Scam.com is Threatening Realscam.com / George Dranichak / Vladimir Sviatoslavich

[scamdotcom]

You guys are fuicking with the wrong bull now. New owner and you dragging me into this old **** you have no idea the can of **** you opened you weak ass excuse of a cloned website.
**** you

[scamdotcom]

They are an advertiser trying to do business. We have spoken with them on the phone and they are reasonable guys. Let me screen every single advertisier you have on your site.
Give me a BREAK! George was a consultant on the board til January, he is no longer with scam.com, this domain has been sold over 6 times so get over the past and let me try to provide for my family. Your jealousy/anger/whatever is ******* pathetic. You also have NO IDEA who you are ******* with. Delete all these posts or I ******* swear I will own your website. I know you have lawsuits coming from George too, 100% I swear on my mother's life. Your information is completely false, trust my heads up guys. Delete all this **** now.

[Soapboxmom]

Delete all Re: Bella Homes / George Dranichak / Scam.com / Sviat / Vladimir Sviatoslavich ...all posts.

Or expect lawsuits and much headaches.

I am new owner, I can offer an alliance or hundreds of thousands of dollars in litigation and sleepless nights.
I am offering a truce.

The past is the past, I dont know, don't care, I dont wanna know.
You are messing with my family and TRUST me that's not good.

There is NOTHING bad on scam.com about you, end this now.
You have George after you, you don't want me too.

They are an advertiser trying to do business. We have spoken with them on the phone and they are reasonable guys. Let me screen every single advertisier you have on your site.
Give me a BREAK! George was a consultant on the board til January, he is no longer with scam.com, this domain has been sold over 6 times so get over the past and let me try to provide for my family. Your jealousy/anger/whatever is ******* pathetic. You also have NO IDEA who you are ******* with. Delete all these posts or I ******* swear I will own your website. I know you have lawsuits coming from George too, 100% I swear on my mother's life. Your information is completely false, trust my heads up guys. Delete all this **** now.
First of all I have no idea who you are. Second, I don't respond to threats. Third, I don't cater to scammers. Fourth, we do not have any advertisements here, so who in the heck were you planning to screen? Have you read this thread? Bella has been shut down. There was a very good thread on Scam.com about that that was removed in order to advertise for that obvious scam. A birdy sent it to me and it is archived here. Bella did not have any reasonable guys in it. They are bunch of well dressed thugs that were defrauding desperate homeowners.

If you are a new owner then congratulations. There are still many threads about me and this site there and I don't expect that will change. There are threads on other forums such as Quatloos and JREF that discuss Scam.com and Mr. Dranichak as well. They don't remove threads without good cause either. If you in fact purchased Scam.com you did so with all this controversy already swirling around that dump of a site. You should have checked it out carefully and determined if you were willing to own such a site. How much more bad publicity do you want to generate? Are you really crazy enough to complain because you got caught advertising this Bella mortgage scam that was deemed fraudulent and shut down?

When you have calmed down you can send me a message and quote exactly any false information you find in a thread on here with documentation to refute it and I will retract, apologize and /or remove it as prudent. I make that offer to any party that complains. Otherwise we will carry on here with exposing scams, frauds and having pleasant exchanges.

Soapboxmom

[Soapboxmom]

My aren't you charming! As I said on the other thread where you had your first meltdown, if there is anything that is a false statement of fact on here send us the documentation to substantiate your claim and we will edit, retract, apologize or remove things as necessary and prudent. Threats and nasty meltdowns will not get the response you desire. If you are in fact a new owner, you bought Scam with all its colorful history. That history is archived on Quatloos and JREF as well. It is a little late to decide you don't like the controversy. Remember that old saying about staying out of the kitchen if you can't take the heat?

We are nothing like Scam. We do not advertise at this time. We do not cater to scammers. We do not remove truthful threads that are necessary to warn and inform the public. We do not have staff like Sojustask that are dishonest and unappreciative of those that volunteer. Don't ever compare us to that site. The people here truly work to serve others and advocate for scam victims. We are not making a penny for our work here.

Now, would you care to tell us what sent you into this rage? What brought this on today?

Soapboxmom

[Whip]

I'll guess seeing his lie exposed about being a pulitzer prize winner for starters. lol. Is there a message board lemon law?

[Soapboxmom]

I am all ears. Do tell us why Vladimir was posting on Facebook from George Dranichak's town in NY state. That would clear a lot of things up now wouldn't it?

http://www.realscam.com/f22/scam-com-george-dranichak-vladimir-sviatoslavich-sojustask-stephanie-haberman-38/index5.html#post15193

And, why is Sviat's picture on Zachary's profile here:

http://www.realscam.com/f15/bella-homes-george-dranichak-scam-com-sviat-vladimir-sviatoslavich-953/

Inquiring minds do want to know! Thanks!

