaries of the effort and input provided during discussions like this.

I would like to see such discussion and workable suggestions, how such system could be accomplished. System of co-ownership by members.

I know that I myself can accomplish very little but if good will is combined and best ideas worked out, we can create things which are unimaginable right now.

If some bases for this discussion are started here, we could move it to a new thread in different forum to continue.

Bogdan

So come on members you now have a chance to own a bit of Scamland, how enticing can that be!!??

http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2395897/POTW-Feedback/90.aspx

[Whip]

Can't be very many posts/members of he can follow them all.

[path2prosperity]

The Gold keeps the money coming in to support the useless website.

"P.S. The Adlandpro Gold Member Package gives you so much for so little of an investment that it almost doesn't make sense to look anywhere else. Similar sites sell this type of package for well over $80.00 per month and they don't even include access to a budding and busy online community of business owners just like yourself. For only $24.95 a month, can you afford not to try this service?"

Which further means that any person who is a member (whether gold or not) is another advertiser and promoter of Scamland and therefore you are a part of the scheme.

Hi scratchy,

I can't read the part of your post that you posted in yellow. Please can you paste it again in black.

One of the first things that I did when I joined Scamland, was to test their gold program for two months. It was absolutely useless so I cancelled my membership. I may have advertised a gold program URL for a few days but it was so obviously without any value whatsoever that I dropped it. There were loads and loads of links to CoreyRudl's marketing methods, which I considered extremely dubious.

I did open a RS thread about CoryRudl over a year ago but there were not many members here who remembered that era. Was Fiedur a true believer in CoreyRudl or a pimp? That is (in my opinion) the million dollar question about Scamlandpro.

[path2prosperity]

So they have located JFK and he is on a spaceship!!??? It can't get much better than that. Too funny, maybe it will scare people into seeing the idiocracy of the scheme and keep them from joining. We can always HOPE!

I find it hard to believe that anybody who allows this "Mountain" crap in a social networking site, has any intention of keeping the place alive. BoggyBoy may allow it in the hopes that Scamland will die a natural death rather than getting the place closed down by legal authorities.

[path2prosperity]

Is she?? I will be disappointed but then I have been disappointed before...

Diane Bjorling

Diane Bjorling | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/members/helgit.aspx)

all from the scammer of the week forum (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2388221/POTW-Eligible-Member-Suggestions/31.aspx)

They will all vote for this one this time round and she will win. The woman does not appear to have been a scam promoter so she makes a useful pawn for some of those sharks.

[scratchycat]

Can't be very many posts/members of he can follow them all.

:RpS_smile: Did Dennis write that for him I wonder?? Well maybe not, the spelling is too good.

[scratchycat]

Hi scratchy,

I can't read the part of your post that you posted in yellow. Please can you paste it again in black.

One of the first things that I did when I joined Scamland, was to test their gold program for two months. It was absolutely useless so I cancelled my membership. I may have advertised a gold program URL for a few days but it was so obviously without any value whatsoever that I dropped it. There were loads and loads of links to CoreyRudl's marketing methods, which I considered extremely dubious.

I did open a RS thread about CoryRudl over a year ago but there were not many members here who remembered that era. Was Fiedur a true believer in CoreyRudl or a pimp? That is (in my opinion) the million dollar question about Scamlandpro.

The Gold keeps the money coming in to support the useless website.

[path2prosperity]

The Gold keeps the money coming in to support the useless website.

I was ten years ago that I gave Scamland's gold program a try and found it utterly useless. I find it hard to believe that anybody would pay nearly $30 a month for advertising on Scamland. Avoid BoggyBoy's "Gold" like the plague.

[path2prosperity]

Transcript of Archangel Michael on Persistent Questions Relating to Ascension and a Roundtable – Part 1/2

To read this crap.

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/569870/A-Journey-to-the-Mountain-of-Love/3473.aspx

Messages from Archangels and J F Kennedy on a spaceship in one week! Note that the authours of this rubbish are all promoting Profit Clicking.

[path2prosperity]

POTW prizes include promotion on Kathy Hamilton's radio show.

What a ghastly thought for any Scamland member who is idiot enought to get his or herself nominated for the award. This should kill off members who may have considered accepting the title.

[littleroundman]

POTW prizes include promotion on Kathy Hamilton's radio show.


That's last prize, what does the first prize winner get, then ??

[path2prosperity]

That's last prize, what does the first prize winner get, then ??

Same! Exposure on Kathy's radio talk show.

There are numerous people who remember how hard Kathy promoted Jake Amadee and Todd Heaps on that show. The Kathy woman has been above the radar for long enough for legal authorities to have her in their records. Both Jake and Todd could have her to thank for their residing in "Cyberspace Limbo" now.

[scratchycat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbQwHbQXq3M

What do you think?

[scratchycat]

We look forward to our continuing co-creations with you!

Namaste, Susan and Fran

We welcome donations to support our work. I just bet they do!!
All proceeds go to support our services.

http://www.ashtarontheroad.com/ - http://www.ashtarontheroad.info/http://www.wethepeopleforpeace.org/


"WE HAVE ASKED SUSAN TO SERVE AS A VOICE FOR ME AND OTHERS IN OUR FAMILY, FOR WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE ARE ALL ONE IN FAMILY. THERE ARE OTHER VOICES, BUT THIS WEBSITE CONTAINS THE MESSAGES GIVEN THROUGH HER. IT ALSO HAS NEWS AND INFORMATION ABOUT ACTIVITIES BY AND FOR THE GROUP WHICH I HAVE NAMED 'ASHTAR ON THE ROAD.' WE INVITE YOU TO READ OUR MESSAGES HERE AND TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS GROUP, IF YOU ARE SO MOVED.

Message From JFK

"Greetings, My Fellow Citizens of the World! On this day of Thanksgiving, it is well for us to remember times past. This is not for grieving or sorrow of any kind, but rather to be thankful for the Wisdoms which those people and events have taught us. In this way, we can take this very day to create all the days which will follow. We have, on this Day of Gratitude, the very brightest opportunity yet to shine forth the Wisdoms of Home!

"When I speak of Home, it is in the High Energy of our very origins, and the name of this Energy is, of course, Love! For the Torch has been passed to us by our ancestors, some of whom actually include us in our former identities, and it is for us to carry out the mission of Homecoming, so long awaited in this World. You, the Ground Crew, the Lightworkers, are the true "Profiles in Courage," for you have dared to rise into the Higher Wisdom of Love, and it is only from this perspective that true Peace on Earth can prevail!!!

"I and my Earth Family have been among those who endeavored to keep the Torch lit, and it now burns forever, not only on the place where I am remembered, but in the Hearts of all of you! Listen, and perhaps you will hear there the music of Camelot!* For even those of you who came after I left the 3D World's stage -you know me, and I know you. We Are One in our service, and we are true to the shining ideals which Love gives us - unconditional, compassionate, giving and forgiving! And this is our brightest time ever to remember Who We Are, and to lead the way Home. From my place upon the starship, I accompany you on the Path as we hold high the Torch of Love, inviting all to share in the Freedom of its Wisdom! Blessings and Namaste!"

* Camelot - Original Song 1960
Given through Susan Leland, November 22, 2012
------------

Somebody please tell me it is not true - they have really not contacted our late President J. F. Kennedy, have they?? :shocked:

[scratchycat]

That's last prize, what does the first prize winner get, then ??

Here you go LRM, is it worth it??
Your choice of one of the two options below:

Option # 1

The Social Network Registration package gives you access to Millions of Potential Customers as you are registered to 49 social networks. Through search engines, blog spiders, social network searches, the real visitors to those networks will find your profile and see the products or services you are offering.


We can put you there, setup and register you so you can work on your profile and get started, you can access these social network sites with your My Networks page that will allow you to access each account. This will provide you with an unfair advantage over your competition.

AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/SocialNetworks.aspx)

or

Option #2:

The winner of this week's contest will have his/her ad posted to 80,000 recipients through our business or marketing promotional newsletter. These two newsletters are published and mailed out alternately every Wednesday and reach over 80,000 viewers. Another bonus is it’s saved in our archive section so your ad is available for years to search engines and to viewers who are reading our archives.

Marketing Newsletter: Adlandpro OPT-IN A R C H I V E S - Free Marketing & Promotion Newsletter (http://www.adlandpro.com/opt-in-list/archives/marketing/default.asp)

Business Newsletter: Adlandpro OPT-IN A R C H I V E S - Free Internet Business Building Newsletter (http://www.adlandpro.com/opt-in-list/archives/business/default.asp)

Scammers Paradise!!

