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Doc Bunkum
06-28-2010, 09:00 PM
Well, here's a switch!

George advertising scam.com on one his favorite porn forums - instead of advertising porn links on scam.com!

http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg436/emperormaximus/geoG.jpg?t=1277776522

Nice father figure - his kids not even in first grade and they're watching porn films together!

Soapboxmom
06-28-2010, 09:05 PM
Oh dear, is that guerilla, gorilla or just George of the Jungle? Heavens!

Soapboxmom

boomer
06-28-2010, 09:06 PM
Well, here's a switch!

George advertising scam.com on one his favorite porn forums - instead of advertising porn links on scam.com!

http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg436/emperormaximus/geoG.jpg?t=1277776522

Nice father figure - his kids not even in first grade and they're watching porn films together!


Len Clements has to be proud being the right hand man (no pun intended) to a Porn Mogul who doubts he can keep his toddler son from watching porn.

Nice job Len! You actually went to great lengths to track this guy down so you could beg him for an unpaid Admin job on a site you despise. I think your Psychologist needs you on autoship!

Doc Bunkum
06-28-2010, 09:48 PM
I suppose to be fair, George doesn't out and out say he watches porn films with his kid.

But from what I've seen of the guy, I can imagine spending quality time with his son means watching Naked News together.

boomer
06-28-2010, 09:54 PM
I suppose to be fair, George doesn't out and out say he watches porn films with his kid.

But from what I've seen of the guy, I can imagine spending quality time with his son means watching Naked News together.

Understood, but look at his post. I honestly don't know a single parent that is concerned about their kid watching porn prior to the first grade. Now if his kid simply watches his Daddy earn a living I guess this might be a very valid concern.

Doc Bunkum
06-29-2010, 06:42 AM
Len Clements has to be proud being the right hand man (no pun intended) to a Porn Mogul

Yes, I realize there was no pun intended.

Still, your comment can't help bringing to mind another of George's user names - Jerky LeBoeuf! :D

Soapboxmom
07-02-2010, 06:48 PM
07-01-2010, 06:56 AM
Zachary
Admin Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Lisbao, Portugal
Posts: 15
Blog Entries: 1


Re: Len Clement Has Been Banned?

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He seemed like a nice guy on the phone, he did alot of work. I didn't realize the drama he carried with him. I personally have nothing against him. At the time we were getting THOUSANDS of auto spam bots posting each day and I was close to shutting down the site from all the porn and pill links. He stepped up and helped out alot. I didn't closely monitor his actions. I will take the blame for that.
Does George think we are retarded or something or is he just finally going to prove to us once and for all how retarded he is? When he made Lenny a Mod the crap hit the fan and the MLM forum Mods had to deal with a deluge of complaints, threads and posts from very angry posters.

If George had read Len's posts he would have seen how he attempted to out posters on there and known I had threatened to ban him if it didn't cease immediately. He would have seen the total disrespect Lenny showed to anyone who disagreed with him. He would have seen just how Lenny bad mouthed Scam all over the net.

NMH banned the dirtball, I banned his addtional username and Stephanie banned that one again. I sent George many PMs, emails, a message on Facebook, a message at guerillatraffic.com and an e-mail to the address at goharddotcom. I quoted and linked where Lenny tried to out posters and railed against anonymous trolls. I quoted and linked where Lenny called Scam a "cesspool" filled with "troll dung" and garbage.

George ignored me, Stephanie and gobs of others and made that nutbag Lenny an admin. I left and was generously offered the position as admin here. George ignored Scam while it started its historic plunge down the sewer with Len at the helm. Lenny wanted all the Scam MLM threads off of the first page of Google as I quoted and linked for George before he brought Lenny back. And, guess what? Lenny actually got exactly what he set out to do easily accomplished.

Now, George has another site right here that will be some real competition for him and he has the dishonest and manipulative Stephanie back in charge. We all know the problems caused by her "authority" issues!

As to the other fiction Geroge posted, well.... I moderated for a year and a half and was on for hours a day every day. Scam had one major attack and a spambot at one IP registered a new username every minute for several hours before Zachary / George finally banned the IP. Not a single post went up. We new Mods in 2009 cleaned up tens of thousands of spam posts. The hotel forum went from 60 to 2 pages after the hundreds of pill and porn threads were deleted by us newbies. After that thorough cleaning we watched constantly. The Russian porn spammers would be banned before they could post as I could see the porn links in their sigs and homepages as I carefully watched the Who's Online list.

Once we were experienced we could delete the spam and ban the bots very quickly. At most there would be dozens as in less than one hundred spam posts in a day. "At the time we were getting THOUSANDS of auto spam bots posting each day," is a complete piece of nonsense. Spambot posts may not be visible to members as the software will put up posts with links for moderation if it is a new poster, but the Mods immediately see them and they are easily zapped. Why he would lie about that I can't imagine.

I watched Lenny and I don't believe for a second he was helping out with the spam. He spent all his time making a horse's rear out of himself. He didn't respond to spam reports, which I was getting until 2 days ago mind you. More lies and delusions.

That site is a joke and with George not on for days or even weeks at a time then who was handling these alleged attacks. Only an admin can ban those bots by IP. Lenny could probably have done it too if he had bothered to familiarize himself with the software, but Steph claims he couldn't do it and I sure didn't see a lick of evidence he was doing anything constructive at that "cesspool." I sure checked that out to make sure I was prepared to do some real work here when it was needed.

Soapboxmom

Soapboxmom
07-02-2010, 06:58 PM
The important issue is George let someone he knew nothing about on as an admin. Many folks have an e-mail that includes their real names. With that and an IP address scumbags like Lenny can track down posters and out them. He and those MLMs and cash gifting schemes etc. could file frivolous lawsuits costing honest scambusters tens of thousands in legal fees as happened to me. I won the case, but it costs tens of thousands to prove I had never made a false statement and to preserve my posts.

Dirtballs would love to harvest posters information so they can put all scambusters out of business. I would recommend that anyone over there think about this carefully. Change their e-mail address to a dummy one and then never post on that cesspool again. George can't be trusted to choose help that is trustworthy and honest. He doesn't care one iota about his fine members as he has demonstrated repeatedly. Remember the mumbles and ohein56 moderator fiascos?

I can assure folks that here they have people who can be trusted at the helm and can rest assured that no one will be "hired" unless the owner and admins are sure that person can be trusted and is here to truly serve our valued members.

Thanks for visiting and hopefully becoming a contributing member to our site. We promise it will be a totally different experience than what you might remember from Scam!

Soapboxmom

A Life Aloft
07-02-2010, 08:05 PM
Dirtballs would love to harvest posters information so they can put all scambusters out of business. I would recommend that anyone over there think about this carefully. Change their e-mail address to a dummy one and then never post on that cesspool again.
Soapboxmom EXCELLENT advice!! That is exactly what I did the day that Len was made an Admin. He had been trying to out posters on that site for months and it frustrated him to no end. He had also already threatened members there. He is a desperate (we have seen this in action - have we not) egomanical, con artist, who wants to supress any and all of his critics and will stop at nothing to accompish this. I truly believe that. Look at his behavior everywhere on the internet. Says all I need to know. I believe he is actually a sociopath.

As for George, well we know he is a liar, a fraud and pond scum. He would sell his Mother for a buck. Enough said.

Unsaved Trash
07-02-2010, 08:13 PM
As for George, well we know he is a liar, a fraud and pond scum. He would sell his Mother for a buck. Enough said.

I think you might have over-estimated the price he would place on his mother. Bet he would take a nickle. George Dranichak is in porn. A woman isn't worth that much to him. As a matter of fact, more like a dime a dozen.

Sojustask
07-02-2010, 08:50 PM
My god you guys are paranoid. Thousands of people have been registered on that site for years, literally, and suddenly their email addresses are in danger of being harvested? LOL. What will you think of next? You all crack me up.

Soapboxmom
07-02-2010, 09:06 PM
You, dear, should check out the admin panel sometime here is the one important button:

Users

Add New User

Search for Users

Merge Users

Ban User

Prune / Move Users

Private Message Statistics

Referrals

Search IP Addresses

View Banned Users

Send Email to Users

Generate Mailing List

Check Vulnerable Passwords

Access Masks
Supermods can search for users and Admins can generate mailing lists. George will let any schmuck that comes along have access to everyone's information and that is inexcusable.

Soapboxmom

A Life Aloft
07-02-2010, 09:09 PM
Herpes. I have never had any personal experience with this disease, but from what I understand and have read, it is very much unwanted, unneeded and despised. You can never seem to totally rid yourself of it no matter how hard you try, it will follow you the rest of your days. It never seems to go away even though you wish it would, and you never know when it will rear it's ugly head and show up unexpectantly and uninvited. When you see it, you freak and feel the need for a shower. It makes you feel ill. It's a real social pariah. You wonder why it just doesn't go and plague someone else, somewhere else. Yet, it keeps coming back. It can make a great day, bad. It does it's dirty little deed and then scurries back into the dark from whence it came, just hiding and lurking, waiting to attack another day.

Mike!
07-02-2010, 09:23 PM
I'm not completely sure the Herpes virus would appreciate the comparison you're implying there.
:RpS_cursing:

A Life Aloft
07-02-2010, 09:30 PM
I'm not completely sure the Herpes virus would appreciate the comparison you're implying there.
:RpS_cursing:Why Mike, what are you implying? Some diseases just cannot take the hint can they? ROTFL! The happy news, is that there is always a cure, sooner or later.

Sojustask
07-02-2010, 09:50 PM
Herpes. I have never had any personal experience with this disease, but from what I understand and have read, it is very much unwanted, unneeded and despised. You can never seem to totally rid yourself of it no matter how hard you try, it will follow you the rest of your days. It never seems to go away even though you wish it would, and you never know when it will rear it's ugly head and show up unexpectantly and uninvited. When you see it, you freak and feel the need for a shower. It makes you feel ill. It's a real social pariah. You wonder why it just doesn't go and plague someone else, somewhere else. Yet, it keeps coming back. It can make a great day, bad. It does it's dirty little deed and then scurries back into the dark from whence it came, just hiding and lurking, waiting to attack another day.

Really? Because, you talk like someone with personal experience. It must be hard on your love life.

A Life Aloft
07-02-2010, 10:16 PM
What was I just saying.....herpes is truly a dreaded disease. It is a scoruge, a horrible blight, a bane and a curse. It will lay waste to anything it touches. It will rear it's extremely ugly head at any time and cause pain, distress and misery whenever it does so. Herpes is an outcast, un-wished for and superfluous. It contributes nothing of meaning, value or importance. Yet it causes disruption, discourse and chaos wherever it attacks. One could almost feel sorry for herpes, being that it is so hated and distained. However, you cannot forgive such a terrible disease nor forget what it has reeked and continues to inflict on others. But then you realize that a cure will be found and found sooner than later. Meanwhile, you hope for remission and patiently wait because you know that herpe's days, which are numbered, that it will be eradicated, once and for all for the betterment of mankind.

