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surfer
03-29-2012, 01:44 AM
This is one apparently run by Dave Wood and Dave Sharpe. I've never heard of them before.

The site just launched in Oct/Nov and appears to be growing rapidly.

They use an unusual comp plan that's a spin off of one-ups, two-ups that they refer to as a pass-up powerline where every other sale rolls up for the first several and then every 5th sale rolls up after that. Commissions are 100% - processing fees if they process the sales for you.

I tuned in to a live Ustream seminar earlier and they had between 600-800 viewers for the majority of the 2+ hour show. Although I didn't exactly feel that they come off as trustworthy, they had fun, were quite charismatic, and are pretty convincing.

Their entry level is $25 to use their blogging platform on their high traffic site and then you are upsold another $100 for the The Inner Circle Mastermind Membership and then The Costa Rica Mastermind Intensive for $250 until it goes up to $1000 on April 1.

The first 2 are monthly billing and the other is a one time purchase.

58 Minute Video detailing products/comp plan, etc. (http://www.empowernetwork.com/blog/the-empower-network-affiliate-compensation-plan/)

Income Disclosure which is updated daily. (http://www.empowernetwork.com/income.php)

I know quite a few past informational product programs ran into issues with the FTC and have to wonder if Empower Network could be headed the same direction.

Thoughts?

fromthehood
04-03-2012, 10:40 PM
Commissions are 100% - processing fees if they process the sales for you.



Quite simple. What do you call product when commissions on sale is 100%? It is called air. Value of the product outside of this scheme is Zero, zilch, nata. By definition selling product with no value is a scam punishable by law.

ProfHenryHiggins
04-03-2012, 11:13 PM
I would say that Empower Network hits the same securities issue that Prosperity Automated Solutions did. Look them up on sec.gov and see why they were ruled a pyramid scheme by the authorities. Does Empower look the same to your eyes as PAS was?

littleroundman
04-03-2012, 11:28 PM
If you ignore all the hoopla, and go back to basics, what are you "buying" or "selling" ???

What's the product ???

A blogging platform ???

Memberships ??

Is it possible to make money WITHOUT selling "product" and just by recruiting ??

IM(very)HO, FTC or the SEC involvement are the least of Empower Networks' problems.

It's more likely the Empower Network will collapse under the weight of its' endless chain recruiting emphasis long before officialdom gets involved.

Nancetta
04-04-2012, 07:18 PM
Although I didn't exactly feel that they come off as trustworthy, they had fun, were quite charismatic, and are pretty convincing.

I have no idea who these people are, however, what you said re you didn't exactly feel as though they were trustworthy, BUT they HAD FUN, were QUITE CHARISMATIC and are PRETTY CONVINCING...It boils down to the psychology of messing with people's minds...IMHO...

From my experience in this online world of scammers, having fun, being charismatic and pretty convincing (confident) is what keeps people 'sucked' in...it keeps them coming back...it keeps them throwing their hard-earned money to the wolves...unfortunate as though that may be...

Nancetta
04-04-2012, 07:26 PM
If you ignore all the hoopla, and go back to basics, what are you "buying" or "selling" ???

When the scammers are this: Untrustworthy, although fun, quite charismatic and pretty convincing...people will ignore the 'hoopla' and there is no 'back to basics' and the 'investors' don't care what you are 'buying or selling'...This is just my experience in this arena...it is an ugly truth to face, but there it is...this is how this 'online world' operates...IMHO and experience...

kschang
05-30-2012, 11:21 PM
Their bloggers post bull****. I caught several of them promoting TVI Express in 2012, when that scam was already outlawed in the US in 2010 and abandoned by almost all US members.

littleroundman
01-23-2013, 07:18 AM
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/scams%202/empower.jpg

Empower Network thread, Talkgold HYIP ponzi forum (http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5058055&postcount=6)

1267 posts, so he's no newbie.

The writing really IS on the wall.

Theseus
01-23-2013, 09:33 AM
Take a look at the people promoting it, the whole thing is like a who's who of the online scamming world.

littleroundman
01-29-2013, 12:18 AM
Better still,

do a quick Google on free online blog

Why would anyone pay for Empower Network ???

Optimized SEO ????

C'mon, only an absolute 'net newbie would fall for that.

Without the ability to make money from "recruiting" as in: an endless chain recruitment scheme what else is there ??

scratchycat
01-29-2013, 09:13 AM
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01-29-2013, 09:20 AM
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2933


That's me ruled out then....

scratchycat
01-29-2013, 10:56 AM
2933


That's me ruled out then....