Soapboxmom

[Soapboxmom]

I'll guess seeing his lie exposed about being a pulitzer prize winner for starters. lol. Is there a message board lemon law?

Maybe its 3 strikes and you are out!!!!

[littleroundman]

Smooth talkin' li'l fella, ain't he ???

Maybe what he says is true.

Maybe the "new" management at his forum will stop removing threads the moment they're threatened by fraudsters.

You know, threads warning people about Bella Homes, Charles Gregoire De Rothschild, the kind of thread which seem to mysteriously disappear with monotonous regularity on his forum.

Maybe, just maybe, Sviat IS serious about returning Scam.com to its' former preeminent position of warning 'net users of fraud and fraudsters.

Maybe he IS serious.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/experience.jpg

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WHOOPS, then again, maybe not.

[Soapboxmom]

The poor boy, if it is the owner of Scam, is just so exhausted from being overworked! LOL!!! If only he had some decent help, upgraded software and a brain!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOKK8mAkiUI


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Hey, you guys...
I was wondering if you'd do me a favor. This forum gets so much activity that I can't possibly read every single thread constantly and catch all the spam posts.

If you happen upon one while you're reading and responding, would you right click on the number of the post in the right hand corner, copy the link address, and then PM it to me or another mod so we can delete them?

I'd appreciate it very much as I don't get the messages from the 'report' buttons.

You don't HAVE to do anything, mind you, but I don't want to miss any spambot activity that might clutter up your threads.

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Re: Hey, you guys...
Zoe I don't know if its you soft deleting threads.

Permanently delete, ban people for life, and throw me ips in a PM one per line. I did around 30 people this morning, they post the same crap....watch some football game or cialis crap.

Its like Terminator...us against the robots.

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[Whip]

Maybe its 3 strikes and you are out!!!!

The meltdowns certainly are eerily similar to the classic clements meltdowns.

[littleroundman]

They are an advertiser trying to do business. We have spoken with them on the phone and they are reasonable guys.

That would be a relevant comment for someone who:

1) Wasn't running a website with the purpose of exposing fraud and fraudsters.
2) Hadn't removed threads containing warnings from members of said forum about said fraud and fraudsters.
3) If said fraudsters were not the subject of legal action:


Colorado Attorney General John Suthers and U.S. Attorney John Walsh announced today that they have filed a joint lawsuit against Georgia-based Bella Homes and its principals on suspicion that they ran a nationwide foreclosure-rescue scam between March 2010 and this February.

4) If Bella Homes hadn't admitted its' guilt in open court:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/bella.jpg

So, my little loudmouthed cyber bullying friend, slither back under your rock and concentrate on your own behaviour.

Little bit of a drinking problem, have we ??

P.S. Oh, and for chrissakes' stop making threats in public places, will you ??

Geez, at least try and be a LITTLE bit smart.

[Soapboxmom]

Scam.com

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The individual running this Facebook page is using the same e-mail as our very hostile new member. Someone should point out to this chap that public meltdowns are not in the least attractive and no legitimate outfit does business that way. If scam is going down the toilet and generating very little income that should be no surprise. It has always been overrun with spambots, scammers and mindless idiots posting. A few good souls still brave that cesspool in an effort to continue to warn and inform the public but they are few and far between, and there is little real traffic there. The forum software is old and the settings are such that it shows readers for hours and hours after they have dropped off so the numbers are exponentially and artificially inflated. And, one can read the who's online list and see many of the names are bots and not legitimate users. George's lack of involvement and disinterest in the site has left it a hopeless mess. The tens of thousands of bogus registrations over the years would be nearly impossible to clean up now and unpaid volunteers certainly aren't going to do it. He would never give anyone who wanted to help admin privileges so they could do anything to rectify the disaster. That dump just needs to be shut down!


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This profile is tied to the Scam.com profile on Facebook which is tied to the charming poster who melted down here. That individual is posting from NY state and not Serbia!

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Starting a MLM or Pyramid On Scam.com
I started a thread before about this.

What if I started a Pyramid program or MLM and guaranteed everyone would make money?

MLM is like UFOS and Spaceships......sooo many people believe, so many people say that it works, yet its a never ending debate and fight.

There HAS to be a legit way to make MLM work. I'll set it up and guarantee the whole thing. Obviously I have the most to lose because scam.com has a huge target on her back.

If scam.com cuts out all the scams and everyone makes money...what's wrong with it? Amway's making millions maybe billions legally......

Who is on board!?


What a complete moron. Has he looked at how an MLM is built?:
http://www.realscam.com/f9/why-do-they-call-them-pyramid-schemes-1173/
MLM is a math game that requires that one has passed elementary school level math to comprehend it. In MLM is mathematically impossible for everyone to make money. By design 97%+ must lose to pay the representatives higher on the pyramid. MLMs expand exponentially. Scam.com does have a huge target on its back and that cesspool needs to be shut down. The biggest scammer on there is the fruitcake owner. Better make sure he has millions in a special fund to reimburse the mathematically guaranteed losers in his scam before getting involved.