Sojustask
07-02-2010, 10:29 PM
LOL, touche' life aloft. Don't hold your breath while you wait.

Doc Bunkum
07-02-2010, 10:36 PM
Herpes is an outcast, un-wished for and superfluous. It contributes nothing of meaning, value or importance. Yet it causes disruption, discourse and chaos wherever it attacks. One could almost feel sorry for herpes, being that it is so hated and distained.

Uh, ALA, are you using herpes as a metaphor for something (someone) else? :RpS_smile:

A Life Aloft
07-02-2010, 10:39 PM
Uh, ALA, are you using herpes as a metaphor for something (someone) else? :RpS_smile:Hmmm Doc, whatever do you mean? lmao

Sojustask
07-03-2010, 12:04 AM
Hmmm Doc, whatever do you mean? lmao

Like I said, Cupcake, don't hold your breath. I kind of find you amusing.

Lisa
07-03-2010, 12:28 AM
I'm in no way defending George...

But finding things he posted on the internet years ago and then acting like what he did was absolutely horrible then going on and on and on about it... well it's not really making you guys look that good if I'm being entirely honest.

IF I was a new visitor at scam.com and I saw someone's link in their signature to this site and decided to check it out, I would be extremely unimpressed. There is a constant reference to scam.com here and it seems as if you guys can't move on.

You have a new site here, a new opportunity, and a chance to actually show off your scambusting chops. Why continue wasting your time on George and scam.com??

A Life Aloft
07-03-2010, 12:45 AM
Herpes is so insistent in the spread of misery that it forces itself upon the naive and the innocent. Herpes is also very deceptive and no one should be led astray or fooled into complacency because this hideous, repulsive, vitriolic disease never stays dormat for long. That is part of herpe's true evil and repulsive nature. It makes itself known in vile and cruel ways. It seeks a monstrous control and a pestiferous unwelcome influence upon it's victims. Herpes is forever an outcast, a deciever and a conniver. But herpes, will never be victorious. It will in the end, be obliterated. I feel a cure is inevitable. Incredible discoveries are being made every day.

Sojustask
07-03-2010, 07:44 AM
I'm in no way defending George...

But finding things he posted on the internet years ago and then acting like what he did was absolutely horrible then going on and on and on about it... well it's not really making you guys look that good if I'm being entirely honest.

IF I was a new visitor at scam.com and I saw someone's link in their signature to this site and decided to check it out, I would be extremely unimpressed. There is a constant reference to scam.com here and it seems as if you guys can't move on.

You have a new site here, a new opportunity, and a chance to actually show off your scambusting chops. Why continue wasting your time on George and scam.com??

Oh look, Lisa! Aloft loves you too, you little virus you. ROFL

Until recently, no one gave a rip what George did or if he was Zachary or not. Only when he made the mistake of making Len the Admin did it become an issue. And that's pretty sad because Len is gone. Bugging the hell out of me in email but at least he's not creating problems on the forum. A Life Aloft is just going to have to grow up eventually and do some scambusting or something worthwhile to make himself look less like a bitter old man and more like a well rounded individual.

I'm not here to change this site. This is SBM's domain and I've very glad that it was created and she is able to run it. I'm also grateful that I have a place to come where I don't have to wear a Moderator's cap. Where, if I do get into a debate with someone they can't use the excuse that they couldn't beat me fair and square because they feared I would ban them. We are on equal footing here and that's nice.

Doc Bunkum
07-03-2010, 08:45 AM
Until recently, no one gave a rip what George did or if he was Zachary or not.

Until recently, everyone thought the owner of the forum was some guy named Zachary living in Portugal.

Threads such as Scam.com being sold (http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=7090&) and Happy Birthday,George! YOU OLD *******! (http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=8719&) helped create the deception.

But it didn't take long after Lenny showed up that everyone knew the owner of the forum was really George Dranichak and that the forum had never been sold. All his carefully laid plans for privacy and anonymity vanished, thanks mainly to Lenny's doing.

Everything with Len Clements is like a Chinese fire drill.

I mentioned before the guy has the Inverse Midas Touch. Everything he touches turns to **** rather than gold.

As I'm sure George is well aware of by now. :RpS_laugh:

Emet
07-03-2010, 09:02 AM
A Life Aloft is just going to have to grow up eventually and do some scambusting or something worthwhile to make himself look less like a bitter old man and more like a well rounded individual.


Really?

http://www.realscam.com/f9/false-lines-used-mlms-135/

http://www.realscam.com/f9/mlms-cults-129/

http://www.realscam.com/f9/sound-familiar-130/

http://techbuddha.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/vader-fail.jpg

Sojustask
07-03-2010, 09:02 AM
Until recently, everyone thought the owner of the forum was some guy named Zachary living in Portugal.

Threads such as Scam.com being sold (http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=7090&) and Happy Birthday,George! YOU OLD *******! (http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=8719&) helped create the deception.

But it didn't take long after Lenny showed up that everyone knew the owner of the forum was really George Dranichak and that the forum had never been sold. All his carefully laid plans for privacy and anonymity vanished, thanks mainly to Lenny's doing.

Everything with Len Clements is like a Chinese fire drill.

I mentioned before the guy has the Inverse Midas Touch. Everything he touches turns to **** rather than gold.

As I'm sure George is well aware of by now. :RpS_laugh:

I'm sure he is. :)

Lil Ol' Radical Me
07-03-2010, 09:05 AM
Ok, lets keep the thread on topic.


Until recently, no one gave a rip what George did or if he was Zachary or not. Only when he made the mistake of making Len the Admin did it become an issue. And that's pretty sad because Len is gone

It's got nothing to do with Len Clements (except that he was the one who inadvertently brought the isssue to light).

The majority of us didnt even know about the ownership of scam.com and its owners links with the porn industry.

Now we all know and some of us do not like it one bit.

Georges site is on the list of the top 200 spammers in the world. Various options on his sites' control panels give him the opportunity to harvest emails and send out his spam. We have, for the second time in a few short months, links to porn sites in the body of our posts at scamdot.com. It isnt a question of morality - each to their own. It is because porn sites are notorious for spam and for evil wevils in their links and emails. Most people try to avoid clicking on them to keep their computers clean. And now they are on scam.com???

Seems like posting on or viewing any of Geore's sites, including scam.com will now require us to run yet another anti spam/anti spyware and anti virus program.

Dont you find that a little ironic when it concerns a "consumer protection" site?

Sojustask
07-03-2010, 09:10 AM
Really?

http://www.realscam.com/f9/false-lines-used-mlms-135/

http://www.realscam.com/f9/mlms-cults-129/

http://www.realscam.com/f9/sound-familiar-130/


Oh, I was unaware that this is what passed for scambusting these days. I retract my previous comment.

Sojustask
07-03-2010, 09:15 AM
Ok, lets keep the thread on topic.



It's got nothing to do with Len Clements (except that he was the one who inadvertently brought the isssue to light).

The majority of us didnt even know about the ownership of scam.com and its owners links with the porn industry.

Now we all know and some of us do not like it one bit.

Georges site is on the list of the top 200 spammers in the world. Various options on his sites' control panels give him the opportunity to harvest emails and send out his spam. We have, for the second time in a few short months, links to porn sites in the body of our posts at scamdot.com. It isnt a question of morality - each to their own. It is because porn sites are notorious for spam and for evil wevils in their links and emails. Most people try to avoid clicking on them to keep their computers clean. And now they are on scam.com???

Seems like posting on or viewing any of Geore's sites, including scam.com will now require us to run yet another anti spam/anti spyware and anti virus program.

Dont you find that a little ironic when it concerns a "consumer protection" site?

Alaysia,

I've always found it ironic to call these sites "consumer protection" sites to begin with, when the bulk of the conversations have nothing to do with protecting consumers.

I don't click links, ergo, I don't get viruses on my computer.

Lil Ol' Radical Me
07-03-2010, 09:26 AM
Alaysia,

I've always found it ironic to call these sites "consumer protection" sites to begin with, when the bulk of the conversations have nothing to do with protecting consumers.

I don't click links, ergo, I don't get viruses on my computer.

I couldnt agree with you more, Consumer Protection is hardly an adequate description of what has been going on over the past couple of years at scam.com

And you may not click links, but, luckily for George and his comrades, there are plenty of people who do.

Soapboxmom
07-03-2010, 12:21 PM
"Even though SlickCash is a competitor of mine, I consider them a reputable company; and also a friend.Incredible integrity, immediate online attention via icq, and great converting websites. It is always a pleasure doing business with these guys".

George Duane Dranichak
President GuerillaTraffic.com
Yikes!

Soapboxmom

A Life Aloft
07-03-2010, 12:49 PM
A Life Aloft is just going to have to grow up eventually and do some scambusting or something worthwhile to make himself look less like a bitter old man and more like a well rounded individual.
And what exactly have you contributed to this site since you came here? NOTHING! Oh wait, you have lied your ass off, made excuses for yourself and for George, slammed the site, SBM and the members, baited members and the Mods and not made one worthwhile or meaningful post to date.

Interesting, that with all the thousands of sites on the internet, you come here. If anyone is bitter, it is you, Cupcake. You can't leave people or this site alone because of that. Instead you come here like an unneeded plague and continue to pull the same bullshit that many of us experienced on Scam from you. We didn't come here for Lady Bitch part duo. You are a nasty, evil person and that will never change. If anyone buys into the b.s. that you are anything else, then they don't really know what you are, your history, what you have done and continue to do.

Mods used to post at Scam as themselves all the time and even posted about doing that. They had no problems giving their opinions and joining in on plenty of threads as posters and members. So if you interested in posting about Scams or anything else, you could do that there or any other forum. So your entire statement is bullshit, as usual. Don't try and play Miss Innocent. It won't work.

A leopard does not change it's spots dear, and neither will you. You are the same condescending, lying asshole that you always were. You are nothing but the last piece of unwanted trash leftover from Scam and that is all you will ever be. You are right about one thing, this is not your playground and you have no power here. Your bullying and continued lies won't fly here, sweet cheeks.

Sojustask
07-03-2010, 02:27 PM
And what exactly have you contributed to this site since you came here? NOTHING! Oh wait, you have lied your ass off, made excuses for yourself and for George, slammed the site, SBM and the members, baited members and the Mods and not made one worthwhile or meaningful post to date.