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PJSeg53
01-29-2013, 11:32 AM
EN is the best company in the world. It has changed my life financially and also psychologically. I am more educated and i am a better and more positive person because of empower. David Wood got rich w/ MLSP way before he started empower so this is for the people. He does not make money off of us in any other way than everyone else does by getting sales. The products are amazing as well. You get your bachelors degree in internet marketing w/out having to spend nearly the cost of going to college.

Anyone who says anything negative about EN is an idiot and a skeptic. Go back to your miserable little lives and stop complaining.

ProfHenryHiggins
01-29-2013, 12:00 PM
EN is the best company in the world. It has changed my life financially and also psychologically. I am more educated and i am a better and more positive person because of empower. David Wood got rich w/ MLSP way before he started empower so this is for the people. He does not make money off of us in any other way than everyone else does by getting sales. The products are amazing as well. You get your bachelors degree in internet marketing w/out having to spend nearly the cost of going to college.

Anyone who says anything negative about EN is an idiot and a skeptic. Go back to your miserable little lives and stop complaining.

Joe,
Take a step back and re-read that last line you wrote, substituting the name of any other company for EN. Think about what it sounds like.
A cult. Is that what you intended to come across as?

littleroundman
01-29-2013, 12:09 PM
Go back to your miserable little lives and stop complaining.

I can never quite work out how get-rich-quickers all come to the conclusion our lives are "miserable" and "little"

Are thy all psychic or something ??

ProfHenryHiggins
01-29-2013, 12:25 PM
I can never quite work out how get-rich-quickers all come to the conclusion our lives are "miserable" and "little"

Are thy all psychic or something ??

Considering that he's a contractor who makes roughly 32K a year by his own statement, and that he's a cash gifter in a state that banhammers cash gifting, I think that he's going to be a lot more miserable himself in the future if he doesn't learn to get along with other people.

Finix
01-29-2013, 01:03 PM
From the EN website:


"Some people can trip in **** and turn it into gold"?

It's true, you can make a lot of money pimping just about anything. Unfortunately, the governments have regulations about what is and isn't pimpable, so the gold has a potential of turning back into ****.

Soapboxmom
01-29-2013, 01:40 PM
EN is the best company in the world. It has changed my life financially and also psychologically. I am more educated and i am a better and more positive person because of empower. David Wood got rich w/ MLSP way before he started empower so this is for the people. He does not make money off of us in any other way than everyone else does by getting sales. The products are amazing as well. You get your bachelors degree in internet marketing w/out having to spend nearly the cost of going to college.

Anyone who says anything negative about EN is an idiot and a skeptic. Go back to your miserable little lives and stop complaining.
Why would I need a pyramid scheme to get a Bachelor's degree? What a dolt!

Poyol
01-29-2013, 02:42 PM
EN is the best company in the world. It has changed my life financially and also psychologically. I am more educated and i am a better and more positive person because of empower. David Wood got rich w/ MLSP way before he started empower so this is for the people. He does not make money off of us in any other way than everyone else does by getting sales. The products are amazing as well. You get your bachelors degree in internet marketing w/out having to spend nearly the cost of going to college.

Anyone who says anything negative about EN is an idiot and a skeptic. Go back to your miserable little lives and stop complaining.

Sounds like - probably is - COPYPASTA.

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littleroundman
01-29-2013, 09:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=B_aREzBe5-U

JustTooMuchTime
01-31-2013, 12:11 AM
Funny conversation about that video at the SaltyDroid:
» Death of The Tax Club (http://saltydroid.info/death-of-a-tax-club/#comment-100822)

The Verge ScamWorld article has a big video of his right in the middle of their article:
Scamworld: 'Get rich quick' schemes mutate into an online monster | The Verge (http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/10/2984893/scamworld-get-rich-quick-schemes-mutate-into-an-online-monster)

scratchycat
02-11-2013, 05:18 PM
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Anymore talk in TG and MMG about this one?

path2prosperity
02-11-2013, 06:53 PM
Learn the secret to 100% commissions Paid Instantly to your Bank Account

Anymore talk in TG and MMG about this one?

Just look at the title of this thread. Empower Network a brilliant idea if its intention is to get people's bank account details. Run for your life as signing up will increase the chances of your becoming a victim of identity theft. Who with any sense gives complete strangers their bank details?