Vote for the 348TH POTW Award Winner Your Vote Appreciated | View Thread | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2580482/Vote-for-the-348TH-POTW-Award-Winner-Your-Vote-Appreciated.aspx?flag=31)

[path2prosperity]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbQwHbQXq3M

What do you think?

You beat me to it "scratchy."

I was just about to put up the link and describe it as "Bogdan's Complete Goof."

He has made a Facebook page and he can delete what he wants from that Facebook group but he can not delete comments from Facebook itself. Fiedur sychopants who try to curry his favour will have to face the fact that we "RealScammers" will be able to read all the clap trap and copy it over here.

[path2prosperity]

I have been banned from Adlanders in Facebook. (http://www.facebook.com/groups/adlanders/?fref=ts)

However Facebook Has not banned me from reading or copying and pasting anything that is posted in the Adlanders in Facebook Group.

PROOF. Today's postings in Adlanders in Facebook.

"AdLandpro community is where some of us met. In an effort to keep in touch with our friends who spend more time here or...See more


Arild Haukeland
I believe in Health, Wellness & Beauty, a industry that growing EVERY DAY.

Because of my health I had to move to the Philippines, where I also found my love and now wife. Therefore I am honored to be invited to this company / opportunity who has worked 6 years and build 1000`s of millionaries, where only Philippines, UEA and Taiwan is represented.

As I know 1000`s of networkers all over the world who will be happy to be the first in their country representing Awarded Superbrand- and Halal-approved products in this cetegory, I will see many more millionaries comming fast.
...See more
6 hours ago
Seen by 2
Pauline Raina
I should have added this to the previous poll posted there, however it didn't come to mind then but guess its never to late;as I see friends who have voted 'wont go' are still active there & posting :) so of the members of this group here Are you still there?....

Still there in ALP & active


Still there but not active."

Won't it be fun to see who wins the contest for BoggyBoy's top sychophant. One "Lucky Adlander" according to BoggyBoy

[scratchycat]

I would not be too concerned about it P2P. I left the group because I knew I would be posting something they might not like. Yes, Arild is into that health thing. I have not been there lately, not really interested... However their leader is making a big splash in cyber world but getting involved in everything available out there. Things must be desperate these days.

Bogdan Fiedur | Bogdan Fiedur, Entrepreneur and CEO of Adlandpro (http://bogdanfiedur.wordpress.com/)

"Adlandpro affiliates can earn up to $10,000 per month through the verified affiliate program. According to one Adlandpro affiliate, “I was worried about spending for the cost of that ad, but it was a much better price than I had expected for the amount of traffic that comes in! I earn $30 per sale of the service I’m advertising, and I made back the cost almost immediately! I have tracking for my site and every day AdlandPro showed up consistently as the place where people clicked! It brought in 50% of my traffic! I post a great deal of ads on Yahoo and send to dozens of opt-in lists every day and post to bulletin boards, even with all of that, the AdlandPro button-ad attracted 50% of my hits!”

Do you believe that?

[path2prosperity]

I would not be too concerned about it P2P. I left the group because I knew I would be posting something they might not like. Yes, Arild is into that health thing. I have not been there lately, not really interested... However their leader is making a big splash in cyber world but getting involved in everything available out there. Things must be desperate these days.

Bogdan Fiedur | Bogdan Fiedur, Entrepreneur and CEO of Adlandpro (http://bogdanfiedur.wordpress.com/)

"Adlandpro affiliates can earn up to $10,000 per month through the verified affiliate program. According to one Adlandpro affiliate, “I was worried about spending for the cost of that ad, but it was a much better price than I had expected for the amount of traffic that comes in! I earn $30 per sale of the service I’m advertising, and I made back the cost almost immediately! I have tracking for my site and every day AdlandPro showed up consistently as the place where people clicked! It brought in 50% of my traffic! I post a great deal of ads on Yahoo and send to dozens of opt-in lists every day and post to bulletin boards, even with all of that, the AdlandPro button-ad attracted 50% of my hits!”

Do you believe that?

Boggy's Blog? Caveat Emptor

[path2prosperity]

I would not be too concerned about it P2P. I left the group because I knew I would be posting something they might not like. Yes, Arild is into that health thing. I have not been there lately, not really interested... However their leader is making a big splash in cyber world but getting involved in everything available out there. Things must be desperate these days.

Bogdan Fiedur | Bogdan Fiedur, Entrepreneur and CEO of Adlandpro (http://bogdanfiedur.wordpress.com/)

"Adlandpro affiliates can earn up to $10,000 per month through the verified affiliate program. According to one Adlandpro affiliate, “I was worried about spending for the cost of that ad, but it was a much better price than I had expected for the amount of traffic that comes in! I earn $30 per sale of the service I’m advertising, and I made back the cost almost immediately! I have tracking for my site and every day AdlandPro showed up consistently as the place where people clicked! It brought in 50% of my traffic! I post a great deal of ads on Yahoo and send to dozens of opt-in lists every day and post to bulletin boards, even with all of that, the AdlandPro button-ad attracted 50% of my hits!”

Do you believe that?

The point is, that some of the newbies believe that posts which have been deleted from Adlandpro have been deleted from The Internet. Perhaps some will start realising that BoggyBoy can not delete evidence from The Internet now that we have shown that he can't even delete any comments from Facebook.

[scratchycat]

Boggy's Blog? Caveat Emptor

Had to go look that one up!!

Let the buyer beware

Yes! Yes!

[path2prosperity]

Had to go look that one up!!

Let the buyer beware

Yes! Yes!


Adlandpro "Person of The Week" votes include those from Scamland's porn merchants.

Scamlander Akihow (http://path2prosperity.com/images/scamlandakihow.GIF)

Akihow Adlandpro POTW Voter (http://path2prosperity.com/images/potwakithow.GIF).

Akihow's Artwork (http://www.path2prosperity.com/images/akihow.GIF)

[path2prosperity]

Is she?? I will be disappointed but then I have been disappointed before...

Diane Bjorling

Diane Bjorling | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/members/helgit.aspx)

all from the scammer of the week forum (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2388221/POTW-Eligible-Member-Suggestions/31.aspx)

I read her posts in Facebook saying that she had never seen any porn promoted on Adlandpro, so I copied it some of the crap here.

Boggy can delete the posts from his own servers once that a RS member has picked it up but he can not delete the evidence from mine Dianne.

[scratchycat]

Was following your links there P2P and found this little item:


RE: POTW Eligible Member Suggestions

11/23/2012 3:49:58 PM


Hello Adlanders and Friends,

All the activity and suggestions happening in these threads and the POTW Feedback and Award forums is truly amazing. Adlanders are coming together and discussing ways to improve not only the POTW but AdlandPro itself. Bogdan is even keeping track and is invested in these discussions. Thank you all and its good to be able to have a discussion where we are actually brainstorming and Masterminding together.
With all that said, I have been thinking about the POTY Award that fast coming upon us. We have a list of this year's winners posted within this forum. Please look at this and start start forming your opinions and nominees for POTY Award this year.

I am going out on a limb and I plan to Nominate Jill Bachman for POTY. Jill passed away recently and I believe she should be honored in this way for her contributions to this community and her forum that lives on Attitude is Everything | View Forum | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/forum/9754/Attitude-is-Everything.aspx) Especially thyis thread "Journey to the Mountain of Love" A Journey to the Mountain of Love | View Thread | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/569870/A-Journey-to-the-Mountain-of-Love.aspx?flag=17358jallen3d)

Over the years I read this forum and was often banned from it and reinstated. Jill and I had good rapport with one another away from ALP, working through our disagreements. But we did and I am thankful to have known this unique person. Whether we agreed or not on various talking points. She was a unique person and deserves the honor of POTY this year. IMHO "

Actually banned several times...---
From someone who has not been around much lately:

I second Nellie for being nominated. I can tell you from experience, that is a lady that shines and keeps on giving to others

What a crock the whole thing is from top to bottom. Have they all been totally brainwashed by Bogan??
If only they could see how ridiculous they look by promoting this cesspool of scam programs, Ponzis, Pyramid schemes and MLMs not to mention the xxx-rated artist mentioned above.


Thanks Diane! And BTW I really like that you have accepted Dennis's nomination. This looks like it is going to be an attractive campaign with some the best nominees we have ever had. It is going to be a fun warm and fuzzy week ahead. Huggs and Blessings, Ken

Can't you just feel the glow of scammers loving scammers!! If you are there and promoting Scamlandpro, you are one of them, sorry.

