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MoneyMakingBrain
02-17-2012, 04:23 PM
Here he is, that international man of mystery.

Or, should that be "International Frederick Mann of mystery"

Frederick Mann, himself:

Is it REALLY "Frederick Mann" is it some poor guy whose picture has been hijacked, or, is it Freddy as he was back in the 1960s or 70s ??

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/mann.png

This site says it is young "Fred"

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQdcl3g2Hl6YPZ8A5CUqB1V5LdBYJZPf yF_yHOYqMuHZThGw-_q

http://bloggingfornetworking.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Frederick-Mann-JSS-Tripler.jpg (http://bloggingfornetworking.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Frederick-Mann-JSS-Tripler.jpg)

Yes, I agree with all of you and I've also heard that Fred is going to commit career suicide by running away with all the money in a special rocket ship built by NASA going to Mars (and payed with this "Ponzi" scheme).

Seriously, consider the facts:

Fred Mann, does exist.
Fred Mann is a wealthy man indeed.
Fred is a not crazy, maybe a bit of a dreamer, but not insane.
Fed is a an older guy, who's been around the block a few times (done this, done that).
Fred knows more about math than all of you put together, maybe he didn't write "the code" or "the math" himself, but he is behind all this.

Why is this sustainable?
Because there are 'restarts'. Sure, if you were in the middle of one cycle earning $200 per day, you could be restarted and have your daily cash earnings slowed down to $40/day, that is, until you compound more in the coming weeks. Regardless, that still pisses people off, but they don't lose their money.

The problem for me is not whether this is sustainable, or not. Nothing is "sustainable" in life, so don't be naive, that's a physical impossibility. One look on the cosmos and you know that.

The problem for me is what's going to happen when the general public is made aware of, in spite of you, governments, the FTC and FCC, etc.

Will they have to add to do more restarts more often and at a lower interest rate in order to cope for the big demand?
How would the matrix deal with the massive demand for new positions, otherwise?
Will they have to lower the interest rate gradually?
How would that be perceived among investors?
Would this create more matrices promising more?
Would JBP lose popularity and be forced to end?
Everybody knows that any losers will be those running positions on the last 75 days of the matrix.
The question is, will Fred announce the end of it and payback/payout these people if this should happen?

As you can see I am way ahead of you. Maybe year 2014.

The reason why things are not sustainable, though, has nothing to do with Fred or the folks behind JPB.
I predict that Just Been Paid will be victim of his own success and just like Facebook who grew and grew (and continues) because of its user base, it will die because of its lack of advertisement dollar value. BTW, if someone ever made real money with Facebook ads, please show me those screenshots.
http://musicmasteringonline.com/re-moneymakingbrain.gif

So, before these business systems collapse, the writing will be on the wall. But, I give JBP at least a couple of years, maybe a few more. I could be wrong, of course, and the matrix will grow, the decline , then stabilize. Remember, there is still that company called AOL. The most important thing to keep in mind is that you can bank on the fact that Frederick Mann is behind it. The man has good intentions and has dreams of a better, more financially free world. Good luck with that.

littleroundman
02-17-2012, 11:21 PM
Yes, I agree with all of you

yada,

yada,

yada.

But, I give JBP at least a couple of years, maybe a few more.

Cool,

While we're waiting, my unicorn is looking for a new home.

$2000 Alertpay or Liberty Reserve and he's yours:

http://www.gifs-paradise.com/animated_gifs/unicorns/animated-gifs-unicorns-009.gif

Oh, and I have a bridge for sale:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f0/Brooklyn_Bridge_Postdlf.jpg/280px-Brooklyn_Bridge_Postdlf.jpg

MoneyMakingBrain
02-18-2012, 05:30 AM
Well then,
http://musicmasteringonline.com/re-moneymakingbrain.gif
you'll never be as rich as Frederick Mann, will you ???

Anyway, you're just an anonymous name on an internet forum.

While Frederick Mann, he's a.................err, he's done...................umm, well he's well known for his......................................anyway, he's, he's, he's.............................................. ........

Hmmnn, better ask "moneymakingbrain" what he's done, he seems to know young Freddie personally.

Surely MMB isn't just parroting stuff he's read around the usual suspect forums, he MUST have met Mr Mann.

There is a conflict of interest here and you, as an "administrator" should take a more unbiased role. Be a wise man: be moderator and keep your opinions to yourself. When you do speak in your own forum, speak from a place of knowledge not speculation, if we are going to be talking about another man, who you don't even know, that is.

Last but not least, don't let people see how you disrespect strangers ("Freddie") because it only weakens your position, not the other way around.

If you don't know who Frederick Mann is, just go to BuildFreedom.com -- Free World Order (http://www.buildfreedom.com/)
Then ask yourself, would a man who advocates for universal freedom (since 1997) would engage, let alone mastermind, the creation of a program that is going to devastate the lives of thousands of people?

Now, moderate, Mr. "Administrator".

littleroundman
02-18-2012, 07:02 AM
With the greatest of respect, "MoneyMakingBrain" you're talking like an internet newbie who is about to be ripped off to within an inch of his/her life.

You've typed a lot of words, but what proof have you provided ??

There's a website.....so what ???

"Administrators should take a more unbiased role" Err, hello ??? Is this the United Nations ?? Is there some sort of Universal Bill of Rights in operation here I haven't heard about ??

"don't let people see how you disrespect strangers" Ummn, I "let" people see how I disrespect Freddie, because I DO disrespect Frederick Mann

He he's run several get-rich-quick schemes and he is behind a HYIP ponzi fraud which rips off innocent and naive people.

Not only do I "disrespect" him, given half a chance, I'd beat the bottoms of his feet with sharp sticks until his nose bleeds.

In fact, "disrespect" is too mild a word.

"contemptuous of" goes close.

"Hope he gets prosecuted" ain't half bad.

as for:

"Then ask yourself, would a man who advocates for universal freedom (since 1997) would engage, let alone mastermind, the creation of a program"


How about YOU ask Bernard Madoff the same question, then report back with his answer ??

You've undoubtedly heard the expression "wet behind the ears"

You, my young friend are positively dripping down the back of your neck if you think ANYTHING you've posted WRT Frederick Mann and/or Just Been Paid is anywhere near the truth.

Everything you've said is straight out of the "HYIP Ponzi Newbies' Handbook" IOW, you've said NOTHING you haven't been told BY THE FRAUDSTERS.

Posting about HYIP ponzi scams is good for the self esteem.

It's IMPOSSIBLE to be wrong.

The only variable is the time span.

2 months and we'll never see or hear of Just Been Paid again.

MoneyMakingBrain
02-18-2012, 07:59 AM
With the greatest of respect, "MoneyMakingBrain" you're talking like an internet newbie who is about to be ripped off to within an inch of his/her life.

Speak for yourself. I have done due diligence. That said, I'll be more than happy to read your investigative reports, see your evidence, verify your findings about Fredrick Mann and his business on the web.

Quite frankly, just by reading your posts to me, I have more doubts about your character and integrity than Fred's.

Now, please show what you've got on Fred that I've completely missed here.

MoneyMakingBrain
02-18-2012, 09:03 AM
Thanks Baylee.

While that was an interesting read, I am not concerned about the opinions of the CIA. or the Italian authorities. That court case is not surprising to me at all. I am interested in performance, credentials and results. So if you're trying to make a point based on Ponzi schemes history, or a court case that has no legal base (9 months old), then look for Frederick Mann. If you do just that, you'll find out that is a lot easier to contact, maybe even talk to directly (e.g., go to one of his web conferences) than finding out who the real guy behind PatrickPretty.com
(http://www.patrickpretty.com/about/) is.

FYI, JustBeenPaid is a legal company, represented by a real law firm. If you're doing due diligence and not reading what anonymous authors say, you will call this lawyer and ask: Why are you risking you entire law firm by associating yourself with someone who is doing Ponzi and committing a crime? Do that and find out what a "REAL" professional making more money than all of you put together (or you wouldn't be posting and talking amongst yourselves in this thread as much as you do) has to say about Fredrick Mann. I am not saying that there is no chance that something may go wrong and JBP won't succeed in this incredible undertaking, I am saying that I doubt that someone with such a view on the world and humanity would actually contemplate creating one of the biggest scams the world has ever seen and go down in history that way.

He's got money for crying out loud, I just can believe in the idea that he decided to ruin his life and go to jail just to make a few more millions. If Warren Buffet was behind all of you would be already running positions Ponzi scheme or not.

I guess time will tell.

littleroundman
02-18-2012, 09:22 AM
contemplate creating one of the biggest scams the world has ever seen and go down in history that way.

You poor, poor child.

You really HAVE been taken in hook,line and sinker, haven't you ??

You haven't just drunk the KoolAid, you're swimming in it.

Mate, this HYIP doesn't even make it to the top of the list of biggest scams THIS YEAR, much less one of the biggest the world has seen.

For goodness' sake, don't you get it ??

You don't "know" anything.

Your so called "due diligence" is what people whose business experience is what they see on TV and read on HYIP forums call "due diligence"

It is NOT, in any sense the "due diligence" done in the real world.

All you know is what you've been told or read on a website.

Fred says he has a lawyer does NOT equate to due diligence.

Fred says he's a millionaire does NOT equate to Fred actually being a millionaire.

"Due diligence" my a**

You wouldn't know "due diligence" if it jumped up and bit you on the nose.

The only surprising thing is that you haven't used the words "libel and slander" in defending the creep.

That's normally the next stage of the scam.

MoneyMakingBrain
02-18-2012, 09:51 AM
How classy of you. And now you have to resort to abusive tactics (editing out what I have to say and showing what's convenient to you). I have as much interest in getting to the bottom of this as you do, the difference is, while you base your point in your personal opinions about past Ponzie schemes and your irrational hate to a man you don't even know, I am, at least, asking the right questions. I was also just replying another user, and you have (administrator or not) no moral right to intervene this way and be tampering with my posts.

The only thing you've proven to me is that you are an abusive administrator and your name "little man" is fitting. Get off your moral high horse.

littleroundman
02-18-2012, 10:04 AM
Umm "tampering with your post ????

Who has tampered with your post ??

Your post wasn't touched.

As you have less than 5 posts, the forum software automatically submits your post for approval as an anti spam device ESPECIALLY if said post contains URLs as yours does.

Approval was given, and your unedited post appears exactly as written by you.

You obviously failed to recognize the reason your post was held up and resubmitted another post the same/similar to the first.

As for your no "moral right" claim.

This is a forum known as REAL SCAM.com (http://www.realscam.com)

It's purpose is to expose and discuss "scams"

The only immorality here is that being displayed by the slimebucket Frederick Mann and Just Been Paid and its' sycophants.

Further, if you don't find me to be arrogant, condescending, critical and abusive, either I'm not trying hard enough or you're missing the point.

MoneyMakingBrain
02-18-2012, 11:20 AM
Approval was given, and your unedited post appears exactly as written by you.


So you now expect me to believe that the PHP script failed to post my entire reply, yet, it only resolved a section of a line in a paragraph that I wrote? Umm...something must be wrong with your BB script.

Well then, unlike you, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. :RpS_wink:

Here is what I posted before (see what you replied to in bold):


Thanks Baylee.

While that was an interesting read, I am not concerned about the opinions of the CIA. or the Italian authorities. That court case is not surprising to me at all. However, I am interested in performance, credentials and results. So, if you're trying to make a point based on past Ponzi schemes, history, or a court case that has no legal base (9 months old now), then look for Frederick Mann. If you do just that, you'll find out that is a lot easier to contact, maybe even faster if you talk to him directly (e.g., go to one of his web conferences) than finding out who the real guy behind PatrickPretty.com (http://www.patrickpretty.com/about/) is.

FYI, JustBeenPaid is a legal company, represented by a real law firm. If you're doing due diligence and not reading what anonymous authors or posters say, you will call this lawyer and ask: Why are you risking you entire law firm by associating yourself with someone who is doing Ponzi and allegedly committing a crime? Do that and find out what a "REAL" professional making more money than all of you put together (or you wouldn't be posting and talking amongst yourselves in this thread as much as you do) has to say about Fredrick Mann.

I am not saying that there is no chance that something may go wrong and JBP won't succeed in this incredible undertaking, I am saying that I doubt that someone with such a grand view on the world and humanity would actually contemplate creating one of the biggest scams the world has ever seen and go down in history that way.

He's got money for crying out loud, I just can't believe in the idea that he decided to ruin his life and go to jail just to make a few more millions. If

Warren Buffet was behind this, all of you would be already running JBP positions, Ponzi scheme or not.

I guess time will tell.


So, that's what I said to your user "Baylee".

Look, I don't care if you are the only one posting, or talking to yourself on your own forum. I am only interested in getting real proof that Fred is done something real dirty. If you do that, and with irrefutable proof, you'll find that we could be formidable allies, and I have the power to stop what Fred is doing on his tracks. You don't know me littleman, so stop making further assumptions about me. You are not even invisible to me. I already know all of your IP addresses in Perth to track you down on the web. If I choose to, I can find out your real name, but I'm not interested in you. You can do the same of course, but it will lead you to a legitimate organization based in Brooklyn, NYC.

So get real, stop resorting to the use of your antics to make a point, and help me find out if Fred is really going to do something unexpected; not by ranting out loud against him like a silly juvenile, but with undeniable proof of any scam that you believe he is been involved with.

Thank you,

littleroundman
02-18-2012, 11:50 AM
Mate,

I think you're confusing me with someone who cares whether you do or do not invest with Frederick Mann.

In fact, please DON'T believe me.

Mortgage your house, sell the farm, advise your parents to invest their superannuation and pensions with Just Got Paid.

I stand to lose or gain nothing, either way.

As for providing adequate "proof" to satisfy your requirements, I'd be pretty disappointed in Fred if such "proof" was freely available on the 'net.

This is a forum for discussion of fraud and fraudsters. If we or I don't satisfy your requirements, fine, don't listen, go to the TALKGOLD (www.talkgold.com) or moneymakergroup[/B].com/]MMG (www.[B) or any of the other HYIP ponzi forums.

They will appreciate your "due diligence" skills and will doubtlessly supply you with all the inside info on Freddie and Co.

"Proof" will be available when and if JustBeenPaid is prosecuted and investigators get "inside" the company.

As for your thinly veiled threats of tracking me down, go for it.

In fact, why don't you track me down, pass the info along to Freddie and encourage him to get this slander and libel into court where he can explain to the judge exactly how his multi squillion dollar business works and sue me.

littleroundman
02-18-2012, 11:59 AM
So you now expect me to believe that the PHP script failed to post my entire reply, yet, it only resolved a section of a line in a paragraph that I wrote? Umm...something must be wrong with your BB script.

Umm, err,

why would what you posted be any different than post #245 which is 5 posts back HERE (http://www.realscam.com/f8/justbeenpaid-810/index10.html#post15986) and how was it altered ???

MoneyMakingBrain
02-18-2012, 12:43 PM
I think you're confusing me with someone who cares whether you do or do not invest with Frederick Mann.

In fact, please DON'T believe me.

Why doesn't your reply surprise me at all? If you've got no concerns about people getting scammed while you claim to be the "REAL" scams forum, then what are you doing here? Do you have a day job? Are you hoping to drive more traffic through scandalous posts via Google? The truth is, I don't care about your opinion at this point, and I would advise anyone reading this, to take what you've said ("confusing me with someone who cares") face value. You are only interested in being correct about somebody who you don't even know. http://musicmasteringonline.com/re-moneymakingbrain.gif

So, until then, he is innocent until proven guilty. Mind you that, everything I've posted is being mirrored back to another site forum and is being read by many more people. So, deleting or cutting parts of this post, will only confirm the kind of individual I suspect you really are.

MoneyMakingBrain
02-18-2012, 06:13 PM
Thanks Baylee, I appreciate your civility and thank you, but what you said doesn't really help me much. I am really more interested in hearing the opposite; posts that indicate that nobody is getting their fifty thousand dollar payout (remember, everyday, supposedly, there's a cycle that expires), I'd be interested to investigate even a $100 loss. I am actually sending spies daily to monitor that site, and there is something we found rather disturbing right now, not a game over kind of thing because it could be easily explained. But, we're just getting a bit impatient and still waiting on their answers, so stay tuned, we'll see. If I find dirt on Fred that I can really make a case against him, he's finished, count on it.

baylee
02-18-2012, 07:46 PM
Thanks Baylee, I appreciate your civility and thank you, but what you said doesn't really help me much. I am really more interested in hearing the opposite; posts that indicate that nobody is getting their fifty thousand dollar payout (remember, everyday, supposedly, there's a cycle that expires), I'd be interested to investigate even a $100 loss. I am actually sending spies daily to monitor that site, and there is something we found rather disturbing right now, not a game over kind of thing because it could be easily explained. But, we're just getting a bit impatient and still waiting on their answers, so stay tuned, we'll see. If I find dirt on Fred that I can really make a case against him, he's finished, count on it.

You say you are not interested in the CIA ( I have no idea what the CIA has to do with this ) or the Italians (Consob) (your words) but want to make a case and have answers and dirt on Fred, I would think that the Italians (Consob) would be a logical starting point. Read the forums as history always repeats itself. This scam is/will be no different. I think you have an agenda and time will see what it is.

littleroundman
02-18-2012, 08:03 PM
Why doesn't your reply surprise me at all? If you've got no concerns about people getting scammed while you claim to be the "REAL" scams forum, then what are you doing here? Do you have a day job? Are you hoping to drive more traffic through scandalous posts via Google? The truth is, I don't care about your opinion at this point, and I would advise anyone reading this, to take what you've said ("confusing me with someone who cares") face value. You are only interested in being correct about somebody who you don't even know. http://musicmasteringonline.com/re-moneymakingbrain.gif

So, until then, he is innocent until proven guilty. Mind you that, everything I've posted is being mirrored back to another site forum and is being read by many more people. So, deleting or cutting parts of this post, will only confirm the kind of individual I suspect you really are.

Oh, believe me, I am concerned whether people get scammed.

What I'm NOT concerned about is smartass posters who claim to have done "due diligence" while criticizing the quality of advice they're being given.

I'm NOT concerned about the potential losses of anonymous posters who give not so subtle hints about being part of some group of international spies while talking the sort of nonsense normally employed by HYIP ponzi pimps.

I can say with confidence you and your "friends" have no experience in this area.

Your "due diligence" simply isn't.

Your threats are hollow.

Your naivete is obvious.

You ignore, in fact, decry the actions of respected agencies such as CONSOB.

IF, and I repeat IF, I was doing this to make friends, I MIGHT be ever so slightly concerned by your criticism.

The information is there, use it or don't.

It's your decision and your money.

MoneyMakingBrain
02-18-2012, 10:17 PM
Littleman, you're trying desperately to provoke my anger with your comments, but what you don't realize is that you don't interest me at all. Once again, you don't have a clue as to who I am. However, here are the facts: You are either operating multiple sock puppets or meat puppets accounts in violation of your own terms, either way you've been playing me all along. You have to get your dictator syndrome checked out (before you lose your mind).

You must be, at least, little scared of me, little man, because you had to resort to the use of ip proxies to hide your actual location, which as you know, we have already established beyond any shadow of a doubt is in Perth, Australia. So, apparently you came into this thread at 8:38 AM and your mate "Baylee", who against all odds, posted only few minutes apart before you, even though >mysteriously< between the hours of 8:38 AM and 9:03 AM the only person in this thread was YOU. :RpS_wink:

We've been laughing out loud on the other forum as we can see you for who you really are. But, regardless of the fact that you use this forum to talk to yourself (mainly) and to express your incredibly ignorant views, and libelous comments about a man who you hardly know, you have indeed provided us with valuable information, only, not in the way you think.

Thanks LittleMan. :RpS_smile:

littleroundman
02-18-2012, 10:53 PM
HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa HaHaHaHaHaHa

What a funny li'l fella you are.

Not only don't I "have a clue who you are" I don't care who you are.

You came into someone elses' house not only DEMANDING answers to your questions but DEMANDING said answers be provided in a way that suits you.

What's more, you then start using the sort of pseudo legal babble usually reserved for use by fraudsters themselves.

The more you post, the greater the amount of nonsense you excrete.

So, you have basic IP tracing skills, whoop-de-doo

Now, drill downand tell me which one of my internet providers' 520,000 subscribers Australia wide I am.

Then tell us all exactly what you intend to do with the information.

The end result will be, Frederick Mann and Just Got Paid will STILL be HYIP ponzi frauds and hundreds, if not thousands of innocents will STILL be defrauded and "MoneyMakingBrain" will be long gone, along with the thousands of other blowhards who have threatened, bluffed and blustered their way through this scam, just as happens with every single one of them.

As for your reference to "libel" I reiterate:

GO AHEAD AND DO IT.

GIVE MY NAME TO fred, FRED, Freddie, Frederick Mann and/or Donald Duck.

I WANT YOU TO.

I AM DELIBERATELY TRYING TO PROVOKE YOU.

I WANT TO GET THIS INTO COURT.

I WANT FREDERICK MANN AND/OR HIS LEGAL REPRESENTATIVES TO FACE THE DISCLOSURE PART OF THE PROCEEDINGS.

The fact that "MoneyMakingBrain" even hints at "libel" or "slander" being in any way possible tells me with 100% certainty that "MoneyMakingBrain" is, in fact a nobody with delusions of grandeur.

Just ANOTHER one of the thousands of wouldbes-if-they-couldbes who bluff and bluster their way 'round the world of HYIP ponzi scams.

littleroundman
02-18-2012, 11:00 PM
You must be, at least, little scared of me, little man, because you had to resort to the use of ip proxies to hide your actual location, which as you know, we have already established beyond any shadow of a doubt is in Perth, Australia. So, apparently you came into this thread at 8:38 AM and your mate "Baylee", who against all odds, posted only few minutes apart before you, even though >mysteriously< between the hours of 8:38 AM and 9:03 AM the only person in this thread was YOU.

Matey,

DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT attempt to use your new found detective skills to try and gain employment.

You are so bad at it, you'll be laughed out of the waiting room of any prospective employer.

Tell, me, oh internet guru, exactly which "proxy" service am I supposed to have used.

As for your theory about me being "Baylee" ...........I won't embarrass you any more than you have embarrassed yourself with your ineptitude

You certainly ARE funny, though, I'll give you that.

okosh
02-18-2012, 11:16 PM
You are not even invisible to me. I already know all of your IP addresses in Perth to track you down on the web. If I choose to, I can find out your real name, but I'm not interested in you. You can do the same of course, but it will lead you to a legitimate organization based in Brooklyn, NYC.


Welcome "(big)Mumu" to real scam...(Yes I worked out who you are)....Things a little quiet over at your house so you thought you'd come trolling here??....

Do carry on as it's always fun to watch as LRM kicks a scumbags arse....

MoneyMakingBrain
02-19-2012, 12:47 AM
which one of my internet providers' 520,000 subscribers Australia wide I am

You are using a Windows computer with a Firefox/10.0.2 browser.

Here are more details:

inetnum: 203.206.0.0 - 203.206.255.255 (I am not writting your exact IP address in order to protect you)
netname: IINET-AU
descr: iiNet Limited
descr: Locked Bag 16
descr: Cloisters Square, WA, 6850
country: AU
admin-c: NO20-AP
tech-c: NO20-AP
remarks: For abuse/UCE issues, please mail abuse@iinet.net.au.
status: ALLOCATED PORTABLE
mnt-by: APNIC-HM
mnt-lower: MAINT-AU-IINET
changed: hostmaster@apnic.net 20010816
changed: hm-changed@apnic.net 20031017
changed: hm-changed@apnic.net 20031208
changed: hm-changed@apnic.net 20040726
source: APNIC

person: Network Operations
nic-hdl: NO20-AP
e-mail: apnic-admin@staff.iinet.net.au
address: iiNet Limited
address: Level 1
address: 502 Hay Street
address: Subiaco WA 6008
phone: +61 8 9214 2222
fax-no: +61 8 9214 2211
country: AU
changed: noc@staff.iinet.net.au 20110328
mnt-by: MAINT-AU-IINET
source: APNIC



Tell, me, oh internet guru, exactly which "proxy" service am I supposed to have used.

65.98.111.155

I hope this helps.

Do something more productive with your time, son. Now if you'd excuse me, I got bigger fish to fry.

littleroundman
02-19-2012, 01:26 AM
You really, really are a silly child, aren't you ???

Does your mummy know what you're doing in your bedroom when she's not looking ??

Here ya go:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/MMB.jpg

SO BLOODY WHAT ???

I swear, every time you open your mouth you make yourself look more clueless.

You know I'm using Firefox.............wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooo, that's scary

AND I'm using Windows........................................dam n, now you've got me petrified.

So, now you know everything about me, what are you gonna do with the information.

I can just imagine the conversation when you slither back under your rock i.e. run back to your HYIP ponzi forum"

"Hey, guys, guess what, littleroundman uses iinet, lives in Perth, and uses Windows and Firefox and I've got him scared"

Like WOW !!

Send for Maxwell Smart. Summons Batman. Call out the National Guard.




Child.

EagleOne
02-19-2012, 02:12 AM
OMG, my sides are still hurting from laughing at the genius moneymakingbrain's posts. Some don't know when to come in out of the rain. The old adage "A fool and his money are soon parted" keeps coming to mind.

Some never learn it is one thing to be thought a fool, and another to open one's mouth and remove all doubt. Talk about a newbie trying to sound intelligent. :RpS_lol:

littleroundman
02-19-2012, 02:36 AM
Here ya go, "MoneyMakingBrain"

we know all about you:

http://www.danasoft.com/vipersig.jpg
http://www.danasoft.com/citysign.jpg

PPBlog
02-19-2012, 10:13 AM
F[r]ed is a an older guy, who's been around the block a few times (done this, done that).

Andy Bowdoin of AdSurfDaily, who advertised half the return rate of Fred and virtually the same commission structure as JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid, was an "older guy" who'd "done this, done that," too. His Ponzi trial is set for September 2012. He faces up to 125 years in federal prison if convicted on all counts of wire fraud, securities fraud and selling unregistered securities.

When the Ponzi trial begins, Bowdoin will be only a few months shy of his 78th birthday. (Ponzi schemer Richard Piccoli was sentenced in 2009 to 20 years when he was 83 years old; Bernard Madoff was 71 when sentenced to 150 years in 2009. Judge Chin, according to the New York Times, described Madoff's crimes as "extraordinarily evil." Part of Madoff's scheme was making people believe the "profits" they received came from something real. In the end, it proved to be the case that Madoff simply created numbers on a screen to fleece the masses.)

Madoff Sentenced to 150 Years in Prison - NYTimes.com (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/30/business/30madoff.html?pagewanted=all)

In the "done this," category, Bowdoin was at the helm of a securities swindle in Alabama in the 1990s. He was charged with felonies, but avoided jail time back then by agreeing to make restitution. Despite his narrow escape, Bowdoin launched ASD. One of his business partners was a man implicated by the SEC in THREE prime-bank swindles. The Feds -- as was the case with Madoff -- said Bowdoin simply created numbers on a screen to swindle the masses.

Meanwhile, in the "done that" category, Bowdoin told ASD members that the seized money belonged to THEM, but he told a federal judge that it belonged to HIM. Also in the "done that" category, Bowdoin stockpiled some cash offshore in an account under a different name, according to the Feds. He also routed "several million" through Canada. (The names of AlertPay and SolidTrustPay both are referenced in the ASD litigation. JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid also uses AP and STP.)

Fred was a pitchman for Bowdoin in 2008. That means, at least in theory, that he could become a target of a clawback lawsuit to return his purported earnings from ASD, meaning that it's possible that Fred could get dragged into the ASD litigation while he's actively running JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid. Beyond that, its is known that the ASD criminal probe is ongoing.

Fred's ad for ASD ran on his BigBooster site, which also promotes JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid. Payments from JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid come from an email address assigned the BigBooster domain. I'd say there is a high probability that funds from ASD are commingled with JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid funds. And the probability is even higher -- virtually 100 percent -- that JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid funds also are commingled with funds from all sorts of scams, including Club Asteria.