Interesting, that with all the thousands of sites on the internet, you come here. If anyone is bitter, it is you, Cupcake. You can't leave people or this site alone because of that. Instead you come here like an unneeded plague and continue to pull the same bullshit that many of us experienced on Scam from you. We didn't come here for Lady Bitch part duo. You are a nasty, evil person and that will never change. If anyone buys into the b.s. that you are anything else, then they don't really know what you are, your history, what you have done and continue to do.

Mods used to post at Scam as themselves all the time and even posted about doing that. They had no problems giving their opinions and joining in on plenty of threads as posters and members. So if you interested in posting about Scams or anything else, you could do that there or any other forum. So your entire statement is bullshit, as usual. Don't try and play Miss Innocent. It won't work.

A leopard does not change it's spots dear, and neither will you. You are the same condescending, lying asshole that you always were. You are nothing but the last piece of unwanted trash leftover from Scam and that is all you will ever be. You are right about one thing, this is not your playground and you have no power here. Your bullying and continued lies won't fly here, sweet cheeks.


A) You have an odd way of defining bullying.
B) I have been as open as a person can be on this forum.
C) I've contributed posts that are probably on the same caliber as you, Dumplin'
D) I never said that Mods didn't post as themselves on scam.com. Go back and read what I said.
And since you supposedly know me so well, then if you were honest you would also know that
when an opponent has feared they are being beaten they immediately pulled the "you're the Mod" card.
I figure you were one of those opponents and still licking your wounds. It's just a forum, let it go already.
E) I still find you amusing. I find anyone that can hold onto so much hate for so long, pretty amusing.

A Life Aloft
07-03-2010, 02:39 PM
A) You are so accustomed to bullying and being a condescending asshole, because it is second nature to you. It's who you are. You have never been able to see your own **** behavior. Nothings changes with you.
B) You have lied your ass off.
C) You have contributed nothing here, except to be a first class bitch.
D) "You are not the Mod card?" WTF are you talking about? ROTFL! I have no "wounds" to lick. The sight of you just makes me extremely nauseated. By the way, you wil never be on "equal footing" with anyone here.
E) There is nothing amusing about your presence here, Cupcake. You will never be forgiven. Never. Get used to it.

Sojustask
07-03-2010, 02:43 PM
A) You are so accustomed to bullying, because it is second nature to you. You have never been able to see your own **** behavior. Nothings changes with you.
B) You have lied your ass off.
C) You have contributed nothing here, except to be a first class bitch.
D) "You are not the Mod card?" WTF are you talking about? ROTFL! I have no "wounds" to lick. The site of you just makes me extremely nauseated. By the way, you wil never be on "equal footing" with anyone here.
E) There is nothing amusing about your presence here, Cupcake. You will never be forgiven. Never. Get used to it.

Maybe you need to come back to earth, aloft. You are wrong on all accounts, but why argue those facts?

See you around.

A Life Aloft
07-03-2010, 02:44 PM
You can't argue the facts and the truth, that's the point. Head back to your cesspool, where you belong. You still have a handful of members left there willing to kiss your humongous ass.

Sojustask
07-03-2010, 02:53 PM
You can't argue the facts and the truth, that's the point. Head back to your cesspool, where you belong.You still have a handful of members left there to kiss your humongous ass.

And bow to your wishes? Not a chance in Hell, sweetling. I'm having too much fun. Kiss, kiss.

A Life Aloft
07-03-2010, 03:23 PM
Same here, Your Lowliness. You deserve whatever you get, as you are now reaping exactly what you have sown for so very long, Dumpling. Karma is a real bitch, much like yourself, Doublewide Cakes.

Sojustask
07-03-2010, 03:28 PM
Same here, Your Lowliness. You deserve whatever you get, as you are now reaping exactly what you have sown for so very long, Dumpling. Karma is a real bitch, much like yourself, Doublewide Cakes.

LOL......And, what exactly am I reaping that is so Karmatic?

Inquiring minds want to know.

A Life Aloft
07-03-2010, 04:00 PM
ROTFL! You play the poor widdle innocent victim again? Sorry, that **** won't fly with most of us. Hmmmmm let's see.....how about all the posts, emails, pms and proof (of which they held back plenty) provided by former Scam Mods and members on the Quataloos forum in three threads and here on several threads. Turning a blind eye and pretending that none of your behavior ever happened won't help your pathetic self now, bitch. The truth has been posted and posted ad nauseum. It's been made public and everyone has read the information. Everyone has witnessed your abuse and your pathetic, lame abilities as a Mod. You're a joke. A bad joke. You got beaten so badly, that you contacted Tom and begged for a truce. Then you turned around (no suprprise considering what kind of an asshole you really are) and broke that truce. There is no escape for what you have done and continue to do. You know exactly what I mean. Your little game playing bullshit isn't working too well is it? You cannot undo the past nor the present. There are no do overs for you, Cupcake. Keep up the lying, phony facade. Let's see how well that goes. LMAO!

Lisa
07-03-2010, 05:09 PM
Look, LM will come back with a few more sweetie's and one liners, you'll continue to reference herpes and call her names ALA...

Why don't we just skip a few steps and both of you put each other on ignore?

As for George and his spamming and links to porn... it's George's life. It's George's site. He pays the bills, he has the right to do whatever he wants with his website. If he wants to make money by pushing porn and spamming people, that's his choice. I don't see why so many of you care so much. And in all the years I've been a member of scam, never once have I received any porn spam caused by my membership there.

Sojustask
07-03-2010, 05:26 PM
ROTFL! You play the poor widdle innocent victim again? Sorry, that **** won't fly with most of us. Hmmmmm let's see.....how about all the posts, emails, pms and proof (of which they held back plenty) provided by former Scam Mods and members on the Quataloos forum in three threads and here on several threads. Turning a blind eye and pretending that none of your behavior ever happened won't help your pathetic self now, bitch. The truth has been posted and posted ad nauseum. It's been made public and everyone has read the information. Everyone has witnessed your abuse and your pathetic, lame abilities as a Mod. You're a joke. A bad joke. You got beaten so badly, that you contacted Tom and begged for a truce. Then you turned around (no suprprise considering what kind of an asshole you really are) and broke that truce. There is no escape for what you have done and continue to do. You know exactly what I mean. Your little game playing bullshit isn't working too well is it? You cannot undo the past nor the present. There are no do overs for you, Cupcake. Keep up the lying, phony facade. Let's see how well that goes. LMAO!

Ahh, I see your reading comprehension skills aren't too sharp. I did NOT ask what evidence was brought against me that made me good or bad, evil or not. And I haven't begged anyone for a truce, not at all. Though that is irrelevant.

The question was, and read carefully and slowly now so you don't miss it.

"And, what exactly am I reaping that is so Karmatic?"

When you can manage to answer the question, pumpkin, let me know.

Soapboxmom
07-03-2010, 06:00 PM
All this boils down to trust, integrity and honesty. All that evidence you mentioned tells folks exactly who has been honest and can be trusted. Need I say more???

Soapboxmom

A Life Aloft
07-03-2010, 06:09 PM
Let's look at just a few of your recent lies and b.s. behavior from Scam for instance, Bitch: (Your Responses Bolded)

Originally Posted by cyclemaster
No, Len it has absolutely nothing to do with traffic since it is clear the traffic is going down and more to do with spam bots and not administrating the forum. I heard SBM was amazing at doing the dirty work and keeping the bots at bay, but ever since she was banned it appears that these types of issues no longer get attention. Maybe shoot her an email and she will give you some insight on how to clean up this issue.

"Mumbles kept them at bay. I think you ought to be listening to something else for awhile.
In an email to me just a few weeks ago she said she was only on here a few hours a day. Now if she was telling the truty, and why wouldn't she, then she couldn't have spent near the time she was spending busting scams and cleaning the forum."

Originally Posted by wishfulthinking
You are? I've been reading about Broker Jones and reading his own spiel for some time now. Then I see a thread deleted and another thread defending his right to protection from personal attacks. Broker Jones is only his online brand name - his business identity and that is the only thing I saw questioned. Since when did scam.com give the benefit of the doubt to someone who, at best, has been an abject failure in his business judgements and certainly not an example to follow, in favor of those who write here to try to warn people against schemes that, apart from probably being illegal, will almost certainly cause them to lose money?

"I was asked if that thread could be deleted because it was attacks on the man, not the business. I ALLOWED it after skimming through the thread, because I KNOW there are many members here who could expose that business as a scam while staying within the new rules."

Originally Posted by Hopeful Cynic
Sorry LM, but if you can forgive a South Park reference then I'm calling Shenanigans on your post.

A link to the thread in question is right here. Perhaps you can donate some of your time to support what you have posted here by providing quotes from the thread you mentioned to support your comments here. Did anyone claim that you banned No_Mo or that if someone else hadn't done it that you would have?

Call Shenanigans all you want Hopeful, the PM is quoted verbatum below:

Quote:
Originally Posted by No_Moron_Here
Thank you and actually she did lie.

Without getting into a pissing match, she's one of the most ego driven people I know. Not ONCE did she thank us for cleaning up the site or trying to restore or maintain order. Rather she returned to the site only after she resigned (the one she allowed to be totally overridden with spam and crap during her watch. Once cleaned up, she returned to reclaim her crown. She undermined us at every turn and is continuing to do so. She has unbanned people, she has deleted important threads out of pure spite that she knows Soapboxmom needed for her current litigation, and she's just plain an unpleasant woman and hateful to the core. Not only do I totally despise her, but what's worse is I don't respect her one bit. When she banned SBM, the majority of the mods left. She also ran off most of the past mods including a great supermod, Subjunk. He couldn't deal with her either. View the "forum leaders" list over at scam.com. Of all of those listed, there are only two active mods left, mumbles and Blue Crab. The rest retired or resigned with the exception of Katies Corner who does nothing. Most of THAT is all Lady Mod's doings, not George's. Hopeful Cynic, SBM, and Biblman left because of her and only because of her.

As you can clearly see from her message, she still has to get in her digs. She's evil and she is now paying the price. But it's only just begun. As for my ego, it's intact. I did the right thing by attempting to protect the membership. She could have cared less as long as her "majesty" was addressed properly. I knew the consequences of banning Lenny so I resigned the minute I banned him, changed my signature line, deactived my email account, and shut off my PMs. It took two weeks before I was banned, the very day Len was made an ADMIN. I'm not bitter, I'm pissed. We were betrayed, all of us as members.


Sounds like sour apples doesn't it? And my dig was to the Admin's and Owner's tender egos. Not his.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hopeful Cynic
First, does any post in that thread claim that our esteemed Bibleman left because of you? Second, while I'm sure you know him better than I do one thing I did know in relation to him is that he never wished to make his military service a topic on this forum. It isn't that he isn't proud of his service, he has an exceeding right to be proud of it but as I was made to understand it was his choice not to make his duty status an issue on this forum. I took that as the kind of humility and sense of honor that makes me proud of the taxes I pay to fund men like him. I could be mistaken in how he expressed a desire to keep that very admirable aspect of his life off this board but if I'm not then why is your post the only one I'm aware of that identifys him as such?