[path2prosperity]

Was following your links there P2P and found this little item:


RE: POTW Eligible Member Suggestions

11/23/2012 3:49:58 PM


Hello Adlanders and Friends,

All the activity and suggestions happening in these threads and the POTW Feedback and Award forums is truly amazing. Adlanders are coming together and discussing ways to improve not only the POTW but AdlandPro itself. Bogdan is even keeping track and is invested in these discussions. Thank you all and its good to be able to have a discussion where we are actually brainstorming and Masterminding together.
With all that said, I have been thinking about the POTY Award that fast coming upon us. We have a list of this year's winners posted within this forum. Please look at this and start start forming your opinions and nominees for POTY Award this year.

I am going out on a limb and I plan to Nominate Jill Bachman for POTY. Jill passed away recently and I believe she should be honored in this way for her contributions to this community and her forum that lives on Attitude is Everything | View Forum | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/forum/9754/Attitude-is-Everything.aspx) Especially thyis thread "Journey to the Mountain of Love" A Journey to the Mountain of Love | View Thread | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/569870/A-Journey-to-the-Mountain-of-Love.aspx?flag=17358jallen3d)

Over the years I read this forum and was often banned from it and reinstated. Jill and I had good rapport with one another away from ALP, working through our disagreements. But we did and I am thankful to have known this unique person. Whether we agreed or not on various talking points. She was a unique person and deserves the honor of POTY this year. IMHO "

Actually banned several times...---
From someone who has not been around much lately:

I second Nellie for being nominated. I can tell you from experience, that is a lady that shines and keeps on giving to others

What a crock the whole thing is from top to bottom. Have they all been totally brainwashed by Bogan??
If only they could see how ridiculous they look by promoting this cesspool of scam programs, Ponzis, Pyramid schemes and MLMs not to mention the xxx-rated artist mentioned above.



Can't you just feel the glow of scammers loving scammers!! If you are there and promoting Scamlandpro, you are one of them, sorry.

I think that their nomination of Jill Bachman for their Person of The Year POTY award, is the most heartless and dispicable ploy.

Jill Bachman was a serial scam promoter. We know that but she died and left a husband and children who loved her. She was a fool in the sense that she kept her mouth shut and thought that her stupidity would slip off the radar screen and all would be forgotton. Her grieving relatives will have to face legal authorities who want her ill gotten gains returned but placing her activities in the full glare of public opinion stinks to high heaven.

I am absolutely disgusted at those who want her family to suffer from the awful stigma of being Scamlandpro Person of The Year. Perhaps some Adlander will stop this deliberate cruelty.

The legal authorities are going to cause enough stress for those she leaves behind. This publicity is nauseating. How low can Scamlanders sink?

[path2prosperity]

How can the idiots nominate "Nellie" for their POTY award? "Nellie" has only joined Adlandpro recently.

LaNell lost her nerve and left Adlandpro. At least that is what the records say. Who is this "nellie" the idiots want as Person of The Year? Can LaNell who left Scamland have come to life again?

[path2prosperity]

I thought that Scamland claimed that they had got rid of the well known model's picture, which was being used by Scamland member AmandaR.

She is still there fooling Adlandpro and ClickVoyager.

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2579770/Join-Amandas-CV-Team-and-receive-10000-Credits.aspx?flag=2baldyken2001

IS BOGDAN CLEANING UP SCAMLAND BOYS AND GIRLS?

[scratchycat]

Because they are idiots, P2P, nothing else. The whole place stinks to High Heaven and I am well out of there and on to better things. It is not worth my time anymore. Maybe some online detectives or cyber cops can control it but it makes me feel bad to even go there. Life has much more to offer, let them steam in their own ridiculousness.

[path2prosperity]

Because they are idiots, P2P, nothing else. The whole place stinks to High Heaven and I am well out of there and on to better things. It is not worth my time anymore. Maybe some online detectives or cyber cops can control it but it makes me feel bad to even go there. Life has much more to offer, let them steam in their own ridiculousness.

I think that dropping the discussion at this stage would be a great mistake "scratchy." Jill Bachman's unfortunate demise has been such a "blessing” for BoggyBoy that he could acquire several coats of whitewash in one fell swoop. Perhaps SBM, Eagle, or PpBlog will help us out.

Jill Bachman was reputed to have at least two multi millionaires in her ASD downline. That fact appears to be well documented. Was BoggyBoy one of those? We may not ever know the answer to that but everybody who did benefit, is known to legal authorities after the US Secret Service raid. If BoggyBoy was in Jill’s downline, the legal authorities may be looking for clawbacks from Jill’s estate and from BoggyBoy.

I do not know enough about the law to understand the legal implications but there are some situations where a deceased person’s estate has to pay the deceased person's debts. This may apply to clawbacks from Jill’s ill gotten gains.

The least that BoggyBoy can do for Jill Bachman's grieving family is to withdraw her nomination for the POTW award in his cyber sewer.

[path2prosperity]

It was about a year ago that SBM uncovered pages of hard porn sex ads in Scamlandpro. The situation seems to have gone from bad to worse when we see that now porn promoters are allowed to vote in their Person of The Week elections.

[Soapboxmom]

Broker Jones Forex scammer extraordinaire bombed out at That Free Thing:

http://www.realscam.com/f12/oceanside-equity-partners-broker-jones-calls-our-own-bunky-soapboxmom-cawits-383/index12.html#post7878

http://www.realscam.com/f12/oceanside-equity-partners-broker-jones-calls-our-own-bunky-soapboxmom-cawits-383/index13.html#post8645

http://www.realscam.com/f12/oceanside-equity-partners-broker-jones-calls-our-own-bunky-soapboxmom-cawits-383/index16.html#post9408

TFT was an almost instant bust even for that experienced MLM promoter. So, it is no surprise the losers still populating Adlandpro are pushing that silly deal!:loser:

[path2prosperity]

Broker Jones Forex scammer extraordinaire bombed out at That Free Thing:
TFT was an almost instant bust even for that experienced MLM promoter. So, it is no surprise the losers still populating Adlandpro are pushing that silly deal!:loser:

Most of them are pushing ProfitClicking SBM. It might help to make a list of those Scamlanders who are on the ProfitClicking and JustBeenPaid bandwaggons.

[path2prosperity]

It really is time for RealScam member Dave Cottrell (RS member klagoosh) to decide where he stands with Scamlandpro. I quote his attempt to whitewash Adlandpro, which was pasted the in the Scam Hotline group in Facebook. (http://www.facebook.com/groups/shotline)

Quote Dave Cottrell RS member "klagoosh"

"Dave Cottrell BTW, I HAVE checked out ALP rather thoroughly lately, due to questions that have been put to me, and I have also investigated several of the 'scambusting' websites. ALP comes up far cleaner than I expected any social site to come up, whereas I found things out about many of the much touted antiscam sites that would make your drill sergeant blush. I am not interested in getting into a war with any of these sites, most of whose members, I am sure, are unaware of their naughty secrets, but if anyone wants to dig, the internet does not erase secrets. In fact, the number of people I know who could erase their tracks on the internet I can count on one hand with most of my fingers missing..."

It is my opinion that Dave Cotterell is trying to whitewash Adlandpro for no reason other than that he is maling money or trying to make money from Bogdan Fiedur's extremely questionable gold member program.

Classified Adland
(http://www.classifiedadland.com/advertising-resources/alpgold/#.ULNtOdlCCnA)
I have screenshots of this so there is no need to try and delete the evidence Dave.

Cottrell (http://path2prosperity.com/images/cottrell.GIF)
Cotrell2 (http://path2prosperity.com/images/cottrell2.GIF)
Cottrell3 (http://path2prosperity.com/images/cottrell3.GIF)

I ask RS menbers to think and post opinions, as to why somebody who promotes Adlandpro's Gold Member Program like Dave Cottrell "klagoosh", is so acvtively promoting the notion that it does no good to expose Adlandpro.

If Dave is earning from Adlandpro is he a scambuster or a "Scamlandpro Mole?"

[path2prosperity]

Dave states that the Internet does not give up it's secrets. It certainly does not Dave. Perhaps you would like to tell us about the first Adlandpro exclusive paid autosurf. ie Lucky7surf. How many were conned into that adlandpro scam Dave? Linda Harvey was devastated because she had introduced more than forty members of her local church, who all lost money. It caused her unspeakable distress.