Like Fred, Club Asteria's Hank Needham also was a pitchman for ASD. And like JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid, Club Asteria promoters also came under the lens of CONSOB.


I am not concerned about the opinions of the CIA. or the Italian authorities.

To the best of my knowledge the CIA hasn't offered an opinion. CONSOB, however, has ventured that JSS Tripler promoters are conducting an illegal offering of securities. IMHO, that's an opinion you should care about. You are free to dismiss my opinion, of course -- just as you are free not to be concerned about CONSOB's opinion.

BTW, do you know if Fred is helping the JSS Tripler promoters named in the CONSOB action mount a defense? If so, how can they be assured that any money he fronts them is not tainted by fraud proceeds that originated, say, through JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid promoters who set up shop at TalkGold and MoneyMakerGroup -- after earlier using TalkGold and MoneyMakerGroup to flog Club Asteria and CherryShares, which is referenced in a securities action in Canada?

Fred's well is tainted, to be sure. I'd say that any JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid promoter who gets named in an action in ANY jurisdiction or is sued by his/her upline is going to be on their own.


Why is this sustainable? Because there are 'restarts'.

ASD had restarts, too -- i.e., it licensed itself to slow down or restart the Ponzi at a time of its choosing in anticipation of an influx of new funds. In effect, ASD licensed itself to treat liabilities as assets through private accounting tricks -- otherwise known as the Enron problem. Like JSS Tripler/JustBeedPaid, ASD also called it payouts to members "rebates." Like Like JSS Tripler/JustBeedPaid, Club Asteria, CherryShares and many more "programs," ASD also had a presence on the Ponzi boards.


I have done due diligence.

This is good, although it seems to clash with your statement that you're not concerned about what CONSOB thinks. In any event, please share what your due diligence taught you about where Fred/JSSTripler/JustBeenPaid do their banking and the name of their CPA/accounting firm. Also: Please share the names under which they conduct business at the offshore (non-U.S.) processors and the accounts they use to pay for things such as hosting and domain registration. While you're at it, please share the name of their attorney and his/her bar-registration data, along with the registration data with the SEC for offerings and broker-dealers.

If you have time, please explain why certain JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid sites suddenly have gone offline in the United States in the wake of the CONSOB probe -- and why members should not be concerned about that. I'd say that is the minimum information any JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid promoter would need to possess if making claims he/she had performed "due diligence."

Of course, they also might need to explain in some real-world way how Fred can pay returns that are between 48 and 73 times higher annually than the returns Madoff "realized" -- all why explaining why JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid makes members affirm they are not government spies or media lackeys.

As things stand, it looks very much as though JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid is expending an invitation to join an international financial conspiracy. "Due diligence" also might require members to acknowledge that the Legisi HYIP had terms similar to JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid with respect to the affirmations about no government or media involvement -- something the SEC gladly showed a federal judge in Michigan when it went after Legisi in May 2008.

During that same month, the SEC also went after Gold Quest International, which purported it was immune to U.S. law -- i.e., outside the reach of law enforcement -- because it somehow enjoyed sovereignty in Las Vegas (U.S. soil) that somehow had been extended to it via Panama and across multiple U.S. state lines by an "Indian" tribe in North Dakota. Like JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid, GQI also purported to have an attorney. That "attorney" now is in federal prison through Dec. 10, 2018. His name is Michael Howard Reed. It turns out he wasn't really an "attorney."

PPBlog

P.S. The Feds also went after Pathway to Prosperity and Nicolas Smirnow -- and even brought in two experts to explain why the "program" was pure fantasy. The "returns" of P2P are in the same ballpark as JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid. P2P also had a presence on the Ponzi boards, as did Imperia Invest IBC, which the SEC said scammed deaf people by the thousands.

PPBlog
02-19-2012, 10:39 AM
You must be, at least, little scared of me, little man, because you had to resort to the use of ip proxies to hide your actual location, which as you know, we have already established beyond any shadow of a doubt is in Perth, Australia. So, apparently you came into this thread at 8:38 AM and your mate "Baylee", who against all odds, posted only few minutes apart before you, even though >mysteriously< between the hours of 8:38 AM and 9:03 AM the only person in this thread was YOU. :RpS_wink:

It wouldn't be a good HYIP story without an accompanying conspiracy theory juxtaposed against a hint of menacing.


We've been laughing out loud on the other forum as we can see you for who you really are. But, regardless of the fact that you use this forum to talk to yourself (mainly) and to express your incredibly ignorant views, and libelous comments about a man who you hardly know, you have indeed provided us with valuable information, only, not in the way you think.

You sound like a commander in Fred's Army. The masked threat is found in the pronoun "we," which implies people who enjoy strength in numbers somehow can act to harm this forum. And because you and your colleagues at the nameless "other forum" apparently are monitoring this forum -- which you deride as a meaningless forum in which LRM or a small number of people talk to themselves -- the incongruity comes full circle: You are at once claiming not to care about this forum while also announcing your intentions to monitor it.

What you're doing is not unprecedented, of course. In fact, it is an HYIP cliche.

PPBlog

littleroundman
02-19-2012, 10:52 AM
What you're doing is not unprecedented, of course.

PPBlog

Very true.

It's not usually done this clumsily or predictably, though.

littleroundman
02-19-2012, 07:50 PM
Tell, me, oh internet guru, exactly which "proxy" service am I supposed to have used.


65.98.111.155

I hope this helps.

wow, you're clever.....................NOT !!

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/clever.jpg

Man, that is, without doubt, the WORST IP tracking attempt I have EVER seen.

Geez, I hope all the members on your forum don't rely on MoneyMakingBrain for his technical expertise.

God, that's funny.

EagleOne
02-19-2012, 08:55 PM
Now you guys (PPBlog, Okosh, LRM) have done it. You have probably "skeered" off lackofbrains from posting here again showing how real due dilibence is done. He sure was entertaining while he was here though.

MoneyMakingBrain
02-20-2012, 03:34 PM
I don't understand how such intelligent guy like you would risk being identified posting on a forum that's being administrated by this obnoxious "LRM" admin. But Anyway, your information is the first I've read in this thread (I admit to not reading every single post) that I consider worthy of anyone's consideration. So, I gather for what you're saying that Fred is doomed because of this upcoming claw-back lawsuit you feel is coming to him, etc, etc (not going to argue each one of your points).

Can you show WHO is filing this lawsuit? You can't, can you? Let's say for argument's sake as you say it will be; the kind of evidence "they" (?) will exhibit in court will be fought by Fred's lawyers point by point, and you can bank on that. It will be a long and drawn out court case that may take years and by then, most people would have made fortunes and the case will be either won by the Plantiff (whoever that may be) or, be regarded as a BIG farce. No jail term for Fred. Happy investors make up for a successful money marketing company and success story. That's in the positive side, of course. But, if you're right on your contention that Fred is sort of like Dark Vader incarnate, coming to destroy the financial world with his henchman, Carl P. then, yes, it's gonna hurt bad and lots of people are going to commit suicide. I grant you that.


It would be interesting to take a peek at those court documents when they arrive though. Whatever the case maybe "PPblog" (Patrick?) forums and blogs need to be exhibiting moderation, especially when we are discussing the lives of other human beings anonymously and so irresponsibly. This way people can really make a determination about the real reasons why Fred chose to be involved in (or concocted) JBP.

And, since you seem to have so many interesting insights, tell us why Carl P. (number one) hasn't been already sued by the SEC? Why hasn't he been arrested by the Feds, SS, Portland PD, etc? If you can explain to me why he's allowed to walk on any US city streets as a free man, then I may take a further look into all this even some retaliatory measures (like shut down all his sites to prevent more fools from being robbed) because, whether I am reporting, or investing --messing or playing-- with the "MoneyMakingBrain" has severe [online] consequences. So far, he seems to be sincere and committed in what he is doing, and appears to be a "nice" guy.

Being that said, IMO, these are the main three questions to all of this: a, is Fred doing JBP out of desperation, or b, has he finally gone insane, or c, has he seen the light at the twilight of his live?

I may even add, is he trying to play a hero or a criminal? Don't forget the paradox of Batman and the other anti-heroes. I doubt that's how he wants to be remembered.

So, regardless of your good intentions to warn people from this alleged scam, what you've said so far still falls in the category of "speculation", no different of what I got to add here. The fact that you hide your identity just like me, indicates that you're not willing to risk your "professional" online reputation. Ironically, that would have given more credibility and wight into what you're saying.

Conversely, by accusing me of being a "Commander" in Fred's army, which I'm honestly NOT, weakens a little your position (IMO). So, two points of view by 2 anonymous users amount to almost nothing and only helps the administrator of this joke of a forum (Realscam.com) to create content, and I am not interested in doing that. This reply of mine to you, has already been posted in the other forum, so you're only reading a recoil post, i.e. it's old news.

Take as an example another big assertion by this "littleman", who was saying in previous posts that I was in connection with one of the JBP forums. Ridiculous! When I said "WE", I meant, the members of another forum (unrelated to JBP) and the IP detectors working on the internet with me to find out precise locations of the JBP online chatter. I didn't have to volunteer that information either. You should appreciate the fact that I came back and I'm being honest by disclosing the "WE" part, instead of looking for a new angle to attack users (not you).

Yes, I have a friend's forum to continue asking the "right" questions about this JBP controversy and I don't need to be here, so, you can count on two things: one, I am not coming back again, and two, you will read more irrational thinking and designed to make me look like a teenage fool by the one and only "Littleroundman".

For example, he is so "smart" that he believes wholeheartedly that I have invested money in JBP. But, I've never ever said that. I've seen how he bites new comers when they don't agree with him. I already stated why I don't respect this contentious administrator: He is a sock-puppeteer (that should be enough) in violation of his own terns and conditions, and he knows that. But, of course he will deny that. But those are facts, not speculation. I already posted the evidence that suggests I have access to information no one else, except admins have, and he was ill prepared for the MoneyMakingBrain. How would you otherwise, be able to read someone's IP address from a remote machine, disclosing one's precise location? I am sure, if you are as smart as you appear to be, that you have at least asked yourself the same question.

Enough of LRM, moving on, and forgive me for saying this, but I find it disgusting when people talk about others (regardless of the nature of the crime) without any proof of guilt other than "he was involved with [fill name], or he will be charged for [fill in crime] etc, I am not really interested in anonymous members' opinions, but facts with links to reputable web sites. Not "facts" from sites whose editorial content is the laughing stock of the web.

Bottom line and YES, it should make anybody nervous the knowledge that Fred has been engaged in a Ponzi scheme in the past. That's troubling indeed. It is troubling that the JBP people have resorted to the use of Oprah Winfrey's and Charlie Sheen's face and likeness constituting a possible infringement (we don't have all the details yet) which can land them in court and then be fined.

Regardless, what you have against JPB is only a risk assessment based on past performance (in this case, Fred's).

Besides of what I asked you about Carl, here is what I really want to know from Fred:

I want to know if the old man has already bought the farm and people are looking at old videos (search Google) or, if he's skipped town and already is in hiding. I am way ahead of you PP. I'll give you a hint: he is no longer in the country which he is supposed to be (ZA). That doesn't mean that he can't be on vacations, but if that's the case, then his own people are not even aware of that.

Take care "PPBlog", and like I said, I got bigger fish to fry.

MMB


Andy Bowdoin of AdSurfDaily, who advertised half the return rate of Fred and virtually the same commission structure as JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid, was an "older guy" who'd "done this, done that," too. His Ponzi trial is set for September 2012. He faces up to 125 years in federal prison if convicted on all counts of wire fraud, securities fraud and selling unregistered securities.

When the Ponzi trial begins, Bowdoin will be only a few months shy of his 78th birthday. (Ponzi schemer Richard Piccoli was sentenced in 2009 to 20 years when he was 83 years old; Bernard Madoff was 71 when sentenced to 150 years in 2009. Judge Chin, according to the New York Times, described Madoff's crimes as "extraordinarily evil." Part of Madoff's scheme was making people believe the "profits" they received came from something real. In the end, it proved to be the case that Madoff simply created numbers on a screen to fleece the masses.)

Madoff Sentenced to 150 Years in Prison - NYTimes.com (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/30/business/30madoff.html?pagewanted=all)

In the "done this," category, Bowdoin was at the helm of a securities swindle in Alabama in the 1990s. He was charged with felonies, but avoided jail time back then by agreeing to make restitution. Despite his narrow escape, Bowdoin launched ASD. One of his business partners was a man implicated by the SEC in THREE prime-bank swindles. The Feds -- as was the case with Madoff -- said Bowdoin simply created numbers on a screen to swindle the masses.

Meanwhile, in the "done that" category, Bowdoin told ASD members that the seized money belonged to THEM, but he told a federal judge that it belonged to HIM. Also in the "done that" category, Bowdoin stockpiled some cash offshore in an account under a different name, according to the Feds. He also routed "several million" through Canada. (The names of AlertPay and SolidTrustPay both are referenced in the ASD litigation. JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid also uses AP and STP.)

Fred was a pitchman for Bowdoin in 2008. That means, at least in theory, that he could become a target of a clawback lawsuit to return his purported earnings from ASD, meaning that it's possible that Fred could get dragged into the ASD litigation while he's actively running JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid. Beyond that, its is known that the ASD criminal probe is ongoing.

Fred's ad for ASD ran on his BigBooster site, which also promotes JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid. Payments from JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid come from an email address assigned the BigBooster domain. I'd say there is a high probability that funds from ASD are commingled with JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid funds. And the probability is even higher -- virtually 100 percent -- that JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid funds also are commingled with funds from all sorts of scams, including Club Asteria.

Like Fred, Club Asteria's Hank Needham also was a pitchman for ASD. And like JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid, Club Asteria promoters also came under the lens of CONSOB.



To the best of my knowledge the CIA hasn't offered an opinion. CONSOB, however, has ventured that JSS Tripler promoters are conducting an illegal offering of securities. IMHO, that's an opinion you should care about. You are free to dismiss my opinion, of course -- just as you are free not to be concerned about CONSOB's opinion.

BTW, do you know if Fred is helping the JSS Tripler promoters named in the CONSOB action mount a defense? If so, how can they be assured that any money he fronts them is not tainted by fraud proceeds that originated, say, through JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid promoters who set up shop at TalkGold and MoneyMakerGroup -- after earlier using TalkGold and MoneyMakerGroup to flog Club Asteria and CherryShares, which is referenced in a securities action in Canada?

Fred's well is tainted, to be sure. I'd say that any JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid promoter who gets named in an action in ANY jurisdiction or is sued by his/her upline is going to be on their own.



ASD had restarts, too -- i.e., it licensed itself to slow down or restart the Ponzi at a time of its choosing in anticipation of an influx of new funds. In effect, ASD licensed itself to treat liabilities as assets through private accounting tricks -- otherwise known as the Enron problem. Like JSS Tripler/JustBeedPaid, ASD also called it payouts to members "rebates." Like Like JSS Tripler/JustBeedPaid, Club Asteria, CherryShares and many more "programs," ASD also had a presence on the Ponzi boards.



This is good, although it seems to clash with your statement that you're not concerned about what CONSOB thinks. In any event, please share what your due diligence taught you about where Fred/JSSTripler/JustBeenPaid do their banking and the name of their CPA/accounting firm. Also: Please share the names under which they conduct business at the offshore (non-U.S.) processors and the accounts they use to pay for things such as hosting and domain registration. While you're at it, please share the name of their attorney and his/her bar-registration data, along with the registration data with the SEC for offerings and broker-dealers.

If you have time, please explain why certain JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid sites suddenly have gone offline in the United States in the wake of the CONSOB probe -- and why members should not be concerned about that. I'd say that is the minimum information any JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid promoter would need to possess if making claims he/she had performed "due diligence."

Of course, they also might need to explain in some real-world way how Fred can pay returns that are between 48 and 73 times higher annually than the returns Madoff "realized" -- all why explaining why JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid makes members affirm they are not government spies or media lackeys.

As things stand, it looks very much as though JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid is expending an invitation to join an international financial conspiracy. "Due diligence" also might require members to acknowledge that the Legisi HYIP had terms similar to JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid with respect to the affirmations about no government or media involvement -- something the SEC gladly showed a federal judge in Michigan when it went after Legisi in May 2008.

During that same month, the SEC also went after Gold Quest International, which purported it was immune to U.S. law -- i.e., outside the reach of law enforcement -- because it somehow enjoyed sovereignty in Las Vegas (U.S. soil) that somehow had been extended to it via Panama and across multiple U.S. state lines by an "Indian" tribe in North Dakota. Like JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid, GQI also purported to have an attorney. That "attorney" now is in federal prison through Dec. 10, 2018. His name is Michael Howard Reed. It turns out he wasn't really an "attorney."

PPBlog

P.S. The Feds also went after Pathway to Prosperity and Nicolas Smirnow -- and even brought in two experts to explain why the "program" was pure fantasy. The "returns" of P2P are in the same ballpark as JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid. P2P also had a presence on the Ponzi boards, as did Imperia Invest IBC, which the SEC said scammed deaf people by the thousands.

Eddie Haskell
02-20-2012, 06:16 PM
After your clock is cleaned you are clearly grasping. Please answer the PPB questions of Due diligence or shut the f up. You have been owned here and are a fool.

baylee
02-20-2012, 06:54 PM
After your clock is cleaned you are clearly grasping. Please answer the PPB questions of Due diligence or shut the f up. You have been owned here and are a fool.

Careful Eddie, he might think you are LRM in disguise!!!! Whatever he's selling I am not buying.

littleroundman
02-20-2012, 07:51 PM
Law enforcement officers must tear their hair out in frustration when they encounter the kind of stubborn obstinance displayed by some members of the community.

I guess the only way to deal with that kind of attitude is to totally ignore it and, like the parents of a defiant teenager, let them go through what they're inevitably going to experience.

"I'm not gonna believe ya 'cos I don't like your attitude" always works.

"I DEMAND you not only tell me what I want to know, I DEMAND you do it the way I want it done" is a goody.

okosh
02-20-2012, 10:39 PM
Here ya go, "MoneyMakingBrain"

we know all about you:

http://www.danasoft.com/vipersig.jpg
http://www.danasoft.com/citysign.jpg

Well that works a treat....Last night it showed me being in Sydney and today it shows me as being in Adelaide...
Any chance I could be in the Northern Teritory next as I've never been to the rock and I'd love to see it??

Thanks in advance :RpS_wink:

littleroundman
02-20-2012, 11:38 PM
That's the whole point.

I.P. tracing means SFA in the grand scheme of things.

It may frighten new users that someone claims to have the "power" but otherwise means nothing, in terms of identifying anything other than their VERY general location.

That widget I posted is a prime example.

All it does is mirror the information on the viewers own computer. No one else can see it.

But, it sure as h**l scares the bejeesus out of newbies.

AND, in Australia, at least, the top 3 providers will return different identification results, depending on how they've routed/rerouted their traffic AND which backbone they're using at any given time.

Good for putting the frighteners on beginners, but not much use for anything else.

PPBlog
02-21-2012, 07:32 AM
Yes, these things are troubling -- and are present in fraud scheme after fraud scheme after fraud scheme. Club Asteria used the actor Will Smith and also sought to tie itself to the American Red Cross, Richard Branson and Mahatma Gandhi, the slain Indian champion of freedom.

JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid also has used an image of Warren Buffett and TV spaceman "Mr. Spock."

Of course, Club Asteria and JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid have other things in common: CONSOB and the Ponzi boards.

The HYIP sphere, I believe, is dominated by steroidal puppeteers who stay in the shadows and let the Stepfordian MLM hucksters do their bidding for them. It is dangerous beyond measure, which is one of the reasons why the "I got paid" posts are sickening.

PPBlog

PPBlog
02-21-2012, 08:51 AM
And, since you seem to have so many interesting insights, tell us why Carl P. (number one) hasn't been already sued by the SEC? Why hasn't he been arrested by the Feds, SS, Portland PD, etc?

I do not know the answer to this question. Nor do I know that "Carl P" is number one. What I do know is that serial scammers have applied this brand of faulty logic to scheme after scheme after scheme: Here's the shorthand hucksters apply to fleece the masses by using wordplay to turn logic on its ear: If anything untoward was occurring, the FEDs/SEC/CFTC already would have shut it down.

This "logic" was present in the ASD case prior to the seizure, along with elements of menacing and specific threats to bring the "hammer" down on "people that need it." It is duly noted in one of the government's ASD exhibits.

You've claimed you've performed "due diligence." Accepting what you say as true, then surely you know that "opportunities" often are under investigation before the participants know. That was the case with ASD and Legisi, for just two examples.

It also was the case with the Alpha Trade Group probe. (Alpha Trade Group, BTW, was promoted on TalkGold and MoneyMakerGroup -- just like ASD and JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid, Legisi, Finanzas Forex, Pathway To Prosperity, CherryShares, Imperia Invest IBC and other cases that sparked government actions. It is not unusual for a "program" to be under investigation and for the government to stay silent until it is ready to act.

Here is the Alpha Trade Group example:

KABOOM! Feds Release Info On ‘Alpha Trade Group’ Forex Scheme With Ties To Mexico, Panama; Records Suggest Scheme Was Collapsing Even Prior To Promos On TalkGold, MoneyMakerGroup Forums (http://www.patrickpretty.com/2010/08/23/kaboom-feds-release-info-on-alpha-trade-group-forex-scheme-with-ties-to-mexico-panama-records-suggest-scheme-was-collapsing-even-prior-to-promos-on-talkgold-moneymakergroup-forums/)


If you can explain to me why he's allowed to walk on any US city streets as a free man, then I may take a further look into all this even some retaliatory measures (like shut down all his sites to prevent more fools from being robbed) because, whether I am reporting, or investing --messing or playing-- with the "MoneyMakingBrain" has severe [online] consequences.

Again with the menacing. Charles Bronson as "Paul Benjamin" couldn't have said it better in the "Death Wish" movie series.

What are you saying? That you're an avenger of some sort, a DDoSer perhaps? That for now, at least, you're giving Fred/Carl and the "program" the benefit of the doubt -- but will take down the site if you ultimately conclude a scam is under way?

I do not know what's in your heart, but I do know my Blog has been targeted by DDoS attacks and crippled for days at a time. In April 2011, I received a claim of responsibility purportedly from an HYIP enforcer and reported the data to law enforcement. DDoS attacks are warfare, IMHO. I sincerely hope you aren't among the group of people who seem to believe that such as thing as a "good DDoS attack" exists and that you aren't a DDoSer.


So, two points of view by 2 anonymous users amount to almost nothing and only helps the administrator of this joke of a forum (Realscam.com) to create content, and I am not interested in doing that. This reply of mine to you, has already been posted in the other forum, so you're only reading a recoil post, i.e. it's old news.

Even if your assertion that this forum is a "joke" somehow could be proven true, it does not change the fact that your arguments contain both ad hominems and elements of menacing. Those two things are present constantly in the HYIP sphere. They are utterly predictable, and surface in discussion after discussion.

How much of this forum have you read? You've acknowledged you haven't even read all the posts in this thread -- and yet right away concluded the forum is a joke. I believe the world needs more forums such as RealScam, not fewer -- especially since mass-marketing fraud is a global problem and threat to both established and developing nations. Law enforcement now is counting victims of certain specific schemes by the tens of thousands and the combined losses by the hundreds of millions of dollars -- in the Age of Terrorism. Vast sums of money go missing down ratholes.

The criminals have the ability to tap into payment sources at the local, regional, state, national and international levels - and that creates an untenable security condition.


Bottom line and YES, it should make anybody nervous the knowledge that Fred has been engaged in a Ponzi scheme in the past. That's troubling indeed. It is troubling that the JBP people have resorted to the use of Oprah Winfrey's and Charlie Sheen's face and likeness constituting a possible infringement (we don't have all the details yet) which can land them in court and then be fined.

Yes, these things are troubling -- and are present in fraud scheme after fraud scheme after fraud scheme. Club Asteria used the actor Will Smith and also sought to tie itself to Richard Branson and Mahatma Gandhi, the slain Indian civil-rights champion.

JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid also has used an image of Warren Buffet and even TV spaceman "Mr. Spock." Scammers often are culturally literate. Cultural literacy "works" to separate people from their money, as do religion and appeals to biases such as antigovernment views.

PPBlog

littleroundman
02-21-2012, 09:31 AM
Unfortunately, by his own actions Mr MoneyMakingBrain has exposed the fact he is either a internet blowhard and/or he's one of the puppets.

If anyone were interested enough to read back over his posts, it would become immediately apparent he has, in fact, spoken about everything BUT the elephant in the room.

What's more, he's punctuated his posts with a good deal of bluff and bluster, along with a decent sized helping of bullying.

"Elephant in the room" ???

Simple, forget all the huffing and puffing, all the bluff, bluster and bullying, all the talk of technical expertise, internet etiquette and the rights and responsibilities of posters on forums and instead ask, "where's the money coming from ??"

Name one, single, solitary non HYIP ponzi business in the history of the planet able to offer the same "rate of return" being claimed by JustBeenPaid and its' pimps.

Just one.

Not only a high rate of return, BUT the ability to offer it repeatedly over an extended period of time to so many members.

In the words of a prominent internet lawyer: "There are many high yield INVESTMENTS, there are NO high yield investment PROGRAMS.

IOW, there are simply no legitimate businesses which can offer the payouts being offered by JustBeenPaid on a sustained basis, month after month.

Not in the real world, anyway.

EagleOne
02-21-2012, 03:31 PM
I don't get who he thinks he was going to impress with his posts. Obviously he has no clue who any of us are, and how long all of us have been involved with this industry. It is also obvious that he was quite pleased with himself in his posts as if we were going to be bowled over with his "knowlege." He did get one thing right. He is full of himself.

littleroundman
02-27-2012, 11:35 PM
You have simply GOT to go over to Patrick Prettys' blog (http://www.patrickpretty.com/2012/02/25/willful-blindness-with-legisi-operator-now-convicted-of-wire-fraud-hyip-colleague-and-fellow-ponzi-forum-darling-nicholas-smirnow-of-pathway-to-prosperity-listed-as-wanted-by-interpol-meanwhile/comment-page-1/#comment-22629) and read our erstwhile friend, MoneyMakingBrains' latest (successful) attempt at making a complete and utter fool of himself.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/goodlord.jpg

If I were "Frederick Mann" I'd be packing my bags and making a run for somewhere with no US extradition treaty right about now.

With friends like "MoneyMaking Brain" young Freddy Mann DEFINITELY doesn't need enemies.

There he was, quietly running his HYIP ponzi game and keeping nicely under the radar, when along comes MMB and not only throws the spotlight directly on JustBeenPaid, but tugs on the law tigers' tail while he's at it.

Hi ho, hi ho, it's off to court Fred goes.

laidback
02-28-2012, 11:09 AM
LOL, MonkeyBrain makes the plea not to insult his intelligence, which seems impossible because he has none...! LRM I thank you for suggesting I go over to PP's site to endure his mindless drivel. The more I see of him, the more thankful I am that I'm me...!

littleroundman
02-28-2012, 11:37 AM
I can't recall anyone ever getting so many basic facts wrong while defending a HYIP, ever.

How on earth anyone in his mysterious "group" thinks he's anything more than a blowhard loudmouth is beyond me.

As for where he got the idea I'm Lynne or I use a proxy, Goodness knows.

Strange, strange character.

laidback
02-28-2012, 01:04 PM
I can't recall anyone ever getting so many basic facts wrong while defending a HYIP, ever.

How on earth anyone in his mysterious "group" thinks he's anything more than a blowhard loudmouth is beyond me.

As for where he got the idea I'm Lynne or I use a proxy, Goodness knows.

Strange, strange character.
Let me see... where have we seen the "you have posted within x minutes of so and so, therefore you are so and so" argument? The logic is so blatantly flawed as to be ludicrous, as are all of his claims, boasts, threats ad nauseum...!MoneyMakingBrain? Hardly! MoronicMonkeyBrain is more like it.

littleroundman
02-28-2012, 07:29 PM
Brains' biggest problem is he can't back down now without having to face the ego driven trollers' two biggest nightmares - losing face and having his/her lack of understanding of the subjects under discussion exposed for all to see.