Didn't make it a topic, stated it as fact why he decided he must quit. I would have liked to have left him and the other Mods out of it, but you all are having quite a good time discussing my motives and actions on another board.

Quote:

"Many" is a relative term as I'm sure you'd agree. At least "some" of the moderators who left did so for a variation of the very same reason you yourself once most publicly did. Frustration with the owner.

I don't blame any that do, just don't blame me for it. I've had 5 years of frustration with the man, most of them have barely been around to know what true frustration is concerning the lack of communication.
The ones doing most of the complaining have only moderated what? A year? Going on 2? My heart bleeds for them, but not much.

Quote:
I posted a link to the Quatloos thread you mentioned so anyone with interest can compare what was said in that thread against what you claimed was said. Perhaps you can return that favor by providing links showing how the "two of them" broke the rules or applied them only with selective prejudice. I for one would like to see you substantiate your allegation. I can't speak for them but suspect the concern you express is misplaced.

If that is in fact their biggest problem then I expect a fairly stress free life for the both of them. But a better question might be, especially because a site like this one has no need for people like them, why do you feel the need to run them down the way you do? I mean there is a high road and there's nothing to stop you from taking it, but it still remains your choice. Why didn't you choose to take it?

I might ask the same question? The very first post by No Moron on the link you provide calls me a liar, questions my integrity, says I undermined them just to name a few things.

There's a high road? Really? Hopeful, I didn't leave the site and spend the last two weeks running it down because I didn't like the choice of Admin made here from the safety of another site. Maybe you should have a talk with them. I'm doing the job I was asked to do here, nothing more.

Like I mentioned before in this thread, Change is good, it has a way of sifting the chaff from the wheat and apparently most if it blew over to Quatloos where it continues to stew and make disgruntled posts.

Scam.com hasn't fallen apart. Instead of 10-12 complaints to my email address on a daily basis, now all I get is 2 at most. The doom and gloom they predict hasn't happened, imagine that? Despite what they would wish, this site will recover from any errors that have been made just like it has over the last 5 years. Of that, I have NO doubts.

BTW Heather and Tom,

Glad to see you kept the PM's. For what little they prove, it does show that you make regular visits back to this site. Thanks for boosting the stats.

Mumbles settled back down and I retracted the request he be removed.

You are very strange people to keep so many private messages. What do you do, keep them in a scrap book? Geez! Go through them daily to justify your reason for being?

Do either of you actually have a life beyond revenge and keeping stuff to post on websites?

Heather, I'm more than a biller, that's just one small job description I have at the clinic. I never claimed to be an expert in the medical field so I don't know what all your uproar is over whatever I post about anything in the medical field. I post my opinion and experience and whatever articles I post I include links to the references to the studies and articles about them.

You are by far, nothing close to being an expert in the MLM or legal field, yet take on airs because of 1 win, that you are? Maybe what is posted about you all over the Internet has some truth to it after all and I'm sure that must sting.

Happy posting you two. Some of us have work to tend to, cant sit at home all day OCDing on year old PM's and posts like people with revenge on their hearts seem prone to do.

From Hopeful Cynic:
I quoted you complaining that a specific thread over at Qualoos was filled with "half truths" and proceeding to provide, presumably examples of those half truths. I was merely pointing out that nothing in that thread (at that time) corresponded to what you were complaining about.

Sour apples perhaps, but certainly not an apples to apples comparison. The PM you quoted is not now, or then for that matter, a part of that thread on Quatloos so I fail to see how it supports your original contention.

My point was that a man who I'm quite certain is well respected by both of us asked me, and I presume you as well, to keep one aspect of his life private from this forum. In a seeming effort to discredit people critical of you, you violated that request. I find that in poor taste.

Yes, by all means let the FULL story be heard. But I linked to the second thread because it is the one you specifically complained about and who's content I believe you were misrepresenting. But thanks to your posts here new content has been added to that thread, if you choose to comment further it shouldn't be difficult for you to criticize what is actually posted there without needing to invent things.

Nothing more? You're amplifying the voices of your critics and despite the position of prominence you enjoy on this forum you seem intent on proving you are not morally superior to them. It's not very compelling to complain about them taking shots at you and getting their dig's in on another forum when you do the same to them on this forum. I'm sure 95% of the people reading the respective allegations get the same glazed look in their eyes that they'd get from witnessing an argument between a lobster pot pirate and a fishmonger's wife. I think both sides would improve their position by letting the matter drop. But you are the one in a position of authority on this forum, you have nothing to gain in this argument and unlike them, something to lose. Think about it.

Quote:
I posted a link to the Quatloos thread you mentioned so anyone with interest can compare what was said in that thread against what you claimed was said. Perhaps you can return that favor by providing links showing how the "two of them" broke the rules or applied them only with selective prejudice. I for one would like to see you substantiate your allegation.

Anyone who has been on this forum for the last year and read any number of threads knows what I am referring to. I see you only linked the second thread on Quatloos, here's the first:

http://quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopi...st=0&sk=t&sd=a

Let's give them the FULL story.


Quote:
I can't speak for them but suspect the concern you express is misplaced.

If that is in fact their biggest problem then I expect a fairly stress free life for the both of them. But a better question might be, especially because a site like this one has no need for people like them, why do you feel the need to run them down the way you do? I mean there is a high road and there's nothing to stop you from taking it, but it still remains your choice. Why didn't you choose to take it?

I might ask the same question? The very first post by No Moron on the link you provide calls me a liar, questions my integrity, says I undermined them just to name a few things.

There's a high road? Really? Hopeful, I didn't leave the site and spend the last two weeks running it down because I didn't like the choice of Admin made here from the safety of another site. Maybe you should have a talk with them. I'm doing the job I was asked to do here, nothing more.

Like I mentioned before in this thread, Change is good, it has a way of sifting the chaff from the wheat and apparently most if it blew over to Quatloos where it continues to stew and make disgruntled posts.

Scam.com hasn't fallen apart. Instead of 10-12 complaints to my email address on a daily basis, now all I get is 2 at most. The doom and gloom they predict hasn't happened, imagine that? Despite what they would wish, this site will recover from any errors that have been made just like it has over the last 5 years. Of that, I have NO doubts.

A Life Aloft
07-03-2010, 06:10 PM
Your responses are are bolded

Originally Posted by fastmoney
Some advice..

Make sure you understand your instructions... Because Len is going to push every single one of them to fit his needs and wants.. and then cry foul when you don't let him do what he wants to do..

Then he will deal with Zachary who has less patience than I do. When I was gone for an extended period before and SBM and No_Moron were complaining to Zachary about my heavy hand when I came back because I had gotten several emails about them were banning other moderators, this is what Zachary wrote to me:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zachary
Good to have you back. If any of these mods suck, let me know, I'll get rid of them.

He admitted the site looked much better since he mass hired them. But he wasn't looking for anyone to override my authority, I've been with him a long time. I'm the only Moderator on the site that never applied for the position. I was the first and only person who was asked to moderate.

Originally Posted by sojustask
Doc Bunkin is... such an attention whore.
Lady Mod

Doc's response:
Excuse me? BTW, the last name is Bunkum - not Bunkin

Whatever you wish, Cupcake.
Attention whore, you most definitely are. Only an attention whore instigates, makes trouble and disturbs **** and simply because they want the attention doing all of that awards them.

Sorry sweetie, but your behavior definitely fits the description.
Famous last words, hey Dumplin'?
Lady Mod

Originally Posted by Bruceinvt
I agree that some may 'work'. But you have to admit that many supplement/nutritional companys way exaggerate what they will/can do. Cure cancer, cure diabetes etc. Those of you with product you trust should go after the scammers - and if not you personally then the companies you are involved with should take a pro -active stance or you are all tarred by the same brush.

Bruce,

The problem is, nutritional supplements can and do cure cancer and diabetes. But it takes a lot more of it than what you can ingest orally on a daily basis and I don't care how good your product is.

However, it is half the equation. I've seen cancer reversed by Vitamin C and Hydrogen peroxide IV therapies, COPD reversed using Hydrogen peroxide therapy along with vitamin IV's.

If you are already ill, taking supplements won't hurt, but taking anything orally is more for prevention than cure. You have to bypass the stomach and go directly into the veins and organs to do the most good.

Chemo and radiation kills healthy cells along with the bad. When they say "survived" cancer they aren't kidding. It's a bloody miracle after chemo or radiation that the patient survived at all.


How ignorant are you?? ROTFL! And when asked by a poster you were in the medical industry, you simply replied "Yes". Too bad you didn't tell him you are an insurance claims billing clerk. lmao

Originally Posted by Live&Learn
Are you in the medical industry?

Actually, yes.


Originally Posted by Bruceinvt
I agree that some may 'work'. But you have to admit that many supplement/nutritional companys way exaggerate what they will/can do. Cure cancer, cure diabetes etc. Those of you with product you trust should go after the scammers - and if not you personally then the companies you are involved with should take a pro -active stance or you are all tarred by the same brush.

Bruce,

The problem is, nutritional supplements can and do cure cancer and diabetes. But it takes a lot more of it than what you can ingest orally on a daily basis and I don't care how good your product is.

However, it is half the equation. I've seen cancer reversed by Vitamin C and Hydrogen peroxide IV therapies, COPD reversed using Hydrogen peroxide therapy along with vitamin IV's.

If you are already ill, taking supplements won't hurt, but taking anything orally is more for prevention than cure. You have to bypass the stomach and go directly into the veins and organs to do the most good.

Chemo and radiation kills healthy cells along with the bad. When they say "survived" cancer they aren't kidding. It's a bloody miracle after chemo or radiation that the patient survived at all.


How ignorant are you?? ROTFL! And when asked by a poster you were in the medical industry, you simply replied "Yes". Too bad you didn't tell him you are an insurance claims billing clerk. lmao

Originally Posted by Live&Learn
Are you in the medical industry?

Actually, yes.

Lil Ol' Radical Me
07-03-2010, 06:13 PM
I don't get it either. Thought this was a thread about George's porn sites and the fact that scam.com is owned by a spammer and porn broker.

What happened that it turned into another thread about sojustask?

It's not our fault that he screwed up with google adwords and has lost that revenue. It was 100% avoidable. And for that we have to have a supposed consumer protection site full of porn links?

It doesnt matter what sojustak or anyone else thinks about consumer protection sites - it is what scam.com holds itself out to be. The one who should be answering the question is its owner.