You know the name of the owner of that program along with the name of their one and only moderator. If you want to play silly Buggers and try to remain on both sides of the Adlandpro fence, you can do so, but do not think that you can mess with us at RealScam. If you want to help and not try to whitewash Scamlandpro, you can tell us what you know about Lucky7surf.

I am very sorry that I introduced "klagoosh" to RealScam. I was fool enough to believe that this leopard had changed its spots.

[scratchycat]

Dave states that the Internet does not give up it's secrets. It certainly does not Dave. Perhaps you would like to tell us about the first Adlandpro exclusive paid autosurf. ie Lucky7surf. How many were conned into that adlandpro scam Dave? Linda Harvey was devastated because she had introduced more than forty members of her local church, who all lost money. It caused her unspeakable distress.

You know the name of the owner of that program along with the name of their one and only moderator. If you want to play silly Buggers and try to remain on both sides of the Adlandpro fence, you can do so, but do not think that you can mess with us at RealScam. If you want to help and not try to whitewash Scamlandpro, you can tell us what you know about Lucky7surf.

I am very sorry that I introduced "klagoosh" to RealScam. I was fool enough to believe that this leopard had changed its spots.

There is no need to be sorry for a person joining RS. We have many spies as members here but I won't classify klagoosh as one yet. Perhaps after suffering from such a devastating illness he is just getting back on his feet and trying to learn many things quickly. You remember a little about that I believe.

While I have noticed and read the comments in Scam Hotline FB, I was a little miffed myself by some of them. I refuse to get into a personal public attack with others unless of course when I am bullied and then I will stand my ground. The ways of you RS members who have been doing this for a long time seems a little harsh to some of us newbies but I have witnessed that you get the job done and that proves it is effective.

[path2prosperity]

There is no need to be sorry for a person joining RS. We have many spies as members here but I won't classify klagoosh as one yet. Perhaps after suffering from such a devastating illness he is just getting back on his feet and trying to learn many things quickly. You remember a little about that I believe.

While I have noticed and read the comments in Scam Hotline FB, I was a little miffed myself by some of them. I refuse to get into a personal public attack with others unless of course when I am bullied and then I will stand my ground. The ways of you RS members who have been doing this for a long time seems a little harsh to some of us newbies but I have witnessed that you get the job done and that proves it is effective.

"klagoosh" promotes Bogdon Fiedur's Adlandpro Gold program. I have stated that somebody who tries to make money from Adlandpro is deeply predudiced when he says that Adlandpro is one of the cleanest social sites he has come accross. I stand by that opinion.

[scratchycat]

"klagoosh" promotes Bogdon Fiedur's Adlandpro Gold program. I have stated that somebody who tries to make money from Adlandpro is deeply predudiced when he says that Adlandpro is one of the cleanest social sites he has come accross. I stand by that opinion.

Well I certainly state that Adlandpro Scamlandpro is one of the WORST website I have come across.

[path2prosperity]

Well I certainly state that Adlandpro Scamlandpro is one of the WORST website I have come across.

I agree with that "scratchy" and I think that their gold program is the biggest rip off on the site. I do not trust anybody who promotes this crap. I joined it in 2002 or 2003 and discovered that it was utterly useless.

Adlandpro Gold Member Package (http://members.adlandpro.com/advertisers/gold.aspx).

Start Here --->

Have Questions? Want to Order By Phone? Call Us Toll-Free:
1-866-254-7228

Somebody living in North America could try and find out if the telephone line is genuine or not.

Sincerely,

Bogdan Fiedur, CEO of Adlandpro



P.S. The Adlandpro Gold Member Package gives you so much for so little of an investment that it almost doesn't make sense to look anywhere else. Similar sites sell this type of package for well over $80.00 per month and they don't even include access to a budding and busy online community of business owners just like yourself. For only $24.95 a month, can you afford not to try this service?

[scratchycat]

Okay, here it is folks. I see manipulation going on by the new administrator and person in charge of POTW. The fake members are coming to vote, coming in out of the woodwork and hidden accounts of Scamland, just as what happened in 2007/8 when Jim Allen and Peter Fogel were 'in charge'. They have so many duplicate accounts and fake accounts the voting will be controlled by Jim Allen, just as he did it then. Bogdan either does not care or is too stupid to admit it. He and his pal Peter drove all those people off back then and now you are letting them regain that control. How stupid can you get!?? I have a suggestion, give it to them and add in their little friend your potty queen. Then you can kiss your oh so not social community goodbye!! The way you chose to run that place is beyond my wildest imagination, just as you did when you chose to fight RealScam.

Hyacinth King | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/members/hyakya.aspx)


female

Member Since

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 (check that date!!)

Last Activity

Saturday, November 24, 2012 (check date again!)

Location

Portmore, S.T.Catherine, Jamaica

and another

Joe Wissler | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/members/18135.aspx)
Notice this person has not posted since 2000 and they come back in to VOTE! PLEASE!!

Oh no, look what else I found!!

ADP Activity | View Thread | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2574695/ADP-Activity.aspx?flag=6)

Dave Cottrell

Dave Cottrell | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/members/6587.aspx)




Dave Has been fighting Lyme disease for almost five years, and it has taken a lot out of him

Dave says = I am finally starting to perk up a bit. :)

Dave has always been an active member of adlandpro and a great Person to add to your list of friends

Regards
Dennis

This is a wonderful idea and a great forum. This topic alone peeked my curiosity so much that I had to come and see what this is all about. Great wording that grabs your attention & gets you here! The 349th POTW is open for voting. Thanks so much, Steve It's Time TO Vote for the 349TH POTW Award Winner | View Thread | AdlandPro Community (http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2582096/Its-Time-TO-Vote-for-the-349TH-POTW-Award-Winner.aspx)

Steve, I think it is working and you just might be the winner of Scammer of the Week!

Diane you must not have convinced Jimbo yet, he will make you wait to be a winner but your time is coming...

[path2prosperity]

Why have you not done anything about DeJesus Bogdan? Almost all your community were up in arms about your allowing this man to spam all the members ad nauseum.

Francisco DeJesus.

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2580191/Are-you-taking-small-steps-to-success-or-are-you-wasting-your-life.aspx?flag=1

[scratchycat]

Lyme disease - PubMed Health (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0002296/)

I don't think anyone would fake this disease but I know worse has taken place. Guess when you get in the business of fighting scam and see what some of these crooks can do, you get suspicious of anyone.

It would get me highly upset if someone said I faked a bout with shingles! Oh that was horrible and I still have some scars and tingling in the nerve ends where it was located. So I want to be careful in posting this kind of thing unless we have concrete evidence that it is true. I really never did find out for sure about Felicia but she did leave TG after being questioned. Now, it has been some time since I checked on that so this is more in the line of - my opinion.

[klagoosh]

It really is time for RealScam member Dave Cottrell (RS member klagoosh) to decide where he stands with Scamlandpro. I quote his attempt to whitewash Adlandpro, which was pasted the in the Scam Hotline group in Facebook. (http://www.facebook.com/groups/shotline)

Quote Dave Cottrell RS member "klagoosh"

"Dave Cottrell BTW, I HAVE checked out ALP rather thoroughly lately, due to questions that have been put to me, and I have also investigated several of the 'scambusting' websites. ALP comes up far cleaner than I expected any social site to come up, whereas I found things out about many of the much touted antiscam sites that would make your drill sergeant blush. I am not interested in getting into a war with any of these sites, most of whose members, I am sure, are unaware of their naughty secrets, but if anyone wants to dig, the internet does not erase secrets. In fact, the number of people I know who could erase their tracks on the internet I can count on one hand with most of my fingers missing..."

It is my opinion that Dave Cotterell is trying to whitewash Adlandpro for no reason other than that he is maling money or trying to make money from Bogdan Fiedur's extremely questionable gold member program.

Classified Adland
(http://www.classifiedadland.com/advertising-resources/alpgold/#.ULNtOdlCCnA)
I have screenshots of this so there is no need to try and delete the evidence Dave.

Cottrell (http://path2prosperity.com/images/cottrell.GIF)
Cotrell2 (http://path2prosperity.com/images/cottrell2.GIF)
Cottrell3 (http://path2prosperity.com/images/cottrell3.GIF)

I ask RS menbers to think and post opinions, as to why somebody who promotes Adlandpro's Gold Member Program like Dave Cottrell "klagoosh", is so acvtively promoting the notion that it does no good to expose Adlandpro.

If Dave is earning from Adlandpro is he a scambuster or a "Scamlandpro Mole?"