Amway the company makes money off of the clueless legions of reps that pay in. But, the company making money is in no way related to the success of the representatives. 97% are losing money and far more than that are losing if we include the forced purchases necessary to participate in the payplan. Sheesh!

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George has seeked legal counsil and I have a lawyer that is SOOOO confident he will win, he is working for free and on contingency for a huge percentage of what we sue you for. You can't expect to post lies and not suffer the consequences. I came to you as a gentleman and offered a an olive branch. You and your admin have 2 4hrs to comply.


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George has seeked legal counsil and I have a lawyer that is SOOOO confident he will win, he is working for free and on contingency for a huge percentage of what we sue you for. You can't expect to post lies and not suffer the consequences. I can to you as a gentleman and offered a an olive branch. You and your admin have 2 4 to comply.


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No extortion is necessary. Lies and libel has been posted and will be proven in a court of law, so simple. Please forward these to admin, We will own his car, his house, his website and end this nonsense once and for all. This isn't one bad thing posted about your website on scam.com. We want no troubles. We wish you and your business prosperity and success. This war on your end is unaccepatble. Last chance.


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I'm neither the owner nor a member of the staff here, Vladamir.

But I do know that the way you worded that could be construed as extortion. Is that really the tactic you want to take, or were you merely choosing your words poorly?


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I just bought the site in October. If you want to be friends, I'm offering a one time olive branch. Delete all scam.com posts asscoiating with porn and George, delete posts on him, and me Vlad. This can be so easy or so painful, and these aren't threats they are promises. George and his father are going after you especially since he neevr legally owned the website, he was hired as a consultant and his contract ended in January. You have 24 hrs to delete all posts. I would be happy to discuss futiure business or friendship ventures after that. I PROMISE if you don't I will or George will own your website and you will have 200,000+ in legal fees with 3 consecutive lawsuits.

Foward this to the owner please. Good day.


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Why am I on a clone website?

That's a good question, Vladamir, and one that deserves an answer.
I participate on scam.com as well as here, however, Scam.com changed their rules some time ago prohibiting posting full addresses and similar details about the scammers being reported upon. This site does not prohibit that, and as my preferred method of warning about cash gifters is the "name, shame, and get them shunned" method, being able to post full details helps greatly.

Secondly, there was an incident back 2008 when someone threatened to shoot both me, and a third party deputy sheriff, on scam.com. The thread was clearly marked as being evidence for the then-ongoing FBI investigation. Someone deleted it. I'm still annoyed about that.


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[Soapboxmom]

Vlad or whoever you are. I am giving you your very own thread. Now, there is some prep work you need to do. You are engaged in a very public controversy. You will need to find, quote and refute statements of fact if you are going to get anywhere. As I have already explained to you, any false statement of fact on here that you can refute we will take care of in a businesslike manner. You look quite silly melting about George Dranichak's adventures in porn. Quoting George would of course be factual and if he didn't want his life as a pimp, porn producer and porn promoter exposed he shouldn't have exposed it very publicly himself.

This site is not set up for the purpose of making money so there is no need to discuss any future business. I also have no desire to be friends with anyone associated with George. One is known by the company they keep and that is not company I would keep to be sure!

Soapboxmom

[Whip]

Why is it everyone else's fault he 'allegedly bought' a shithole? He needs to talk to the porn purveyor himself (mirror). lol. He should ban the mlm scammers from that site also. Does he go after the Ford dealer next door when the Chevy dealer sells him a lemon? lol.

[Soapboxmom]

Here is the real story of George Dranichak:

http://www.realscam.com/f8/guerillatraffic-com-george-dranichak-porn-affiliate-opportunity-new-persona-sviat-vladimir-sviatoslavich-127/

[Soapboxmom]

My, scamdotcom is certainly a pleasure to have around:

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[Soapboxmom]

scamdotcom should take a look at 47 USC 230 (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode47/usc_sec_47_00000230----000-.html). In relevant part, it reads: "No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider." In other words, the "scam site owner" is not liable for what others post. Moreover, since this is a federal statute, it preempts any state law to the contrary.

scamdotcom postulated:

Please forward these to admin, We will own his car, his house, his website and end this nonsense once and for all.
So, scamdotcom this nonsense you babbled is how I know you don't have legal counsel and don't understand how collection works. I, for one of your nemeses, am in Texas and creditors have basically no chance of collecting here. Even if you had a case (which you obviously don't), you wouldn't get beans from me or the owner based on federal and Texas law.