Now he HAS to keep pretending he knows what he's talking about, leading to his postings becoming more and more nonsensical.

Witness: "2% daily interest is possible"

It probably won't stop until he eventually slinks away with his tail between his legs, never to be heard of again.

As for 'fessing up to his mistakes, apologizing or admitting he is wrong:

http://www.gifs.net/Animation11/Animals/Pigs/Pig_flies_2.gif

EagleOne
02-29-2012, 12:58 AM
Well at least he said it was only a matter of minutes unlike somewhere else where they claimed it was within 90 minutes. :RpS_lol: :RpS_lol: But what is truly funny is how he claims he is :watching_you: all of us! I'm :scared_1: :RpS_lol::RpS_lol:

By the way, now that I am the owner of this site (MMB said so), I want all of you to shape up. You all have been getting a little lax in your postings, and your investigative skills are nowhere up the level of MMB"s. So unless you can arise to his level of investigative work, I'm going to have to put all of you on detention. :whip:

littleroundman
02-29-2012, 01:39 AM
By the way, now that I am the owner of this site (MMB said so), I want all of you to shape up.

We'll do a deal with ya, boss.

We promise to shape up if you promise to provide paper in the toilets and stop deducting our wages for the tea and coffee.

Deal ???

EagleOne
02-29-2012, 03:34 AM
Is that whipping supposed to be a threat or a promise ???

Both.

By the way, do you know the difference between a masochist and a sadist? It is the difference between the whipee and the whipor. Just make sure you know which is which before the beatings begin.

EagleOne
02-29-2012, 03:49 AM
We'll do a deal with ya, boss.

We promise to shape up if you promise to provide paper in the toilets and stop deducting our wages for the tea and coffee.

Deal ???

Complain, Complain, Complain. Keep up with the whining and I'll take away the cheese.

Sheesh, I put a tall stack of newspapers in the toilets a week ago. You mean you are out already? OK, I'll stop deducting for the coffee and tea, but the charges still stand for the sugar and cream. It is tough being the boss. Decisions, decisions, decisions.

oldgranny
02-29-2012, 01:46 PM
Well at least he said it was only a matter of minutes unlike somewhere else where they claimed it was within 90 minutes. :RpS_lol: :RpS_lol: But what is truly funny is how he claims he is :watching_you: all of us! I'm :scared_1: :RpS_lol::RpS_lol:

By the way, now that I am the owner of this site (MMB said so), I want all of you to shape up. You all have been getting a little lax in your postings, and your investigative skills are nowhere up the level of MMB"s. So unless you can arise to his level of investigative work, I'm going to have to put all of you on detention. :whip:

But Eagle, I just got out of detention and now you are sending me back!!:RpS_ohmy: After reading this thing for days now, there is no way I could ever get to the level of brilliance defined by MMG!!!

BTW if you are going to be boss, newspaper don't get it!!!!

Thanks for the laughs fellows, it's been better than watching the Walmart videos!!

okosh
02-29-2012, 09:39 PM
Sheesh, I put a tall stack of newspapers in the toilets a week ago.

And the week b4 that we had to use our shirts.....

littleroundman
02-29-2012, 09:53 PM
I gotta tell ya,

MoneyMakingBrains' accusations are so insistent, he's had me looking in the mirror 4 or 5 times a day, just to make sure I haven't somehow transmogrified into Lynne when I wasn't looking.

Every morning I have to go outside and make sure I haven't done a Wizard of Oz and touched down in Kansas.

EagleOne
03-01-2012, 01:58 AM
I gotta tell ya,

MoneyMakingBrains' accusations are so insistent, he's had me looking in the mirror 4 or 5 times a day, just to make sure I haven't somehow transmogrified into Lynne when I wasn't looking.

Every morning I have to go outside and make sure I haven't done a Wizard of Oz and touched down in Kansas.

You think you've got it hard. That's nothing. I have to keep remembering if I am you, Baylee, Laidback, Whip, or Lynn. I am just shocked he didn't toss in Okosh, Brutus and SoapBoxMom too! And let's not forget that he was thinking that I might be Patrick too! Maybe that would have happened in the next post, if he had been given the chance. It is hard to keep all my persona's straight. :RpS_lol: :RpS_lol:

This is one sick dude who needs help. But at least he had Ann riding in to the rescue since he couldn't handle all of us by himself.

I really hope he does go to the authorities and files a complaint. We could help put him out of his misery. What is truly scary is he votes.

littleroundman
03-01-2012, 02:11 AM
What is truly scary is he votes.

He can vote in America ???

Does he have to be accompanied by a responsible adult ??

Australians can't vote in elections until they're 18.

His reasoning and lack of deductive skills really are funny.

And I don't mean like "funny haha" I mean like "funny peculiar"

MoneyMakingBrain
03-01-2012, 08:31 AM
"Folks", I came back one more time to tell you that the fun can now continue here:

Creating Content Out of Thin Air: More 'Conspiracy Theories': Lynn is not "EaglelOne" at RealScam.com (http://moneymakinbrain.blogspot.com/2012/03/more-conspiracy-theories-lynn-is-not.html)

Make sure to post with your proxy ip's...Millions will read all about it on another forum :)

I guess the only thing you guy's got right is that, IF i wanted to screw Fred up and uncover his alleged scam, then I have done a brilliant job at it.

Well, I went beyond all that:

Creating Content Out of Thin Air: February 2012 (http://moneymakinbrain.blogspot.com/2012_02_01_archive.html)

Furthermore, the MMB learns from pro's like you, and uses your deep knowledge in content creation while exposing the truth to the hungry masses:

Creating Content Out of Thin Air: Lynndel “Lynn” Edgington aka "LittleRoundMan" of RealScam.com (http://moneymakinbrain.blogspot.com/2012/03/lynndel-lynn-edgington-aka.html)

Yes, the MoneyMakingBrain is a fair man, and makes this information available for free. However, if you really wanna read the juicy stuff, you know, the stuff that keeps you glued to your computer monitor (while giving you great money making tips), you need to pay to subscribe. Boo. LOL!

MMB


I gotta tell ya,

MoneyMakingBrains' accusations are so insistent, he's had me looking in the mirror 4 or 5 times a day, just to make sure I haven't somehow transmogrified into Lynne when I wasn't looking.

Every morning I have to go outside and make sure I haven't done a Wizard of Oz and touched down in Kansas.

You think you've got it hard. That's nothing. I have to keep remembering if I am you, Baylee, Laidback, Whip, or Lynn. I am just shocked he didn't toss in Okosh, Brutus and SoapBoxMom too! And let's not forget that he was thinking that I might be Patrick too! Maybe that would have happened in the next post, if he had been given the chance. It is hard to keep all my persona's straight. :RpS_lol: :RpS_lol:

This is one sick dude who needs help. But at least he had Ann riding in to the rescue since he couldn't handle all of us by himself.

I really hope he does go to the authorities and files a complaint. We could help put him out of his misery. What is truly scary is he votes.

ProfHenryHiggins
03-01-2012, 08:59 AM
Pay to subscribe where, MMB? I don't see a link, email address, or other means to contact you outside of making a comment on your own blog.
That generally is a requirement for communication, you know.

MoneyMakingBrain
03-01-2012, 09:36 AM
Pay to subscribe where, MMB? I don't see a link, email address, or other means to contact you outside of making a comment on your own blog.
That generally is a requirement for communication, you know.

"Professor" you must be sillier than you appear by the way you post. Why would I want you to join my list of subscribers? And I'm gonna tell you what should be generally a "requirement for communication": getting the information you publish verified by the facts, not speculation.

Patrick Hernan has been making gross mistakes for a while, it seems, but he made a big one by printing that I the MoneyMakingBrain, am advocating for JSS Triplers. That's what I call, conniving and irresponsible reporting. He must be desperate for content. So much talent with the pen wasted on conspiracy theories and unsupported reports.

Anyway, if you want my email address ask Lynn or Patrick, they go it.

MMB

scratchycat
03-01-2012, 09:37 AM
Little ole SC here folks been reading this for days and decided to go see what MMB was talking about. Looks to be a trap of sorts, my computer hung up and I had to disconnect from internet and reboot. He must be up to 'tricks' and the links are there to lure you in, it should have been easy to get my IP address but I would caution the rest of you to be more careful. You know about cats and curosity... Personally, I think MMB is full of hot air but sending computer viruses or trying to access someone's pc is I believe against the legal system...

Just wanted you to know what just happened with me.

ProfHenryHiggins
03-01-2012, 09:43 AM
"Professor" you must be sillier than you appear by the way you post. Why would I want you to join my list of subscribers? And I'm gonna tell you what should be generally a "requirement for communication": getting the information you publish verified by the facts, not speculation.

Patrick Hernan has been making gross mistakes for a while, it seems, but he made a big one by printing that I the MoneyMakingBrain, am advocating for JSS Triplers. That's what I call, conniving and irresponsible reporting. He must be desperate for content. So much talent with the pen wasted on conspiracy theories and unsupported reports.

Anyway, if you want my email address ask Lynn or Patrick, they go it.

MMB


Should I pester you from the contact page at simplecelebrity.net, than, staycoolmen2006?

littleroundman
03-01-2012, 09:50 AM
How on earth one person can get so many things wrong is simply amazing, AND, what's worse, his theories are becoming more and more bizarre.

To think, MoneyMakingBrain is out there somewhere walking around is scary.

I can't wait until he posts again, so I can find out who I'm going to be tomorrow.

MoneyMakingBrain
03-01-2012, 09:58 AM
Little ole SC here folks been reading this for days and decided to go see what MMB was talking about. Looks to be a trap of sorts, my computer hung up and I had to disconnect from internet and reboot. He must be up to 'tricks' and the links are there to lure you in, it should have been easy to get my IP address but I would caution the rest of you to be more careful. You know about cats and curosity... Personally, I think MMB is full of hot air but sending computer viruses or trying to access someone's pc is I believe against the legal system...

Just wanted you to know what just happened with me.

You're paranoid, Mr. Cat. The MMB doesn't send malaware viruses or Trojan horses. The MMB is a crime fighter not a petty criminal, or a white collar criminal (especially one that hides behind a computer). The MMB is here to protect you from injustice, such the case of poor good ole devil, Fred Mann.

There were 3 before you (by the way, soap, love your FDCservers.net proxy, I once used them too :) and none of them reported your problem, which means you just got too much crap processing in your computer. So, clean it up! ;)

MMB

MoneyMakingBrain
03-01-2012, 10:10 AM
How on earth one person can get so many things wrong is simply amazing, AND, what's worse, his theories are becoming more and more bizarre.

To think, MoneyMakingBrain is out there somewhere walking around is scary.

I can't wait until he posts again, so I can find out who I'm going to be tomorrow.

is that so?
So, explain to the three users here on your BIG forum, Mr. "LittleRoundMan", how is it that EagleOne, knew that I have told Patrick that user "laidback" (another of your funny but unimaginative creations) is also another sock puppet of yours?

Are you reading my factual reporting or not?
Creating Content Out of Thin Air: More 'Conspiracy Theories': Lynn is not "EaglelOne" at RealScam.com (http://moneymakinbrain.blogspot.com/2012/03/more-conspiracy-theories-lynn-is-not.html)

MMB

scratchycat
03-01-2012, 10:55 AM
How on earth one person can get so many things wrong is simply amazing, AND, what's worse, his theories are becoming more and more bizarre.

To think, MoneyMakingBrain is out there somewhere walking around is scary.

I can't wait until he posts again, so I can find out who I'm going to be tomorrow.

Could it be... Oh NO!!! Not a cat!!! Now I am paranoid :scared_1:

laidback
03-01-2012, 11:37 AM
is that so?
So, explain to the three users here on your BIG forum, Mr. "LittleRoundMan", how is it that EagleOne, knew that I have told Patrick that user "laidback" (another of your funny but unimaginative creations) is also another sock puppet of yours?

Are you reading my factual reporting or not?
Creating Content Out of Thin Air: More 'Conspiracy Theories': Lynn is not "EaglelOne" at RealScam.com (http://moneymakinbrain.blogspot.com/2012/03/more-conspiracy-theories-lynn-is-not.html)

MMB
Rather impossible, since you have no 'FACTUAL' report to read...! Just a bunch of BS and bluster...!

MoneyMakingBrain
03-01-2012, 11:53 AM
Rather impossible, since you have no 'FACTUAL' report to read...! Just a bunch of BS and bluster...!

Bhaa-ha,ha

Did you just metamorphosed into "laidback" just now... and should l call you "littleruinedman", this time? How would you know that, since the last user who read my "Conspiracy" blog (see link above) viewed it at exactly 7:12AM (West Coast Time, some 2 hours ago) and you supposedly just got here? LOL!

MMB

ProfHenryHiggins
03-01-2012, 12:01 PM
So how's the weather out there in Bhilwara, MMB? Or have you moved to a new place since than, Mr. Nenawati?

MoneyMakingBrain
03-01-2012, 12:04 PM
Oh, and do not fool yourselves thinking that I am giving the "littleruinedman" free content because everything gets reported, redacted, copied, pasted, yadi yada, and published on the REAL blog, the one with the "juicy" stuff, that is....

Here is another revelation for your fools. Mr. Patrick Hernan visited these pages at 8:10 am WCT with his usual 67.172.XX.XX, but he didn't have the guts to click on the links (or didn't he really, I wonder why?).

The MMB loves creating content out of thin air like this nervous, fear-monger, "PatrickPretty". ;)

ProfHenryHiggins
03-01-2012, 12:12 PM
Would that be "juicy" like your titillating photos of female flesh at bollyhotpics.com and simplecelebrity.net, Sanyam a.k.a. MoneyMakingBrain?

Or "juicy" as in the pirated movies you provide to viewers from your freemoviesglobe.com website?

And no, I didn't ask either Lynn or Patrick for your email address. I found samyjain2010@gmail.com all on my own via search engines and a bit of research.

MoneyMakingBrain
03-01-2012, 12:34 PM
So how's the weather out there in Bhilwara, MMB? Or have you moved to a new place since than, Mr. Nenawati?

One thing is being an egregious sock puppeteer and another is being a dumb one. The more you open up your mouth, the more you stick your foot in it, Sir. Naturally "Professor Higgins" is an admin, duh? and he can see IP's on his forum. I just wonder who that admin would be! Anyway, Mr. Nutty "Professor", as Patrick said before he decided to stop having a 'civilized' discussion with me: I can travel across the pond faster than Phil Collins on board a Concorde on his way to a concert at Wimblington stadium :)

MMB

ProfHenryHiggins
03-01-2012, 01:45 PM
No, I'm not an admin. Not here, not on Quatloos, not on scam.com.

I know how to research. Is that so hard to believe, man most mortal?

EagleOne
03-01-2012, 05:59 PM
This has been a very educational day for me. I have now learned by that great investigator MMB that I am not me. Funny, I could have sworn when I looked in the mirror that I was me. But not so says the brilliant MMB. So now that I know I am not really me, but 3, count them 3 persona's all rolled into one, with a possible 4th lurking in the background, I can't wait to hear who I am later today or tomorrow. My wife is also wondering just who I am too. But she loves it because she says it means she gets to be with a different man every day. Not sure I like her meaning there, but when I am 3 people in one, I guess that might be a compliment since I am a manly man 3x over. At least I am going to look at it that way.

I think I need to go see a shrink to let him/her figure this all out so I can find out who I really am. Wait, I know, I will take MMB with me and he can explain it all to the shrink. That will save me a lot of time and money too!

Now all I have to do is figure out which one I am posting now. Hmm, let me see, am I laidback, littleroundman, baylee, or......maybe I am soapboxmom? Yeah, that's it, I am soapboxmom. Whew, glad I now know who I am at least for this post.

Stay tuned because the next time I might be Brutus, Okosh (or both) or even MMB's alter ego. One never knows with my ability to be so many people at once.

Now who am I again? Oh, that's right I am soapboxmom. Well, at least for now. Only the Shadow knows for sure, and he isn't talking. Now if I could just find my hair dye I could be MMB too.

MoneyMakingBrain
03-01-2012, 06:27 PM
Funny, I could have sworn when I looked in the mirror that I was me.

If in doubt, just look yourself on the mirror again. That is what a manipulative sock-puppeteer looks like. That's you.

An innocent man of this charge wouldn't obsessively continue to deny it with humor (psychology anyone?). Maybe with a straight face and a bit of anger. But still, the MMB knows you used a fake IP address to read my conspiracy page at 2:21 PM WCT (about an hour ago). No one else after that. So, what does this mean? If that wasn't you, it's the same conclusion. It would mean you've already read it (as "littleruinedman").

MMB

littleroundman
03-01-2012, 07:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&amp;v=SKm5xQyD2vE

Geez, this is funny.

Lil Ol' Radical Me
03-01-2012, 07:19 PM
I knew it, I knew it! Lynn's got a split personality disorder! Nya, nya, nya, nya nya....

(and I am Not Don)

Lil Ol' Radical Me
03-01-2012, 07:27 PM
If in doubt, just look yourself on the mirror again. That is what a manipulative sock-puppeteer looks like. That's you.

An innocent man of this charge wouldn't obsessively continue to deny it with humor (psychology anyone?). Maybe with a straight face and a bit of anger. But still, the MMB knows you used a fake IP address to read my conspiracy page at 2:21 PM WCT (about an hour ago). No one else after that. So, what does this mean? If that wasn't you, it's the same conclusion. It would mean you've already read it (as "littleruinedman").

MMB


And I want to know how Fred manages to generate 2% per day when he is not doing any trading, investing, or has any outside source of revenue other than new people joining, people compounding their so-called earnings, and reinvesting.

Because I can't work it out but I know MMB can tell us because he is smarter than people like Lynn and you are all being very unkind to him.

Come on MMB, please tell us the answer to that question because that is far more interesting than where these silly guys are typing from.

littleroundman
03-01-2012, 07:29 PM
Egregious ????

Did "Brain" use the word "Egregious" ????

Patrick Pretty has used the word "egregious" multiple times.

Yikes !!!

Patrick posts from America, as does MoneyMakingBrain.

You don't think.......................

It couldn't be, could it ????

Has Patrick done a Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde and gone over to the dark side along with Lynne ???

EagleOne
03-01-2012, 09:14 PM
Egregious ????

Did "Brain" use the word "Egregious" ????

Patrick Pretty has used the word "egregious" multiple times.

Yikes !!!

Patrick posts from America, as does MoneyMakingBrain.

You don't think.......................

It couldn't be, could it ????

Has Patrick done a Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde and gone over to the dark side along with Lynne ???

Shhhh, you're giving away my other persona. Actually I am: LittleRoundMan, Laidback, Whip, Baylee, Brutus, SoapBoxMom, PatrickPretty, Lil Ol' Radical Me, OldGranny, ScratchyCat, Path2Prosperity, BeenHad, Fred Mann, Prof Higgins, Goldilocks, the 3 bears, Snow White, Hansel and Gretel, the Seven Dwarfs, Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, Scrooge McDuck, Quick Draw McGraw, Snaggle Puss, Rocket J Squirrel, Bullwinkle and Auggie Doggie. And just think, that is all in just two days. Can't wait to see who all I will be tomorrow, but the Shadow knows.

ProfHenryHiggins
03-01-2012, 09:16 PM
And I want to know how Fred manages to generate 2% per day when he is not doing any trading, investing, or has any outside source of revenue other than new people joining, people compounding their so-called earnings, and reinvesting.

Because I can't work it out but I know MMB can tell us because he is smarter than people like Lynn and you are all being very unkind to him.

Come on MMB, please tell us the answer to that question because that is far more interesting than where these silly guys are typing from.



Radical, you're asking that of a youth who said this in reply to a review of JBP:

"I am going to send 100 people to open up accounts and ask them to compound the money until the year of this. If this company still exists or it’s not a money trap, it should be a good risk and still I wouldn’t put more than 10% of what I can afford to lose. Whatever that means to you."

Hardly a sensible, rational method for determining whether or not something is legitimate or not, in my opinion.

MoneyMakingBrain
03-01-2012, 09:21 PM
How much longer are you going to keep "everybody" waiting for the answer?
Once again, LRM, EagleOne, (I don't care) how did you know that "laidback" was another sock puppet of yours? Show me where I ever said that.
There, that's the $64,000 USD question.


Egregious ????

Did "Brain" use the word "Egregious" ????

Patrick Pretty has used the word "egregious" multiple times.

Yikes !!!

Patrick posts from America, as does MoneyMakingBrain.

You don't think.......................

It couldn't be, could it ????

Has Patrick done a Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde and gone over to the dark side along with Lynne ???

Shhhh, you're giving away my other persona. Actually I am: LittleRoundMan, Laidback, Whip, Baylee, Brutus, SoapBoxMom, PatrickPretty, Lil Ol' Radical Me, OldGranny, ScratchyCat, Path2Prosperity, BeenHad, Fred Mann, Prof Higgins, Goldilocks, the 3 bears, Snow White, Hansel and Gretel, the Seven Dwarfs, Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, Scrooge McDuck, Quick Draw McGraw, Snaggle Puss, Rocket J Squirrel, Bullwinkle and Auggie Doggie. And just think, that is all in just two days. Can't wait to see who all I will be tomorrow, but the Shadow knows.

EagleOne
03-01-2012, 09:24 PM
Do not believe that previous poster as it was not me.

There is an imposter running loose on this forum and it needs to stop. After all I should know because I own this forum. Wait, no I don't own this forum. What was I thinking? Well, when it has been said I owned this forum it kind of went to my head there for a moment. Wait, now who am I? Yeah, I'm not the previous poster and I can prove it. Just ask MMB that great investigative detective par excellence'.

No, I'm littleroundman, no I am baylee, no you can't be baylee because I am baylee. No, you're not baylee you're laidback. No You can't be laidback because I am laidback. Err, uh gosh..Sheesh all these voices in my head. ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

littleroundman
03-01-2012, 09:38 PM
I suppose I could zip down to the local golf course and take a few shots of the kangaroos, but it wouldn't fit in with MMBs conspiracy theories, so why bother ??

Besides, it's much more fun watching "the Brain" floundering around grasping at straws and studiously avoiding revealing how Freddie can generate 2% daily for his members.

It makes me so glad I had the foresight 20 years ago to set up all these fake IDs and maintain the illusion over all this time.

Who woulda thunk, back in the days of bulletin boards and connection speeds measured in bauds, that my subterfuge would get sprung by a self styled MoneyMakingBrain ??

Lil Ol' Radical Me
03-01-2012, 09:38 PM
How much longer are you going to keep "everybody" waiting for the answer?
Once again, LRM, EagleOne, (I don't care) how did you know that "laidback" was another sock puppet of yours? Show me where I ever said that.
There, that's the $64,000 USD question.

Hey MMB, glad to see you back and while you are here can you PLEASE answer my question - whether you reckon it's a 64 thousand dollar one or not - 10 bucks is good enough for me

how does Fred manage to generate 2% per day when he is not doing any trading, investing, or has any outside source of revenue other than new people joining, people compounding their earnings, and reinvesting.?


You know the answer so please share it.

(And I haven't a clue who I am now as I'm having a serious identity crisis)

MoneyMakingBrain
03-01-2012, 09:44 PM
Do not believe that previous poster as it was not me.

There is an imposter running loose on this forum and it needs to stop. After all I should know because I own this forum. Wait, no I don't own this forum. What was I thinking? Well, when it has been said I owned this forum it kind of went to my head there for a moment. Wait, now who am I? Yeah, I'm not the previous poster and I can prove it. Just ask MMB that great investigative detective par excellence'.

No, I'm littleroundman, no I am baylee, no you can't be baylee because I am baylee. No, you're not baylee you're laidback. No You can't be laidback because I am laidback. Err, uh gosh..Sheesh all these voices in my head. ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Right, I thought so, indeed very concerned for this charges. That said, I wouldn't get a credit card from someone like you, even if the interest rate, on both, purchases and cash advances, were 0% for eternity. Your "professional" attitude should be noted by Capital One as you give this company, a 'good' name indeed.

MMB

littleroundman
03-01-2012, 09:48 PM
For some unknown reason, I have had an overwhelming urge to look up the meaning of a word.

Don't ask me why, it just happened.


i·ro·ny/ˈīrənē/

Noun:


The expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.

Synonyms:
noun. taunt - sarcasm

MoneyMakingBrain
03-01-2012, 09:51 PM
Hey MMB, glad to see you back and while you are here can you PLEASE answer my question - whether you reckon it's a 64 thousand dollar one or not - 10 bucks is good enough for me

how does Fred manage to generate 2% per day when he is not doing any trading, investing, or has any outside source of revenue other than new people joining, people compounding their earnings, and reinvesting.?


You know the answer so please share it.

(And I haven't a clue who I am now as I'm having a serious identity crisis)


I'm sorry to disappoint you Lil Ol Radical, you're asking a day time online reporter (mostly money making stuff) and (part time) crime fighter by night :) not an expert in 'high' finances. But, if you really want to know what the MMB thinks what Frederick Mann is doing with that 2% daily interest paradigm, I suggest you go to:
Creating Content Out of Thin Air: February 2012 (http://moneymakinbrain.blogspot.com/2012_02_01_archive.html)

And use Ctrl + F to search for keyword "2%"

I hope this helps,

MMB

MoneyMakingBrain
03-01-2012, 10:05 PM
For some unknown reason, I have had an overwhelming urge to look up the meaning of a word.

Don't ask me why, it just happened.

Lynn, at the bottom of this vBB, it says:

Thread Information
There are currently 4 users browsing this thread. (1 members and 3 guests)

You can actually see the users who are viewing the page! Do you know how many times have I seen users "littleroundman" and "EagleOne" displayed at the bottom of the page?

0 times (that's since the first time I posted anything here).

Tip:

Open up a second browser in your computer and log in as "EagleOne", that way you'll make people believe that "LRM" and EagleOne are 'really' 2 different users.
But why stop there? Download all the browsers available from the web, and you can have many more of your "users" online! It will look like a real party :)

No need to thank me.

MMB

littleroundman
03-01-2012, 10:05 PM
I'm

yada, yada, duck, dive, twist, turn, wriggle, squirm, yada, yada

MMB

Translation: "I haven't got a bloody clue, but I'll argue about it all day and night, because that's what I do"

littleroundman
03-01-2012, 10:11 PM
Lynn, at the bottom of this vBB, it says:

Thread Information
There are currently 4 users browsing this thread. (1 members and 3 guests)

You can actually see the users who are viewing the page! Do you know how many times have I seen users "littleroundman" and "EagleOne" displayed at the bottom of the page?

0 times (that's since the first time I posted anything here).

Tip:

Open up a second browser in your computer and log in as "EagleOne", that way you'll make people believe that "LRM" and EagleOne are 'really' 2 different users.
But why stop there? Download all the browsers available from the web, and you can have many more of your "users" online! It will look like a real party :)

No need to thank me.

MMB

Umm, err, Mr Brain, with the greatest respect to your investigative skills, could I point out a feature of the forum software you might have just overlooked ??

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/privacy.jpg

littleroundman
03-01-2012, 10:33 PM
Brain, Brain,

COME BACK !!

I didn't mean to disparage your investigative skills, honest I didn't.

I was just funnin' ya.

Perhaps we can talk some more about your "you're all using proxies" theories or perhaps you can spend some time explaining how good ol' Freddie Mann can offer higher interest rates than anyone else ON THE PLANET.

That shouldn't be a problem, what, with you being a financial reporter and all.

MoneyMakingBrain
03-01-2012, 10:35 PM
Umm, err, Mr Brain, with the greatest respect to your investigative skills, could I point out a feature of the forum software you might have just overlooked ??

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/privacy.jpg

It makes no difference when you use IP Detector.

MMB

littleroundman
03-01-2012, 10:53 PM
It makes no difference when you use IP Detector.

MMB

Then explain to me how it works, Oh Great Tech Guru.

* My IP is dynamic, it changes every time I reboot the modem or power down the computer.

* My service provider has approx. 20,000 clients.