Sigh... Judith Horton, you dragged me into this mess, remember? Yes, those are screen shots with my name on them. Would you like me to produce screen shots with you advertising Paid Autosurfs? What difference would it make if I did? Would that disqualify you from being a scambuster? Or would it be part of your experience portfolio?

I already told you I am not interested in being in a fight with you or anyone else. I have nothing to lose... I'm just too weary. Please don't push the issue. You have zip to gain by pushing me. I still think you are tilting windmills in going after ALP. You would better spend your time going after the scammers, themselves, those who produce the scams. If you want to kill a snake, you do not cut off its tail, you cut off its head.

Dave Cottrell (Klagoosh is my Tahltan name, for the record. It is not a secret and is easy to find on Google. I do not hide behind pseudonyms. )

[path2prosperity]

BoggyBoy Becomes More of a Joke by The Day.

Bogdan Fiedur has joined a Facebook Group called Scam Hotline (http://www.facebook.com/groups/shotline/?fref=ts) and Scott Reynolds whom I believe to be an administrator of the group, placed himself on BoggyBoy friends list on 26/11/2012. The group have deleted any posts where banned members from Scam Hotline claim that Adlandpro promotes scams, ponzis and porn. BoggyBoy is on hand to assist any member in his or her scam busting efforts.

If anybody wants Bogdan Fiedur and his cronies as scam advisors, he or she can join Scam Hotline in Facebook. I think that some RS members in the group may wish to leave. The chances of being banned from the group, if you talk about genuine scams appears to be very high over there with Boggy in the debencher shareholder's seats.

[path2prosperity]

I opened a new Group in Facebook on 26/11/2012 and I was delighted that SBM was the first to join. Other RS members are welcome to join

No Crap British Scammer Musings. (http://www.realscam.com/f9/scamlandpro-your-one-stop-site-all-scams-1276/index29.html)

[path2prosperity]

Kathy Hamilton is certainly making life easier for legal authorities, journalists, researchers and historians to monitor activities at Scamland. They have an alternative to "Music While You Work." You can tune into "Scamland BS While You Work" now.

To connect type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2395897/POTW-Feedback/99.aspx

[scratchycat]

Scam Hotline in Facebook as of a couple minutes ago:





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[path2prosperity]

Sigh... Judith Horton, you dragged me into this mess, remember? Yes, those are screen shots with my name on them. Would you like me to produce screen shots with you advertising Paid Autosurfs? What difference would it make if I did? Would that disqualify you from being a scambuster? Or would it be part of your experience portfolio?

I already told you I am not interested in being in a fight with you or anyone else. I have nothing to lose... I'm just too weary. Please don't push the issue. You have zip to gain by pushing me. I still think you are tilting windmills in going after ALP. You would better spend your time going after the scammers, themselves, those who produce the scams. If you want to kill a snake, you do not cut off its tail, you cut off its head.

Dave Cottrell (Klagoosh is my Tahltan name, for the record. It is not a secret and is easy to find on Google. I do not hide behind pseudonyms. )

You are advertising Bogdan Fiedur's affiliate program on your Adlandpro welcome page and his gold advertising program on your Classified Adland (http://www.classifiedadland.com/advertising-resources/alpgold/) web site. I used to play the paid autosurfs for A PUNT, several years ago. There is a big difference between then and now.

I am not pushing you, I am pointing out that it is unwise to become an affiliate for disreputable programs. Loyalty is a great thing Dave but there is such a thing as reversal behaviour, when under stress, a person's strengths become their weaknesseses. Psychometric tests pick this condition up very easily. Your loyalty to BoggyBoy does sound a bit OTT to me.

Look after yourself and don't worry about BoggyBoy. As "Scratchy" has said, the man has already cut his own throat.

[path2prosperity]

Perhaps a friend of Peggy Smith's could tell her that all is not lost. She can get a copy of all the posts, which she deleted from Facebook archives and rebuild her network for games and other fun activities without her having to invite the ponzi players, who ruined her Scam Hotline. The group started out very good intentions. Unfortunately we all learn, that there is alot of truth in the old adagge which states that, " The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

[scratchycat]

Okay, what has been said, is said. We need to pull this thing together and get back to the real issues here. Dave is now a member of RS if he chooses to straddle the fence that is his choice. Look how long it took me to break with Adland. I cannot hold something against a person that I am guilty of and that should hold true of anyone. We are not here to attack members but to fight cyber crime (at least that is my understanding). Admin correct me if I am wrong.

It is true that being a member of Adlandpro tells the world that you promote them. When you join either as a free account or paid account your username gets a Welcome page that uses your name to advertise the site. It took me a long time to realize this. Even after I was terminated the page stayed there and I was still promoting a site that I was fighting against!!! How ironic is that!!?? Just recently have I been able to have that page removed and I did so by reporting it through their new "Privacy" deal at the bottom of pages. So it was a big help to me that they added that little icon. :RpS_smile:

Time will tell what happens and people will make their own decisions. I don't want to be a part of singling out one possibly good member of RS by making threats about Adland. Several of us were members there and many still are so please let's give them a chance as many of you stood with me when I was still hanging on to the "happy" place. If you had chosen to attack me (more than what did happen), I would not be here now, so I say "Thank you" for bearing with me as I worked my way through it.

[scratchycat]

I opened a new Group in Facebook on 26/11/2012 and I was delighted that SBM was the first to join. Other RS members are welcome to join

No Crap British Scammer Musings. (http://www.realscam.com/f9/scamlandpro-your-one-stop-site-all-scams-1276/index29.html)

P2P that link just takes me back to this forum.

[path2prosperity]

P2P that link just takes me back to this forum.

That is odd. I will have to take a look. Eight others joined in less than twelve hous so something must be working. Try searchung for No Crap British Scammer Musings in FaceBook and I will see how to alter it on Facebook. I must have a break now but I will be back later.

[path2prosperity]

That is odd. I will have to take a look. Eight others joined in less than twelve hours so something must be working. Try searchung for No Crap British Scammer Musings in FaceBook and I will see how to alter it on Facebook. I must have a break now but I will be back later.

I have no idea why the link was defaulting to the RS page but this is the right link for

No Crap British Scammer Musings (http://www.facebook.com/groups/181019338702669/).

Entrepreneurs are very welcome but MLMers and crap merchants will get a flea in the ear.

[klagoosh]

You are advertising Bogdan Fiedur's affiliate program on your Adlandpro welcome page and his gold advertising program on your Classified Adland (http://www.classifiedadland.com/advertising-resources/alpgold/) web site. I used to play the paid autosurfs for A PUNT, several years ago. There is a big difference between then and now.

I am not pushing you, I am pointing out that it is unwise to become an affiliate for disreputable programs. Loyalty is a great thing Dave but there is such a thing as reversal behaviour, when under stress, a person's strengths become their weaknesseses. Psychometric tests pick this condition up very easily. Your loyalty to BoggyBoy does sound a bit OTT to me.

Look after yourself and don't worry about BoggyBoy. As "Scratchy" has said, the man has already cut his own throat.

Take care, Judy. I am saddened by this, but I guess you are going to do what you want. That's your choice. I am not interested in a fight.
Dave Cottrell - aka - Klagoosh, owner of ClassifiedAdLand.com , among many others.

[Lil Ol' Radical Me]

Some thoughts on Adland Pro

It remains a sad fact is that Adland is still being used by people to promote supposed ways to make money from home which are in many cases little more than fraud.

What is even sadder is that no one there is doing much to stop it.

Members who join these schemes invariably lose their money, or never make any in exchange for a tremendous amount of time and energy. Those at the top (in and outside Adland) make money at their expense. (Think Zeek, ASD JustBeenPaid, NarcThatCar, food "programs" and others run by long established scammers.)

If any one tries to protest and provide facts which demonstrate that a particular scheme is not what it claims to be, their comments are invariably deleted by the "forum owners" as every thread is moderated by its owner.

Adland, over the years has acquired a very bad reputation online as a place where newbies get scammed. The policy of allowing people to promote and advertise whatever they like without challenge is largely responsible. It is within the owners remit and covered by the ToS if he wishes to change it. He's an internet savvy chap who has been around the web for many years.

I personally left in all but name many years ago, but what I see and hear leads me to believe that nothing has changed.

The advertising revenue which pays for the site encompasses many things that are not acceptable to most people, including porn and scams. However much any one enjoys "the social side of Adland", these are the things that make them possible. I am not naming any names or getting into a slanging match with anyone. It is the schemes themselves that are noxious and, as long as their adverts and promotion forums are permitted, they will be promoted by someone. If one member who promotes scams goes, another will fill their place and suck another bunch of newbies in.