Sojustask
07-03-2010, 06:13 PM
All this boils down to trust, integrity and honesty. All that evidence you mentioned tells folks exactly who has been honest and can be trusted. Need I say more???

Soapboxmom

If you've never had a friend you gave your word to, and kept, then you don't really understand the stakes. So no, what you posted is irrelevant. It still does not answer my question.

Where is the Karma that I've reaped? Am I really worse off today than I was 5 years ago? Not because of anything that has transpired on these boards or over at scam. So, where is all this Karma?

I'm interested in knowing what it is that I've supposedly reaped that so dire. Just call me curious.

A Life Aloft
07-03-2010, 06:14 PM
Would you like a hundred other examples? There are dozens and dozens of posts, pms and emails posted on the three Quataloos threads exposing you for what you are. There are dozens more in several threads right on this site. Short term memory loss, Cupcake? You read them all, because you used another member to send messages to a former Mod, whining. Yet you refused to come to that forum. You even lied about not being able to register there and being banned. Wserra, posted the truth....you had lied yet again and totally made that little fairy tale up. You are a coward. But then, most bullies are.

You have no morals, no integrity, no ethics, no courage, no character, no conscience and no values. You can never be trusted. You lie like a fricking rug daily. You wouldn't know the truth if it bit you in your fat ass. Not to mention, that you were and are total worthless **** as a Mod on Scam. You have the credibility of dog ****.

Sojustask
07-03-2010, 06:15 PM
Well aren't you special aloft, you can save old conversations.

However, you still seem to have problems answering a question that was in response to your very own comments.

Sojustask
07-03-2010, 06:17 PM
You have no morals, no integrity, no ethics, no courage, no character, no conscience and no values. You can never be trusted. You lie like a fricking rug daily. You wouldn't know the truth if it bit you in your fat ass. Not to mention, that you were and are total worthless **** as a Mod on Scam.

Not at all sweetie, you haven't answered my question and what I asked has absolutely nothing to do with what you posted.

Your opinions are noted, however, they do not answer the question.

A Life Aloft
07-03-2010, 06:19 PM
I answered it, Bitch and so have others, for a long time. Again, do you have short term memory loss, lack of reading and comprehension skills or both? ROTFL! Denial and deflection is not going to fly for you any longer, Bitch! Your Karmic fullfillment is to receive exactly what you have dished out to others for a very long time and continue to sling. Perhaps you can get a small neighbor child to explain the concept to you, Sweetie!

Sojustask
07-03-2010, 06:23 PM
It doesnt matter what sojustak or anyone else thinks about consumer protection sites - it is what scam.com holds itself out to be. The one who should be answering the question is its owner.

I agree with you 100%. I asked that question on scam.com when I called Lenny out. Lenny didn't delete that thread, George did. But he never answered the question did he?

Eventually people are going to ask that question again. And he's going to have a tough time passing it off on me again.

Lil Ol' Radical Me
07-03-2010, 06:30 PM
I agree with you 100%. I asked that question on scam.com when I called Lenny out. Lenny didn't delete that thread, George did. But he never answered the question did he?

Eventually people are going to ask that question again. And he's going to have a tough time passing it off on me again.

And the rest of us, which is another reason why we are here and not there. I think the answer is fairly obvious. The "most popular" anti scam site earnt money from google adwords, which were clicked on - a lot. Scam.com used to be a good site to check out potential scams, then it got overrun by a lot of overinflated egos and committed click fraud. The owner then reverted back to filling it up with links from his porn sites to earn some money, to finance the site. So another site started up to take its place without all those complications. End of story. Time to move on.

Sojustask
07-03-2010, 06:34 PM
I answered it, Bitch and so have others, for a long time. Again, do you have short term memory loss, lack of reading and comprehension skills or both? ROTFL! Denial and deflection is not going to fly for you any longer, Bitch! Your Karmic fullfillment is to receive exactly what you have dished out to others for a very long time and continue to sling. Perhaps you can get a small neighbor child to explain the concept to you, Sweetie!

Look again Aloft, you answered nothing, until now.

Well, if my Karma is to receive what I dished out to others for a very long time, then dare I say that with the exception of a few such as yourself, that Karma has been brief and already turned around. I've said my apologies, I've done what I can to make things right. The rest that I can't control lies in the hands of the individuals who choose to forgive or not forgive. It's no longer in my hands. I haven't asked people to trust me, I haven't asked them for anything but forgiveness which some have freely given. Yep, the rest I'll have to rebuild, it's an uphill climb, to be sure, but I'm not adverse to trying. That's what life is, you make mistakes, you fall on your ass, you get up, ask for forgiveness and move forward.



You keep bringing up the past. Your own Karma, for insisting on holding onto a grudge for no specific reason other than for some perverse reason, it brings you joy and satisfaction, is yet to come full circle. All this venom and poison you are spewing is not exactly making you a pillar of the community and no matter what you think, it's evil and it can't be good for your heart or soul.

A Life Aloft
07-03-2010, 06:34 PM
You pathetic piece of lying trash. You sat by and let Lenny run amok. The Mods who had the integrity, honor and fortitude to take action, did the right thing, while you sat on your lard ass and did nothing! TOM banned Len and then quit the site. YOU banned SBM and bad mouthed her non-stop, just as you bad mouthed the members and Tom. You made several posts supporting Len and telling people to shut up about him. Would you like me to post them here? You finally got off your fat lazy ass long after the fact when a rebellion was on your hands and members had already fled Scam and the truth about you and Len was being posted elsewhere. Two other great Mods then left the site. You lied about why they left as well. That's all you have ever done...been totally inept as a Mod, lie and threaten and bash the members of Scam. It's all you are capable of doing.

A Life Aloft
07-03-2010, 06:38 PM
The past, my ass! You lied yesterday on here and today and continue to do so. Your past is your present. You are what you are and that will never change! Forgiveness is for those who tell the truth, who admit and own up to what they have done and who are truly sorry and repentant and who make amends. None of that applies to you, Cupcake. You will never be forgiven and your words and deeds will never be forgotten! You are a blight on everything you touch. Your lack of character and lack of integrity will follow you the rest of your days.

Sojustask
07-03-2010, 07:06 PM
The past, my ass! You lied yesterday on here and today and continue to do so. Your past is your present. You are what you are and that will never change! Forgiveness is for those who tell the truth, who admit and own up to what they have done and who are truly sorry and repentant and who make amends. None of that applies to you, Cupcake. You will never be forgiven and your words and deeds will never be forgotten! You are a blight on everything you touch. Your lack of character and lack of integrity will follow you the rest of your days.

Your lack of insight and depth of perception is amazing, Pumpkin. You don't by any chance have a cement deer in your front yard do you?

ROFL. You are cute when you're being all righteous.

Subway_Eat Fresh!!!
07-08-2010, 09:34 PM
george on Facebook


Welcome to Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/#!/george.dranichak?ref=search)

i see hes interested in spiderman

ohh ohh... and heres the other mod "jerky leboeuf"

[personal information removed as that is another username for Zachary / George at the same IP]

Gazza
07-08-2010, 10:22 PM
Well, here's a switch!

George advertising scam.com on one his favorite porn forums - instead of advertising porn links on scam.com!

http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg436/emperormaximus/geoG.jpg?t=1277776522

Nice father figure - his kids not even in first grade and they're watching porn films together!

Gee! That looks just like George Lamonte!
And the post was made in May 2005.

Nice find!


.

Unsaved Trash
07-08-2010, 10:33 PM
Gee! That looks just like George Lamonte!
And the post was made in May 2005.

Nice find!


.

You want a "nice find?" Just type geoguerilla into any search engine and see what all comes up. Hope you don't mind going to a ton of X-rated sites (I sure don't).

Gazza
07-09-2010, 05:04 AM
You want a "nice find?" Just type geoguerilla into any search engine and see what all comes up. Hope you don't mind going to a ton of X-rated sites (I sure don't).

Yep, nice find!

Well, at least I know why George isn't bothered too much about fixing the scam.com site. :RpS_wink:

Soapboxmom
07-09-2010, 09:54 AM
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The porn and the posts have returned. What a dump!!!

Soapboxmom

Doc Bunkum
07-09-2010, 09:57 AM
The porn and the posts have returned. What a dump!!!

Soapboxmom

Yeah, I noticed.

This time we've got photos instead of just links! :RpS_thumbup:

Classy, George.

Real classy!

Mike!
07-09-2010, 10:01 AM
Well, the posts have returned from a few days out on the town it appears. Seems to have picked up a few loose women while it was out as well. Now, the posts are laced with lace. (Or lice maybe) Rather than just some tacky link to click, it has "live" video of "local" fun lovers showing up. (note the fine print:*For illustrative purposes only. Not actual member data. )
SCAM.COM has turned into a soft porn site before our very eyes folks. Girls spanking themselves, squeezing whatever's handy, and of course, blowing kisses your way too. :RpS_blushing:
Is this what anyone would call an improvement? You CAN now see all the posts, but so much more as well... :RpS_scared:
Two steps forward, fall backwards down the stairs. Gotta love it.:RpS_thumbdn:

:judge:
:RpS_cursing:

Seriously?
07-09-2010, 10:10 AM
Tart-o-vision... Good one, Mike!

Unsaved Trash pointed me in the direction of Adblock Plus. Seems to take care of the unwanted trash (as opposed to unsaved).

Soapboxmom
07-09-2010, 10:12 AM
George will do anything for a buck. So much for his Twitter talk of "Stopping scammers in their tracks." Most of the great Scambusters are long gone!

Soapboxmom

littleroundman
07-09-2010, 10:29 AM
Tart-o-vision... Good one, Mike!

Unsaved Trash pointed me in the direction of Adblock Plus. Seems to take care of the unwanted trash (as opposed to unsaved).

For anyone running Firefox, as well as running AdBlock Plus, it's well worthwhile downloading the NoScript addon from Mozilla Corporation (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/722/) and block everything but the posts themselves.

iamwil
07-09-2010, 12:57 PM
Now for quite a while when posting over there I complained about the lunacy, hypocrisy and irony of the ads that were all related to mlm, work at home, etc. that were on the google adsearch program...

and funny enough those folks that lambasted me for being so incensitive to the needs of the owner and the greater good of the site....

seems many of those mods and members had names familiar to all here?

I was told repeatedly that it had nothing to do with the owner, and told to shut up and let it lie.

Soapboxmom
07-09-2010, 01:26 PM
The Ashley Madison Dating stuff we did think was a virus and not the owner until one of the Mods called Gelsoft and found out George was puttin that that crap up himself. NakedNews a poster found him out and it was easily confirmed when NNHeadlines and Zachary were on at the same time with the same IP. I can't believe the Mods were not even told anything. I am so sorry about that whole fiasco. Lenny coming on as an admin was the last straw. I felt my responsibility was to protect the members and I could not do that as the owner would not respond to anyone.