* My service provider has, over the past few years, absorbed around 15 smaller providers. Thus, my IP can show as being attached to one of them, depending on the time of day, network load and routing policies of the service provider.
Depending on the time of day, I can be shown to be with a different provider AND being in a completely different state, 5,000 miles away from my actual location.

* You have "A" IP number, now what ??? Without a court order, you cannot drill down any further.
* A poster using the same service provider accesses your blog SO WHAT ??
You have a 1 in 20,000+ chance of GUESSING it's me.

* You claim Lynne and I never appear on the forum at the same time.
How would you know ???
I am in invisible mode, you can't tell if I'm even here, much less my IP.

IOW, MoneyMakingBrain, you're a bloody liar.

You have no clue what you're talking about.

It's all bluff and bluster,

Oh, and badly done, at that.

You're boring.

littleroundman
03-01-2012, 11:10 PM
you'll find that we could be formidable allies,

Yeah right.

Being allied with a "financial reporter" who believes someone/anyone is capable of delivering 2% PER DAY interest on an investment.

That would be 2% PER DAY on a sustainable basis, as well.

Gee, that would be a marriage made in heaven, wouldn't it ???

Imagine the joy we'd have having the same credibility level on the 'net as MoneyMakingBrain.

HINT: Why don't you do a bit of freelance reporting and submit your findings about Frederick Manns' incredible program to a somewhere like The Wall Street Journal ??

I'd imagine the WSJ would pay a pretty penny to be the first mainstream news outlet to bring the news to the public.

You'd be an international celebrity overnight, AND rich, to boot.

Just don't forget where you got your start when you hit the top of your profession, will you ??

okosh
03-01-2012, 11:49 PM
Sorry to interupt your play time LRM but I must ask.....Are those links that Money-Making-NO- Brain is posting safe to click??....I don't care about him having my IP but I don't want any viruses....
I'd like to go read there but this post from little kitty got me wondering...


Little ole SC here folks been reading this for days and decided to go see what MMB was talking about. Looks to be a trap of sorts, my computer hung up and I had to disconnect from internet and reboot. He must be up to 'tricks' and the links are there to lure you in, it should have been easy to get my IP address but I would caution the rest of you to be more careful. You know about cats and curosity... Personally, I think MMB is full of hot air but sending computer viruses or trying to access someone's pc is I believe against the legal system...

Just wanted you to know what just happened with me.

Soapboxmom
03-01-2012, 11:51 PM
It makes no difference when you use IP Detector.

MMB
Wow!!! I am always late to these parties. You, brain, are an idiot. I guess those alien chicks on Star Trek got your brain too, or is this a case of its dead Jim??? Only admins and mods here can see an IP address. And, the same rule applies to users that choose to be hidden. Only admins and mods can see them. And, unlike George of the Scam Jungle, the owner here keeps the software updated and has the latest security, so you can't do or see squat!!!

And, this inane discourse did what to prove the legitimacy of your earnings claims???

Soapboxmom / Lynn / LRM et al

littleroundman
03-01-2012, 11:58 PM
Sorry to interupt your play time LRM but I must ask.....Are those links that Money-Making-NO- Brain is posting safe to click??....I don't care about him having my IP but I don't want any viruses....
I'd like to go read there but this post from little kitty got me wondering...

No problems.

None of the NoScript or my virus checker or my anti malware alerts went off.

My boring-as-batsh!t-o-meter and B/S-0-METER, however, are off the scale.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED !!

littleroundman
03-02-2012, 12:08 AM
Wow!!! I am always late to these parties. You, brain, are an idiot. I guess those alien chicks on Star Trek got your brain too, or is this a case of its dead Jim??? Only admins and mods here can see an IP address. And, the same rule applies to users that choose to be hidden. Only admins and mods can see them. And, unlike George of the Scam Jungle, the owner here keeps the software updated and has the latest security, so you can't do or see squat!!!

And, this inane discourse did what to prove the legitimacy of your earnings claims???

Soapboxmom / Lynn / LRM et al

S-S-S-S-H,

Don't frighten him away with facts.

We want him to stay here and keep posting.

The longer he stays and the more theories he spouts, the more ridiculous he looks.

Another week or so of his nonsense, even his mates at the mysterious "mirror" forum will be ridiculing him and he'll do us all a favour and disappear into the ether, never to be seen or heard from again.

AND, without anyone here having to lift a finger to help him.

HeHe, I can see the Wall Street Journal headlines now:

"Ace online financial reporter reveals unheard of interest rates to the public"

Just think, the EuroDebt crisis will be eliminated in a matter of weeks once Greece finds out about Freddie Mann/MoneyMakingBrains' solution.

okosh
03-02-2012, 12:20 AM
No problems.

None of the NoScript or my virus checker or my anti malware alerts went off.

My boring-as-batsh!t-o-meter and B/S-0-METER, however, are off the scale.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED !!

Thanks mate....

littleroundman
03-02-2012, 07:02 AM
Can anyone see what's wrong with this picture ??


The United States' most famous investorWarren Buffett, from 1965-2005, has produced an annual average return of 21.5%, which is double the return of the S&P 500 - including dividends


George Soros - the man that broke the Bank of England - generated an annual return of 30% through his Quantum Fund from 1970-2000, nearly three times the average return of the S&P 500.


MoneyMakingBrains' hero, the hitherto unknown Frederick Mann is offering a DAILY return of 2% to his investors

scratchycat
03-02-2012, 09:18 AM
Sorry to interupt your play time LRM but I must ask.....Are those links that Money-Making-NO- Brain is posting safe to click??....I don't care about him having my IP but I don't want any viruses....
I'd like to go read there but this post from little kitty got me wondering...

Okosh, I forgot to "hidemyass" but with the intelligence and investigative skills of the great MMB can even the great Super Power antivirus IP hider protect us from WORMS!!! He keeps casting them out there trying to catch those little fishes :fishing_can:. Does an increase in traffic give you more brain power?

Finally I have figured out who the mystery person is: Little Round Soapbox Mom with Eagle wings and Cat's claws is a Laidback Wizzard (probably with a title of Professor)!!!

laidback
03-02-2012, 10:07 AM
After having read through MoronicMonkeyBrain's claims of wondrous abilitles and skills, the conclusion that can be drawn is this: The only people that will believe his drivel are those with an IQ approaching Zero.....from the underside...!

littleroundman
03-02-2012, 10:24 AM
you're asking a day time online reporter (mostly money making stuff)

I can't begin to imagine what type of "money making stuff" gets "reported" by the brain ???

If Freddie Mann and JustBeenPaid are examples of what's "good" and worth making a fool of himself to defend, I'd hate to see what he reports as being "less than good"

Warren Buffett = Not so good

Freddie Mann = excellent

MoneyMakingBrain
03-02-2012, 12:04 PM
After having read through MoronicMonkeyBrain's claims of wondrous abilitles and skills, the conclusion that can be drawn is this: The only people that will believe his drivel are those with an IQ approaching Zero.....from the underside...!

It maybe so, but your IQ may not even reach 0, but be already in negative territory (-100). You still don't get it, do you, wise "guy"? How did "Lynn" know you were another sock? How is it that he 'nailed' all 3 socks out of the bunch? Did "Patrick" ultimately tell him? :)


@"Lynn", you continue to dig deeper and deeper into this hole and you'll just never be able to get out there. The more you talk the more you stick your foot in it. Not only you with your LRM talk about "huffing" and "puffing" on forums or blogs, but you really are 'yourself' that self fulfilled prophecy.

Anyway, I really shouldn't continue replying here as your guilt is self evident.

Even If Freed Mann committed fraud today and you were proven right (round of applause), you still can't escape the fact that you are a [self censored] sock puppeteer playing with a myriad of fake user names on your personal crackpot forum to make anyone believe that "EagleOne" is the authority here, and that visitors should donate directly to you.

You can insult me as many times as you want using every sock puppet at your disposal, but MMB doesn't care.


* My IP is dynamic, it changes every time I reboot the modem or power down the computer.

* My service provider has approx. 20,000 clients.

That's BS! True to form you continue to talk about subjects you clearly don't understand and your always providing misinformation!

The only time an identifier for a computer or device on a TCP/IP network is that "dynamic", is when you move from location to location (usually via wireless laptops, iPods, cell phones, etc) and still the MMB can determine that's you. Most office/home computers connected to an internet service provider, however dynamic, never change all octets of numbers, only the last one (anywhere from 0-255), let alone, change the country of origin, browser and OS info.

@Soapboxmom, you start sounding a lot like your hero, "LRM".


"You, brain, are an idiot. I guess those alien chicks on Star Trek got your brain too, or is this a case of its dead Jim??? Only admins and mods here can see an IP address. And, the same rule applies to users that choose to be hidden. "

If only admins can see numbers, then explain to us how come I told you that Patrick Hernan visited these pages at an exact time, or that you too were using a proxy to connect to the internet? BTW, what are you afraid of "soapboxmom"? Is it maybe that you, and the littleruinedman, have the habit of using proxy ip software all the time? Did you buy HIDE-MY-IP?

That would really explain why in IP DETECTOR, "someone" reads out as using multiple IP addresses every time "someone" posts on this crackpot forum. Maybe you should buy this IP DETECTOR trick from me :)

@Okosh,

My respects to you. I hope you realize by now that the MMB is not an internet vandal. You're welcome to read that blog as much as you like, there are no worms and viruses, whatever. Guaranteed, And, it's Goggle, for crying sake! ;)

And, I am really sorry I had to destroy that illusion of honor and good faith the "littleruinedman" was projecting for you all the time. But now you see him for what he really is: the great Lynndel “Lynn” Edgington of Eagle Research Associates Inc., who can be, I am sure, a great guy in person, but unfortunately, the internet got the best of him, and brought all his demons out.

I guess the MMB has nothing else to do here but leave, because he knows now, that he'll never get the answer to the $64,000 USD question straight from EagleOne's mouth (or, won't I? :)

MMB

ProfHenryHiggins
03-02-2012, 12:30 PM
Is your IP Detector able to tell you where I'm posting from, MMB?
Or just who my internet service provider is from this location?


On another matter, while you give your name as Sanyam Nenawati in many places, the one official record I found in India of your dwelling place listed the occupant as Sanjay Kumar Nenawati. Your legal name, or an older relative?


Lastly, I would agree that you are far from a genius. People who are that smart don't need to boast about it.

MoneyMakingBrain
03-02-2012, 12:47 PM
Is your IP Detector able to tell you where I'm posting from, MMB?
Or just who my internet service provider is from this location?


On another matter, while you give your name as Sanyam Nenawati in many places, the one official record I found in India of your dwelling place listed the occupant as Sanjay Kumar Nenawati. Your legal name, or an older relative?


Lastly, I would agree that you are far from a genius. People who are that smart don't need to boast about it.

Well excuse Professor, I didn't mean to be boast.
For someone who calls himself a "professor" you ask too many questions.
Unfortunately for the few who read this thread, you never ask the right questions.
Which makes me wonder why?
Are you in denial?
What happened Professor?
Did you call technical support and got someone from India? LOL!

So, come and visit my page (LOL):
Sanjay Nenawati | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/people/Sanjay-Nenawati/100000855095422?sk=wall)

Or better yet, read "how to create content out of thin air" and learn how the great Patrick Hernan does it"
Creating Content Out of Thin Air: February 2012 (http://moneymakinbrain.blogspot.com/2012_02_01_archive.html)

Call me or do whatever you like but stop insulting my intelligence (another insult coming up) ;)

MMB

ProfHenryHiggins
03-02-2012, 01:01 PM
If you had as much of a brain as a scarecrow nailed to a beanstalk, you'd have known that "Professor Henry Higgins" is the name of a well-known character of stage and screen. I'm not claiming to be a professor, but rather, using the name of a character I am fond of.

So what would be the "right" questions to ask? Whether or not you are still living at 4a 24 new housing board Shastri Nagar Bhilwara, Rajasthan 311001, India? Not the question you had in mind, I suspect.

Soapboxmom
03-02-2012, 01:23 PM
It maybe so, but your IQ may not even reach 0, but be already in negative territory (-100). You still don't get it, do you, wise "guy"? How did "Lynn" know you were another sock? How is it that he 'nailed' all 3 socks out of the bunch? Did "Patrick" ultimately tell him? :)


@"Lynn", you continue to dig deeper and deeper into this hole and you'll just never be able to get out there. The more you talk the more you stick your foot in it. Not only you with your LRM talk about "huffing" and "puffing" on forums or blogs, but you really are 'yourself' that self fulfilled prophecy.

Anyway, I really shouldn't continue replying here as your guilt is self evident.

Even If Freed Mann committed fraud today and you were proven right (round of applause), you still can't escape the fact that you are a [self censored] sock puppeteer playing with a myriad of fake user names on your personal crackpot forum to make anyone believe that "EagleOne" is the authority here, and that visitors should donate directly to you.

You can insult me as many times as you want using every sock puppet at your disposal, but MMB doesn't care.



That's BS! True to form you continue to talk about subjects you clearly don't understand and your always providing misinformation!

The only time an identifier for a computer or device on a TCP/IP network is that "dynamic", is when you move from location to location (usually via wireless laptops, iPods, cell phones, etc) and still the MMB can determine that's you. Most office/home computers connected to an internet service provider, however dynamic, never change all octets of numbers, only the last one (anywhere from 0-255), let alone, change the country of origin, browser and OS info.

@Soapboxmom, you start sounding a lot like your hero, "LRM".



If only admins can see numbers, then explain to us how come I told you that Patrick Hernan visited these pages at an exact time, or that you too were using a proxy to connect to the internet? BTW, what are you afraid of "soapboxmom"? Is it maybe that you, and the littleruinedman, have the habit of using proxy ip software all the time? Did you buy HIDE-MY-IP?

That would really explain why in IP DETECTOR, "someone" reads out as using multiple IP addresses every time "someone" posts on this crackpot forum. Maybe you should buy this IP DETECTOR trick from me :)

@Okosh,

My respects to you. I hope you realize by now that the MMB is not an internet vandal. You're welcome to read that blog as much as you like, there are no worms and viruses, whatever. Guaranteed, And, it's Goggle, for crying sake! ;)

And, I am really sorry I had to destroy that illusion of honor and good faith the "littleruinedman" was projecting for you all the time. But now you see him for what he really is: the great Lynndel “Lynn” Edgington of Eagle Research Associates Inc., who can be, I am sure, a great guy in person, but unfortunately, the internet got the best of him, and brought all his demons out.

I guess the MMB has nothing else to do here but leave, because he knows now, that he'll never get the answer to the $64,000 USD question straight from EagleOne's mouth (or, won't I? :)

MMB
Oh you poor brain addled boy. Let me clear a few things up for you. Lynn and LRM are not the same person. We share the loo in the back office, so I would know! HAHA!!!

I do not use a proxy server to come onto this site. The owner wanted to stay anonymous from day one. That person asked me to be the first Admin and gave me the option of changing my name after the horrible experience I had had at Scam. I said I am known as Soapboxmom and I would like to stay Soapboxmom. As I knew I would be posting court documents with my real name all over them, it would be pointless to change my username. Why would I come onto the site I manage using a proxy server? You are one crazy boy MMB. But, since you made these wild claims please do post the IPs you claim I am using and clarify how it is you know that alleged proxy server IP(s) belongs to moi! I need a good laugh!

Soapboxmom

MoneyMakingBrain
03-02-2012, 01:32 PM
If you had as much of a brain as a scarecrow nailed to a beanstalk, you'd have known that "Professor Henry Higgins" is the name of a well-known character of stage and screen. I'm not claiming to be a professor, but rather, using the name of a character I am fond of.

So what would be the "right" questions to ask? Whether or not you are still living at 4a 24 new housing board Shastri Nagar Bhilwara, Rajasthan 311001, India? Not the question you had in mind, I suspect.

Well Lynn, I kind of knew that all along. I was just waiting for the moment you used the rope I gave you to hang yourself up.
And needless to say, you that fell in the trap.

Keep creating content out of thin air for the MMB, because the MMB is the only getting paid here from all this by the thousands of "real" people who subscribe to the MMB. I've received so many congratulations for a job well done already, the only answer to a question my readers are dying to know in this caper, is if Patrick Hernan is joined to the hip with you ;)

Read all about it here:
Creating Content Out of Thin Air: Lynn "Desperado" Edgington: no escape (http://moneymakinbrain.blogspot.com/2012/03/lynn-desperado-edgington-no-escape.html)

It doesn't make any difference if you use your LA or Long Beach connection, or your HIDE IP software, or any proxy servers, because your OS info is enough to me, and thus you can't hide from the MMB.

MMB

ProfHenryHiggins
03-02-2012, 01:38 PM
Why are you quoting my post, but answering as if you were talking to Lynn?

And if that was you running the attack on my computer from onlineusayy.com a little while ago, well, congratulations you just infected yourself. Because I've been holding a pair of trojans that I can't seem to delete, but can prevent from accessing the Internet on their own. An attacker hits me and gets them in their computer.

MoneyMakingBrain
03-02-2012, 02:24 PM
Oh you poor brain addled boy. Let me clear a few things up for you. Lynn and LRM are not the same person. We share the loo in the back office, so I would know! HAHA!!!

I do not use a proxy server to come onto this site. The owner wanted to stay anonymous from day one. That person asked me to be the first Admin and gave me the option of changing my name after the horrible experience I had had at Scam. I said I am known as Soapboxmom and I would like to stay Soapboxmom. As I knew I would be posting court documents with my real name all over them, it would be pointless to change my username. Why would I come onto the site I manage using a proxy server? You are one crazy boy MMB.
I never said that you were one of Lynn' socks, but you made yourself look a meat puppet (look Wikipedia for that definition).

I said it clearly, IP DETECTOR shows egregious abuse of administrative powers on this site, so whether this is your doing or not, the result is still that someone is playing with multiple accounts.

There are clear signs that two individuals one from Perth, Australia and one from the west coast of USA, are running the show here.

That said, that one individual from the west coast is the one I have a problem with.

Now please stop deviating the focus and let the MMB ask the question again: how come "Lynn", accurately mentioned all three sock puppets when I only said there were two of them?



But, since you made these wild claims please do post the IPs you claim I am using and clarify how it is you know that alleged proxy server IP(s) belongs to moi! I need a good laugh!

If you want me to answer that question, then answer this first:

Did you read the "No Escape" article on my blog before you posted in this thread?

MMB

Soapboxmom
03-02-2012, 02:31 PM
I did not read your blog. And, there are actually 3 active people running the show as you say. The owner has not posted for some time. So, what is your real problem with the management here???

Soapboxmom

MoneyMakingBrain
03-02-2012, 02:39 PM
I did not read your blog.

So, why don't you? You are not afraid of reading a Google blog, are you?

MMB

EagleOne
03-02-2012, 02:41 PM
MMB: In regard to this question of yours, and I quote:

Now please stop deviating the focus and let the MMB ask the question again: how come "Lynn", accurately mentioned all three sock puppets when I only said there were two of them?

The answer is very simple. Because I am 100 times smarter than you, and I am being modest.

This from a guy who claims that I am at least 5 personalities, if not more by now, and has no clue he could not be more wrong. I know you are going to deny that you are wrong, I have seen this many times before. It is obvious that you think you are a genius. You have not been right about anything you have posted as to who I am, or who all you think I am. The fact that you don't believe it, or me, is not my problem but yours.

You keep claiming you want to have a serious discussion, but one cannot have a serious discussion with an idiot. You see the problem is that to an outsider they might not know which is which, and all they do is try to drag you down to their level. As long as you keep insisting I am all these diffferent people, I will continue to ridicule you, make fun of you and use sarcasm in my posts directed at you. It is all you deserve. But slowly but surely the people on whatever blog you have, or claim to have, will begin to see you for who you really are...a complete fool and ignorant to boot. Oh, and more thing, I have never been to whatever forum you claim I have visited. Bummer isn't it, just one more thing you have gotten wrong among all the hundreds of other things. But why ruin a perfect losing streak now?

I am only one person, and have never been more than one person posting on this forum or any other forum for that matter. But for all your other claims, here's what I want you to do. Go to the authorities and file a complaint about me. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do this. It is time for you to stop talking about it and do it. Otherwise you are nothing more than hot air, or as you like to claim that I as LRM and I say you are "huffing and puffing." Your only problem is going to be to decide which person you are going to file the complaint about. Decisions, decisions, decisions. Actually you don't have the balls to go the authorities. I know it, and all of my other personalities you claim are me know it too. Anyone with an IQ above 50 knows it.

One more piece of advice, when your IQ hits 54 SELL!

ProfHenryHiggins
03-02-2012, 02:46 PM
Perth, Australia would be littleroundman, if I'[m remembering right.

Now why do you have a problem with the other person? And how are you going to tell which west coast individual is which?

MoneyMakingBrain
03-02-2012, 02:58 PM
Coloring comments while talking like a juvenile only makes you look more like the "littleroundman", not like someone who should be representing Capital One

Anyway Lynn, the MMB is not a sanitation worker, so he is not interested in cleaning up garbage from the streets. The only thing I can hope for you is that you stop biting newcomers every time they don't agree with your views, and that your partners see that is probably best to let you go as admin.

Last but not least, hopefully the top brass at Capital One reads the MMB's blog about you, and decides that you are a liability to the company and not an asset.

MMB


MMB: In regard to this question of yours, and I quote:

Now please stop deviating the focus and let the MMB ask the question again: how come "Lynn", accurately mentioned all three sock puppets when I only said there were two of them?

The answer is very simple. Because I am 100 times smarter than you, and I am being modest.

This from a guy who claims that I am at least 5 personalities, if not more by now, and has no clue he could not be more wrong. I know you are going to deny that you are wrong, I have seen this many times before. It is obvious that you think you are a genius. You have not been right about anything you have posted as to who I am, or who all you think I am. The fact that you don't believe it, or me, is not my problem but yours.

You keep claiming you want to have a serious discussion, but one cannot have a serious discussion with an idiot. You see the problem is that to an outsider they might not know which is which, and all they do is try to drag you down to their level. As long as you keep insisting I am all these diffferent people, I will continue to ridicule you, make fun of you and use sarcasm in my posts directed at you. It is all you deserve. But slowly but surely the people on whatever blog you have, or claim to have, will begin to see you for who you really are...a complete fool and ignorant to boot. Oh, and more thing, I have never been to whatever forum you claim I have visited. Bummer isn't it, just one more thing you have gotten wrong among all the hundreds of other things. But why ruin a perfect losing streak now?

I am only one person, and have never been more than one person posting on this forum or any other forum for that matter. But for all your other claims, here's what I want you to do. Go to the authorities and file a complaint about me. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do this. It is time for you to stop talking about it and do it. Otherwise you are nothing more than hot air, or as you like to claim that I as LRM and I say you are "huffing and puffing." Your only problem is going to be to decide which person you are going to file the complaint about. Decisions, decisions, decisions. Actually you don't have the balls to go the authorities. I know it, and all of my other personalities you claim are me know it too. Anyone with an IQ above 50 knows it.

One more piece of advice, when your IQ hits 54 SELL!

surfer
03-02-2012, 03:31 PM
You guys really need to add a popcorn eating emoticon. :scared_1:

Can you even count how many ridiculous back and forth conversations like this you've had over the years?

EagleOne
03-02-2012, 03:56 PM
Prof: In regard to your question: Why are you quoting my post, but answering as if you were talking to Lynn?

The answer is that "everyone" who posts here is me. Well, according to MMB that is. It's all he's got. What is truly laughable is that he thinks the top brass at Capital One would ever bother to read his blather on any forum, let alone his own blog. But then when you are delusional and a legend in your own mind like him, he's convinced they would.

MoneyMakingBrain
03-02-2012, 06:17 PM
Prof: In regard to your question: Why are you quoting my post, but answering as if you were talking to Lynn?

The answer is that "everyone" who posts here is me. Well, according to MMB that is. It's all he's got. What is truly laughable is that he thinks the top brass at Capital One would ever bother to read his blather on any forum, let alone his own blog. But then when you are delusional and a legend in your own mind like him, he's convinced they would.

Not "everyone" Lynn, the professor is not a sock-puppeteer. And, don't second guessing my comments, another bad habit of yours. Anyway, you got no clue as to where I am going with all this or why I had to expose you for what you are: a dangerous sock puppeteer. As for who reads the MMB report - you just got no idea who does.

MMB

MoneyMakingBrain
03-02-2012, 06:25 PM
You guys really need to add a popcorn eating emoticon. :scared_1:

Can you even count how many ridiculous back and forth conversations like this you've had over the years?

A year and 8 months, not "years":

06-16-2010 Soapboxmom
06-23-2010 Littleroundman
06-28-2010 Lynn "The Eagle" one

Amazing how all these guys decided on that June to do such a fine public service for all of us. :)

MMB

laidback
03-02-2012, 07:03 PM
A year and 8 months, not "years":

06-16-2010 Soapboxmom
06-23-2010 Littleroundman
06-28-2010 Lynn "The Eagle" one

Amazing how all these guys decided on that June to do such a fine public service for all of us. :)

MMB

Make up your mind, dipstick. Is it "all these guys". or just one "guy". Are you not getting those dots connected...?

surfer
03-02-2012, 07:06 PM
A year and 8 months, not "years":

06-16-2010 Soapboxmom
06-23-2010 Littleroundman
06-28-2010 Lynn "The Eagle" one

Amazing how all these guys decided on that June to do such a fine public service for all of us. :)

MMB

Actually MMB, they've been performing this service a hell of a lot longer than that.

Those join dates are all near the beginning of this forum's origin.

littleroundman
03-02-2012, 07:31 PM
You guys really need to add a popcorn eating emoticon. :scared_1:

Can you even count how many ridiculous back and forth conversations like this you've had over the years?

You misjudge what's happening.

It is virtually impossible to stop a troll by using logic or factual arguments.

Trolls, by their very nature lie and/or simply ignore the fact he/she has been caught in a lie or exposed.

My philosophy has always been to engage with and encourage trolls to continue posting.

It's been my experience if you keep a troll posting long enough, they'll end up doing a job on themselves Blind Freddy couldn't ignore.

Besides, we can't ALWAYS be serious, "All work and no play" and all that stuff.

While MoneyMakingBrain doesn't realize he's being played by the adults, carry on doing it, I say.

littleroundman
03-02-2012, 07:46 PM
A year and 8 months, not "years":

06-16-2010 Soapboxmom
06-23-2010 Littleroundman
06-28-2010 Lynn "The Eagle" one

Amazing how all these guys decided on that June to do such a fine public service for all of us. :)

MMB

HeHeHe,

Now, for those thinking of persuing a career in "Due Diligence" good ol' MoneyMakingBrain has provided the first lesson.

[private message to the brain]Ummn, Brainy, how would the "guys" have posted on REALSCAM.com (http://www.realscam.com/) BEFORE June 2010. As far as I recall, the forum wasn't even in existence UNTIL June 2010[/private message to the brain]

Whip
03-02-2012, 07:47 PM
You guys really need to add a popcorn eating emoticon. :scared_1:

Can you even count how many ridiculous back and forth conversations like this you've had over the years?

I'm partial to this one myself: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/Whip412/busy-1.gif

littleroundman
03-03-2012, 12:30 AM
There are clear signs that two individuals one from Perth, Australia

Yep, ya got me.

Now what ??


Perth is the capital city of the state of Western Australia. The city covers an area of 5306 square kilometres and is built beside the Swan River.


Perth (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8a/Loudspeaker.svg/11px-Loudspeaker.svg.png / (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English)ˈ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English#Key)p (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English#Key)ɜr (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English#Key)θ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English#Key)/ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English))[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perth,_Western_Australia#cite_note-7) is the capital (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Australian_capital_cities) and largest city of the Australian state (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_and_territories_of_Australia) of Western Australia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Australia) and the fourth most populous city (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_Australia_by_population) in Australia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia). The Perth metropolitan area has an estimated population of almost 1,700,000

You could have saved yourself a whole heap of work and embarrasment and just asked, you know.