Naming names is not my way of operating - my interest is in establishing whether schemes and programs are or are not legitimate business and to pass that information on. However, when there is documented evidence all over the internet that something promoted on Adland is not going to be a business that it is good to promote to the members of Adland, it would appear that no criticism of that program is possible on the site and it is called "hating" and negativity. It is irrelevant to me who promotes it. If someone is seen repeatedly as a leading promoter of one scam after another, that says enough about them for me. If however, the owner of the site has no wish to change the direction of Adland, then it will continue to be what it has become over the years - a safe haven for scammers to promote their rubbish to newbies.

[path2prosperity]

Take care, Judy. I am saddened by this, but I guess you are going to do what you want. That's your choice. I am not interested in a fight.
Dave Cottrell - aka - Klagoosh, owner of ClassifiedAdLand.com , among many others.

This is a forum for people who want to fight scammer's Dave. Your decision to remain no part of the fight and remain as a loyal friend to BoggyBoy is your decision.

My mesage to Bogdan is that next time he wants to send a warrior into an antiscam forum, he had better not choose somebody who has just returned from a long sick leave. SBM and Peggy Smith from the Scam Hotline in Facebook have had the courage to show Internet users that neither of them will tolerate Bogdan Fiedur in anti scam forums or groups where they are in control.

I take my hat off to two courageous women and I wish you well in your recovery.

[Lil Ol' Radical Me]

Duh?

REAL SCAM - Is it or isn't it? You decide.

Thought that is what we were here for - to sort out whether or not the stuff that people are invited to join is a real business or not. The motives of people who promote scams are more difficult to prove and depend on their knowledge of what they promote and their own track records. Judging that one is a difficult call and requires a lot of research and evidence if it is to be anything other than a subjective opinion

On the other hand, a forum/site which provides a home for scam and unsustainable programs will inevitably be judged by its content and the way in which it deals with it. In that situation, they have two choices - or demonstrate the legality and sustainability of the programs promoted and advertised on their sites, or, shut the heck up. Threats dont work. TG and MMG seem to have taken the latter path, scam dot com... we won't even go there. lol.... and Adland tried the threats but the only way they can achieve credibility is the former - to demonstrate the legality and sustainability of the programs promoted and advertised on their sites The rest is just smoke and mirrors

[klagoosh]

This is a forum for people who want to fight scammer's Dave. Your decision to remain no part of the fight and remain as a loyal friend to BoggyBoy is your decision.

My mesage to Bogdan is that next time he wants to send a warrior into an antiscam forum, he had better not choose somebody who has just returned from a long sick leave. SBM and Peggy Smith from the Scam Hotline in Facebook have had the courage to show Internet users that neither of them will tolerate Bogdan Fiedur in anti scam forums or groups where they are in control.

I take my hat off to two courageous women and I wish you well in your recovery.

OK, Judy Horton, since you are spoiling for a fight and refuse to drop it, go ahead and make my day. I am horribly sick, but have NEVER, EVER used that as an excuse for anything, other than being much less active than I used to be. Not my choice.

But you, dear lady, are WAY off base coming after me like this. FOR THE RECORD, and I hope everybody reads this, YOU invited me to this site, YOU told me who was here, and YOU then proceeded to warn me that if I didn't simply leave Adlandpro and dump friends I have been pretty much out of contact with for years YOU would not be able to stop people from suggesting that my sickness is all a scam and in fact, I am a scammer, myself.

DO YOU WANT ME TO POST A CUT AND PASTE COPY OF YOUR EMAIL TO ME? The totally ridiculous thing about this, is that NOBODY else here has accused me of anything. YOU are the one making the very accusations you warned me the other folks here would.

There is NOTHING I can do to prevent you from your raving diatribes, but I am beginning to wonder why anyone takes you seriously, any more. It seems to me now that you only invited me here so that you can enjoy the glory of "exposing" a so-called scammer.

ONCE AGAIN, NO ONE FROM ADLANDPRO SENT ME HERE! YOU, JUDITH HORTON, INVITED ME HERE AS MY FRIEND, THEN TURNED FROM JUDITH TO JUDAS ON ME. Thank you. I appreciate the kindness...

[path2prosperity]

Duh?

REAL SCAM - Is it or isn't it? You decide.

The motives of people who promote scams are more difficult to prove and requires a lot of research and evidence if it is to be anything other than a subjective opinion [/B]


EXcellent point LORM. That point was drummed into psychometric testing students when I did my training. The tests reveal the MOST PROBABLE motivation and nothing else. If the person who is being tested agrees that one of the most probable explanations revealed by the test, is abolutely right, then you are on safe ground assumiing that it is true.

PS I really do admire your writing style. You get better every day. We have fought like a couple of fish wives over who is who in Scamland but here we seem to be winning the peace.

[path2prosperity]

OK, Judy Horton, since you are spoiling for a fight and refuse to drop it, go ahead and make my day.

My fight is with Scamlandpro Dave not with you. Have a good night's sleep and come back when you have got more things into pespective.

[scratchycat]

Adland, over the years has acquired a very bad reputation online as a place where newbies get scammed. The policy of allowing people to promote and advertise whatever they like without challenge is largely responsible. It is within the owners remit and covered by the ToS if he wishes to change it. He's an internet savvy chap who has been around the web for many years.

I personally left in all but name many years ago, but what I see and hear leads me to believe that nothing has changed.

The advertising revenue which pays for the site encompasses many things that are not acceptable to most people, including porn and scams. However much any one enjoys "the social side of Adland", these are the things that make them possible. I am not naming any names or getting into a slanging match with anyone. It is the schemes themselves that are noxious and, as long as their adverts and promotion forums are permitted, they will be promoted by someone. If one member who promotes scams goes, another will fill their place and suck another bunch of newbies in.

Naming names is not my way of operating - my interest is in establishing whether schemes and programs are or are not legitimate business and to pass that information on. However, when there is documented evidence all over the internet that something promoted on Adland is not going to be a business that it is good to promote to the members of Adland, it would appear that no criticism of that program is possible on the site and it is called "hating" and negativity. It is irrelevant to me who promotes it. If someone is seen repeatedly as a leading promoter of one scam after another, that says enough about them for me. If however, the owner of the site has no wish to change the direction of Adland, then it will continue to be what it has become over the years - a safe haven for scammers to promote their rubbish to newbies.

I agree.

Jimbo is in charge and things are under his control and if you want to win the scammer of the week it will take a little :butt_kisser:

Hey Miguel,

Thanks very much and I see your nomination has been entered as well. You may be next. Have you let your friends know you are okay with being nominated? Visit the POTW Nominations Thread and let us know that you or a friend should be considered.

Thanks again, Miguel (ProfitClicking promoter)

Jim (promoter of The Simple Math (http://webdocsnation.com/)

very cool and I second the sentiment Mark (^-^) - Dennis and Jim truly are people who have been working so hard and doing so much, they need to take a bow!

P.S you have too by the way... I should have said that earlier

Diane (promoter of Adlandpro and possibly next scammer of the week).

You don't have to look far to find a world of scam promoters in Scamland.

[scratchycat]

OK, Judy Horton, since you are spoiling for a fight and refuse to drop it, go ahead and make my day. I am horribly sick, but have NEVER, EVER used that as an excuse for anything, other than being much less active than I used to be. Not my choice.

But you, dear lady, are WAY off base coming after me like this. FOR THE RECORD, and I hope everybody reads this, YOU invited me to this site, YOU told me who was here, and YOU then proceeded to warn me that if I didn't simply leave Adlandpro and dump friends I have been pretty much out of contact with for years YOU would not be able to stop people from suggesting that my sickness is all a scam and in fact, I am a scammer, myself.

DO YOU WANT ME TO POST A CUT AND PASTE COPY OF YOUR EMAIL TO ME? The totally ridiculous thing about this, is that NOBODY else here has accused me of anything. YOU are the one making the very accusations you warned me the other folks here would.

There is NOTHING I can do to prevent you from your raving diatribes, but I am beginning to wonder why anyone takes you seriously, any more. It seems to me now that you only invited me here so that you can enjoy the glory of "exposing" a so-called scammer.

ONCE AGAIN, NO ONE FROM ADLANDPRO SENT ME HERE! YOU, JUDITH HORTON, INVITED ME HERE AS MY FRIEND, THEN TURNED FROM JUDITH TO JUDAS ON ME. Thank you. I appreciate the kindness...