Rest assured here that the members will be treated with respect and there will be none of that porn nonsense on here. Feel free to contact the admins and give us your thoughts at any time!

Soapboxmom

WishfulThinking
07-09-2010, 01:33 PM
Now for quite a while when posting over there I complained about the lunacy, hypocrisy and irony of the ads that were all related to mlm, work at home, etc. that were on the google adsearch program...

and funny enough those folks that lambasted me for being so incensitive to the needs of the owner and the greater good of the site....

seems many of those mods and members had names familiar to all here?

I was told repeatedly that it had nothing to do with the owner, and told to shut up and let it lie.

Irrespective of what people thought at the time, we now know the truth behind the ads. I dont see how you can compare the presence of keyword triggered google ads with the owner's choice of adding of porn to the site. It is offensive to many, especially as it tracks the region of the poster's IP address. Hope this site stays porn free.

A Life Aloft
07-09-2010, 07:51 PM
I have to tell you, that seeing women rubbing and sqeezing their girls and other parts and sticking their tongues out and wearing little clothing (although I am very much a fan of the not too much clothing and lingerie, in it's proper time and place lol) it has no place whatsoever on a site that claims to be a forum to investigate scams and frauds and provide people with real answers, research and help. You expect that kind of thing elsewhere, like on a porn or adult site. It severely cheapens and dimishes the entire forum in my opinion, even further than many of the posters and past behavior of the owner and a Mod already have. I didn't think it was possible, but there it is. Great credibility. How can anyone take anything seriously over there? What type of quality poster/member is that crap supposed to attract and keep exactly?

If we have ads one day, because of financial reasons, that would not bother me in the least. I am sure they will be at least tasteful and unobtrusive as possible. I am confident in that much.

The names alone of these floozy women are bad enough, let alone the video ads and what they are doing in those ads. HotandMoist, Givemeatry, Luvstolick, Iwantuxxcore, Swingingbimbo, Luvmeverylong, Wetlindsey, etc?? How tacky can that place get??? I guess we know now. lol

Can you imagine accessing that site with your wife and/or children or grandchildren nearby? Yikes!

Emet
07-09-2010, 08:10 PM
https://www.google.com/adsense/support/bin/answer.py?answer=48182&hl=en&sourceid=aso&subid=ww-en-et-storefrontEN_v2_ProgramPoliciesLink&medium=link


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Doc Bunkum
07-09-2010, 08:14 PM
Geez, now the ads are appearing at the top of the page - not just in the post.

http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg436/emperormaximus/scamhead.gif?t=1278724343

Soapboxmom
07-09-2010, 08:23 PM
https://www.google.com/adsense/support/bin/answer.py?answer=48182&hl=en&sourceid=aso&subid=ww-en-et-storefrontEN_v2_ProgramPoliciesLink&medium=link



https://www.google.com/adsense/support/bin/answer.py?answer=18386
You beat me to it! LOL!!!!! I have made my report!

Soapboxmom

Seriously?
07-09-2010, 08:26 PM
Can you imagine accessing that site with your wife and/or children or grandchildren nearby? Yikes!

Adblock or not, I'm not going over there until that stuff is gone.

Gazza
07-09-2010, 08:38 PM
Adblock or not, I'm not going over there until that stuff is gone.

Good grief! That stuff is no worse than having your inbox stuffed to the rims with Viagra spam or late night TV advertising dating agencies and hookers, surely!

You gunna close your email accounts and sell your TV too?

The google syndication ads on scam.com have been promoting MLM scams for years Did that ever bother you to the point of a moratorium on the site?

It's a free membership site which uses advertising to make money. You have the option to view the ads or not.

What will happen when you need to google-up this site and someone starts a thread involving sex and the ads start coming through with dating sites?

.

A Life Aloft
07-09-2010, 08:52 PM
Personally, I don't have to see or read any spam that I ever get on my private email account with Verizon or my business account with them. I use Outlook Express and a program called Spambully, which takes care of all of that for me. The best part, is that the program actually punishes spammers by sending them spam (dummy pages) back to them, which cost them and it reports them to their internet providers. I like that part the best. It's programmable for spam and learns as it goes as well. You can block anything or anyone that you don't wish to have access to your main account.

As for television commercials, I generally get up take a leak, fix a snack, let the dogs in or out, read, or change the channel or something.

And yes the other ads often bothered me, but not to the extent that the tacky porn videos do. I don't know of any other forums or blogs that are not purely adult in nature, that have ads like that either. At least, I have never seen any. Have you? It certainly is not the norm.

You cannot profess as George has, to want to be helping and saving people from scams, when you yourself are scamming everyone who is a guest or a member on Scam and using them to promote your own porn sites and get money from them. lol

Seriously?
07-09-2010, 08:57 PM
Good grief! That stuff is no worse than having your inbox stuffed to the rims with Viagra spam or late night TV advertising dating agencies and hookers, surely!

You gunna close your email accounts and sell your TV too?
No. Not the same.


The google syndication ads on scam.com have been promoting MLM scams for years Did that ever bother you to the point of a moratorium on the site?
MLM ads aren't porn.


It's a free membership site which uses advertising to make money. You have the option to view the ads or not.
Yup. And I have a choice as to whether I go there or not. Porn crosses the line.


What will happen when you need to google-up this site and someone starts a thread involving sex and the ads start coming through with dating sites?
There's a fine line between "dating" sites and "DATING" sites. I choose not to be involved with "DATING" sites. Besides, did you not read the Ad-sense rules posted earlier by Emet? Google isn't promoting porn. GEORGE IS PROMOTING PORN. As long as he keeps it off scam, I'm ok with that. I may not like it, but as long as it's not in my face, and out of sight of my kids, I can deal with it.

AFA someone starting a thread involving sex (ie porn) on this site, it will be deleted. That crosses boundaries the admins on this site will not permit.

Unsaved Trash
07-09-2010, 08:58 PM
Geez, now the ads are appearing at the top of the page - not just in the post.



I guess he lost his Google ads again. The man is truly an idiot.

Gazza
07-09-2010, 09:00 PM
Personally, I don't have to see or read any spam that I ever get on my private email account with Verizon or my business account with them. I use Outlook Express and a program called Spambully, which takes care of all of that for me. The best part, is that the program actually punishes spammers by sending them spam back and it reports them to their internet providers. I like that part the best. It's programable for spam and learns as it goes as well. You can block anything or anyone that you don't wish to have access to your main account.

As for television commercials, I generally get up take a leak, fix a snack, let the dogs in or out, read, or change the channel or something.

And yes the other ads often bothered me, but not to the extent that the tacky porn videos do. I don't know of any other forums or blogs that are not purely adult in nature, that have ads like that either. At least, I have never seen any. Have you? It certainly is not the norm.

You cannot profess as George has, to want to be helping and saving people from scams, when you yourself are scamming everyone who is a guest or a member on Scam and using them to promote your own porn sites and get money from them. lol

So, in essence, you exercise your right to either filter out or ignore the content you disapprove of. It's the same on the internet, on any site.

You block it out and get on with it.

If you're honest with yourself, it's not the ads on scam.com, it's the site itself that you don't like. That's fine but all you need to do is say so and no go all puritanical about porn sites etc etc.


.
//edit. George doesn't give two hoots about scams. The site is a part of his overall business. Why is that so difficult for people to understand?

A Life Aloft
07-09-2010, 09:00 PM
I found the Ashley dating links in every single post for several weeks, really offfensive. That site was for married men looking for other women. Sheeesh. I found that about as low as you can go. Well, til his latest ads. lol

A Life Aloft
07-09-2010, 09:07 PM
So, in essence, you exercise your right to either filter out or ignore the content you disapprove of. It's the same on the internet, on any site.

You block it out and get on with it.

If you're honest with yourself, it's not the ads on scam.com, it's the site itself that you don't like. That's fine but all you need to do is say so and no go all puritanical about porn sites etc etc.


.I am being honest. I no longer like the site for several reasons. I am far from being a prude, believe me. lmao I think the presence of tacky porn ads is terrible on many levels and for many reasons. Whether you believe that or not, that's your problem, not mine.

Again, what forum or blog on the net that is not an adult site, has porn videos for ads?

I also don't get pornographic ads or solicitations in my email adresses. lol I get ads to sell me crap or rip me off- I won the lotto, etc., mostly. I do take a look at Spambully from time to time just look at the titles of what it is catching.

I don't think that porn should be pushed or shoved on anyone just because you go to what is supposed to be a "normal" site on the internet either.

I don't know where you have been, but most of us have been well aware of the fact that George doesn't give a rats about the forum, his members or scams and we've known that for years. lmao It's the fact that he lies about it and contradicts himself with his behavior and is a complete liar and hypocrite. It's also, that this behavior has really exacerbated itself in recent months.

Gazza
07-09-2010, 09:10 PM
No. Not the same.


MLM ads aren't porn.


Yup. And I have a choice as to whether I go there or not. Porn crosses the line.


There's a fine line between "dating" sites and "DATING" sites. I choose not to be involved with "DATING" sites. Besides, did you not read the Ad-sense rules posted earlier by Emet? Google isn't promoting porn. GEORGE IS PROMOTING PORN. As long as he keeps it off scam, I'm ok with that. I may not like it, but as long as it's not in my face, and out of sight of my kids, I can deal with it.

AFA someone starting a thread involving sex (ie porn) on this site, it will be deleted. That crosses boundaries the admins on this site will not permit.

You may or may not be aware of this but if you were already using adsense syndication, you're ads would already be advertising your 'so called' porn sites simply by typing the word sex into a post. This is something which you have zero control over unless you block the word sex, and all other words mildly related, on the site.

Why do you think words such as power, underage and the likes are blocked on scam.com? It's so ads relating to those (low paying) keywords do not appear on the site.

Get with the program, seriously.

A Life Aloft
07-09-2010, 09:14 PM
Underage? lmao there were ads for teen sex sites on Scam before the site went down for the second time. Guess that word blocking thing didn't work out so well. lol

Seriously?
07-09-2010, 09:18 PM
You may or may not be aware of this but if you were already using adsense syndication, you're ads would already be advertising your 'so called' porn sites simply by typing the word sex into a post. This is something which you have zero control over unless you block the word sex, and all other words mildly related, on the site.

Why do you think words such as power, underage and the likes are blocked on scam.com? It's so ads relating to those (low paying) keywords do not appear on the site.

Get with the program, seriously.
I am aware, in general, of how adsense works. However, I will have to defer to the admin on what types of ads would appear should we use words like 'sex' and 'porn' in a post. Somehow, I hardly think the type of ads that are currently being seen would appear. Google is not that stupid.