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Scam.com has no beef with realscam.com on my watch until now. Don't drag me or my family into old things. Bella Homes? REeally? They bought advertising through google and their ads show up everywhere. They had bought advertsiing through me directly and saved money. I am done wasting my time here. Be the hero and voice of reason if you care about your community here. I am a pragmatic and logical and fair man.



And, you are the owner of Scam???? Please, don't let the door hit you on the way out!

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You guys are fuicking with the wrong bull now. New owner and you dragging me into this old **** you have no idea the can of **** you opened you weak ass excuse of a cloned website.
**** you

Assuming you are the owner of Scam.com, it would seem you have the same ear for PR as some of the more notorious scammers online. Again -- assuming you are the owner of Scam.com -- it would seem that you're leading with your linguistic elbow on the theory you can bury it in RealScam's jaw to get what you demand. Are you worried about the PR fallout of such an approach -- I mean, assuming you are the owner of Scam.com?

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[Soapboxmom]

Assuming you are the owner of Scam.com, it would seem you have the same ear for PR as some of the more notorious scammers online. Again -- assuming you are the owner of Scam.com -- it would seem that you're leading with your linguistic elbow on the theory you can bury it in RealScam's jaw to get what you demand. Are you worried about the PR fallout of such an approach -- I mean, assuming you are the owner of Scam.com?

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I hope he is not going to just run off before we get to my favorite topic-----discovery!

From the Harvard Law site:
Darnell v. Dobrott | Citizen Media Law Project (http://www.citmedialaw.org/threats/darnell-v-dobrott)

That should clue him in to how successful his approach is likely to be. I love judge Carl Ginsburg!

Soapboxmom

[Whip]

scamdotcom should take a look at 47 USC 230 (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode47/usc_sec_47_00000230----000-.html). In relevant part, it reads: "No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider." In other words, the "scam site owner" is not liable for what others post. Moreover, since this is a federal statute, it preempts any state law to the contrary.

scamdotcom postulated:

So, scamdotcom this nonsense you babbled is how I know you don't have legal counsel and don't understand how collection works. I, for one of your nemeses, am in Texas and creditors have basically no chance of collecting here. Even if you had a case (which you obviously don't), you wouldn't get beans from me or the owner based on federal and Texas law.

Soapboxmom

Well, he clearly is using moneydownthedrain's crack investigative skills as proven by the PM to the Professor thinking he must have some influence or, maybe he is everyone. Apparently using big swear words is his first language. lol.

[ProfHenryHiggins]

There was a PM? I didn't see it.

[Soapboxmom]

There was a PM? I didn't see it.
I think the reference was to the quite charming visitor messages. My Vlad / George or whoever he is does use very colloquial speech to be sure!

Soapboxmom

[Soapboxmom]

-----Original Message-----
From: realscam.com@gmail.com [mailto:realscam.com@gmail.com] On Behalf Of scamdotcom @ RealScam.com - Is it, or isn't it? You Decide.
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 3:45 PM
To:
Subject: RealScam.com - Is it, or isn't it? You Decide. Contact Us Form - delete posts 24hrs

The following message was sent to you via the RealScam.com - Is it, or isn't it? You Decide. Contact Us form by scamdotcom ( mailto:scamcom@gmail.com (scamcom@gmail.com) ).

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View Profile: scamdotcom - RealScam.com - Is it, or isn't it? You Decide. (http://www.realscam.com/members/scamdotcom/)

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Referring Page: View Profile: scamdotcom - RealScam.com - Is it, or isn't it? You Decide. (http://www.realscam.com/members/scamdotcom/)
IP Address: 74.74.249.18
User Name: scamdotcom
User ID: 939
Email: scamcom@gmail.com
The owner just forwarded me this. Let me think about that for a minute.............

Ummmmmm. No!!!!!!!

Soapboxmom

[Whip]

The only place I read it was as a quote in this thread so I assumed it was a PM. Sorry.

[ProfHenryHiggins]

Try looking at scamdotcon's profile. That was from his visitor messages.

[Whip]

Try looking at scamdotcon's profile. That was from his visitor messages.

Oh. I never use those things on any board. lol.

[PPBlog]

They are an advertiser trying to do business. We have spoken with them on the phone and they are reasonable guys. Let me screen every single advertisier you have on your site.

Setting aside the issue that RealScam doesn't publish ads -- and assuming you are the owner of Scam.com . . .

If your point is that it's hard if not impossible for a venture that accepts third-party advertising to screen every conceivable advertiser or word combination that could trigger ads on a network such as Google, I'd agree with you. If your point is that publishing is a noble pursuit and that publishers are entitled to try to make a profit, I'd agree with you. If you sold ads to clever con men such as the Bella Homes' crew, I'd say you have little (but not nothing) to worry about, given that even mainstream publications sometimes get suckered by the likes of the Bella Homes' crew. There was a prominent example of this last year that involved a famous newspaper in the upper Midwest getting conned by scammers. I'm also aware of a smaller newspaper that accepted an ad that implied the current President of the United States should go the way of Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley and Kennedy.