When all is said and done, bottom line - promoters of Adlandpro and their 'programs' are aiding and abetting cyber crime. I am ashamed of how long I did it - about 4 years I think and without realizing just what I was doing even though it was all in front of me. We all make mistakes but we can try to set things straight.

[scratchycat]

How to get an A+ rating from BBB -

BBB Accreditation

A BBB Accredited Business since 11/21/2012

BBB has determined that AdlandPro meets BBB accreditation standards, which include a commitment to make a good faith effort to resolve any consumer complaints. BBB Accredited Businesses pay a fee for accreditation review/monitoring and for support of BBB services to the public.

BBB accreditation does not mean that the business' products or services have been evaluated or endorsed by BBB, or that BBB has made a determination as to the business' product quality or competency in performing services.

Complaints on the way??

[Lil Ol' Radical Me]

EXcellent point LORM. That point was drummed into psychometric testing students when I did my training. The tests reveal the MOST PROBABLE motivation and nothing else. If the person who is being tested agrees that one of the most probable explanations revealed by the test, is abolutely right, then you are on safe ground assumiing that it is true.

PS I really do admire your writing style. You get better every day. We have fought like a couple of fish wives over who is who in Scamland but here we seem to be winning the peace.

We are not conducting psychometric testing on this forum as far as I am aware. As commented above, Real
Scam was set up to discuss whether programs are scams or not and, by implication, IF their members are knowingly, negligently or innocently involved in scams.

HOWEVER making suppositions about motivation is a highly subjective judgement, and even more so when we are dealing with "virtual relationships". In the world of HYIPs and scams it is generally more prudent to go on the math and FACTS and not what we THINK someone might have done or thought. That way it is easier to avoid wrongly accusing an innocent victim or even dragging their name into the public internet on a forum that deals with the shady side of business on the internet. For most people, it is enough to have been burnt once and it is sufficient that they read the material available and tell their friends without making a public spectacle of themselves. Equally it avoids defending "the guilty" because of misplaced loyalties or "virtual" friendships

For those who do repeatedly promote dubious schemes, then information and the empirical evidence will stack the cards against them and people can make up their own minds from the evidence, not because anyone tells them to.

As far as AdlandPro is concerned, I have made very clear what I think of the place and WHY it is full of scammy schemes already and that has never changed. Apart from law enforcement if there is a case for its intervention, the owner is the only person with the legal and practical ability to control what appears there and it's owner remains the same person who founded AdlandPro- end of story. It's members, ex-members and owner may think it is important, but remember Fiedur started it long before Mark Zuckerberg started FB and Zuckerberg has become a multi millionaire of the largest social network in the world. Enough said.

People join Adland for one reason and stay for others, including for a group of "virtual friends". Most people there have joined some program or other at one stage or another because of these supposed "friendships". It's owner has permitted the membership of known major serial scammers who disseminate their toxic programs to their major promoters through that and other forums where they are tolerated. (The owner of P2P and many other have all been members in their time). These members simply leave the public promotion and socializing to their selected promoters and big kool aid drinkers. The existing structure of "promoter owned" threads at Adland effectively stops all criticism of the programs promoted there. The apparent complicity of the owner has the effect of putting a halt to threads by others critical of those programs. On rare occasion a critical forum has taken precedence and the promoter forced to back down (a debate on fuel pills comes to mind), but on that occasion (equally rare) the whole debate was focused on concrete and factual evidence on scientific performance and product instead of on the personalities involved.

It is my firm belief that any member of Adland Pro or any other forum who has doubts about what they are involved in will learn more from a careful diagnosis available here of the programs themselves, here and on other sites, than from anyone yelling "SCAMMER" about their "best virtual friend" , and even more so if it turns out that the wrong person gets picked out for attention!. When that happens, it has the serious downside of robbing the accuser's credibility for all the correct statements that they made before. But as always, what makes the scammer is the fact they knowingly or recklessly promote the scams. It is essential to give that evidence of the scam first. Name calling is contra productive without hard data, if one wishes to convince anyone of anything and even then their motive is unknown.

If you choose to debate with individuals on a personal level, that is your choice, but for my part I shall continue with the view that it is more important to establish what is or isn't a scam (including who has founded it,as they are highly unlikely to be innocents by any stretch of the imagination) and then let the cards fall where they fall and let people make up their own minds.

I will not debate individual personalities from Adland Pro here- but will willingly discuss the programs and if anything contributed will help someone understand what they have gotten themselves into, then that's even better.

[path2prosperity]

We are not conducting psychometric testing on this forum as far as I am aware. .

Why would you object to my saying that science supports your subjective opinion on the subject of a person's motivation? Nobody can do anything other than state probabilities on the matter of a person's motivation That fact is backed up by science. I consider this very relevent to the issue of RealScam.

[path2prosperity]

Some thoughts on Adland Pro

It remains a sad fact is that Adland is still being used by people to promote supposed ways to make money from home which are in many cases little more than fraud.

What is even sadder is that no one there is doing much to stop it.

Members who join these schemes invariably lose their money, or never make any in exchange for a tremendous amount of time and energy. Those at the top (in and outside Adland) make money at their expense. (Think Zeek, ASD JustBeenPaid, NarcThatCar, food "programs" and others run by long established scammers.)

If any one tries to protest and provide facts which demonstrate that a particular scheme is not what it claims to be, their comments are invariably deleted by the "forum owners" as every thread is moderated by its owner.

Adland, over the years has acquired a very bad reputation online as a place where newbies get scammed. The policy of allowing people to promote and advertise whatever they like without challenge is largely responsible. It is within the owners remit and covered by the ToS if he wishes to change it. He's an internet savvy chap who has been around the web for many years.

I personally left in all but name many years ago, but what I see and hear leads me to believe that nothing has changed.

The advertising revenue which pays for the site encompasses many things that are not acceptable to most people, including porn and scams. However much any one enjoys "the social side of Adland", these are the things that make them possible. I am not naming any names or getting into a slanging match with anyone. It is the schemes themselves that are noxious and, as long as their adverts and promotion forums are permitted, they will be promoted by someone. If one member who promotes scams goes, another will fill their place and suck another bunch of newbies in.

Naming names is not my way of operating - my interest is in establishing whether schemes and programs are or are not legitimate business and to pass that information on. However, when there is documented evidence all over the internet that something promoted on Adland is not going to be a business that it is good to promote to the members of Adland, it would appear that no criticism of that program is possible on the site and it is called "hating" and negativity. It is irrelevant to me who promotes it. If someone is seen repeatedly as a leading promoter of one scam after another, that says enough about them for me. If however, the owner of the site has no wish to change the direction of Adland, then it will continue to be what it has become over the years - a safe haven for scammers to promote their rubbish to newbies.

This post which was made by LORM was pasted on the Scam Hotline Group in Facebook. "Scratcy" and I endorsed it with a like as we have done here. It was deleted from Scam Hotline. Bogdan Fiedur had control of that group for less than a day thanks to the swift action of Peggy Smith, the owner. Jason (Poyol) can confirm the fact that he saw the pictures of some of the Scam Hotline group's members, in that brief space of time. They were according to Jason and me, Bogdan Fiedur, Dave Cottrell and Stephen Hall.

We do not know who deleted this evidence from Scam Hotline but Bogdan tried to take over an anti scam group and his efforts were foiled. This evidence can not be deleted from The Interenet or people's memories.

[Lil Ol' Radical Me]

Why would you object to my saying that science supports your subjective opinion on the subject of a person's motivation? Nobody can do anything other than state probabilities on the matter of a person's motivation That fact is backed up by science. I consider this very relevent to the issue of RealScam.

I guess we simply have different priorities and we are both entitled to our opinions.

However to stay on topic - AdlandPro (it googles better than Scamlandpro lol) Your One Stop Site for all Scams:-

I believe that the principal ingredient of stopping a fraudulent scheme (scam) from flourishing is to give evidence that it is a scam. Whether that evidence is offered on an internet forum where participants or potential participants have a chance to find out the truth about the scheme they have joined or are being invited to join, or whether it is offered to law enforcement to enable them to take appropriate measures, the fundamental issue is to establish the truth about a scheme.

The forums where frauds are promoted them are not generally, at this point in time, legally responsible for the content, although they certainly have the moral responsibility for what they permit on their sites. Law enforcement is now aware where online frauds are propagated but as yet have not brought a prosecution against any forum. That may change in the future, but is the case at present.