Gazza
07-09-2010, 09:21 PM
I found the Ashley dating links in every single post for several weeks, really offfensive. That site was for married men looking for other women. Sheeesh. I found that about as low as you can go. Well, til his latest ads. lol

Actually the Ashley site is for married men AND women looking for an affair. That you find it about as low as you can go isn't going to stop it happening.

Soapboxmom
07-09-2010, 09:21 PM
So, your theory is that words like water, power, funding, and energy etc. are blocked becasue they generate lower dollar ads? You can't put up a dang posts that reads well or even has the name of popular MLM scams because of it. George doesn't give a damn about his members or mods and the site has gone way too far downhill for any intelligent, insightful people who want to seriously scambust to bother posting there. Ignite / Stream Energy, Evolv Water and on and on don't have proper titles because of the words that neanderthal blocked out. So, that stuff won't Google up on the top pages. Heck, almost none of the good threads Google up because he has pulled a bunch more of mine and the rest haven't been crawled at the new IP address so folks hunting for things on Google will think the site is gone. Scam is just a bad joke now!

Soapboxmom

Gazza
07-09-2010, 09:23 PM
I am aware, in general, of how adsense works. However, I will have to defer to the admin on what types of ads would appear should we use words like 'sex' and 'porn' in a post. Somehow, I hardly think the type of ads that are currently being seen would appear. Google is not that stupid.

Oh, yes they would appear and oh yes, google are NOT stupid. They know what sells and they sell it to anyone and everyone. Like it or not.

A Life Aloft
07-09-2010, 09:26 PM
Let alone the deletion of so many (dozens) of worthwhile threads that were actually exposing true scams. That to me, along with the way the site was run (well - not run) and the treatment of the Mods, was the begining of the end. I didn't post as often in the MLM threads when the original YTB thread was deleted for example. I figured, what was the point?

Soapboxmom
07-09-2010, 09:29 PM
Well, I can tell you for certain that the Ashley Madison Dating, Naked News Headlines and probably the most recent soft porn garbage are the work of none other than George Dranichak. Google wasn't responsible for that crap and it generated a lot of complaints which I had to deal with. No thanks!!! And, I work at my kitchen table while my children do their school work, so I have no interest in having that porn crap up anywhere I read and / or post.

Soapboxmom

A Life Aloft
07-09-2010, 09:30 PM
Actually the Ashley site is for married men AND women looking for an affair. That you find it about as low as you can go isn't going to stop it happening.Again, that is not my point. I found those ads to be extremely offensive and immoral. And to have it appear willy nilly in all of my posts was very troublesome to say the least. It is not stopping or controlling other's behaviors in their personal lives. I never said that it was. No one, but that person can do that. You seem to be missing the point, entirely. I did not want to a part of that behavior however, condone it or help to promote it. THAT is the point. It's not difficult to understand.

A Life Aloft
07-09-2010, 09:35 PM
Well, I can tell you for certain that the Ashley Madison Dating, Naked News Headlines and probably the most recent soft porn garbage are the work of none other than George Dranichak. Google wasn't responsible for that crap and it generated a lot of complaints which I had to deal with. No thanks!!! And, I work at my kitchen table while my children do their school work, so I have no interest in having that porn crap up anywhere I read and / or post.

SoapboxmomIt's completely disrespectful to the members of Scam. But then greed and selfishness is nothing new with George. Helluva way to spend one's life isn't it? Not exactly something you can brag about on career day at your kid's school is it? And what does your Daddy do? lol

Gazza
07-09-2010, 09:35 PM
So, your theory is that words like water, power, funding, and energy etc. are blocked becasue they generate lower dollar ads? You can't put up a dang posts that reads well or even has the name of popular MLM scams because of it. George doesn't give a damn about his members or mods and the site has gone way too far downhill for any intelligent, insightful people who want to seriously scambust to bother posting there. Ignite / Stream Energy, Evolv Water and on and on don't have proper titles because of the words that neanderthal blocked out. So, that stuff won't Google up on the top pages. Heck, almost none of the good threads Google up because he has pulled a bunch more of mine and the rest haven't been crawled at the new IP address so folks hunting for things on Google will think the site is gone. Scam is just a bad joke now!

Soapboxmom

Guess again. The IP address has already resolved to scam.com and it did so after about 24 hours. The proliferation on the SE's is almost complete. (google mlm scams)

Hint: Using Adsense ranks you higher on google searches. But, of course you all know that.

In your opinion scam is a joke. Many of the loyal posters are returning and some members are helping others to rid themselves of the ads if they so desire. That's what an internet community is all about!

It's business as usual.

A Life Aloft
07-09-2010, 09:39 PM
It's not just her opinion. It's many peoples. Why do you think this forum was started? To escape Scam and all the baggage and the trash. I choose what "internet community" to support and be a part of. I sure as hell don't choose that place.

Seriously?
07-09-2010, 09:39 PM
Oh, yes they would appear and oh yes, google are NOT stupid. They know what sells and they sell it to anyone and everyone. Like it or not.


Well, I can tell you for certain that the Ashley Madison Dating, Naked News Headlines and probably the most recent soft porn garbage are the work of none other than George Dranichak. Google wasn't responsible for that crap and it generated a lot of complaints which I had to deal with. No thanks!!! And, I work at my kitchen table while my children do their school work, so I have no interest in having that porn crap up anywhere I read and / or post.

Soapboxmom


Again, that is not my point. I found those ads to be extremely offensive and immoral. And to have it appear willy nilly in all of my posts was very troublesome to say the least. It is not stopping or controlling other's behaviors in their personal lives. I never said that it was. No one, but that person can do that. You seem to be missing the point, entirely. I did not want to a part of that behavior however, condone it or help to promote it. THAT is the point. It's not difficult to understand.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

Lightbulb
07-09-2010, 10:02 PM
The IP address has already resolved to scam.com and it did so after about 24 hours.
I checked just now, it is not scam.com but instead is "208.86.2.178".

Back before the whole 'Lemonhead' issue, when I saved scam.com to my favorites file, it had a little icon next to the name, now it is a generic icon of a blank piece of paper. Most of my favorite sites have a cute icon but a few have the same little icon of a blank page. I suppose the icon change has to do with the server change?

klondikemike
07-10-2010, 02:11 AM
Can you imagine accessing that site with your wife and/or children or grandchildren nearby? Yikes!

Can you imagine accessing this site with your wife and/or children nearby seeing all of this venom?... YIKES!



You pathetic piece of lying trash.


I answered it, Bitch and so have others, for a long time.


. You are a nasty, evil person and that will never change. If anyone buys into the b.s. that you are anything else, then they don't really know what you are, your history, what you have done and continue to do.

A leopard does not change it's spots dear, and neither will you. You are the same condescending, lying asshole that you always were. You are nothing but the last piece of unwanted trash leftover from Scam and that is all you will ever be. You are right about one thing, this is not your playground and you have no power here. Your bullying and continued lies won't fly here, sweet cheeks.



A) You are so accustomed to bullying and being a condescending asshole, because it is second nature to you. It's who you are. You have never been able to see your own **** behavior. Nothings changes with you.
B) You have lied your ass off.
C) You have contributed nothing here, except to be a first class bitch.
D) "You are not the Mod card?" WTF are you talking about? ROTFL! I have no "wounds" to lick. The sight of you just makes me extremely nauseated. By the way, you wil never be on "equal footing" with anyone here.
E) There is nothing amusing about your presence here, Cupcake. You will never be forgiven. Never. Get used to it.


You can't argue the facts and the truth, that's the point. Head back to your cesspool, where you belong. You still have a handful of members left there willing to kiss your humongous ass.


Same here, Your Lowliness. You deserve whatever you get, as you are now reaping exactly what you have sown for so very long, Dumpling. Karma is a real bitch, much like yourself, Doublewide Cakes.

A Life Aloft
07-10-2010, 02:26 AM
You have an issue with me, then put me on ignore. Do you plan on contributing anything of meaning and value here? Just curious.

Gazza
07-10-2010, 05:18 AM
I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

Yes. Ain't that the way it ought to be?

btw, for the record, I have enabled AdBlock on the scam site so I have no idea what is being advertised.

Ain't that the way it ought to be?

.

Gazza
07-10-2010, 05:23 AM
It's not just her opinion. It's many peoples. Why do you think this forum was started? To escape Scam and all the baggage and the trash. I choose what "internet community" to support and be a part of. I sure as hell don't choose that place.

Well then why not just carry on doing whatever you're doing rather than raking over it all again on this site?

I don't get it. :RpS_confused:

Gazza
07-10-2010, 05:46 AM
Well, I can tell you for certain that the Ashley Madison Dating, Naked News Headlines and probably the most recent soft porn garbage are the work of none other than George Dranichak. Google wasn't responsible for that crap and it generated a lot of complaints which I had to deal with. No thanks!!! And, I work at my kitchen table while my children do their school work, so I have no interest in having that porn crap up anywhere I read and / or post.

Soapboxmom

Neither the Ashley Madison dating site or the Naked news is porn or even close to soft porn.

I don't know why you can't be honest about the reasons why you dislike the site so much.

I have only been reading some of the posts on this site for a few days and I can plainly see that you (and quite a few others) have issues born out of personality clashes with some of the mods and ex-mods on scam.

Fine if you want to split because you feel you are being dealt with unfairly ( Hell, I joined a splinter site in 2004 when shills and proponents of the Juiceboosted scam made it impossible to post proof that it was scam) but at least be up-front with your reasons and don't try to cloud the issue with porn links or whatever.

People just won't buy it.


.

Soapboxmom
07-10-2010, 09:11 AM
George's Mods totally stab him in the back. The hot topic today is how to block the porn ads. That is how George makes money and supposedly those ads fund that website. Well, the Supermod and her grunt Mods are discussing how to go about blocking the ads. Unbelievable!

Gazza wrote:

By the way....

If you're using firefox, you can install AdBlock. It means you'll never see an advertisment anywhere on the internet ever again.

No ads at the top of the page. No ads in posts. No ads on any page you view, anywhere.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865/

Just one click to install.

The SuperMod responds:

Cool! It works!!


Thanks for the info.


Lady Mod
katiescorner second that with:

Firefox is the most fun browser ever made! It can tell you all kinds of cool things or hide all kinds of awful things.. THE nemesis of website owners.

The hallmark of a well run website no doubt. The Mods are the nemeses of the owner. Keep sabotaging the owners revenue generating activities! Absolutely hilarious!

Soapboxmom

Soapboxmom
07-10-2010, 09:22 AM
Neither the Ashley Madison dating site or the Naked news is porn or even close to soft porn.

I don't know why you can't be honest about the reasons why you dislike the site so much.