It's not like I've ever tried to hide the fact.

okosh
03-03-2012, 12:42 AM
@Okosh,

My respects to you. I hope you realize by now that the MMB is not an internet vandal. You're welcome to read that blog as much as you like, there are no worms and viruses, whatever. Guaranteed, And, it's Goggle, for crying sake! ;)

MMB

Yea...You not an internet vandal but what you are is a goose....



And, I am really sorry I had to destroy that illusion of honor and good faith the "littleruinedman" was projecting for you all the time. But now you see him for what he really is: the great Lynndel “Lynn” Edgington of Eagle Research Associates Inc., who can be, I am sure, a great guy in person, but unfortunately, the internet got the best of him, and brought all his demons out.


Nothing destroyed at all....I've known LRM for years and he is by far the most decent and honorable person I've ever met online....

You mr MMB need to wipe your chin because the **** is just dribbling out of your mouth....

You claim to be making money from the "thousands of "real" people who subscribe to the MMB. " yet you only started the blog a couple of days ago....

You claim that LRM and Lyn are the same person yet you also posted that one of the IP's is West coast USA and thw other is is here in Australia.....So how can they be same person??....

You MMB are the best walking, talking advertisement for birth control I've ever seen.....You also proof of why cousins shouldn't sleep together....

okosh
03-03-2012, 12:44 AM
Okosh, I forgot to "hidemyass" but with the intelligence and investigative skills of the great MMB can even the great Super Power antivirus IP hider protect us from WORMS!!! He keeps casting them out there trying to catch those little fishes :fishing_can:. Does an increase in traffic give you more brain power?

Finally I have figured out who the mystery person is: Little Round Soapbox Mom with Eagle wings and Cat's claws is a Laidback Wizzard (probably with a title of Professor)!!!

I do feela little left out since he feels that Lyn is everyone on the forum except me:RpS_sleep:

okosh
03-03-2012, 12:48 AM
Yep, ya got me.

Now what ??





You could have saved yourself a whole heap of work and embarrasment and just asked, you know.

It's not like I've ever tried to hide the fact.

I may as well save him the trouble as well.....Your on the north island of Aus and I'm on the south island of Aus....

littleroundman
03-03-2012, 01:21 AM
You claim that LRM and Lyn are the same person yet you also posted that one of the IP's is West coast USA and thw other is is here in Australia.....So how can they be same person??....

That one's got me ever so slightly confused, as well.

One minute, I'm Lynne, the next MoneyMakingBrain has gasp-shock-horror traced me to Western Australia, like it is some sort of secret.

And, I STILL can't work out MMBs fascination with finding IP numbers and service providers.

What on earth does he think having someones' IP number means ??

I mean, here's a recent story about how my service provider has spent MILLIONS taking on Hollywood over its' (iinets) refusal to identify alleged illegal movie downloaders: Media Wave | iiNet vs Hollywood - Anthony Palmer Comments (http://www.mediawave.tv/site/item.cfm?item=2D5348E1E2CE31D14A4FBEE64952D15C)


The iiNet decision in the Australian Federal Court was a landmark in the global battle of rights holders versus file sharers. What implications does it have for content creators?

What does the Brain think ???

Any self respecting service provider is going to hand over any information pertaining to an IP number alleged, by an anonymous forum poster using the handle 'MoneyMakinBrain," to have been used illegally, while simultaneously spending millions of dollars fighting the might of the Hollywood film industrys' attempts to obtain the same type of information ??

C'mon, that's so much nonsense it hardly bears repeating, much having the slightest concern over.

littleroundman
03-03-2012, 01:39 AM
Rinse, repeat.

Anyone see what's wrong with these statements ??


The United States' most famous investorWarren Buffett, from 1965-2005, has produced an ANNUAL average return of 21.5%, which is double the return of the S&P 500 - including dividends


George Soros - the man that broke the Bank of England - generated an ANNUAL return of 30% through his Quantum Fund from 1970-2000, nearly three times the average return of the S&P 500.


MoneyMakingBrains' hero, the hitherto unknown Frederick Mann is offering a DAILY return of 2% to his investors

okosh
03-03-2012, 01:44 AM
That one's got me ever so slightly confused, as well.

One minute, I'm Lynne, the next MoneyMakingBrain has gasp-shock-horror traced me to Western Australia, like it is some sort of secret.

And, I STILL can't work out MMBs fascination with finding IP numbers and service providers.

What on earth does he think having someones' IP number means ??

I mean, here's a recent story about how my service provider has spent MILLIONS taking on Hollywood over its' (iinets) refusal to identify alleged illegal movie downloaders: Media Wave | iiNet vs Hollywood - Anthony Palmer Comments (http://www.mediawave.tv/site/item.cfm?item=2D5348E1E2CE31D14A4FBEE64952D15C)



What does the Brain think ???

Any self respecting service provider is going to hand over any information pertaining to an IP number alleged, by an anonymous forum poster using the handle 'MoneyMakinBrain," to have been used illegally, while simultaneously spending millions of dollars fighting the might of the Hollywood film industrys' attempts to obtain the same type of information ??

C'mon, that's so much nonsense it hardly bears repeating, much having the slightest concern over.

At least you get a choice of who to go with for internet.....I got the choice of Telstra dial up or Telstra wireless....I chose wireless and still I need to have a lead going from the USB stick out the window to a 4foot antena or I can't get a connection...

MoneyMakingBrain
03-03-2012, 02:12 AM
I do feela little left out since he feels that Lyn is everyone on the forum except me:RpS_sleep:

That's because Okosh is the Littleroundman too! (duh?):

58.165.xxx.xx - - [03/Mar/2012:00:04:13 -0500] "Get HTTP/1.1" 200 49 "http://realscam.com" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.2"

203.206.xx.xxx - - [17/Feb/2012:23:38:42 -0500] "GET HTTP/1.1" 403 185 "http://www.realscam.com" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.2"

124.169.xx.xx - - [19/Feb/2012:19:31:28 -0500] "GET HTTP/1.1" 301 254 "http://www.realscam.com" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.2

Always using a Firefox 10.02 browser with and Windows NT 5.1 OS. What are the chances of an IP be accompanied with identical Windows OS and browser right down to the same exact version? Well, in a thread that doesn't receive that many visitors like this one, zero, zilch, nada, let alone exact Gecko version.

Your demeanor and writing style is also identical to littleroundman's, and the lttleroundman is either a sock puppet or meat puppet of Lynn Edgington's, it makes no difference to the MMB. No matter how you slice this pie, pie is rotten. The level of sock puppetry on this site is off the BS scale for sure.

This phoney boloney site was set up to make Eagle Research Associates look good, says I :)

MMB

okosh
03-03-2012, 02:51 AM
That's because Okosh is the Littleroundman too! (duh?):

58.165.xx.xxx - - [03/Mar/2012:00:04:13 -0500] "Get HTTP/1.1" 200 49 "http://realscam.com" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.2"

203.206.xx.xxx - - [17/Feb/2012:23:38:42 -0500] "GET HTTP/1.1" 403 185 "http://www.realscam.com" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.2"

124.169.xx.xxx - - [19/Feb/2012:19:31:28 -0500] "GET HTTP/1.1" 301 254 "http://www.realscam.com" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.2

Always using a Firefox 10.02 browser with and Windows NT 5.1 OS. What are the chances of an IP be accompanied with identical Windows OS and browser right down to the same exact version? Well, in a thread that doesn't receive that many visitors like this one, zero, zilch, nada, let alone exact Gecko version.


LOL...YOU IDIOT......You didn't get my IP from here....You got it from me looking at your stupid blog :loser:


Your demeanor and writing style is also identical to littleroundman's, and the lttleroundman is either a sock puppet or meat puppet of Lynn Edgington's, it makes no difference to the MMB. No matter how you slice this pie, pie is rotten. The level of sock puppetry on this site is off the BS scale for sure.

This phoney boloney site was set up to make Eagle Research Associates look good, says I :)

MMB

Demeanor would be cos we both Aussies who love to slap idiots like you around on a Saturday arvo cos there's no footy to watch....

Writing style??...LOL....He's educated and I'm not....He can spell and I can't....
Yep...Both look the same to me....NOT....

MoneyMakingBrain
03-03-2012, 03:04 AM
After having read through MoronicMonkeyBrain's claims of wondrous abilitles and skills, the conclusion that can be drawn is this: The only people that will believe his drivel are those with an IQ approaching Zero.....from the underside...!

One more piece of advice Mr. Lynndel Edgington, if you're gonna be using all the socks you got at your disposal, don't be so stupidly obvious and use one that didn't join in the forum the exact same day as you did.

MMB

MoneyMakingBrain
03-03-2012, 03:42 AM
LOL...YOU IDIOT......You didn't get my IP from here....You got it from me looking at your stupid blog :loser:
Demeanor would be cos we both Aussies who love to slap idiots like you around on a Saturday arvo cos there's no footy to watch....
Writing style??...LOL....He's educated and I'm not....He can spell and I can't....
Yep...Both look the same to me....NOT....

Sorry Littleruinedman but you are the idiot if you can't understand the significance and the relevance of the information I just threw at you. It's probably hard to believe that the MMB could have infiltrated your playground like this, and you're still in denial that you are caught for being the worst admin in the history of forums. Only a coward and pathetic person would go to such lengths to create content out of thin air. If your real name is OKosh, that could be easily established by serving your ISP, court papers to compel them to reveal your name and address. I am not threatening you here. It's just the way these things are done.

If you had been a pedophile fugitive of the law, or a child porn video subscriber, I would have gotten the authorities in Perth raiding your home/office computers on a flip of a dime. As I said, the MMB is not a sanitation worker, so I'll leave that IP info on the Google blog for someone else to use it, in case it's ever needed.

There is no question in my mind that you and Lyndel (if not joined to the hip as one) had initially very good intentions in creating this forum, but you have been spewing out crap about people you don't even know lately, and it's no question in my mind that you are desperate to create content at any cost just like that reckless fear-monger Patrick Hernan. Naturally, the jury is still out on Fred Mann and his JBP, and you and PPblog can still be found to be right about him. But, you have absolutely no business to second guess the outcome using speculation and conspiracy theories in the name of justice, let alone purport to be fighting "scam". Your activities on this forum has the potential to ruin innocent people's lives, and are as dubious as the people you judge hereby.

Well guess what? I have provided you with lots of content that is backed up by the facts, not speculation. I said this from the get go: IP DETECTOR revealed egregious abuse of administrative powers on this site, and this behavior is consistent with yours. Lynn has, at least, used more than one sock puppet to create the illusion of consensus and in more than one occasion, which suggests that he too engages in sock puppetry himself.

Your mistake Littlroundman was not creating a excuse to ban me like that paranoid Patrick Hernan did,..so... as for your statement that, you let the trolls hang themselves up on your forum (I am paraphrasing here), you were the fool one here for considering the MMB one.

MMB

EagleOne
03-03-2012, 03:46 AM
Poor MMB says this in his post 361, and I quote:

"Not "everyone" Lynn, the professor is not a sock-puppeteer. And, don't second guessing my comments, another bad habit of yours. Anyway, you got no clue as to where I am going with all this or why I had to expose you for what you are: a dangerous sock puppeteer. As for who reads the MMB report - you just got no idea who does.

MMB"

But in his post #351 in response to Prof's post he says this, and again I quote:

"Well Lynn, I kind of knew that all along. I was just waiting for the moment you used the rope I gave you to hang yourself up.
And needless to say, you that fell in the trap."

sure sounds like you are calling him, errr I should say me, a sock puppet. Opps, goofed didn't you. :RpS_lol: :RpS_lol:

MoneyMakingBrain
03-03-2012, 04:12 AM
Poor MMB says this in his post 361, and I quote:

"Not "everyone" Lynn, the professor is not a sock-puppeteer. And, don't second guessing my comments, another bad habit of yours. Anyway, you got no clue as to where I am going with all this or why I had to expose you for what you are: a dangerous sock puppeteer. As for who reads the MMB report - you just got no idea who does.

MMB"

But in his post #351 in response to Prof's post he says this, and again I quote:

"Well Lynn, I kind of knew that all along. I was just waiting for the moment you used the rope I gave you to hang yourself up.
And needless to say, you that fell in the trap."

sure sounds like you are calling him, errr I should say me, a sock puppet. Opps, goofed didn't you. :RpS_lol: :RpS_lol:

Ooooh, gosh, that is gonna debunk everything I've said up to this point. LOL!
You keep grasping to straws and keep trying to deviate from the conversation. OK so I misquoted that, I but never called professor your puppet, and FYI, I can't edit stuff out on this board.

Anyway Lynn, for one day, you've done enough damage to that image of the 'honest' and 'serious' "business" research man you purport yourself to be.
Go to sleep little old man, if you are on the west coast of the USA, that is.

MMB

EagleOne
03-03-2012, 04:24 AM
Actually caught you in a lie. Bummer isn't it. But thanks for your concern, but I am a big boy and can take care of myself.

Gee, you mean you had to look at IP's to know that I am on the west coast? Too funny. My location has been posted since day one of this forum. So much for your expert investigative skills. Just like always, you are have been wrong about everything you have claimed here. But don't let the facts get in the way of your total incompetence at investigation. My two cockatiels are better at research and investigation than you are.

ProfHenryHiggins
03-03-2012, 04:33 AM
Yea...You not an internet vandal but what you are is a goose....



Nothing destroyed at all....I've known LRM for years and he is by far the most decent and honorable person I've ever met online....

You mr MMB need to wipe your chin because the **** is just dribbling out of your mouth....

You claim to be making money from the "thousands of "real" people who subscribe to the MMB. " yet you only started the blog a couple of days ago....

You claim that LRM and Lyn are the same person yet you also posted that one of the IP's is West coast USA and thw other is is here in Australia.....So how can they be same person??....

You MMB are the best walking, talking advertisement for birth control I've ever seen.....You also proof of why cousins shouldn't sleep together....


I wouldn't say that he started it only a few days ago, Okosh. He advertised it - one of the very, very few ads for it I found - in Oct. 2010. See http://www.blogcatalog.com/user/staycoolmen2006?utm_campaign=recent-readers&utm_medium=web&utm_source=widget

littleroundman
03-03-2012, 04:40 AM
The really, really, really funny thing about all of this is, he's wrong.

And, that would be wrong about everything.

AND, what's even funnier is, he's being lead along by the nose and played for an absolute fool, and yet, he doesn't realize it.

He's so far down the rabbit hole he's dug for himself, his theories are becoming more and more ludicrous by the day.

Listen carefully "MoneyMakingBrain" we AREN'T going to ban you.

We WANT you to keep posting.

In fact, we're going to keep prodding and poking your ego to make sure you keep posting.

Speaking personally, I couldn't be happier than if you or Freddie applied to subpoena our identities or, even better still, instituted court action.

Go for it.

I'm not going to attempt to prove or disprove whether or not I'm Lynne, not for one second.

I WANT you to take it further. I WANT you to keep believing your delusions.

It's fu***** hilarious watching you flail about with your childish explanations.

The longer we can keep you here spouting your nonsense, the better we can use you as an example to readers of exactly what to look out for when it comes to identifying online fraud and ESPECIALLY as a demonstration of how apparently normal people can be persuaded onto the "dark side" of the 'net by clever tricksters.

In years to come, we'll be able to simply refer back to this thread and tell readers "This is how the saying "Don't let yourself be MoneyMakingBrained by criminals" came into being.

Now, you'll have to excuse me, I have to go put on my American accent and turn into Lynne.

Damn, now you've made me lose my train of thought.

Am I supposed to be Lynne, or Heather, or am I Okosh next and THEN Lynne ??

MoneyMakingBrain
03-03-2012, 04:52 AM
Actually caught you in a lie. Bummer isn't it. But thanks for your concern, but I am a big boy and can take care of myself.

Gee, you mean you had to look at IP's to know that I am on the west coast? Too funny. My location has been posted since day one of this forum. So much for your expert investigative skills. Just like always, you are have been wrong about everything you have claimed here. But don't let the facts get in the way of your total incompetence at investigation. My two cockatiels are better at research and investigation than you are.

Well, I wouldn't believe what you say because you are professional liar. Anyway, in case you haven't noticed, this isn't about your location, Lynn, and your defense hinged on the theory that you were supposed to be a respected and an 'honest' man, which I have demonstrated you are not. So, your location to the MMB is irrelevant, your actions, however, are of a highly deceptive guy and I wouldn't be surprised if you are currently engaged in other unethical, maybe even illegal activities. Is there a reason why PayPal is not allowing Eagle Research Associates PP account to be used for donations anymore? Right, like you are gonna tell anyone the truth.

MMB

littleroundman
03-03-2012, 04:53 AM
My two cockatiels are better at research and investigation than you are.

But, but, but how can that be.

I've only got one cockatiel, and if I'm you, I should have two.

Bummer, now I'm gonna have to spend my whole Saturday night searching for the other one.

BUT WAIT !!

If I'm you, then it's not Saturday night. If I'm you it's 1.48am Saturday morning and not 5.48pm Saturday evening.

So why did I just cover the cockatiels' cage ???

I could have sworn my timezone is GMT + 8.00

Owwwwwwwwww......the Brain has me sooooooooooooo confused.


NOT !

EagleOne
03-03-2012, 05:12 AM
MMB: Don't worry about our PayPal account. You will be able to donate shortly. But thanks for your concern.

MoneyMakingBrain
03-03-2012, 05:17 AM
Littleroundman, that's by far the stupidest thing any admin would ever say even to an anonymous "troll". You spew more crap, and talk about more garbage than the slums of India and Haiti combined. Fact is, you are either in denial of the data I left for you or an ignorant for not understanding it, but that's only the tip of the iceberg of your activities. You don't understand it, but it shows you posting with multiple IP's and with different user accounts but from one computer, and that's administrative corruption.

Even the fact that Lynn appears to be losing sleep from all this, and 'magically' and against all odds, he is posting always with you here and Patrick's blog, is not a big, but a HUGE red flag. Obviously, I am not gonna subpenaed you or Lynn for being sock puppeteers or internet liars, but it's a good idea to warn people of the joke this forum is. Ans, in all likelihood, it was designed to highlight Lynn and his EagleOne company, or at least that's the apparent motive.

MMB


The really, really, really funny thing about all of this is, he's wrong.

And, that would be wrong about everything.

AND, what's even funnier is, he's being lead along by the nose and played for an absolute fool, and yet, he doesn't realize it.

He's so far down the rabbit hole he's dug for himself, his theories are becoming more and more ludicrous by the day.

Listen carefully "MoneyMakingBrain" we AREN'T going to ban you.

We WANT you to keep posting.

In fact, we're going to keep prodding and poking your ego to make sure you keep posting.

Speaking personally, I couldn't be happier than if you or Freddie applied to subpoena our identities or, even better still, instituted court action.

Go for it.

I'm not going to attempt to prove or disprove whether or not I'm Lynne, not for one second.

I WANT you to take it further. I WANT you to keep believing your delusions.

It's fu***** hilarious watching you flail about with your childish explanations.

The longer we can keep you here spouting your nonsense, the better we can use you as an example to readers of exactly what to look out for when it comes to identifying online fraud and ESPECIALLY as a demonstration of how apparently normal people can be persuaded onto the "dark side" of the 'net by clever tricksters.

In years to come, we'll be able to simply refer back to this thread and tell readers "This is how the saying "Don't let yourself be MoneyMakingBrained by criminals" came into being.

Now, you'll have to excuse me, I have to go put on my American accent and turn into Lynne.

Damn, now you've made me lose my train of thought.

Am I supposed to be Lynne, or Heather, or am I Okosh next and THEN Lynne ??

littleroundman
03-03-2012, 05:55 AM
But what if we DO want you to keep posting ??

(and, believe me, we do)

Tell you what, can you PLEASE, PLEASE post the data showing me posting from 2 places, pretty please.

I just GOTTA see this.

I won't be able to sleep tonight not knowing how I'm supposedly doing this.

[secret message] Lynne, let's get our stories straight. Those pictures of the author, Lynne Edgington, did we end up deciding to use the pix of me being you, or you being me ?[/end secret message]


Littleroundman, that's by far the stupidest thing any admin would ever say even to an anonymous "troll".

If you think that's the most stupid thing an admin has ever said to an anonymous troll, you really DO need to get out more.

Stick around, there's plenty more stupid things where THAT came from.

Meanwhile, back on topic:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/rinse.jpg

littleroundman
03-03-2012, 06:16 AM
You don't understand it, but it shows you posting with multiple IP's and with different user accounts but from one computer, and that's administrative corruption.

HaHaHaHa-bloody-Ha.

Administrative corruption.

That's a good one.

Psst, just quietly, does anyone have any idea what administrative corruption has to do with the running of a privately funded internet forum ??

BTW, I'm still waiting for MoneyMakingBrains' and his magical IP tracing capabilities to show me my multiple accounts.

Failing the production of said proof, one might think MoneyMakingBrain is talking from the wrong end of his anatomy.

MoneyMakingBrain
03-03-2012, 04:30 PM
Littleruinedman,

I can't help you if your thinking comes from the wrong end of your anatomy, On your BEST day you're not as smart as I am on my worst day. If you live to be a
hundred you will never be as smart as me. My grandma always told me; beauty fades, but dumb is forever!

I have converted IP Detector's time references to your time, so your brain can easily understand how this thing works:

I came to RS to post in your forum on February 17 5:23 AM (your time), right?
http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://www.realscam.com/f8/justbeenpaid-810/index10.html

You approved my post and replied on February 18, 12:15 AM (see exhibit #1):

203.206.xx.xxx - - [18/Feb/2012:12:15:04] "GET HTTP/1.1" 403 185 "http://www.realscam.com/newreply.php?do=postreply&t=810" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.2"


So, we can easily establish that you are the guy who uses the FireFox browser version 10.0.2 with an old NT 5.1 OS computer, right?

Now, if I can establish beyond any doubt that you use multiple accounts to perform this sock puppeteer's deception of yours, then you are guilty as charged, and one can assume that you can be anybody, including Lynn. But remember, just being his 'meat puppet' is bad and dishonest enough.

Now, going back to the first day, when "Whip" shows up and posts at 12:31 PM. It's a one liner (very short comment), so the only possible user who could have seen the new posts would have been someone before that time frame:

And who that user was? YOU, of course! (see exhibit #2):

203.206.xx.xxx - - [17/Feb/2012:12:20:22] "GET HTTP/1.1" 403 185 "http://www.realscam.com/newreply.php?do=postreply&t=810" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.2"

AND HERE YOU ARE VIEWING THE THREAD AND REPLYING TO YOURSELF (POST #239) AT 12:33pm and responded at 12:38PM (see exhibit #3):

203.206.xxx.xxx- - [17/Feb/2012:12:33:11] "GET HTTP/1.1" 403 185 "http://www.realscam.com/f8/justbeenpaid-810/index10.html" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.2"
203.206.xx.xxx - - [17/Feb/2012:12:33:41] "GET HTTP/1.1" 403 185 "http://www.realscam.com/newreply.php?do=postreply&t=810" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.2"
203.206.xx.xxx - - [17/Feb/2012:12:38:42] "GET HTTP/1.1" 403 185 "http://www.realscam.com/newreply.php?do=postreply&t=810" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.2"


You like to use the preview function a lot, don't you?


Now in your 'defense', the only users besides you and I, who saw those two posts between 12:15 PM and 12:31 PM on February 17 were only two people: one user from Edmonton, Canada and another one from New Jersey (see exhibit #4):

161.184.xx.xxx - - [17/Feb/2012:12:18:20] "GET HTTP/1.1" 200 49 "http://www.realscam.com/f8/justbeenpaid-810/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.0; Trident/4.0; GTB7.2; SLCC1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; Media Center PC 5.0; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET4.0C; .NET CLR 3.0.30729)"

71.48.xx.xxx - - [17/Feb/2012:12:28:59] "GET HTTP/1.1" 200 49 "http://www.realscam.com/f8/justbeenpaid-810/" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.26) Gecko/20120128 Firefox/3.6.26"


So, you could argue that one of these two users could have been "Whip", right? Well, the closest user present around the time when Whip's post appeared, was the one from New Jersey at (12:28PM). However, Whip didn't make one, but two posts; between 12:31 PM and 1:07 AM, (now February the 18th).

So, in order to prove that any of these two users was "whip", either 161.184.96.209 or 71.48.99.180 would have had to be detected more than once within that time frame. But unfortunately for you, that was never the case and in fact, you were the most active in that thread and constantly refreshing your browser. So, also by this process of elimination I can determine and verify that you were posting as Whip. You can confirm this data exhibits with your host's web logs, it should all match.

So, LittleRoundMan or whoever the heel you are, that's just an example of how IP DETECTOR works and believe me, I am only showing the tip of the iceberg here; sock puppetry coming from your site is at an unprecedented level and way off the BS scale.

I recommend you seek mental therapy at once, before you start talking to the wrong end of your anatomy.

I can also detect even when you try to post, then change your mind, using any of your dynamic IP addresses (see exhibit #5):

124.150.xx.xx - - [21/Feb/2012:22:12:14] "GET HTTP/1.1" 301 254 "http://www.realscam.com/newreply.php?do=postreply&t=810" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.2"


Indeed your IP is dynamic. iiNet appears to be the ISP of choice for crooks and spammers:
Day Eight: AFACT solicitor grilled on ISP disconnections - iTnews (http://www.itnews.com.au/Tools/Print.aspx?CIID=158286)

In fact here is your list of current IP's:
203.206.69.xxx
203.59.158.xx
124.169.230.xx
124.169.56.xxx

Okosh?
58.165.172.xx

All of them appear to come from the same computer. While I am not 100% sure that OKosh it's really you, it would be a bizarre coincidence that he uses the same exact OS and and browser, right down to the exact versions. Since his rants and diatribes are almost identical to yours, hey, you decide! :)

But, you are right that this is a privately funded site. It's primarily Lynn Edgington's scam forum (maybe even Patrick Pretty is in on this) designed to highlight his company Eagle Research Associates. Hopefully the IRS audits him, since PayPal already suspects him of being, in his own right, a scammer. PayPal knows when some merchants are very suspicious. As I said from the get go, The MBB makes no distinctions between sock puppets and meat puppets.

So "LRM", please don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining. This is a real scam forum because of you. Thanks for helping the MMB create content out of thin air. The MMB never had to contend with a dumber sock puppeteer than you. Do you feel as if you're getting the wrong end of your anatomy whipped? (LOL!) You sure are!

MMB

MoneyMakingBrain
03-03-2012, 05:30 PM
Don't forget to read MMB public blog:

Creating Content Out of Thin Air: LittleDumbMan : Check Mate (http://moneymakinbrain.blogspot.com/2012/03/littledumbman-check-mate.html)

Keep feeding this "troll", you dumb admin. :)

MMB

MoneyMakingBrain
03-03-2012, 05:38 PM
And for those who can't still understand anything from the logs data I posted above, much less believe the "littledumbroundman" could be so stupid playing like that on his 'own' forum, just take a look at Whip's account creation date:

View Profile: Whip - RealScam.com - Is it, or isn't it? You Decide. (http://www.realscam.com/members/whip/)

Exact same date. What are the odds?

MMB

Lil Ol' Radical Me
03-03-2012, 05:58 PM
Originally Posted by littleroundman
The really, really, really funny thing about all of this is, he's wrong.

.....[lots of antipodean stuff].....

Am I supposed to be Lynne, or Heather, or am I Okosh next and THEN Lynne ??

I get it... after all these posts you are really..........drum roll..........NOT Don.. Not one single one of you.....

ÇI don't care what your IP address is, whetyher its hidden, proxied, dynamic or simplyworn out, you are NOT Don. None of you.

Next question:

Does it matter who you are?

Answer: No

Relevance of Answer: None

Next Question:

How does Fred Mann manage to generate 2% per day when he is not doing any trading, investing, or has any outside source of revenue other than new people joining, people compounding their earnings, and reinvesting.?

Answer: Looks like a scam to most, but anyone defending him will know the answer if it is legitimate (unless they are total idiots)

Relevance of answer: Significant if you wish to defend Fred Mann against accusations of running what is a prima facie illegal ponzi scheme.