A suggestion -- i.e., something you might want to run by your lawyer: If Scam.com accepted ad dollars from Bella Homes, should it contact the office of the Colorado AG and the U.S. Attorney in Colorado to return the funds? Those funds could be tainted.

In any event, I 'd disagree with you if your point is that Scam.com should be soliciting/selling ads from/to Bella Homes, an obvious fraud scheme that had been written about by the members of Scam.com. Soliciting/selling ads in that context is throwing your readers (and presumptive editorial mission) under the bus. It is particularly obnoxious if content was deleted to make Scam.com a more friendly place to Bella Homes, something that sends the signal that Scam.com has no standards at all and is at cross-purposes with its presumptive aim of educating the public about scams. It creates the appearance that advertisers can buy off negative press by throwing some cash at Scam.com.

Educating the public about scams is the mission, right?


Your jealousy/anger/whatever is ******* pathetic. You also have NO IDEA who you are ******* with. Delete all these posts or I ******* swear I will own your website. I know you have lawsuits coming from George too, 100% I swear on my mother's life. Your information is completely false, trust my heads up guys. Delete all this **** now.

You call hyper-aggressive language with the threats and menacing built in a "heads up?" And you call your forum an antiscam forum? Are you afraid that such language could tend to alienate a large segment of the Scam.com audience, perhaps a segment that views SBM as a person who has been subjected to invective and viciousness for years and hasn't left her post in the antiscam community?

It's true that she's at RealScam now, and I'm not acquainted with all of the history at Scam.com that led to the separation of once-prominent members such as SBM. But what I do know is that SBM represents this house now, and you are polluting it with your wicked tongue. That can hardly be seen as a source of comfort to the current membership of Scam.com, perhaps particularly the folks who hold SBM in high esteem and believe such language is inappropriate.

PPBlog

[littleroundman]

It is particularly obnoxious if content was deleted to make Scam.com a more friendly place to Bella Homes, something that sends the signal that Scam.com has no standards at all and is at cross-purposes with its presumptive aim of educating the public about scams. It creates the appearance that advertisers can buy off negative press by throwing some cash at Scam.com.



There's no [B]"IF" involved.

Mr Sviat is quite entitled to do as he wishes with his own forum.

HOWEVER, he cannot, at the same time, expect to remain uncriticized when he and/or his staff repeatedly remove complete threads exposing the criminal activities of those from whom Scam.com has accepted payment.

Bella Homes is only one of a number of fraudulent operations which have received favourable treatment from Scam.com by having threads critical of the operations removed from the forum.

From memory, PropertyWikia managed to have at least 2 threads removed from Scam.com.

Perhaps it's time Mr Sviat renamed his forum something other than "Scam.com" or included some sort of disclaimer on his front page indicating the forums' new direction, which apparently does not include fearless exposure of scams and scammers.

[Soapboxmom]

Thank you PPBlog, you put it so much more eloquently than I could. George removed dozens and dozens of threads under threat or incentive from total scams or the scammers promoting them. When Tim Darnell sued me I alerted Dranichak that numerous threads were crucial to the ongoing litigation. When I won, I told him the judge ruled that I had won in all respects with a take nothing judgment and that nothing was to be removed period. One of those threads had over 220,000 reads, so he must have had some economic incentive to zap it. That scum bum idiot hard deleted those thousands of posts that had been litigated in my favor. He is the most dishonest idiot I have had the displeasure of working for (for free I night add). That cesspool needs to be shut down and I am going to keep the pressure on that bunch.
Soapboxmom

[Soapboxmom]

Now they look really stupid! Answer the question Zoe!



03-25-2012, 10:12 PM





http://www.scam.com/image.php?u=207148&dateline=1326321668 (http://www.scam.com/member.php?u=207148)
EvilZoe (http://www.scam.com/member.php?u=207148) http://www.scam.com/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif
Gonna sting you if you act like you need stingin'


Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Arizona
Posts: 2,634
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Re: Let's Have A Chat
Quote:


Originally Posted by Kermit The Frog http://www.scam.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?p=1155191#post1155191)
For who ever added in my post "Which 'other' forum? There are several "others"...lol"

im not sure who added that in my post..... EvilZoe was that you?


In any event the other forum i was referring to was RealScam.... there are alot of strange things going on that i think need to be explained and addressed.

Is the owner of scam really g oing to sue realscam?





ACK! I hit the wrong button....LOL Sorry.

I don't think we need to discuss that here in this thread. This is pretty much about the Politics forum.

It's probably better to leave that crap on RS, too. We don't need the drama here. We have our own.