However, those same forums only last as long as they have credibility. ASA Monitor has already closed to the public. Why? After the AdSurfDaily prosecution by the Secret Service, following hard on the heels of 12 Daily Pro, the failure of VLane and others , it may be that they decided that "flying above the radar" was not in their best interests. Just MHO

The imprisonment of Bernard Maddoff has also brought into the public domain an awareness of the existence of ponzis that they did not have before. But they do now and it certainly makes explanations of HYIPs and autosurfs easier to understand. This awareness and any other education on how fraudulent schemes flourish brings about a loss of credibility for those that remain - the TGs, the MMGs and the Adlands etc etc of this world. They will not, under present law, be closed down, but increased public awareness of what is there does cause a loss of credibility and, as a result of this, they may and probably will fail in time.

Those who start fraudulent schemes are criminals and deserve to be sent to jail for defrauding others out of their money. Those that promote them will only lose credibility if it is demonstrated that the schemes they offer others are fraudulent. To me, the names are almost irrelevant. When one goes another will take their place, but that will never make a fraudulent scheme legal.

So in summary, IMHO, it is the awareness of the members of forums as to WHAT is promoted there that will cause their demise and not the names of those who promote. IMHO The WHO is probably of far more use and interest to law enforcement than it is to members of a public forum

AdlandPro will not come to an end because Mary Flo or Johnny Bean promote schemes there, but it may well fizzle away when its members become aware that the schemes that they are constantly being invited to join are mainly illegal or unsustainable and that the presence of these schemes is the motor of the forum and the "social side" is simply added froth and bubbles to keep the place moving.

[klagoosh]

For the record, Judy, I thought it was you who put me in that group. If you are as good as you are suggesting you are, you will be able to prove rather quickly just how short at time I was in that group before it was taken down by either Peggy or Scott. (a couple of days, at the most).

[klagoosh]

I guess we simply have different priorities and we are both entitled to our opinions.

However to stay on topic - AdlandPro (it googles better than Scamlandpro lol) Your One Stop Site for all Scams:-

I believe that the principal ingredient of stopping a fraudulent scheme (scam) from flourishing is to give evidence that it is a scam. Whether that evidence is offered on an internet forum where participants or potential participants have a chance to find out the truth about the scheme they have joined or are being invited to join, or whether it is offered to law enforcement to enable them to take appropriate measures, the fundamental issue is to establish the truth about a scheme.

The forums where frauds are promoted them are not generally, at this point in time, legally responsible for the content, although they certainly have the moral responsibility for what they permit on their sites. Law enforcement is now aware where online frauds are propagated but as yet have not brought a prosecution against any forum. That may change in the future, but is the case at present.

However, those same forums only last as long as they have credibility. ASA Monitor has already closed to the public. Why? After the AdSurfDaily prosecution by the Secret Service, following hard on the heels of 12 Daily Pro, the failure of VLane and others , it may be that they decided that "flying above the radar" was not in their best interests. Just MHO

The imprisonment of Bernard Maddoff has also brought into the public domain an awareness of the existence of ponzis that they did not have before. But they do now and it certainly makes explanations of HYIPs and autosurfs easier to understand. This awareness and any other education on how fraudulent schemes flourish brings about a loss of credibility for those that remain - the TGs, the MMGs and the Adlands etc etc of this world. They will not, under present law, be closed down, but increased public awareness of what is there does cause a loss of credibility and, as a result of this, they may and probably will fail in time.

Those who start fraudulent schemes are criminals and deserve to be sent to jail for defrauding others out of their money. Those that promote them will only lose credibility if it is demonstrated that the schemes they offer others are fraudulent. To me, the names are almost irrelevant. When one goes another will take their place, but that will never make a fraudulent scheme legal.

So in summary, IMHO, it is the awareness of the members of forums as to WHAT is promoted there that will cause their demise and not the names of those who promote. IMHO The WHO is probably of far more use and interest to law enforcement than it is to members of a public forum

AdlandPro will not come to an end because Mary Flo or Johnny Bean promote schemes there, but it may well fizzle away when its members become aware that the schemes that they are constantly being invited to join are mainly illegal or unsustainable and that the presence of these schemes is the motor of the forum and the "social side" is simply added froth and bubbles to keep the place moving.

I could not agree more. Cut off the HEAD of the snake,not the tail...

[path2prosperity]

For the record, Judy, I thought it was you who put me in that group. If you are as good as you are suggesting you are, you will be able to prove rather quickly just how short at time I was in that group before it was taken down by either Peggy or Scott. (a couple of days, at the most).

What on earth are you talking about? How could I put you in the Scam Hotline Group?

For your information it was Peggy who closed the group. Thank goodness she had the "balls" to close it down when Bogdan Fiedur and his henchmen had taken control. Bogdan has been silenced once again.

[path2prosperity]

I could not agree more. Cut off the HEAD of the snake,not the tail...

Adlandpro promotes virtually nothing but porn and scams. A small scam busting web site like this could not possibly close them all down. We can however make it clear that Bogdan Fiedur makes money from the promotion of these activities and that it is very unwise to join forces with him in any of his online ventures.

[klagoosh]

What on earth are you talking about? How could I put you in the Scam Hotline Group?

For your information it was Peggy who closed the group. Thank goodness she had the "balls" to close it down when Bogdan Fiedur and his henchmen had taken control. Bogdan has been silenced once again.

Ok... then who put me in the group, right before it fell apart? Someone had the means to do that. Who all had admin for that group? I did not ask to get put in there, but somebody put me in. I am hearing about this happening a lot, lately. Mattias had 269 people suddenly show up in his blog group on FB overnight.

[klagoosh]

Adlandpro promotes virtually nothing but porn and scams. A small scam busting web site like this could not possibly close them all down. We can however make it clear that Bogdan Fiedur makes money from the promotion of these activities and that it is very unwise to join forces with him in any of his online ventures.

Judy, this is quite wearying. Perhaps you have already done it, but I have not seen it. Where is the evidence to support what you are saying about ALP? I know there's a lot of junk on there - there has been for years. But almost all of that makes no money for the owner, because the people who get into that stuff are mainly freeloaders who will complain bitterly when the free things provided for them don't work. Trust me; I had several community sites before I got sick. Free members are a horrible pain in the posterior, and THEY are the ones whose junk you could spend 24/7 deleting.

But you continue to make the erroneous claim that Adlandpro promotes these things. Adlandpro is a classified ad/social media/advertising platform. People promote their stuff there. Adlandpro is simply the platform.

Regarding the porn; where is the evidence? You repeatedly make this claim, yet you provide no evidence. A couple of screen shots of questionable ads is not proof that porn is endorsed or even allowed on Adlandpro. Someone advertising adult toys, while not someone I would want advertising on my website, is not a porn merchant. Some of the screen shots you have provided are not even on ALP. Take another look at the address bar in your own screen shots. The links may have been advertised on ALP, but the site you show in your screen shot is an entirely different site. That is not proof. If you are going to bust someone, you need to produce evidence that is directly showing their involvement.

The shot you showed from a Polish ALP site, I checked out. It is a racy, but not pornographic photo, with no nudity, that is advertising a Polish personals site.

I agree that scams, scammers and illegal porn merchants need to be brought down. I would personally like to see all porn and gambling sites permanently removed from the internet, but unfortunately, they are legal in many jurisdictions.

But if you are going to bring down illegal activity, simply posting accusations on forums is not how it's done. I have gone through forum after forum over the years checking out a company's record, only to discover that I have been wasting my time. Forums are open to every wild accusation that you can imagine for people with an axe to grind. But when the accusations begin to be checked, there is no evidence to support them.

Find REAL evidence. Then give it to the appropriate authorities. Contrary to a certain infamous Canadian wannabe scambuster/extortioner's claim, the Canadian authorities would be VERY happy to shut down a Canadian company that is operating illegally. Our authorities and the BBB are NOT a bunch of scammers.

[path2prosperity]

g.

But you continue to make the erroneous claim that Adlandpro promotes these things. Adlandpro is a classified ad/social media/advertising platform. People promote their stuff there. Adlandpro is simply the platform.

I invited you into this forum because I thought that you were interested in helping us bust scams. It looks as if your main interest is not in scam busting but a desire to act as Devil's Advocate for Adlandpro.

I do not need to show you the evidence as SMM has already posted pages and pages of porn from Scamland in RS threads and I found a more recent one to show your friend Dianne to show you that it is ever present.

Adlandpro Porn Example (http://www.path2prosperity.com/images/akihow.GIF).

[path2prosperity]

Ok... then who put me in the group, right before it fell apart?

How could I know that? The only way that you can find out is to ask the person who owned the Scam Hotline group in Facebook.