Eliza Doolittle
03-03-2012, 06:08 PM
Blimey, that MMB, he's got it, by George he's got it!

MoneyMakingBrain
03-03-2012, 06:20 PM
You are dumber than dumb. Get a load of "radical" guy now:

View Profile: Lil Ol' Radical Me - RealScam.com - Is it, or isn't it? You Decide. (http://www.realscam.com/members/lil-ol-radical-me/)

Join date is the exact date as littledumbman's

You are the most pathetic and stubborn sock puppeteer I've encountered. Coming to your own defense to save face and with B, desperately trying to change the subject to poor ole devil Fred Mann it's classic LRM. LOL! You're insane to the membrane, seek help, Sir.

BTW, before you correct me;


You approved my post and replied on February 18, 12:15 AM (see exhibit #1):
That's PM not AM (12:15 PM). I forgot to turn the clock to PM there.

BTW, How many more puppets did you create on June 23, 2010? LOL!

MMB



I get it... after all these posts you are really..........drum roll..........NOT Don.. Not one single one of you.....

ÇI don't care what your IP address is, whetyher its hidden, proxied, dynamic or simplyworn out, you are NOT Don. None of you.

Next question:

Does it matter who you are?

Answer: No

Relevance of Answer: None

Next Question:

How does Fred Mann manage to generate 2% per day when he is not doing any trading, investing, or has any outside source of revenue other than new people joining, people compounding their earnings, and reinvesting.?

Answer: Looks like a scam to most, but anyone defending him will know the answer if it is legitimate (unless they are total idiots)

Relevance of answer: Significant if you wish to defend Fred Mann against accusations of running what is a prima facie illegal ponzi scheme.

MoneyMakingBrain
03-03-2012, 06:28 PM
Blimey, that MMB, he's got it, by George he's got it!

Congratulations Eliza! You've just made history on this crackpot forum by being the fastest comments ever approved by administration. Bhaa- Ha, ha

MMB

ProfHenryHiggins
03-03-2012, 06:29 PM
Would that also have been the day the site was created, perhaps?

It did split off from the older Scam.com during a schism, you know.

Lil Ol' Radical Me
03-03-2012, 06:31 PM
You are dumber than dumb. Get a load of "radical" guy now:

View Profile: Lil Ol' Radical Me - RealScam.com - Is it, or isn't it? You Decide. (http://www.realscam.com/members/lil-ol-radical-me/)

Join date is the exact date as littledumbman's

You are the most pathetic and stubborn sock puppeteer I've encountered. Coming to your own defense to save face and with B, desperately trying to change the subject to poor ole devil Fred Mann it's classic LRM. LOL! You're insane to the membrane, seek help, Sir.

BTW, before you correct me;


That's PM not AM (12:15 PM). I forgot to turn the clock to PM there.

BTW, How many more puppets did you create on June 23, 2010? LOL!

MMB

Bingo! I joined when the forum started, same as the rest of you. So that means I am LittleRoundMan! Good Grief!


Coming to your own defense to save face and with B, desperately trying to change the subject to poor ole devil Fred Mann

Duh - THAT'S what this thread is about - the Just Been Paid by Fred Mann. Not who is who in cyber space.

So could you please provide the facts that answer the original question "justbeenpaid" "Real or Scam?"

baylee
03-03-2012, 06:34 PM
Well, I wouldn't believe what you say because you are professional liar. Anyway, in case you haven't noticed, this isn't about your location, Lynn, and your defense hinged on the theory that you were supposed to be a respected and an 'honest' man, which I have demonstrated you are not. So, your location to the MMB is irrelevant, your actions, however, are of a highly deceptive guy and I wouldn't be surprised if you are currently engaged in other unethical, maybe even illegal activities. Is there a reason why PayPal is not allowing Eagle Research Associates PP account to be used for donations anymore? Right, like you are gonna tell anyone the truth.

MMB

My, My, My, drain, how you do go on and on and on!

MoneyMakingBrain
03-03-2012, 06:53 PM
Bingo! I joined when the forum started, same as the rest of you. So that means I am LittleRoundMan! Good Grief!

Do you really think people are that stupid to believe in all these weird coincidences? You expect people to believe that it's normal that all the socks that joined the forum on June 23, 2010 will wake up at the same time and come to the littledumbman's rescue? Do you deny the truth from the data I submitted? Obviously, you can't handle the truth! You are not addressing any of it. But before you decided that I was a poor dumb, brainless, child, etc, etc, and you were begging me to "SHOW, PLEASE SHOW YOU", you said , where you have been in 2 places! But now, it's convenient to talk about poor ole devil Fred Mann. LOL!!
Frankly, I am still not 100%, sure that I got the whole picture, although you and Lynn are confirmed sock puppeteers, there is more abuse on this forum and you can read, matter of fact, everyone you should read my public blog, why don't you? Afraid of a little public Google blogs? Only cowards and dumb sock puppeteers would have a problem with that.

MMB

Soapboxmom
03-03-2012, 06:57 PM
MMB,

For the love of mud you are bad at this. The owner, adminrealscam, joined on 6/15/2010. GlimDropper and I signed on the next day. The public was invited to join on 6/23/2010. We opened our doors early as Scam.com was once again down. We announced the opening on Quatloos and other boards across the net. I personally invited littleroundman and EagleOne onboard to help run this place much later on. It is a privilege and great honor to have them here. You, my little crackpot, are the current floor show, so carry on!

Soapboxmom

Soapboxmom
03-03-2012, 07:02 PM
25 members joined before the end of the day on 6/23/2010. Some coincidence Einstein. Now, back to substantiation of the earnings claimed.

Soapboxmom

ProfHenryHiggins
03-03-2012, 07:05 PM
Do you really think people are that stupid to believe in all these weird coincidences? You expect people to believe that it's normal that all the socks that joined the forum on June 23, 2010 will wake up at the same time and come to the littledumbman's rescue? Do you deny the truth from the data I submitted? Obviously, you can't handle the truth! You are not addressing any of it. But before you decided that I was a poor dumb, brainless, child, etc, etc, and you were begging me to "SHOW, PLEASE SHOW YOU", you said , where you have been in 2 places! But now, it's convenient to talk about poor ole devil Fred Mann. LOL!!
Frankly, I am still not 100%, sure that I got the whole picture, although you and Lynn are confirmed sock puppeteers, there is more abuse on this forum and you can read, matter of fact, everyone you should read my public blog, why don't you? Afraid of a little public Google blogs? Only cowards and dumb sock puppeteers would have a problem with that.

MMB


You certainly do not get "the whole picture."
Why do you find it hard to believe that people who have been watching fraudulent financial schemes come and go for much of a decade have developed a feel for the signs of a swindle in progress? You couldn't believe that on Patrick's forum, and you can't seem to grasp that concept here, regarding JustBeenPaid and the numerous similarities to past schemes that proved to be illegal. 12DailyPro comes to mind as one example.

And you seem to have jumped to a conclusion, then refused to consider any evidence to the contrary of it, much like many conspiracy theorists and religiously dogmatic pundits do. In the meantime, this demon is watching your soul drift towards Naraka. Better get to doing more virtuous deeds to compensate for that, Samy.

Lil Ol' Radical Me
03-03-2012, 07:06 PM
Would that also have been the day the site was created, perhaps?

It did split off from the older Scam.com during a schism, you know.

schism, schprism....holy cow man, it was a Movement!

Lil Ol' Radical Me
03-03-2012, 07:19 PM
Hey MMB. RealScam opened for public membership on the Twenty Third day of the month of June in the year of our Lord Two Thousand and Ten.

No one here is the slightest bit worried what you think about the IP addresses they post from nor the names they use, any more than most of us care who you are behind the name of Money Making Brain. (Bernard Maddoff had one of those and it earned him 125 years of jail time, so maybe another nickname might be a better choice)

Any business or program discussed here will stand or fall on its merits. It is irrelevant who says it. It never changes the math.

If Just Been Paid is legitimate and sustainable, then it will be just that. So far, no one has been able to answer the simple question as to HOW Fred Mann manages to pay 2% per day to investors without being a ponzi which pays out of new investor funds as it has yet to show any visible outside source of income, and 2% per day is higher than any legitimate long or medium term investment return in history

So please, find out the answer to that question, if you don't know yourself (in spite of your spirited defense of one Frederick Mann). Then maybe this thread will be of some value.

MoneyMakingBrain
03-03-2012, 07:41 PM
MMB,

For the love of mud you are bad at this. The owner, adminrealscam, joined on 6/15/2010. GlimDropper and I signed on the next day. The public was invited to join on 6/23/2010. We opened our doors early as Scam.com was once again down. We announced the opening on Quatloos and other boards across the net. I personally invited littleroundman and EagleOne onboard to help run this place much later on. It is a privilege and great honor to have them here. You, my little crackpot, are the current floor show, so carry on!

Soapboxmom

Do you really believe that what your type is the truth because you say so? I have no no clue as to who you are. You are a nobody, with the title of "admin" on a corrupt crackpot forum. It's you word against mine, another unknown person (regardless of who the professor says I am). Only, I got something you don't have, and that is a access to your own web logs, something you apparently don't even understand.

MMB

littleroundman
03-03-2012, 07:52 PM
Hot damn, this is funny.

All that work, all that evidence, and, dare I say it, all that huffing and puffing, and he's STILL wrong.

All of that, and not one, single, solitary conclusion is anywhere near the truth.

Carry on Brain, p-u-h-l-e-a-s-e carry on.

baylee
03-03-2012, 07:56 PM
Do you really believe that what your type is the truth because you say so? I have no no clue as to who you are. You are a nobody, with the title of "admin" on a corrupt crackpot forum. It's you word against mine, another unknown person (regardless of who the professor says I am). Only, I got something you don't have, and that is a access to your own web logs, something you apparently don't even understand.

MMB

Come on drain, tell us the Truth You really are AlGore and have invented the internet!!!

littleroundman
03-03-2012, 08:00 PM
Uh Oh, I've found another sock puppet.

It must be Lynne again, he's the author around here, and it's believed this first appeared in print around 1840, so Lynnes' age is about right, as well

Here ya go:


The Story of the Three Little Pigs. http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/eng/eft/eft15.htm (http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/eng/eft/eft15.htm)

Well, he huffed, and he puffed, and he huffed and he puffed, and he puffed and huffed; but he could not get the house down. When he found that he could not, with all his huffing and puffing, blow the house down, he said:

baylee
03-03-2012, 08:10 PM
Uh Oh, I've found another sock puppet.

It must be Lynne again, he's the author around here, and it's believed this first appeared in print around 1840, so Lynnes' age is about right, as well

Here ya go:

LOL, Naaa, Surely he's not that old!!!!!

Lil Ol' Radical Me
03-03-2012, 08:16 PM
LOL, Naaa, Surely he's not that old!!!!!

Heck, I heard a rumor that he was older!

littleroundman
03-03-2012, 08:24 PM
BRAIN, BRAIN,

QUICK !!!

Get out that magical IP tracer, Lynnes' at it again.

This time he's pretending to be a reporter on Vanity Fair:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/huffing.jpg

If we use a bit of MoneyMakingBrainlogic here, we can easily prove it's just another sock puppet.

Lynne =Author

Reporter = sort of author

Conclusion = Lynne wrote the Vanity Fair article, because he once used the expression "Huffing and Puffing" AND he's written something before

littleroundman
03-03-2012, 08:48 PM
LOL, Naaa, Surely he's not that old!!!!!

Let me tell you, Brain has used his incredible skills to reveal that Lynne was a cheerleader way back when Billy Shakespeare played quarterback for the Old England Patriots.

Ask the Brain, he knows all.

baylee
03-03-2012, 09:07 PM
Let me tell you, Brain has used his incredible skills to reveal that Lynne was a cheerleader way back when Billy Shakespeare played quarterback for the Old England Patriots.

Ask the Brain, he knows all.

I conferred with the Magic Eight Ball and asked it if the 'brain' knows all and it said "OUTLOOK NOT SO GOOD". That ain't a good sign for THE DRAIN.

okosh
03-03-2012, 09:30 PM
If your real name is OKosh, that could be easily established by serving your ISP, court papers to compel them to reveal your name and address. I am not threatening you here. It's just the way these things are done.

MMB

Bring it on goose....

LOL...Nothing more funny then a ponzi pimp/shill like MMB and his threats to take legal action.....

okosh
03-03-2012, 09:36 PM
Littleruinedman,

I came to RS to post in your forum on February 17 5:23 AM (your time), right?
http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://www.realscam.com/f8/justbeenpaid-810/index10.html

You approved my post and replied on February 18, 12:15 AM (see exhibit #1):

203.206.xx.xxx - - [18/Feb/2012:12:15:04] "GET HTTP/1.1" 403 185 "http://www.realscam.com/newreply.php?do=postreply&t=810" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.2"


So, we can easily establish that you are the guy who uses the FireFox browser version 10.0.2 with an old NT 5.1 OS computer, right?


So let me see if I follow your logic here.....Firefox create a browser....But you expect that only one person in the world should use it....If 2 people post and they both use firefox then they must be the same person
Did I miss anything???????....

Whip
03-03-2012, 09:40 PM
So let me see if I follow your logic here.....Firefox create a browser....But you expect that only one person in the world should use it....If 2 people post and they both use firefox then they must be the same person
Did I miss anything???????....
I guess I should use a different browser. lol.

littleroundman
03-03-2012, 10:28 PM
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/rinse.jpg

Eddie Haskell
03-03-2012, 10:29 PM
So let me see if I follow your logic here.....Firefox create a browser....But you expect that only one person in the world should use it....If 2 people post and they both use firefox then they must be the same person
Did I miss anything???????....

He is an idiot but its fun to watch this.

okosh
03-03-2012, 11:24 PM
I guess I should use a different browser. lol.

Yes but will be hard for you to find one that no one else uses....

Also I notice you joined this forum in June 2010....So that means you also LRM....

Eddie Haskell
03-03-2012, 11:41 PM
Yes but will be hard for you to find one that no one else uses....

Also I notice you joined this forum in June 2010....So that means you also LRM....


NO BS, I am LRM, and LYnn dang you.

littleroundman
03-03-2012, 11:51 PM
NO BS, I am LRM, and LYnn dang you.

I gotta tell ya, I am s-o-o-o-o-o athamed and embarathed,

For more than 20 years, I have been workingon at being an arrogant, pigheaded, sarcastic, illmannered, condescending, patronizing, know-it-all ocker, cobber, bonza, blue, Australian lout, then, along comes MoneyMakingBrain, and, in one foul swoop reveals that littleroundman is, in reality, a mild mannered American Christian author.

s---i---g---h

back to the drawing board, I guess.

EagleOne
03-04-2012, 01:11 AM
Is there anybody posting in this thread that is not me according to mmb? I can't keep with all my identities. Pretty soon I will have more than Sybil ever did.

So, mmb help me out here. Give me the list of everyone who posts here that are me. And you are sure this is really me, and I'm not really someone else?

littleroundman
03-04-2012, 01:19 AM
Poor Lynne must be busier than a one legged man in an ass kicking contest keeping up with all these personalities, switching proxies and different writing and spelling styles.

EagleOne
03-04-2012, 04:34 AM
What has been really funny with all of mush-mushbrains posts about all the people who have posted in this thread being me, is that he claims location is not important, but only the IP addresses are.

So for all of you who have not been able to follow all of his contorted, idiotic and twisted logic, let me simplify it for you. He claims that all the posters in this thread are me. He specifically said that littleroundman and myself are one and the same person. Now stop and think about this for just a minute. I am in the Western part of the United States, and littleroundman is in Australia. Now according to mush-mushbrains I have to be able to be in the Western part of the US and in Australia all at the same time; which is not possible. But it does not end there, and now he is claiming almost everyone who posts in this thread are me. The other people who post in this thread he claims are me, several are in Europe, Okosh is in Australia, some are on the East Coast of the US, some are in the Southwest US, but they are all me and I am posting as all of these persons at the almost identical same time. Yeah, location is not important to mush-mushbrains because all of his pontification goes up in smoke when you add in the locations I would have to be in at the exact same time to post.

Me thinks he has been reading to many sci-fi novels, or watching too many sci-fi movies about time travel. Yet he is not a liar, but I am. Well, he claims he has exposed me as a liar, when all he has done has been to show how ignorant, inept, and incompetent he truly is with all of his blather and total nonsense. He has not been right about one thing he has posted. All he has accomplished has been to show how ignorant and an idiot he truly is. Everything he has posted is all huffing and puffing, stewing and spewing, all lies, and total BS.

Now I can't wait for his pathetic rebuttal to how location does not matter and it is not important, but his fantasy IP tracking is all that matters. I guess I should write myself up in scientific journals since I can be in multiple locations around the world all at the same time. Someone let the village know we found their idiot.

MoneyMakingBrain
03-04-2012, 05:00 AM
Your logic is flawed and you too ignore what I said about "Whip" in my post (conveniently brought down to the last two pages by the "users"). You also ignore COMPLETELY my asking you too explain how you knew that I have said to Patrick Hernan that user "laidback" is also a sock puppet. Lynn even if you leave to be one hundred, you'll never be as smart as me.

You are obviously unable to sleep because of all this. That, or you are somewhere else in the world. Indeed IP addresses tell a story, and location is irrelevant, you got that right, but don't forget that attached to each IP, there are other identifiers, that is, if you have access to site logs ;)

And you won't be believe how much information one can extract on each single post you make (it's called psychology). You are a bad guy Lynn, you don't fool the MMB. I am calling your bluff on this "forum". And why is PayPal denying you service?

https://www.eagleresearchassociates.org/payment.php

Is it maybe that you're refusing to provide them with your company's tax ID number, per new online regulations? Inquiry minds need to know. :)

MMB





What has been really funny with all of mush-mushbrains posts about all the people who have posted in this thread being me, is that he claims location is not important, but only the IP addresses are.

So for all of you who have not been able to follow all of his contorted, idiotic and twisted logic, let me simplify it for you. He claims that all the posters in this thread are me. He specifically said that littleroundman and myself are one and the same person. Now stop and think about this for just a minute. I am in the Western part of the United States, and littleroundman is in Australia. Now according to mush-mushbrains I have to be able to be in the Western part of the US and in Australia all at the same time; which is not possible. But it does not end there, and now he is claiming almost everyone who posts in this thread are me. The other people who post in this thread he claims are me, several are in Europe, Okosh is in Australia, some are on the East Coast of the US, some are in the Southwest US, but they are all me and I am posting as all of these persons at the almost identical same time. Yeah, location is not important to mush-mushbrains because all of his pontification goes up in smoke when you add in the locations I would have to be in at the exact same time to post.

Me thinks he has been reading to many sci-fi novels, or watching too many sci-fi movies about time travel. Yet he is not a liar, but I am. Well, he claims he has exposed me as a liar, when all he has done has been to show how ignorant, inept, and incompetent he truly is with all of his blather and total nonsense. He has not been right about one thing he has posted. All he has accomplished has been to show how ignorant and an idiot he truly is. Everything he has posted is all huffing and puffing, stewing and spewing, all lies, and total BS.

Now I can't wait for his pathetic rebuttal to how location does not matter and it is not important, but his fantasy IP tracking is all that matters. I guess I should write myself up in scientific journals since I can be in multiple locations around the world all at the same time. Someone let the village know we found their idiot.

MoneyMakingBrain
03-04-2012, 05:13 AM
BTW, you can read all my posts at RS and free of typos here :)

Creating Content Out of Thin Air: Lynn "Desperado" Edgington: no escape (http://moneymakinbrain.blogspot.com/2012/03/lynn-desperado-edgington-no-escape.html)

MMB

littleroundman
03-04-2012, 05:41 AM
And you won't be believe how much information one can extract on each single post you make

Oh, but we DO, Brain, we DO know.

We also know INFORMATION is one thing and ACCURACY is another.

How do I know you are downright lying about what you know and don't know ???

Simple.

I'm in Australia.

I've always been in Australia.

I've never used a proxy on REALSCAM.com (www.realscam.com) nor do I need to.

I KNOW these things.

You, on the other hand, are guessing.

Every single world to the contrary that comes from your keyboard is an absolute lie.

But, carry on in your fantasy world.

For the moment, at least, it's entertaining.

MoneyMakingBrain
03-04-2012, 05:57 AM
Oh, but we DO, Brain, we DO know.

We also know INFORMATION is one thing and ACCURACY is another.

How do I know you are downright lying about what you know and don't know ???

Simple.

I'm in Australia.

I've always been in Australia.

I've never used a proxy on REALSCAM.com (www.realscam.com) nor do I need to.

I KNOW these things.

You, on the other hand, are guessing.

Every single world to the contrary that comes from your keyboard is an absolute lie.

But, carry on in your fantasy world.

For the moment, at least, it's entertaining.

You are still in denial, aren't you?
Well, it's time I call on your bluffing, huffing and puffing.
How about this?
Ask your host to send you (if you got no access, of course) your web logs dated February 17 and 18, of 2012. They should be encoded as .GZ archive files. They can't be tampered with (otherwise the date of the archive would be changed as well). So, we open them up and, it should reveal what happened on the 17 , the day I came to post at RS. They should also match each post I said took place on that date.
So, you post the link for me to download that .GZ file, and we both compare records.
But, you know we will open up a can of worms, don't you?
Do you really want to go there?

MMB

littleroundman
03-04-2012, 06:03 AM
Do you really want to go there?

MMB

Absolutely, go there, with my blessing.

You keep saying things and producing irrelevant "facts" as if any of it actually means anything.

I'm in Western Australia.

My host is iinet.

I'm not Lynne.

You haven't got one shred of "real" evidence that says otherwise.

Everything else is stuff and nonsense

MoneyMakingBrain
03-04-2012, 06:19 AM
Oh, I wanted to add this extra "entertaining" explanation for you, "LittleDumbBrain":

The final way to track user sessions is through the IP address of the visitor. Every record in the log file contains an IP address, as this is how the server knows where to send the information that has been requested. The limitation to counting unique IP addresses, however, is that many Internet Service Providers and companies use various methods that skew the analysis. Some organizations use dynamic ISP addressing where an IP address can be determined dynamically when a user logs in, through the use of firewalls, or by a load-balancing device. Others, such as iiNet, filter all data so it comes through an intermediate proxy server. In this case, the Web server sends the requests not to the individual requestor, but to the proxy server of the ISP. The information is then sent on to the actual visitor, but with the source address of the proxy server. That's why crooks and spammers, like you, love that ISP. One thing that doesn't get filtered though, it's your browser and computer OS information. So, the fact that you don't use proxy software to connect is irrelevant to this case, the fact that you use multiple accounts is.

You should have banned me when you had an excuse like Patrick did.

MMB


You are still in denial, aren't you?
Well, it's time I call on your bluffing, huffing and puffing.
How about this?
Ask your host to send you (if you got no access, of course) your web logs dated February 17 and 18, of 2012. They should be encoded as .GZ archive files. They can't be tampered with (otherwise the date of the archive would be changed as well). So, we open them up and, it should reveal what happened on the 17 , the day I came to post at RS. They should also match each post I said took place on that date.
So, you post the link for me to download that .GZ file, and we both compare records.
But, you know we will open up a can of worms, don't you?
Do you really want to go there?

MMB

MoneyMakingBrain
03-04-2012, 06:23 AM
Absolutely, go there, with my blessing.

Great! When will you post that .GZ log archive file?

MMB

littleroundman
03-04-2012, 06:34 AM
Great! When will you post that .GZ log archive file?

MMB

Why would I jump through hoops to satisfy the whims of a fool ???

All your crapping on about hackers and spammers and iinet and IP numbers and log files doesn't mean a damned thing.

I'm in Western Australia.

My host is iinet.

I'm not Lynne.

You haven't got one shred of "real" evidence that says otherwise.

Everything else is stuff and nonsense

Oh, and FYI, iinet just recently announced it has become the second largest provider of DSL in Australia.

Are you seriously suggesting that's because of its' use of proxy servers ??

Also FYI, I've been a customer of Iinet for over 17 years, when it was just a startup company being operated from the founders' mothers' garage.

Are you suggesting my psychic powers are so well tuned I joined the company because I knew that 17 years in the future I'd be needing to trick an know-nothing fool into thinking I am someone else ??

Stuff and nonsense on top of even MORE stuff and nonsense.

Carry on.

MoneyMakingBrain
03-04-2012, 07:16 AM
Why would I jump through hoops to satisfy the whims of a fool ???

All your crapping on about hackers and spammers and iinet and IP numbers and log files doesn't mean a damned thing.

You are dead wrong! And, you got the opportunity to make the MMB look like a dumb ass and you don't take it?

Proving that you didn't use "Whip" on the 17th would have debunked everything I've been saying all along, silly. But, what else can one expect from a coward and liar? Your ISP is irrelevant to the case, what you did on the 17th (using two user accounts) is.

MMB

Lil Ol' Radical Me
03-04-2012, 07:18 AM
I have to admit that I feel rather sorry for MMB (Quite apart from the fact that he would fail any IT exam on the realities of IP tracing ) He has clearly been taken in by JustBeenPaid and believes Mann to be a latter day saint or Warren Buffet clone. (Or, he is a master of the art of distraction, as he has successfully diverted the conversation away from Just Been Paid and has entertained us for pages over Lynn's multiple personalities and then I am not so sorry for him).

MMB I am going to spell it out for you....

IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO ACHIEVE A SUSTAINABLE RETURN ON INVESTMENT OF 2% PER DAY IN ANY LEGAL BUSINESS. IT HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BY THE GREATEST MONEY MAKING BRAINS IN HISTORY AND NEVER WILL BE.

So JustBeenPaid is (a) a scam with an uniformed promoter who cant figure out where the money comes from (b) a legitimate business of the kind never ever seen before with an uninformed promoter who cant figure out where the money comes from and everyone, including CONSOB are just clones of Lynn at Eagle Research Associates.

littleroundman
03-04-2012, 07:31 AM
And, on top of that,

I'm in Western Australia.

My host is iinet.

I'm not Lynne.

You haven't got one shred of "real" evidence that says otherwise.

Everything else is stuff and nonsense

MoneyMakingBrain
03-04-2012, 07:34 AM
I have to admit that I feel rather sorry for MMB (Quite apart from the fact that he would fail any IT exam on the realities of IP tracing ) He has clearly been taken in by JustBeenPaid and believes Mann to be a latter day saint or Warren Buffet clone. (Or, he is a master of the art of distraction, as he has successfully diverted the conversation away from Just Been Paid and has entertained us for pages over Lynn's multiple personalities and then I am not so sorry for him).

MMB I am going to spell it out for you....

IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO ACHIEVE A SUSTAINABLE RETURN ON INVESTMENT OF 2% PER DAY IN ANY LEGAL BUSINESS. IT HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BY THE GREATEST MONEY MAKING BRAINS IN HISTORY AND NEVER WILL BE.

So JustBeenPaid is (a) a scam with an uniformed promoter who cant figure out where the money comes from (b) a legitimate business of the kind never ever seen before with an uninformed promoter who cant figure out where the money comes from and everyone, including CONSOB are just clones of Lynn at Eagle Research Associates.

And just on cue (and against all odds) the meat puppet shows up to make a case against the other devil LOL!
You could be right about Fred, but you got to wait for the day he runs with the money to accuse him of anything.
That said, PayPal already knows something about Lynn, you and I don't.
Maybe you should open up another thread: Why is Eagle Research Associates banned for PayPal?
Then do what the "users" on this crackpot forum love to do; spew out crap and talk garbage about people they don't know and without any solid proof of anything.

MMB

baylee
03-04-2012, 08:06 AM
I have to admit that I feel rather sorry for MMB (Quite apart from the fact that he would fail any IT exam on the realities of IP tracing ) He has clearly been taken in by JustBeenPaid and believes Mann to be a latter day saint or Warren Buffet clone. (Or, he is a master of the art of distraction, as he has successfully diverted the conversation away from Just Been Paid and has entertained us for pages over Lynn's multiple personalities and then I am not so sorry for him).

MMB I am going to spell it out for you....

IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO ACHIEVE A SUSTAINABLE RETURN ON INVESTMENT OF 2% PER DAY IN ANY LEGAL BUSINESS. IT HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BY THE GREATEST MONEY MAKING BRAINS IN HISTORY AND NEVER WILL BE.

So JustBeenPaid is (a) a scam with an uniformed promoter who cant figure out where the money comes from (b) a legitimate business of the kind never ever seen before with an uninformed promoter who cant figure out where the money comes from and everyone, including CONSOB are just clones of Lynn at Eagle Research Associates.

To the best of my knowledge, Lynn doesn't speak Italian but perhaps he could get Umbertino to help him with Consob. That doggone Consob has just got it in for the JBP scam.

littleroundman
03-04-2012, 09:20 AM
Again with the rhetoric and nothing else.

s-i-g-h.

ProfHenryHiggins
03-04-2012, 09:44 AM
You could be right about Fred, but you got to wait for the day he runs with the money to accuse him of anything.

That makes no sense. If the scheme is a Ponzi, than the illegalities have been building up from day 1. Recall the man for whom Ponzi schemes are named, and how he was found out.

laidback
03-04-2012, 10:51 AM
I have to admit that watching MoronicMonkeyBalm making a fool of himself is entertaining, but it was pointed out that attention has been diverted from the actual thread topic, JBP. Maybe LRM/Lynn/SBM or whomever should move all the entertainment to its own thread, jmho.

littleroundman
03-04-2012, 11:23 AM
You're entirely correct, of course.

It's entirely my fault.

Consider me suitably chastised.

MoneyMakingBrain and his nonsense is not worth the effort of creating a new thread, so from now on I'll just ignore him.

Others are free to make up their own minds as to how to handle the nonsense.

MoneyMakingBrain
03-04-2012, 11:29 AM
That makes no sense. If the scheme is a Ponzi, than the illegalities have been building up from day 1. Recall the man for whom Ponzi schemes are named, and how he was found out.
Professoe, I got a latin expression for you:
"Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat".

Proof lies on him who asserts, not on him who denies

In the eyes of the law, what's being said here and , not surprisingly, by that coward Patrick Hernan on his biased blog, doesn't hold legal water. That's why the Secret Service can't care less about his online ranting and ravings.
We got national and international laws upheld by mutual agreements between countries.
I am not intetested in speculation, professor, much less the kind that evolves beyond domestic legal interpretation and enforcement.
The laws in most countries are clear in this matter, and you just can't condem any individual without a fair trial, that applies even when you believe that; "if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, craps like a duck, it's probably a duck"!

We need to protect our right to be innocent until proven guilty. The gross disrespect of this precept makes the MMB angry on this forum and PPblog's (btw, why isn't that chicken talking to me here anymore?)

So, in applying your same logic, I can accuse Lynn Edgington aka "EagleOne" of consumer fraud because PayPal denies Eagle Research Associates, merachant services. After all PayPal would know the differenbce between crooked business models better than any other payment processor and they block service to all of them.
But, I cannot condem "Lynn" until I gather enough evidence and irrefutable proof that will support that theory.
You got it professor?

MMB

MoneyMakingBrain
03-04-2012, 11:30 AM
That makes no sense. If the scheme is a Ponzi, than the illegalities have been building up from day 1. Recall the man for whom Ponzi schemes are named, and how he was found out.

Professor, I got a latin expression for you:
"Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat".

Proof lies on him who asserts, not on him who denies

In the eyes of the law, what's being said here and , not surprisingly, by that coward Patrick Hernan on his biased blog, doesn't hold legal water. That's why the Secret Service can't care less about his online ranting and ravings.
We got national and international laws upheld by mutual agreements between countries.
I am not interested in speculation, professor, much less the kind that evolves beyond domestic legal interpretation and enforcement.
The laws in most countries are clear in this matter, and you just can't condemn any individual without a fair trial, that applies even when you believe that; "if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, craps like a duck, it's probably a duck"!

We need to protect our right to be innocent until proven guilty. The gross disrespect of this precept makes the MMB angry on this forum and PPblog's (btw, why isn't that chicken talking to me here anymore?)

So, in applying your same logic, I can accuse Lynn Edgington aka "EagleOne" of consumer fraud because PayPal denies Eagle Research Associates, merchant services. After all PayPal would know the difference between crooked business models better than any other payment processor and they block service to all of them.
But, I cannot condemn "Lynn" until I gather enough evidence and irrefutable proof that will support that theory.
You got it professor?

MMB

MoneyMakingBrain
03-04-2012, 11:49 AM
so from now on I'll just ignore him.

Really? So I can't ask you to delete post #445?

Then please don't ever ask or beg me to prove you've in more than 2 places using different user accounts anymore.

MMB

littleroundman
03-04-2012, 11:59 AM
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/ignorelist.jpg

scratchycat
03-04-2012, 12:05 PM
Also, I was wondering if our IP Guru was one of the people posting in the other forum with same subject.

http://www.realscam.com/f9/just-been-paid-547/

Now where am I located, definitely not on the West Coast although I do plan a trip, that should be fun...

Last time I checked I was in Springfield, MO...

MoneyMakingBrain
03-04-2012, 12:10 PM
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/ignorelist.jpg

Thanks! That makes things a lot easier, I tell you. ;)

MMB

MoneyMakingBrain
03-04-2012, 12:22 PM
Also, I was wondering if our IP Guru was one of the people posting in the other forum with same subject.

http://www.realscam.com/f9/just-been-paid-547/

Now where am I located, definitely not on the West Coast although I do plan a trip, that should be fun...

Last time I checked I was in Springfield, MO...

I don't have a beef with you scratchy cat. Did you visit my blog? BTW, the only way you can prove I am that user, it would be by setting up an 'email trap'. Usually users are not expecting IP DETECTOR in their emails, so when they open it, the real IP address is revealed. Other than that, web logs. But if there isn't enough data, then the analysis would be inconclusive. "LRM" has a good reason to fear, let alone want to take part in a "discovery" involving RealScam's web logs, I can assure of that.

And No, I can also assure you, I am not anyone else but the one and only MoneMakingBrain :)

MMB

Lil Ol' Radical Me
03-04-2012, 12:31 PM
You could be right about Fred, but you got to wait for the day he runs with the money to accuse him of anything.

Regrettably that is not the case. If a business is not legal from the beginning, it can be stopped at any time from its inception to it's end. The fact that the owners of Just Been Paid have not been arrested and convicted yet for criminal fraud does not mean that they may not be guilty of it. A housebreaker is a criminal from the minute he breaks in and steals, not from the moment he is caught and convicted. He may be innocent until proved guilty, but if he has done it he will be proved guilty. The same applies with fraud.

CONSOB are already on it's tail, which is the beginning of the evidence that the posters on this forum may well be right in their assessment of the scheme. They have been right in their assesments of potentially illegal schemes too many times for their warnings to be ignored.

MMB, do not fall into the trap of believing that being paid when you are a member of a scheme like this makes it legal, espècially if you are being paid out of new members money. It just means you are being paid out of the proceeds of a criminal enterprise, and if it is new members' money - then it is a ponzi.

If I were involved in any scheme like this I would go back and find out exactly where the money to pay people is coming from and reassure myself that I am not receiving proceeds of a criminal enterprise.

Lil Ol' Radical Me
03-04-2012, 12:42 PM
It is of no consequence whatever who the posters are on this forum.

The issue of importance are the facts they are presenting and the truthful answers to the questions they are asking about the set up and operation of Just Been Paid. The truth does not change because one or another poster is entertained by delving into the possibilities of the identities of the other posters. It is a distraction from the topic (as I am sure it was intended to be) and, lets face it, an ad hominem attack does't change the facts one iota.

Many people read this forum searching for information about scams online. They will draw their own conclusions from the facts and not whether you think Lynn is a dubious character or has multiple personalities, because this thread is not about Lynn, it is about Just Been Paid. This is why it is here.

MoneyMakingBrain
03-04-2012, 01:03 PM
Regrettably that is not the case. If a business is not legal from the beginning, it can be stopped at any time from its inception to it's end. The fact that the owners of Just Been Paid have not been arrested and convicted yet for criminal fraud does not mean that they may not be guilty of it. A housebreaker is a criminal from the minute he breaks in and steals, not from the moment he is caught and convicted. He may be innocent until proved guilty, but if he has done it he will be proved guilty. The same applies with fraud.

You said the word IF. The law doesn't work with IF it, SHOULD it, or WOULD It. That conjecture, and doesn't hold legal water. Show me an article in the law that would support your statement. A lawyer would know, are you a lawyer? You can't compare apples with oranges anyway, and it doesn't make it a good legal case; any district attorney would toss it out. there needs to be a victim to call it a crime.


CONSOB are already on it's tail, which is the beginning of the evidence that the posters on this forum may well be right in their assessment of the scheme. They have been right in their assesments of potentially illegal schemes too many times for their warnings to be ignored.

Best to my knowledge, CONSOB lacks of international jurisdiction. What was the Italian judicial determination in the case, do you know?


MMB, do not fall into the trap of believing that being paid when you are a member of a scheme like this makes it legal, espècially if you are being paid out of new members money. It just means you are being paid out of the proceeds of a criminal enterprise, and if it is new members' money - then it is a ponzi.If I were involved in any scheme like this I would go back and find out exactly where the money to pay people is coming from and reassure myself that I am not receiving proceeds of a criminal enterprise.

I don't fall into traps. I exercise legal caution, something that appears to be ignored on this site. You can be right about what's happening and what's about to happen with JBP. But, you have prerogative, so you can simply not join in. Unfortunately the law is clear in this regard; until you have a crime committed you can't accuse people of being criminals. The only time when this rules is ignored is when (in this case USA law) the suspect is engaging in potential terrorist activities, per Homeland Security guidelines. But, remember what I said about Lynn. He deserves the benefit of the doubt and prove to the MMB and everyone in his illustrious forum, that PayPal didn't block his merchant services for being a crooked account.

MMB

Lil Ol' Radical Me
03-04-2012, 04:14 PM
You said the word IF. The law doesn't work with IF it, SHOULD it, or WOULD It. That conjecture, and doesn't hold legal water. Show me an article in the law that would support your statement. A lawyer would know, are you a lawyer? You can't compare apples with oranges anyway, and it doesn't make it a good legal case; any district attorney would toss it out. there needs to be a victim to call it a crime.

The law certainly permits prosecutions where there is sufficient evidence to show that laws have and are being broken. It is the opinion of some posters here, based on the facts available, that there is indeed sufficient evidence that Just Been Paid is not operating legally. It is sincerely to be hoped that the US authorities will act on this information (if they are not already doing so - they are under no obligation to reveal information about their investigations).




Best to my knowledge, CONSOB lacks of international jurisdiction. What was the Italian judicial determination in the case, do you know?

It is not foolish to take notice of an investigation by the Italian Regulatory body CONSOB. They are not known to act lightly, but investigate when they do have sufficient evidence. The fact that they do not have jurisdiction in the United States does not mean that the US authorities will ignore their findings and add them to their own.




I don't fall into traps. I exercise legal caution, something that appears to be ignored on this site. You can be right about what's happening and what's about to happen with JBP. But, you have prerogative, so you can simply not join in. Unfortunately the law is clear in this regard; until you have a crime committed you can't accuse people of being criminals. The only time when this rules is ignored is when (in this case USA law) the suspect is engaging in potential terrorist activities, per Homeland Security guidelines. But, remember what I said about Lynn. He deserves the benefit of the doubt and prove to the MMB and everyone in his illustrious forum, that PayPal didn't block his merchant services for being a crooked account.


If you do indeed exercise "legal caution" then I would strongly advise you not to become complicit in or promote or defend schemes that may well be tainted with illegality. A scheme that promises unrealistic returns, such as Just Been Paid, along with all its other characteristics (registration and licensing details, lack of physical head office presence etc) shows up so many "red flags" than no one prudent will be joining. There is no law that forbids the public to hold an educated opinion on the financial scheme JustBeenPaid, including the opinion that these funds are being gained illegally . There is no law that forbids them to suspect fraudulent activities based on information they already have and which is public. There is no defamation either, if their comments can be shown to be true.

It is perfectly possible for someone to be a suspected criminal, although until they are convicted they are not a convicted criminal. The traditional ponzi pusher argument that the ponzi pimp du jour has not yet been found guilty, so must be innocent and shouldnt be criticized is an old one Law enforcement have a habit of investigating suspects before they are charged and convicted. People on anti scam boards also look into these possibilities long before the trials of those who are eventually indited and convicted. You dont wait until the victims lose all their money before you try to warn people about that possibility and you don't wait until a crook is convicted before you stop him from continuing with his unlawful activity. There is a whole legal process for justthat too.

And thank heavens for that. The US Government were able to legally charge Bowdoin from AdSurfDaily and gain a seizure of the illegally gained funds in time to retrieve enough to repay victims. If they had taken your advice, they would have had to wait for a criminal conviction and many thousands of people would have lost their life savings.

Your understanding of the workings of the law and of the motivation of those who dedicate time to stop or prevent financial fraud appears to be as full of gaps as your knowledge of IP tracking and it's relevance or not in a board such as this one, but it does show the lengths that some people will go to to deny the possibility that their favorite "scheme" is in fact an outright scam.

MoneyMakingBrain
03-04-2012, 11:03 PM
The law certainly permits prosecutions where there is sufficient evidence to show that laws have and are being broken. It is the opinion of some posters here, based on the facts available, that there is indeed sufficient evidence that Just Been Paid is not operating legally. It is sincerely to be hoped that the US authorities will act on this information (if they are not already doing so - they are under no obligation to reveal information about their investigations).

Jesus Christ, Where do you get your legal advice from, Radical? Your rhetoric sounds like coming from a guy who's been ripped off investing and promoting a past ponzi. The legal authorities in the USA and at the Federal level don't give a rat's ass about the CONSOB case, let alone an anonymous online opinion, and just because all Americans enjoy first Amendment privileges, it doesn't make it a 'fact' when somebody decides a crime is about to happen, nor it compels law enforcement authorities to take legal action. Things can change of course, but there needs to be clamor for justice.


It is not foolish to take notice of an investigation by the Italian Regulatory body CONSOB. They are not known to act lightly, but investigate when they do have sufficient evidence. The fact that they do not have jurisdiction in the United States does not mean that the US authorities will ignore their findings and add them to their own.

Again, I can't argue the facts and neither can you unless there are convictions. I am gonna ask you one more time; what's the judicial determination in the case, and where can I read court papers?


If you do indeed exercise "legal caution" then I would strongly advise you not to become complicit in or promote or defend schemes that may well be tainted with illegality. A scheme that promises unrealistic returns, such as Just Been Paid, along with all its other characteristics (registration and licensing details, lack of physical head office presence etc) shows up so many "red flags" than no one prudent will be joining. There is no law that forbids the public to hold an educated opinion on the financial scheme JustBeenPaid, including the opinion that these funds are being gained illegally . There is no law that forbids them to suspect fraudulent activities based on information they already have and which is public. There is no defamation either, if their comments can be shown to be true.

Yes, I understand your concerns and everyone should have a right to an opinion as per first amendment, unfortunately that's not the case in every nation, is it? But, since you ascertain that Fred Mann's scheme may well be tainted with illegality, then why don't you go to the AG's Investors Fraud Bureau to make a criminal complaint? What Possible good can come from talking like a lunatic, about another alleged "lunatic", and his HYI program on the public forum set up by Lynn Edgington? Are you so deluded in your own mind as to believe that investors are going to be reading this crackpot forum? Look around you, there is 'nobody' here. Everyone except "Lynn" is anonymous (as far as I can see, that is). And even if you were not, you are wasting your time. If you really want to make a difference, at the very least, just file a complaint against Fred on your local BBB.


It is perfectly possible for someone to be a suspected criminal, although until they are convicted they are not a convicted criminal. The traditional ponzi pusher argument that the ponzi pimp du jour has not yet been found guilty, so must be innocent and shouldn't be criticized is an old one Law enforcement have a habit of investigating suspects before they are charged and convicted. People on anti scam boards also look into these possibilities long before the trials of those who are eventually indited and convicted. You dont wait until the victims lose all their money before you try to warn people about that possibility and you don't wait until a crook is convicted before you stop him from continuing with his unlawful activity. There is a whole legal process for justthat too.
And thank heavens for that. The US Government were able to legally charge Bowdoin from AdSurfDaily and gain a seizure of the illegally gained funds in time to retrieve enough to repay victims. If they had taken your advice, they would have had to wait for a criminal conviction and many thousands of people would have lost their life savings.

There is a line between First Amendment Rights vs. Libel here. So, when does your right to form an opinion begins and when does it constitute a defamation of character? The answer is, law enforcement agencies don't pay attention to what's being said on forums and blogs, so get your head straight and feet firm on the ground.

There is a good reason , I am sure, for you to post here anonymously, but if you want to actions you go to the General Attorney's Office, which means that you would have to identify yourself and present your credentials. Now, let's talk about the sixth amendment:

The Sixth Amendment says that a criminal defendant has the right to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation against him. Therefore, an indictment must allege all the ingredients of the crime to such a degree of precision that it would allow the accused to assert double jeopardy if the same charges are brought up in subsequent prosecution.

The Supreme Court held in United States v. Carll, 105 U.S. 611 (1881) that “in an indictment ... it is not sufficient to set forth the offense in the words of the statute, unless those words of themselves fully, directly, and expressly, without any uncertainty or ambiguity, set forth all the elements necessary to constitute the offense intended to be punished.” Vague wording, even if taken directly from a statute, does not suffice.

Sixth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution# Notice_of_accusation)

This means in case you don't understand all the above, that everyone (thank God) has the right to face his accusers, which you apparently purposely deny to Fred Mann. And, regardless of the reasons you may have to hide behind a computer, the fact is you're posting on this board anonymously.


Your understanding of the workings of the law and of the motivation of those who dedicate time to stop or prevent financial fraud appears to be as full of gaps as your knowledge of IP tracking and it's relevance or not in a board such as this one, but it does show the lengths that some people will go to to deny the possibility that their favorite "scheme" is in fact an outright scam.

First of all, you are not talking to a child as the "littledumbadmin" would have you believe.
Second, you can't argue without knowledge of the facts. You got no idea if I got money invested in JBP or not. And frankly, you sound like a sounding board for the "litlleidiotman", now that he is "ignoring" me, supposedly :)

Full of gaps? And how would you know that? You keep on making arguments without knowledge of the facts. When I asked him to provide a copy of the web logs he just run away providing a silly excuse. BTW, that's what the few users who post here generally do ad nauseaum. That said, this is not a very busy forum by any stretch of the imagination, so you're not making a difference at all. Now that you've learned what to do, I hope you stop ranting and raving, and crying fire like a lunatic yourself.

MMB

littleroundman
03-05-2012, 12:03 AM
If you do indeed exercise "legal caution" then I would strongly advise you not to become complicit in or promote or defend schemes that may well be tainted with illegality.


What is the liability of brokers in the United States in presenting HYIP’s to prospective investors?

Brokers Beware! There is absolutely no way for a broker in the United States to lawfully present to an investor a high yield investment program as described above. This applies to private placements as well as the many unintended public offerings; i.e. the broker breaches the law by unknowingly violating the prohibitions against public offerings without complying with the Federal and/or state securities statutes. And it is vital for brokers to understand that if they do anything (called an “overt act”) with regard to passing on to other brokers or investors representations (written or oral) of (a) “no risk” deals, (B) implied but untrue ownership of MTN’s, or © earning extraordinary profits as described above, they become a co-conspirator and are criminally liable for felony prosecution (including money laundering). So, if you are a broker in this business with products as described above, you are involved in a criminal enterprise.




broker
Definition

An individual or firm (http://www.investorwords.com/1967/firm.html) which acts as an intermediary (http://www.investorwords.com/2556/intermediary.html) between a buyer (http://www.investorwords.com/12803/buyer.html) and seller (http://www.investorwords.com/13835/seller.html), usually charging a commission (http://www.investorwords.com/967/commission.html). For securities (http://www.investorwords.com/5954/securities.html) and most other products (http://www.investorwords.com/3874/product.html), a license (http://www.investorwords.com/2798/license.html) is required.

NOTE: For "commission" substitute "referral fee" and it is easy to see how otherwise law abiding citizens can place themselves at risk of prosecution and clawback of any income received.

http://oascentral.investorwords.com/RealMedia/ads/adstream_nx.ads/www.investorwords.com/investorwords/lower_jumbo/@Bottom

MoneyMakingBrain
03-05-2012, 01:06 AM
NOTE: For "commission" substitute "referral fee" and it is easy to see how otherwise law abiding citizens can place themselves at risk of prosecution and clawback of any income received.

http://oascentral.investorwords.com/RealMedia/ads/adstream_nx.ads/www.investorwords.com/investorwords/lower_jumbo/@Bottom


What does the assertions and/or opinions by an American author-attorney at law have anything to do with what I am talking about?

And anyway, aren't you in "Western Australia"? So, why are you so concerned about what happens to Americans, now? LOL. Unless of course, you are only a mouthpiece for Lynn Edgington, or his cohort Patrick Hernan.


...the broker breaches the law by unknowingly violating the prohibitions against public offerings without complying with the Federal and/or state securities statutes

Exactly! That's the unfortunate part of all this. How on earth are you going to prosecute a company that is not even registered in the USA? That's why I said there is no jurisdiction; not by US authorities or CONSOB. And in addition, how are you going to prosecute with the provision's definition for "brokers", when there is not 'one' complaint filed to the record against the defendant(s)?

The main problem you are faced with your silly exhibit above is that, it can not compel any law enforcement agencies to take legal action, again, for lack of criminal complaints filed to the record against the criminal defendant, in this case Fred Mann. The more reason not to talk about, or make an argument against someone without having precise knowledge of the facts.

Second, there is a question about jurisdiction, so, that warning should be heeded mainly by all Americans, but investors from other nationalities can't give a rat's ass. That doesn't mean they shouldn't, but they don't have to. So, get that through your thick head, and stop copying and pasting irrelevant or immaterial information to this particular situation.

MMB

littleroundman
03-05-2012, 02:00 AM
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/latest-2.jpg

scratchycat
03-05-2012, 09:49 AM
I don't have a beef with you scratchy cat. Did you visit my blog? BTW, the only way you can prove I am that user, it would be by setting up an 'email trap'. Usually users are not expecting IP DETECTOR in their emails, so when they open it, the real IP address is revealed. Other than that, web logs. But if there isn't enough data, then the analysis would be inconclusive. "LRM" has a good reason to fear, let alone want to take part in a "discovery" involving RealScam's web logs, I can assure of that.

And No, I can also assure you, I am not anyone else but the one and only MoneMakingBrain :)

MMB

Yes, I made one mistake of visiting your 'trap' blog but no more. I have good virus protection and when someone starts trying to get in my network (like happened there) it tells me something is wrong. I don't know who you are and furthermore do not care. If you only look at those clowns over in Scamland who continually promote programs such as this one you are bragging about you will see that it is all it is SCAM, FRAUD, HYPE! Who on earth wants to put up good money for a 2% (maybe) return and the program will close before you ever withdraw a dime. They come and go...

For my email, unless you are in my contact list, it goes to Junk and it is easier enough these days to get email addresses. I have no 'beef' with you either except I don't understand why all the distraction from the REAL subject and why you think your hero Fred is so great when he is nothing but another mouth saying the same thing other scammers, ponsters, and pill pushers say.

Real Scam is one of the few places trying to uncover these scams and let people decide whether or not it is a scam. We could use more people like the members here to try and alert the intelligent agencies to fight cyber crime. These people are good at what they do and no matter how much you try to tear them down all it is doing is bringing more attention to their skills. Now, I am finished with you, I have better things to do and I would advise anyone to NOT visit your blog, it is a setup and trap.

MoneyMakingBrain
03-05-2012, 11:14 AM
Cat, you and everyone here appear to talk like meat puppets of the "LRM". It seems as if all the "users" share the same exact opinions right down to the same grievances. That just doesn't happen in real forums.

Then, when someone gives you a 'neutral' assessment on the topic at hand, you accuse them of promoting something. Anyway, do you know how stupid you sound for your apparent lack of an understanding of the legal things I stated above? Do yourself a favor and read what I said in my last posts.

I am really advising people to, at least, file a complaint with their local Better Business Bureau, and you're telling me I must be in favor of Fred, and that, he is the MMB's "hero". WTF is wrong with you?

You are not going to stop guys like Fred Mann by ranting like all the other lunatics, let alone anonymously. You stop them the way I told you. You are welcome to call the Attorney's General hotline and express your concerns about the makings of this guy, who lives in South Africa and that it's confirmed he has a partner in the USA (I am sure you can easily find out who). However, unless the AG has made a press release, you are not going to get any information from them to post back in here, like; how many complaints against Fred have already been filed? But, wouldn't you like to know? They just don't disclose information that has not been published by AG, yet.

But, your concerns will be noted. The only thing is that you can't pull this "anonymous" stunt like you do here at RS. And, if you give then a false ID, they might come after you with charges of perjury.

That said, if you continue to do this crap on this forum, what's gonna happen is you are gonna shift 100% the attention to who owns this crackpot forum, instead of Fred Mann.

MMB

MoneyMakingBrain
03-05-2012, 12:38 PM
I just want to assure Cat, that I never planted bugs in the blog. If you had problems with IP DETECTOR on my blog, then you should have experienced the same problems here at RS.

It is only relevant that I keep track of who says what and who doesn't on this crackpot forum. The MMB is interested to know all that. If you doubt the importance, then ask 'yourselves"; why is Patrick Hernan concerned about what's being said on RealScam.com, while pretending to ignore my assertions, that he is in cahoots with Lynn Edgington?

He was here present with us at 12AM (Western Australia Time), and regardless that his user details page indicates that his last activity was on: 02-21-2012 07:53 PM
View Profile: PPBlog - RealScam.com - Is it, or isn't it? You Decide. (http://www.realscam.com/members/ppblog/)

Yet, he doesn't make one move to post, or have the balls to deny anything. The fact that it seems he doesn't want to take any action, speaks volumes about him. A chicken is what a chicken does:

67.172.xx.xxx - - [06/Mar/2012:00:43:43] "GET HTTP/1.1" 301 254 "http://www.realscam.com/f8/justbeenpaid-810/" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/9.0.1"

Log Interpretation:
Patrick's connection in Oil City, reading this thread at 12:43 am (WAT) using a Windows NT 6.0 (Win 7-Vista) and FireFox browser 9.01 (time to upgrade, Pal :)

MMB

ProfHenryHiggins
03-05-2012, 03:09 PM
Exactly! That's the unfortunate part of all this. How on earth are you going to prosecute a company that is not even registered in the USA? That's why I said there is no jurisdiction; not by US authorities or CONSOB. And in addition, how are you going to prosecute with the provision's definition for "brokers", when there is not 'one' complaint filed to the record against the defendant(s)?

By that argument, no nation could have taken actions against pirates in the days when European privateers carried letters from the Crown as representatives of their government. Likewise, there would be little use for extradition clauses in treaties, save for retrieving ones' own citizens, if governments could not take legal actions against companies in foreign nations.

MoneyMakingBrain
03-05-2012, 03:44 PM
Lynn, I don't know what you're trying to prove with portions of hearsay taken from internet chatter, or who know where. For someone who purports to be a "professional researcher" and responsible author, you look like an amateur without a real job to me.

In the eyes of the law, there is no case, and you can't file charges against anyone (they get quickly dismissed) unless you can prove you got damages. I don't see from what you exhibited that the user incurred any damages other than expressing his disappointment of the matrix's performance. That greedy *******.

Anyway, you can't use what someone writes anonymously (I assume), to argue in favor or against JBP. And that's a fact. You keep bending over and backwards trying to prove that that program is tainted. But, for those who can pick up on subtleties, it looks more like you're a conducting a personal witch hunt, and you disregard the fact that nobody (best to my knowledge) including the person in your exhibit, has filed a complaint against JBP. Why? I can't tell you 'why' without knowing the facts. However, my suspicions mind thinks you could be that person.