[Doc Bunkum]

Now prolific scam artist Faith Sloan is getting in on the action!

She put up a whole page devoted to George on her blog:

Faith Sloan Scams: Scam.com Owner, George Dranichak, Porn King and Scammer? (http://faithsloan.com/2011/10/18/faithsloan-com-scam-com-owner-george-dranichak-porn-king-and-scammer/)

Somehow, I find the irony here quite funny! :RpS_smile:

[Doc Bunkum]

And this one also:

Scam.com Owner and Moderators Sleazy Pornography Purveyors? (http://faithsloan.com/2011/11/02/scam-com-owner-and-moderators-sleazy-pornography-purveyors/)

Cute!:RpS_wink:


I might add, the tags to her blog are interesting!

Tags: child pornography, Faith Sloan scam, George, pornography, scam.com, scammers

[Whip]

Now prolific scam artist Faith Sloan is getting in on the action!

She put up a whole page devoted to George on her blog:

Faith Sloan Scams: Scam.com Owner, George Dranichak, Porn King and Scammer? (http://faithsloan.com/2011/10/18/faithsloan-com-scam-com-owner-george-dranichak-porn-king-and-scammer/)

Somehow, I find the irony here quite funny! :RpS_smile:


And this one also:

Scam.com Owner and Moderators Sleazy Pornography Purveyors? (http://faithsloan.com/2011/11/02/scam-com-owner-and-moderators-sleazy-pornography-purveyors/)

Cute!:RpS_wink:


I might add, the tags to her blog are interesting!

Tags: child pornography, Faith Sloan scam, George, pornography, scam.com, scammers

Seems both of these are from around 2010/early 2011. Makes sviat look the bigger fool as his 'due diligence' (LOL!) would have brought this out before the alleged 'purchase' of the lemon.

[littleroundman]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/scamspam2.jpg

See if you can pick the spam bots from that list of Currently Active Users, then ask yourself, did Sviat know what percentage of the forum "users" were spam bots BEFORE he shelled out for his new toy ??

Is it any wonder he's like a bear with a sore head ???

[littleroundman]

"And the Lord sayeth to young Sviat: Or how can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me take out the speck that is in your eye,' when you yourself do not see the log that is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take out the speck that is in your brother's eye.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/dutch.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/russian.jpg

[Soapboxmom]

That lovely thread where our very green friend Kermit inquired about whether Scam.com was going to sue RS has been removed. I haven't found a cache of it yet. Why does Vladigeorge or whoever he is not want to discuss that?

Discovery, to put it in language he can understand, would necessitate him / they turning over everything but their used toilet paper pretty much and his targets would know everything but his / their underwear size when it was all over. Now, that would make for some informative posting. Before one goes ballistic online they should consult a licensed attorney and not some clown like Tim Darnell and make sure they are clear on their options and the very real consequences to their choice of actions. Vladigeorge has skillfully managed to scare off many more posters and advertisers as they don't want to risk being sued by a hothead or associated with the Scam.com porn empire such as it is. Frivolous suits waste tens of thousands of dollars, inordinate amounts of time and generate tons of negative publicity. And, everyone knows my favorite thing to do is publish juicy court documents!!! Maybe Vladimir should sue George for not accurately disclosing the true nature of the site he was purchasing.

Soapboxmom

[scamdotcom]

Ok I'll play for a little bit.

The avatar thing is stupid. We had serious super moderator issues with the server and access.
I logged in with Zachary login, changed it to my name, changed the password and made it Administrator.
There's no controversy, it was a tech issue.

The person that messaged me I was under assumption that he was the owner. I am very angered that that are dragging my family name through with false accusations when I did nothing wrong.

I had no idea you have issue with Sojustask...I JUST talked to her last week for first time. Mumbles is my goto guy.

I will gladly delete anything about you and if ANYONE on my site disrespected you or hurt you and I inherited this unknowingly....they are gone, simple and I will make it up to you if possible. Give me urls, delete this nonsense and lets make friends. George is no longer with the site, I hired him as a consultant during the transition.

[scamdotcom]

See I have a lawyer on contingency. He doesn't get paid unless we get money. Wiki that. He's so confident on all this he agreed to it. We will own your house and website. I am offering an olive branch.

[Soapboxmom]

See I have a lawyer on contingency. He doesn't get paid unless we get money. Wiki that. He's so confident on all this he agreed to it. We will own your house and website. I am offering an olive branch.
The owner is anonymous and is not legally responsible for posts made by people on this site. To repeat for the umpteenth time:

47 USC 230 (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode47/usc_sec_47_00000230----000-.html). In relevant part, it reads: "No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider." In other words, the "scam site owner" is not liable for what others post. Moreover, since this is a federal statute, it preempts any state law to the contrary.

If you are suggesting you want to sue me personally, you might want to read this court case:
Darnell v. Dobrott | Citizen Media Law Project (http://www.citmedialaw.org/threats/darnell-v-dobrott)

Again, you should check the collection laws. You cannot touch my home and garnishments in Texas are only done for child support and IRS levies. It wouldn't hurt to read up on jurisdiction either.

You did take the site as is. If you had checked it out it would have been obvious it was overrun with spambots, and a had very colorful history with ex-members and ex-staff. Good luck with Sojustask!

Soapboxmom

[ProfHenryHiggins]

See I have a lawyer on contingency. He doesn't get paid unless we get money. Wiki that. He's so confident on all this he agreed to it. We will own your house and website. I am offering an olive branch.


Um, no. Taking someone's home as part of a lawsuit through the courts does not hold water in much (perhaps all) of the United States, particularly if there are minors involved. There are protections in existence regarding personal residences, and with the growing issue of sovereign citizens filing fraudulent liens, judges are becoming less friendly towards people who abuse the legal system in that particular fashion.

I don't know of protections regarding website ownership, but if your lawyer thinks that you're going to get the owner's house, you may be dealing with a Hugo Ingermann.

[laidback]

Oh, Boy...! Another hostile beating the lawsuit drum....! BTW, you don't have a lawyer on contingency... you may have a lawyer willing to take a case on a contingency basis, but only if he sees the possibility of a fat payday for him at the end of the process. If your attorney sees that here, he is in desperate need of new spectacles...!

[littleroundman]

See I have a lawyer on contingency. He doesn't get paid unless we get money. Wiki that. He's so confident on all this he agreed to it. We will own your house and website. I am offering an olive branch.

Oh, stop it, you silly child.

You're not going to sue anybody, and you know it.

All you're doing is making yourself look foolish (and that would be "foolish in the extreme") with every succeeding post.

FACT: Threads about Bella Homes were removed, and, what's more, on more than one occasion.

FACT: Threads about Property Wikia were removed, also on more than one occasion.
In fact, the fraudsters behind Property Wikia were able to use the fact the threads were removed to prove the "legitimacy" of their business.

FACT: Threads about other frauds have frequently been removed.

FACT: George and/or his staff have lied about 1) his identity on the forum 2) the supposed sale of the forum, on more than one occasion.

FACT: George has been, and continues to be, involved in the pornography business

FACT: Scam.coms' claimed viewer numbers are heavily skewed by the inclusion of an extremely large number of spambots:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/alexaforscamtoday.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/scamtoday-1.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/scamnextday.jpg

If you, or any of your staff want to argue the fact many/most of those "alphabet" names are genuine users and not spambots or that the 3000plus "guest" shown are genuine, fine, go right ahead.

I would recommend you could spend your time far more productively by attempting to rebuild Scam.coms' by now almost non existent credibility than huffing and puffing and making empty threats here.

To quote the great raconteur and philosopher, Foghorn Leghorn: "Go away, kid, yer botherin' me"

[EagleOne]

Ok I'll play for a little bit.

The avatar thing is stupid. We had serious super moderator issues with the server and access.
I logged in with Zachary login, changed it to my name, changed the password and made it Administrator.
There's no controversy, it was a tech issue.

The person that messaged me I was under assumption that he was the owner. I am very angered that that are dragging my family name through with false accusations when I did nothing wrong.

I had no idea you have issue with Sojustask...I JUST talked to her last week for first time. Mumbles is my goto guy.

I will gladly delete anything about you and if ANYONE on my site disrespected you or hurt you and I inherited this unknowingly....they are gone, simple and I will make it up to you if possible. Give me urls, delete this nonsense and lets make friends. George is no longer with the site, I hired him as a consultant during the transition.

You are not the owner of scam.com, as everyone here knows that I am. I am because moneymakingbrain said I was, and that I also own this forum too. Now be careful or moneymakingbrain will claim that you are me too.

If you doubt me, then just visit the thread devoted entirely to him under the Ranting, Raving and other Ridiculous Diatribes section. You will see that he has irrefutable proof that I am the owner of scam.com. And his IP Detector doesn't lie. Just ask him, or better yet look at his rants on scam.com. You know the forum you thought you bought but I really own, well according to moneymakingbrain that is.

[wserra]

See I have a lawyer on contingency.Well, that's nice. See, I am a lawyer. Moreover, for the last 36 years I've been a litigator. I now only do things like defamation suits (actually, mainly medical malpractice - but all torts, like defamation, and all litigation).
He doesn't get paid unless we get money.Like every case in my office.
Wiki that.No need.
He's so confident on all this he agreed to it.So who is this confident advocate? Let me make a gentleman's bet: you're not gonna tell us. I wonder why that is? After all, the last time a lawyer threatened to sue this site - some guy named Julian Weider from Howard Kennedy in London - the thread with his empty threats became the number two hit on a google of, well, "Julian Weider". I'm sure he's thrilled about that.