And Wow! That program can set you back financially after a "restart". Big ******* deal! The more reason not to engage in this, if you're looking for a 'quick rich scheme', that is. I told on PPblog's that I wasn't too impressed in earning 2% per day for 75 days; $100 investment gives a $150 return in 2.5 months. The initial $100 is gone.
I don't have to put my money into this to know that. And so, big Deal! Anyone with real money would find that there are many more interesting ways to get a 50% ROI, so this JBP is too over hyped.

MMB





The blinders seem to be coming off from the faithful:

If you're someone who has a lot of referrals, it may not seem that harsh. But smaller investors did get hit very HARD from the last two restarts, as well as larger investors who invested just days before the restart. At least I did and I know many others felt the STING as well. So, I guess it just depends on your situation at the time of a restart. For me 75% of my positions gone is a bit HARSH from the last restart. I was just rebuilding my positions after the 1st restart.

To someone who just invested $1,000 or more a few days before a restart, I'm sure they thought it was pretty HARSH to lose 3/4 of their positions during the last restart. So, I don't think it's fair to say that restarts don't hurt. They do. The question is how BAD will it be this time around? No one knows. Only JBP admin knows. They do a lot of rah, rah, rah, don't worry kind of speeches in the conference room. I know, because I used to be in there. Then WHAM they hit you with a restart. They just try to throw people off with all the positive speech, so that people won't go into massive withdraw mode.

This last matrix feeding didn't fare that well for me or a lot of folks. I didn't see as many reports of major money appearing in people's accounts, as I did after the 1st restart. The feed has to be done by now, because I don't have anymore triplers to be placed. There is a difference of opinion as to how the matrix works. In my opinion, I don't think anyone really knows. Different strategies have been suggested, but unfortunately they don't work for all. It's a mystery to me how some people make out well in the cycling of matrices and others don't. I know I've bought the 1st 2 spots & upgraded them to premium in some of mine & I only had 2 cycle. While some in my downline did nothing and cycled 5, 6, 7 or more times. GO FIGURE!!!!!!

For me JBP is a feeder program into other things I'm investing in. The couple of referrals that I managed to hang on to after this last restart don't purchase triplers nearly as much as they did when they first started. More people are cashing out I believe. Myself included. To be honest, since I feel another restart is soon to come, I wouldn't advise anyone to invest right now. I would rather not feed people pie-in-the-sky stuff about this program. Restarts are a REAL PART of this program and because of that, it's really hard to know how to invest here. I say get yourself to making $50 a day, and then do a 4:3 strategy. Reinvest for 4 days a week & withdraw for 3. When you're making more, you can change that strategy. Just my opinion, of course people can do what they want with their money, but INVEST wisely. Don't put in more than you can afford to lose after a restart or be without for at least 75 days.

Two very good mods quit this program after the last restart. To me that speaks volumes. I'm sure that they got tired of having to deal with irate members after restarts, and defending a program that seemingly let them down as well. These are all facts I'm stating. I know both of the mods and know they are good decent people. So, anyway you have both sides of the coin here. Invest at your own RISK and be careful. I personally don't promote the program anymore. It's too nerve racking dealing with disappointed people in my downline. I had some in my downline invest major money into the program, only to be let down. I know they went into withdraw mode after the restart to recoup their losses.

Good day all.

PS: Correction. The two mods didn't quit the program, just being mods.

surfer
03-05-2012, 04:09 PM
608

Getting a bit old, lol.

If you don't think much of JBP, then what is your purpose here?

Why aren't you on all the other threads in this forum defending the other ponzi/scam owners that haven't officially been convicted or closed down yet?

Lil Ol' Radical Me
03-05-2012, 06:13 PM
Jeez, is he still here, banging on?

On reading this, I had what I can only call a "duh?" moment. LOL



Originally Posted by Lil Ol' Radical Me
The law certainly permits prosecutions where there is sufficient evidence to show that laws have and are being broken. It is the opinion of some posters here, based on the facts available, that there is indeed sufficient evidence that Just Been Paid is not operating legally. It is sincerely to be hoped that the US authorities will act on this information (if they are not already doing so - they are under no obligation to reveal information about their investigations).
Jesus Christ, Where do you get your legal advice from, Radical? Your rhetoric sounds like coming from a guy who's been ripped off investing and promoting a past ponzi. The legal authorities in the USA and at the Federal level don't give a rat's ass about the CONSOB case, let alone an anonymous online opinion, and just because all Americans enjoy first Amendment privileges, it doesn't make it a 'fact' when somebody decides a crime is about to happen, nor it compels law enforcement authorities to take legal action.



MMB, if you are still lurking here, I'll try again (sigh) and I'll keep it VERY VERY VERY simple....

In real life, before a person is convicted of a crime and can be called a criminal , first they are investigated and then prosecuted. THEN they are convicted. This is how law enforcement works and you don't even need to watch the next episode of Law & Order to figure that out. I'll repeat this......The crime happens first, then they hear about it and investigate, then, once they have sufficient evidence, they go after and catch the bad guy and then they take him to court and convict him for the crime - in that order. The crime does not happen the moment he is convicted! How on earth do you think it works??? (no, please don't even think about answering that one!)

I dont know what you think this board is for, but it is used to draw attention to the many dubious schemes around and is a place where people can discuss if they are or are not likely to be illegal. It is not a game of spies and who has what IP address, or even who is who. People come together to provide information so that people can decide for themselves.

I reckon most people on this board have figured out all by themselves that they need to use their real name when dealing with the authorities, but it doesn't mean they can't choose to use a pen name here.

But I'll tell you one other thing free, gratis and for nothing. I am sure that law enforcement know exactly who Eagle and Lynn are, take him seriously and know exactly where he operates from (and to give you a clue, it ain't Western Australia - that's the other guy)

What is more, when it is drawn to the attention of law enforcement that there is a scam around, it may well be investigated, whether by the people who post here or read here or other people. How on earth to you think that the cases against every convicted ponzi merchant started? Some people report issues to the AG, IC3, the police, the Secret Service, the FTC and to the many other authorities available, as well as posting or reading and they don't have to mention it here either.

I hate to tell you this, but yes law enforcement does watch various blogs and boards, especially if they are discussing schemes which are under investigation. A couple of Boards have even been mentioned in court filings. Law enforcement is not stupid and they have worked out how the internet works too and yes they do work with other law enforcement agencies (even those in Italy).

The situation with Just Been Paid has nothing to do with First, Sixth or any other Amendment rights. It concerns serious doubts which are held as to it's legitimacy. It would have more helpful to qualm doubts, if you could have explained how the incredible 2% per day return is financed, instead of raving on about the possible identities and IP addresses of the posters! But as you don't appear to have any reasonable explanation, it looks as if the observations here that new members may be financing the payouts to the old members could well be right on the money i.e. it's a ponzi.

Read Eagle's last post very carefully. He has just explained the law to you.

Lil Ol' Radical Me
03-05-2012, 06:18 PM
OOps Patrick Pretty beat me to it

UPDATE: Antihistorical ‘MoneyMakingBrain’ Claim: ‘Law Enforcement Agencies Don’t Pay Attention To What’s Being Said On Forums And Blogs’ (http://www.patrickpretty.com/2012/03/05/update-antihistorical-moneymakingbrain-claim-law-enforcement-agencies-dont-pay-attention-to-whats-being-said-on-forums-and-blogs/)

MoneyMakingBrain
03-05-2012, 07:37 PM
Blah, Blah, Blah,
BLAH, BLAH, BLAH

Show me links to support your wisdom and please don't post links to PatricK Hernan's ridiculous blog, who took what I've said -TRUE TO FORM- completely out of context.
INDEED, the law enforcement authorities aren't reading this scam forum, or Patrick's blog or ANY forum where the poster are all ANONYMOUS.

Suggesting the contrary is an insult to law enforcement agencies.

That said, the level of manipulation and sock puppetry of on this site and Patrick's blog are unprecedented, I tell you, and that if anything should be also investigated thoroughly (yeah, like any law enforcement agency would give a rat's ass about this lame ass forum); particularly the real reasons why Lynn Edgington and Patrick Hernan go to such lengths to create baseless content out of thin air.

MMB


Jeez, is he still here, banging on?

On reading this, I had what I can only call a "duh?" moment. LOL





MMB, if you are still lurking here, I'll try again (sigh) and I'll keep it VERY VERY VERY simple....

In real life, before a person is convicted of a crime and can be called a criminal , first they are investigated and then prosecuted. THEN they are convicted. This is how law enforcement works and you don't even need to watch the next episode of Law & Order to figure that out. I'll repeat this......The crime happens first, then they hear about it and investigate, then, once they have sufficient evidence, they go after and catch the bad guy and then they take him to court and convict him for the crime - in that order. The crime does not happen the moment he is convicted! How on earth do you think it works??? (no, please don't even think about answering that one!)

I dont know what you think this board is for, but it is used to draw attention to the many dubious schemes around and is a place where people can discuss if they are or are not likely to be illegal. It is not a game of spies and who has what IP address, or even who is who. People come together to provide information so that people can decide for themselves.

I reckon most people on this board have figured out all by themselves that they need to use their real name when dealing with the authorities, but it doesn't mean they can't choose to use a pen name here.

But I'll tell you one other thing free, gratis and for nothing. I am sure that law enforcement know exactly who Eagle and Lynn are, take him seriously and know exactly where he operates from (and to give you a clue, it ain't Western Australia - that's the other guy)

What is more, when it is drawn to the attention of law enforcement that there is a scam around, it may well be investigated, whether by the people who post here or read here or other people. How on earth to you think that the cases against every convicted ponzi merchant started? Some people report issues to the AG, IC3, the police, the Secret Service, the FTC and to the many other authorities available, as well as posting or reading and they don't have to mention it here either.

I hate to tell you this, but yes law enforcement does watch various blogs and boards, especially if they are discussing schemes which are under investigation. A couple of Boards have even been mentioned in court filings. Law enforcement is not stupid and they have worked out how the internet works too and yes they do work with other law enforcement agencies (even those in Italy).

The situation with Just Been Paid has nothing to do with First, Sixth or any other Amendment rights. It concerns serious doubts which are held as to it's legitimacy. It would have more helpful to qualm doubts, if you could have explained how the incredible 2% per day return is financed, instead of raving on about the possible identities and IP addresses of the posters! But as you don't appear to have any reasonable explanation, it looks as if the observations here that new members may be financing the payouts to the old members could well be right on the money i.e. it's a ponzi.

Read Eagle's last post very carefully. He has just explained the law to you.

baylee
03-05-2012, 08:23 PM
Blah, Blah, Blah,
BLAH, BLAH, BLAH

Show me links to support your wisdom and please don't post links to PatricK Hernan's ridiculous blog, who took what I've said -TRUE TO FORM- completely out of context.
INDEED, the law enforcement authorities aren't reading this scam forum, or Patrick's blog or ANY forum where the poster are all ANONYMOUS.

Suggesting the contrary is an insult to law enforcement agencies.

That said, the level of manipulation and sock puppetry of on this site and Patrick's blog are unprecedented, I tell you, and that if anything should be also investigated thoroughly (yeah, like any law enforcement agency would give a rat's ass about this lame ass forum); particularly the real reasons why Lynn Edgington and Patrick Hernan go to such lengths to create baseless content out of thin air.

MMB

LOL, the drain, fit's the old saying to a Tee! Garbage in equals Garbage out!

Lil Ol' Radical Me
03-05-2012, 08:45 PM
I'm going to have another "duh?" moment here.

MMB Patrick Pretty actually bothered to post screen shots from blogs that were used in Government Exhibits in relation to prosecutions. It really doesn't matter what your opinion of his blog is. The Government are quite happy to use extracts of internet blogs and forums and it is just possible that the agents involved are more familiar with the pen names of some of the posters here than you are. Far from insulting law enforcement agencies, I would suggest that they are often quite on the ball, especially when their colleagues are involved. lol

By the way on the topic you mentioned earlier about the US not taking interest in prosecutions and other activities by non US law enforcement, I thought you might enjoy this quote from the Governments own site
about the Imperia Invest prosecution

Imperia Invest IBC (http://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2010/lr21686.htm)


The Commission acknowledges the assistance and cooperation of the State of Maine Office of Securities, the Securities Commission of the Bahamas, the Vanuatu Financial Services Commission and the Cyprus Securities and Exchange Commission

There you go, from the horse's mouth.... happy now?

littleroundman
03-05-2012, 11:06 PM
N-O-O-O-O, Your Honour, I'm not a shill or participant, not me.

I'm just an innocent bystander interested in truth, justice and the American way.

My only interest is in protecting the reputation of an innocent old guy and defending the principles of the Constitution

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/mmb-1.jpg

http://reviewopedia.com/workathome/justbeenpaid-reviews-legit-or-scam/ (http://reviewopedia.com/workathome/justbeenpaid-reviews-legit-or-scam/)

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/rinse.jpg

MoneyMakingBrain
03-05-2012, 11:59 PM
So you are ignoring ha? Bha-ha ha. So much for that you obsessed littleruinedman. I guess you hit the 'obsess' button not the "ignore" one. .

I told you before, you'll never know where I am going with all this, you'll never be as smart as I am even if you lived 100 years. Carry on now, let me see what else you find out about me. LOL!

MMB



N-O-O-O-O, Your Honour, I'm not a shill or participant, not me.

I'm just an innocent bystander interested in truth, justice and the American way.

My only interest is in protecting the reputation of an innocent old guy and defending the principles of the Constitution

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/mmb-1.jpg

http://reviewopedia.com/workathome/justbeenpaid-reviews-legit-or-scam/ (http://reviewopedia.com/workathome/justbeenpaid-reviews-legit-or-scam/)

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/rinse.jpg

EagleOne
03-06-2012, 12:03 AM
lrm say it isn't so. You mean he has been lying all this time?

Wait, am I you posting this, or am I me posting this?

littleroundman
03-06-2012, 01:31 AM
HeHe,

that's the good thing about being a HYIP ponzi watcher, you can't lose.

You can only ever be "right" or "more right"

All the stuff and nonsense aside, when someone/anyone includes "2% per day" and "indefinitely sustainable" in the same sentence it's not hard to work out you're dealing with ponzi pimps or absolute newbies.

I wouldn't mind betting I could read back over a decades' worth of the Wall Street Journal without finding those 2 expressions together in the same paragraph, unless it is a story about the ponzi du jour being busted.

Get-rich-quick schemes are a tiny bit harder, but "2% per day, indefinitely sustainable" HYIP ponzi predictions are a slam dunk, golden eagle on the shoulder certainty.

okosh
03-06-2012, 03:06 AM
you'll never be as smart as I am even if you lived 100 years.

MMB

I would like to nominate MMB for the position of "village idiot" here at realscam.....

All those in favor???.....

littleroundman
03-06-2012, 04:00 AM
I would like to nominate MMB for the position of "village idiot" here at realscam.....

Nomination and voting are unnecessary

To paraphrase the US Constitution "Some truths we hold to be self evident"

EagleOne
03-06-2012, 04:15 AM
Well, since I am both of you, I guess that means I have already voted and makes the vote 1 in favor since I'm you and you're me.

I would say we could wait for Baylee, Laidback and Whip to vote, but since they are also all me, I guess the vote would still be 1-0. Man this tough being all of you. It is wearing me out trying to keep track of which one of you I am every time I post here now. But since I own this forum, then I guess I have the only vote that counts. It's official.

littleroundman
03-06-2012, 04:47 AM
I been tellin' ya for yonks, mate, if youse is gunna be dinky die, I reckon youse've gotta speak 'Strine

MoneyMakingBrain
03-06-2012, 07:47 AM
I been tellin' ya for yonks, mate, if youse is gunna be dinky die, I reckon youse've gotta speak 'Strine
That's the language consistent with the LRM ;)

And STILL, I have convinced "everybody" that this crackpot forum was set up by Lynn Edgington to feature "Eagle Research Associates Inc" , and you "litteruinedman", are unable to explain why is that, I could tell you used Whip on 2/17, or why Lynn mentioned user "laidback" when I only told Patrick that, or why I can look at your logs and prove you are the dumbest sock puppeteers the web has ever had in his history.

Naturally, you're going to continue blabbing more nonsense to death, and making up new stories as you go, just like Patrick "Chicken" Hernan. It's a good strategy, isn't?

MMB

MoneyMakingBrain
03-06-2012, 08:18 AM
Well, since I am both of you, I guess that means I have already voted and makes the vote 1 in favor since I'm you and you're me.

I would say we could wait for Baylee, Laidback and Whip to vote, but since they are also all me, I guess the vote would still be 1-0. Man this tough being all of you. It is wearing me out trying to keep track of which one of you I am every time I post here now. But since I own this forum, then I guess I have the only vote that counts. It's official.

I want to apologize to you for doing (unknowingly) damage by exposing your deception on this forum and creating a blog that talks about it. But, you must admit, you brought this upon yourself, and that, you shouldn't pick fights with people you don't even know, especially, anonymous users. You've made a lot of enemies on this forum, but I want to make this clear, I don't consider myself one, because you haven't touched me 'personally', but, maybe you should chill out for a while.

Sorry for creating so much trouble for you, but now that you're exposed, you maybe vulnerable, so I sincerely advise you to remove yourself from this forum. Unfortunately for you, that blog could stay where it is for a long time, or maybe for history, and I will make the GZ log archive files, that supports what I am saying, available for anyone to download.

Sorry again, but like I said, you shouldn't pick up fights with online strangers.

MMB

Lil Ol' Radical Me
03-06-2012, 08:30 AM
I want to apologize to you for doing (unknowingly) damage by exposing your deception on this forum and creating a blog that talks about it. But, you must admit, you brought this upon yourself, and that, you shouldn't pick fights with people you don't even know, especially, anonymous users. You've made a lot of enemies on this forum, but I want to make this clear, I don't consider myself one, because you haven't touched me 'personally', but, maybe you should chill out for a while.

Sorry for creating so much trouble for you, but now that you're exposed, you maybe vulnerable, so I sincerely advise you to remove yourself from this forum. Unfortunately for you, that blog could stay where it is for a long time, or maybe for history, and I will make the GZ log archive files, that supports what I am saying, available for anyone to download.

Sorry again, but like I said, you shouldn't pick up fights with online strangers.

MMB

Ok MMB, even if no one is frightened of you, you are now making veiled threats, which says a lot about you and Just Been Paid and nothing about those who you are threatening, apart from the fact that you clearly dont like what people are telling you. It is obvious that you haven't the faintest idea of the track records in fighting scams that the people who post on here have. It is far easy for you to derail the thread off the topic of Just Been Paid and its legitimacy (and that of Fred Mann, by default) because they are letting you carry on doing it because your diatribes are very entertaining.

And you are absolutely right you shouldn't pick fights with online strangers. When or IF you finally realize that we are not all Lynn (or maybe we are. lol) you may find yourself acutely embarrassed for having made a total fool of yourself and your favorite program - Just Been Paid.

MoneyMakingBrain
03-06-2012, 09:18 AM
It is far easy for you to derail the thread off the topic of Just Been Paid and its legitimacy (and that of Fred Mann, by default) because they are letting you carry on doing it because your diatribes are very entertaining.

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.


And you are absolutely right you shouldn't pick fights with online strangers. When or IF you finally realize that we are not all Lynn (or maybe we are. lol) you may find yourself acutely embarrassed for having made a total fool of yourself and your favorite program - Just Been Paid.

First, I didn't say "all of you are", I reckon that you probably are not :) but you are a meat puppet, always on cue to help your beaten "littleroundadmin".
I tell you what, why don't you convince Lynn or even the "LRM" to get the logs for today (current day logs don't get archived as GZ files til the next day) and let's a look.
That should settle this dispute once and for all, and I should look, as you say, like a dumb ass, AH? What about it?

Second, I am not promoting JBP here. That's a fact.

Third, without any effort, if I just searched for the keyword "Baylee, Just Been Paid", I can prove that Lynn is a sock-puppeteer, just like I've been saying all along:
JustBeenPaid - justbeenpaid.com (http://www.moneymakergroup.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=329007&view=findpost&p=6745533)

All this obsessive need to talk crap about the MMB and make false accusations, because I was offering a more 'neutral' opinion on this crackpot forum. Geez!

MMB

ProfHenryHiggins
03-06-2012, 09:28 AM
I may be mis-remembering, but didn't YOU come barging in to attack people here, MMB?
Pot, meet kettle.

littleroundman
03-06-2012, 09:35 AM
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/waffle.jpg

Good Lord, is he still waffling on and spouting c**p.

What great revelation has he made today ???

Who am I today ???

Wait, don't tell me.

I'm s-o-o-o-o-o-o-o scared.

littleroundman
03-06-2012, 09:36 AM
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/thelittleroundman/rinse.jpg

MoneyMakingBrain
03-06-2012, 09:44 AM
I may be mis-remembering, but didn't YOU come barging in to attack people here, MMB?
Pot, meet kettle.

Ah... the good ole brainless professor. It doesn't bother you one bit that you're being played like a sucker by a bloody fool. Even when I am showing irrefutable proof that Lynndel "Lynn" Edgington has been playing around under some anonymous account named "BAYLEE", you look the other way, and just spew more crap about me. Isn't that peculiar?? I just wonder why? LOL!!

MMB

baylee
03-06-2012, 09:44 AM
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.



First, I didn't say "all of you are", I reckon that you probably are not :) but you are a meat puppet, always on cue to help your beaten "littleroundadmin".
I tell you what, why don't you convince Lynn or even the "LRM" to get the logs for today (current day logs don't get archived as GZ files til the next day) and let's a look.
That should settle this dispute once and for all, and I should look, as you say, like a dumb ass, AH? What about it?

Second, I am not promoting JBP here. That's a fact.

Third, without any effort, if I just searched for the keyword "Baylee, Just Been Paid", I can prove that Lynn is a sock-puppeteer, just like I've been saying all along:
JustBeenPaid - justbeenpaid.com (http://www.moneymakergroup.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=329007&view=findpost&p=6745533)

All this obsessive need to talk crap about the MMB and make false accusations, because I was offering a more 'neutral' opinion on this crackpot forum. Geez!

MMB


LOL, You are good are providing comic relief drain. Just been paid is close to being done for.

Lil Ol' Radical Me
03-06-2012, 09:58 AM
Ah... the good ole brainless professor. It doesn't bother you one bit that you're being played like a sucker by a bloody fool. Even when I am showing irrefutable proof that Lynndel "Lynn" Edgington has been playing around under some anonymous account named "BAYLEE", you look the other way, and just spew more crap about me. Isn't that peculiar?? I just wonder why? LOL!!

MMB

We Are All Lynndel Edgington

Duh? MMB try and work this one out....no one gives a flying one if all posters are Lynn or Bugs Bunny. What they do find interesting is the data or lack of it to explain why Just Been Paid can produce the 2% daily return without being a scam (and Fred Mann by default, a scammer) If Mighty Mouse can provide the explanation, then I am happy to believe him. So far all we have seen so far are red flags on Just Been Paid.

Geddit? No?.... I didn't think so....(sigh)

ProfHenryHiggins
03-06-2012, 10:03 AM
Ah... the good ole brainless professor. It doesn't bother you one bit that you're being played like a sucker by a bloody fool. Even when I am showing irrefutable proof that Lynndel "Lynn" Edgington has been playing around under some anonymous account named "BAYLEE", you look the other way, and just spew more crap about me. Isn't that peculiar?? I just wonder why? LOL!!

MMB

Does http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ObfuscatingStupidity sound familiar?

MoneyMakingBrain
03-06-2012, 10:11 AM
Just been paid is close to being done for.

It maybe so, Lynn. You can absolutely be very right about that. But, that's not the issue anymore now, is it? Why don't you tell "users", besides you and I in this thread, the exact day of closing? Or, maybe you are saving that information for your next book.

I am completely OK with you, exposing the scams and the scammers on the web. What I am appalled of is at the egregious abuse of forum privileges and your sock puppetry conducted on your crackpot forum. I'm appalled how nobody can talk anything to the contrary, etc. How is there ever gonna be an honest conversation about anything here, when it seems you want to be, the lawyer, the jury, the judge and the executioner? Ha? Seriously, how can you get up every morning and look your wife in the eyes, kiss her, and say "honey, I am going to work now". According to some of your posts, you had too many sleepless nights.

You better beg that nobody reads my blog, because they'll be disappointed of you. And that's putting it mildly.

Creating Content Out of Thin Air: Lynn "Desperado" Edgington: no escape (http://moneymakinbrain.blogspot.com/2012/03/lynn-desperado-edgington-no-escape.html)

MMB

Lil Ol' Radical Me
03-06-2012, 11:53 AM
Originally Posted by baylee
Just been paid is close to being done for.
It maybe so, Lynn. You can absolutely be very right about that. But, that's not the issue anymore now, is it?

Who says so? MMB himself? Just Been Paid and it's legitimacy or lack of it is still very much the issue. That's why we are still here and posting.

Geddit this time? Still no?....oh well...

laidback
03-06-2012, 12:09 PM
Who says so? MMB himself? Just Been Paid and it's legitimacy or lack of it is still very much the issue. That's why we are still here and posting.

Geddit this time? Still no?....oh well...

Actually, LRM, Lynn, SBM, me, and MonkeyLameBrain, are all one and the same...,! It is just a ploy to bring as much attention as possible to JBP so the authorities will step up their efforts to stop that lying, thieving scammer Frederic Mann before his ponzi collapses under its own weight! ( Hey... This theory has more fact supporting it than the drivel MoronicMonkeyBrain has posted...!):loser:

Lil Ol' Radical Me
03-06-2012, 12:18 PM
Actually, LRM, Lynn, SBM, me, and MonkeyLameBrain, are all one and the same...,! It is just a ploy to bring as much attention as possible to JBP so the authorities will step up their efforts to stop that lying, thieving scammer Frederic Mann before his ponzi collapses under its own weight! ( Hey... This theory has more fact supporting it than the drivel MoronicMonkeyBrain has posted...!):loser:

I agree with me. OMG talking to myself again...

baylee
03-06-2012, 12:27 PM
We Are All Lynndel Edgington

Duh? MMB try and work this one out....no one gives a flying one if all posters are Lynn or Bugs Bunny. What they do find interesting is the data or lack of it to explain why Just Been Paid can produce the 2% daily return without being a scam (and Fred Mann by default, a scammer) If Mighty Mouse can provide the explanation, then I am happy to believe him. So far all we have seen so far are red flags on Just Been Paid.

Geddit? No?.... I didn't think so....(sigh)

And there are more and more red flags every day from the scam JBP!

MoneyMakingBrain
03-06-2012, 01:22 PM
Actually, LRM, Lynn, SBM, me, and MonkeyLameBrain, are all one and the same...,! It is just a ploy to bring as much attention as possible to JBP so the authorities will step up their efforts to stop that lying, thieving scammer Frederic Mann before his ponzi collapses under its own weight! ( Hey... This theory has more fact supporting it than the drivel MoronicMonkeyBrain has posted...!):loser:

....says "laidback", the sock puppet that Lynn denied LOL!!!

Carry on talking to yourself like the lunatic you are, because the real 'talk' about "Lynn", it's taking place somewhere else (search, the web, search the web :)

MMB

MoneyMakingBrain
03-06-2012, 01:37 PM
And there are more and more red flags every day from the scam JBP!

Lynn, how many books did you sell per day? Can you tell us? Got a day job? I am getting paid at your expense, do you know? You keep giving MMB more and more material to write about and the reality is, we should be talking about JBP in this thread, not you. But as long as your army of socks and meat puppets continue to post here, there won't be a "real" discussion. What a hypocrite and a fraud you are, Sir. Accusing others of being dishonest while you march on (with drum rolls in the background) carrying this banner of "justice" and while engaging in dishonest and abusive tactics of your own, on this site and other places. You are a disgrace and that's not funny anymore.

Keep digging yourself in this hole that you'll never be able to get out from!

MMB

Soapboxmom
03-06-2012, 02:19 PM
This MMB is even nuttier than the de Rothschild gang, Darnell and Weinzierl combined!

Soapboxmom