These types of threats are jokes.
We will own your house and website.Well, of course you will, 47 USC 230 and all. An internet Rambo who doesn't even give his real name.
I am offering an olive branch.This isn't my site. If it was, and I were a less cultured person than I am, I would suggest a good use for your olive branch.

[littleroundman]

I would suggest a good use for your olive branch.

As would I.

Thus wasting a perfectly good good olive branch.

(BTW, Mr Sviat, that's AustrALIA not AustrIA should your lawyer friend finding himself having any difficulties with service of notices)

[Soapboxmom]

This thread still causes riotous laughter to those who were tangled up with Scam back in the day. The owner of Scam is certainly a character. And, it is fascinating that he hails from Belgrade Serbia, but all his posts and threatening e-mails come from:



IP Address: 74.74.249.18 http://www.ip2location.com/images/share-this-result.gif


Location
http://www.ip2location.com/images/flags/us.png UNITED STATES, NEW YORK, ROCHESTER


Latitude, Longitude
43.15478, -77.61556 (43°9'17"S -77°36'56"E)


Connection through
ROAD RUNNER HOLDCO LLC


Local Time
21 Sep, 2012 07:15 AM (UTC -04:00)


Domain
RR.COM


Net Speed
DSL


Area Code
585


IDD Code
1


ZIP Code
14602


Weather Station
ROCHESTER (USNY1232)


Mobile Country Code (MCC)
-


Mobile Network Code (MNC)
-


Carrier Name
-


I guess he and George Dranichak just can't separate themselves. The mods left at Scam should compare IPs! Fun!!!

[Blue Wolf]

Let me see . . .

It's now been half a year since George/Zachary/Sviat . . . who comes from Belgrade, Serbia/Rochester, New York . . . made this comment:

www.realscam.com (http://www.realscam.com/f8/scam-com-threatening-realscam-com-george-dranichak-vladimir-sviatoslavich-1175/index2.html#post18231)

"See I have a lawyer on contingency. He doesn't get paid unless we get money. Wiki that. He's so confident on all this he agreed to it. We will own your house and website. I am offering an olive branch."

So, has he sued anybody here yet?

Has anybody lost a house? Or a website?

Or anything?

[Soapboxmom]

Let me see . . .

It's now been half a year since George/Zachary/Sviat . . . who comes from Belgrade, Serbia/Rochester, New York . . . made this comment:

www.realscam.com (http://www.realscam.com/f8/scam-com-threatening-realscam-com-george-dranichak-vladimir-sviatoslavich-1175/index2.html#post18231)

"See I have a lawyer on contingency. He doesn't get paid unless we get money. Wiki that. He's so confident on all this he agreed to it. We will own your house and website. I am offering an olive branch."

So, has he sued anybody here yet?

Has anybody lost a house? Or a website?

Or anything?
Since it is glaringly apparent that Vladimir Sviatoslavich is another of George Dranichak's multiple personalities he really didn't dare file suit. Wouldn't want the few Kool-aid drinkers to find out the site was was never sold. So, Scams traffic continues to drop like a rock as the porn producer and spammer desperately tries to find ways to make cash off of the site. Hilarious!!!

[activeone]

I wouldn't be too fussed, there wouldn't be too many people with half a brain between their ears taking the baseless negative propaganda here seriously, posted by people too gutless to put up their real name, address and phone number, because they know darn well if they did, they'd be served and hauled in front of a magistrate and dealt with the due processes of law.


You guys are fuicking with the wrong bull now. New owner and you dragging me into this old **** you have no idea the can of **** you opened you weak ass excuse of a cloned website.
**** you

[Whip]

And yet, here you are with a 'fake name'. lol. hypocrite much?
It clearly does cause a fuss with you and other scammers or you wouldn't need to be here to try and make this site irrelevant

[littleroundman]

they'd be served and hauled in front of a magistrate and dealt with the due processes of law.

wanna bet ?????

[Soapboxmom]

I wouldn't be too fussed, there wouldn't be too many people with half a brain between their ears taking the baseless negative propaganda here seriously, posted by people too gutless to put up their real name, address and phone number, because they know darn well if they did, they'd be served and hauled in front of a magistrate and dealt with the due processes of law.

Another one of those moments in time where one must utter those famous words that were the stirring yet so eloquently precise criticism given to P.D.Q. Bach. "Hats back on gentlemen -- an idiot!!!"

Soapboxmom

[littleroundman]

posted by people too gutless to put up their real name, address and phone number,

Gee,

your parents certainly had a warped sense of humour naming their child "activeone"

It must have been hard growing up with "activeone" as a "real name"

I can just see your first day at school:

"Fred Smith - here

Mary Brown - here

Arthur Snodgrass - present

activeone - yes ma'am, here"