I have only been reading some of the posts on this site for a few days and I can plainly see that you (and quite a few others) have issues born out of personality clashes with some of the mods and ex-mods on scam.

Fine if you want to split because you feel you are being dealt with unfairly ( Hell, I joined a splinter site in 2004 when shills and proponents of the Juiceboosted scam made it impossible to post proof that it was scam) but at least be up-front with your reasons and don't try to cloud the issue with porn links or whatever.

People just won't buy it.


.
Gazza you are over there telling folks how to block the ads, so obviously lots of other people dislike the ads as well and you are more than happy to help them make George's revenue producing activities poof --- disappear.

So, are people going to buy that you are supprtive of the site when you are sabotaging the owners revenue generating activities?

Soapboxmom

Gazza
07-10-2010, 10:08 AM
Gazza you are over there telling folks how to block the ads, so obviously lots of other people dislike the ads as well and you are more than happy to help them make George's revenue producing activities poof --- disappear.

So, are people going to buy that you are supprtive of the site when you are sabotaging the owners revenue generating activities?

Soapboxmom

Actually, it was Kazza who posted the links to AdBlocker but let's not let the truth get in the way of a good lie, huh?

And besides, If you truly feel the way you say you do about ads with links to such sites, I would have thought you would be in favour of any information on how to stop the ads from appearing by congratulating the people who brought it up.

I think your just bitching for the sake of it.

.

GlimDropper
07-10-2010, 10:30 AM
Actually, it was Kazza who posted the links to AdBlocker but let's not the truth get in the way of a good lie, huh?

Gazza, kazza, she was off by one letter.


And besides, If you truly feel the way you say you do about ads with links to such sites, I would have thought you would be in favour of any information on how to stop the ads from appearing by congratulating the people who brought it up.

I'm rather sure she is, but your earlier post seemed to imply that the porn links were a less than honest complaint for us to make about the place. SBM was pointing out that others, including some of the staff over there were willing to deprive the owner of ad review to avoid seeing them. Which would seem to prove the complaint is legitimate.


I think your just bitching for the sake of it.

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George never (or almost never) responds to feedback, so more or less any bitching about the place is just for bitching sake. Which actually is one of the biggest things I bitched about. Ironic. :RpS_wink:

Soapboxmom
07-10-2010, 11:01 AM
Pardon me Gazza and kazza. My bad. That doesn't change the fact though that posters and the Mods are actively setting themselves up so they don't have to view the ads. That does sabotage the owner they are publically representing. Telling folks how to avoid seeing and thus clicking on those ads kills the only form of revenue generation for the owner. He should "hire," and I use this term loosely as one will get paid nothing, get no respect and almost never get a response from the goof, folks that support him and his site completely in the manner he chooses to run that porn heap / dump.

Domaintools says:

Website Title: scams - report the scam here
Title Relevancy100%
Meta Description:Message board for posting various scams. Powered by VBulletin.
Relevancy:55% relevant....
DMOZ Title:Report Scams Here
DMOZ Description:The scam message board allows consumers to post their bad experiences and inform the public.
DMOZ Category:/ Society / Issues / Business / Allegedly Unethical Firms /
Yahoo Description:Message board provides discussions about contest, charity, Internet, insurance, investment, lottery, MLM, mail order, and other kinds of scams and fraud.
Yahoo Category:/ Society and Culture / Crime / Types of Crime / Fraud /

We should be sure to correct them and these nice folks here (http://www.aboutus.org/Scam.com) about what the site is really about now.

George is an absolute laughing stock on the net with his Mods, especially one in particular, always making disparaging remarks about him across the net and countermanding him every step of the way. And, no, I do not wish to be on sites with porn or soft porn or those "DATING" ads, so I am not!

Soapboxmom

A Life Aloft
07-10-2010, 11:27 AM
People just won't buy it.
.What people? You mean you. You Gazza. I don't see anyone else agreeing with you. You don't speak for every member and poster on this site, Gazza. If you don't believe or understand someone or anyone on here again, that's your problem. And why do you keep comming here and defending Scam? That's all you have done for two days now. Seems like you enjoy continuinly stirring the pot. You keep making weak excuses for everything that goes on over at Scam and defending the owner and putting down whatever people here are trying to tell you.

You are preaching to the crowd....a crowd made up of people who have already made up their minds. You keep discounting everyone and every point they try to make to you. Why is that? Why can't you just accept the fact, that this is how people feel and stop of accusing them of lying and being dishonest when they are not. This is getting really old and it's rather insulting.

Instead of telling me to carry on, why don't you do the same? People here are entitled to feel the way they do and have their opinions. The fact that you don't like them, and don't agree with them, is simply too bad. And speaking of "bitching", that's all you have contributed since you got here. lol And yes you did tell people on here just to block out the ads. Kazza put up the link on Scam but you have reiterate that fact several times, now. We heard it the first time. Some people choose not to be bothered and don't want to go to Scam. Period. That is their right. Get it?

You don't seem to get or understand all the reasons that many posters no longer participate at Scam. That's fine and that's your issue. Let it go.

You need to at some point, accept what people are saying and feeling here as they are entitlted to those opinions and feelings. You don't seem to think so though, apparently. You are not going to sway anyone or change anyone's mind, so it's just pointless to continue to argue with everyone about Scam and telling them they are wrong on each and every point that they try to present to you. It's not neccessary to keep belittling their comments, views and feelings unless you just happen to enjoy doing so. If it bothers you so much that people have moved away from that site and are trying to move on, oh well. It's not the fricking end of the world, already. Let people alone and let them them choose what they think is best for them to do. We get that you love scam, we get that you think everyones opinions, reasons and feelings are rubbish. You don't have to keep saying it, ad nauseam. We get it. We got it yesterday. Give it a rest. People don't need to constantly be defending themselves and explaining themselves to you. If you don't get it, you don't get it. Let them be. Is that so difficult for you to do? Cripes.

WishfulThinking
07-10-2010, 02:36 PM
Fine if you want to split because you feel you are being dealt with unfairly ( Hell, I joined a splinter site in 2004 when shills and proponents of the Juiceboosted scam made it impossible to post proof that it was scam) but at least be up-front with your reasons and don't try to cloud the issue with porn links or whatever.

I think people's reasons vary, and some are more influenced by the incursion of soft porn ads than others. For some it is just the last straw that broke the camel's back and for others its a major issue. Just depends on the individual.

What I suspect is behind most people's motives for preferring this site over scam.dot.com, to a greater or less degree, is the concern that they can no longer rely on being able to post proof of scams. Too many important threads have disappeared for one reason or the other over the past couple of years - the YTB, the ASD and Buzzirk/ Global Verge threads are only a handful of examples.

The addition of serious conflicts, bannings and now soft porn links have only crystalized the concern to the point where an alternative site for scam busting has been started.

In any event Gazza, it is not an either/or choice for most readers and many posters. As adults they are able to make up their minds whether they want to read one or both site. Lets face it, we are considered old enough to click on George's soft porn links, so I guess we are old enought to decide what to read.

Once the fuss has died down, both sites will continue to gain or lose popularity on their merits as scam busters. I dont remember that scam.dot.com had any monopoly rights. Relax. What will be will be.

Subway_Eat Fresh!!!
07-10-2010, 04:37 PM
Neither the Ashley Madison dating site or the Naked news is porn or even close to soft porn.

I don't know why you can't be honest about the reasons why you dislike the site so much.
I have only been reading some of the posts on this site for a few days and I can plainly see that you (and quite a few others) have issues born out of personality clashes with some of the mods and ex-mods on scam.

Fine if you want to split because you feel you are being dealt with unfairly ( Hell, I joined a splinter site in 2004 when shills and proponents of the Juiceboosted scam made it impossible to post proof that it was scam) but at least be up-front with your reasons and don't try to cloud the issue with porn links or whatever.

People just won't buy it.


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She was Banned by Lady Mod in mid May for three days (I believe it was May 21st-24th) It created a never ending tiff between the two.

I think eventually they will sort the kinks out.... but it is going to take time to heal the wounds.

Soapboxmom
07-10-2010, 07:44 PM
Nothing to sort out friends. We are both admins at our respective sites and never the twain shall meet.

Now, if you want to remain a Founding Member I think you will need to earn that title Subway. RS set out the parameters for that special honor and he will be making those titles permanent. We have a great site building here.

Soapboxmom

Subway_Eat Fresh!!!
07-10-2010, 08:24 PM
Nothing to sort out friends. We are both admins at our respective sites and never the twain shall meet.

Now, if you want to remain a Founding Member I think you will need to earn that title Subway. RS set out the parameters for that special honor and he will be making those titles permanent. We have a great site building here.

Soapboxmom


i plan on changing it once I get a response from GlimDropper on the thread.... It was to prove a point.

I have no desire to be a "founding member"


If I wanted to.....Couldnt I just Type in "Founding Member" Above Kermit the Frog at Computer"??? lol......




(Um, try it. I'm rather sure you can't ;)




Take a look :)

Do I win a cookie?

Subway_Eat Fresh!!!
07-10-2010, 09:05 PM
Nothing to sort out friends. We are both admins at our respective sites and never the twain shall meet.

Now, if you want to remain a Founding Member I think you will need to earn that title Subway. RS set out the parameters for that special honor and he will be making those titles permanent. We have a great site building here.

Soapboxmom

none the less I was able to prove my point that anyone could put "Founding Member" in their Title...... Thanks for changing my title.... I think its absolutely hilarious!!!!!!

http://www.realscam.com/f24/founding-member-sign-up-page-132/#post2345

Gazza
07-11-2010, 03:47 AM
Gazza, kazza, she was off by one letter.



One letter might not be important to you, GlibDropper, but it means a lot to me when the mistake comes with allegations of sabotage to a website.

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Gazza
07-11-2010, 03:49 AM
Pardon me Gazza and kazza. My bad.

Your apology is accepted in the manner it was delivered!


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Gazza
07-11-2010, 04:00 AM
What people? You mean you. You Gazza. I don't see anyone else agreeing with you. You don't speak for every member and poster on this site, Gazza. If you don't believe or understand someone or anyone on here again, that's your problem. And why do you keep comming here and defending Scam? That's all you have done for two days now. Seems like you enjoy continuinly stirring the pot. You keep making weak excuses for everything that goes on over at Scam and defending the owner and putting down whatever people here are trying to tell you.

You are preaching to the crowd....a crowd made up of people who have already made up their minds. You keep discounting everyone and every point they try to make to you. Why is that? Why can't you just accept the fact, that this is how people feel and stop of accusing them of lying and being dishonest when they are not. This is getting really old and it's rather insulting.

Instead of telling me to carry on, why don't you do the same? People here are entitled to feel the way they do and have their opinions. The fact that you don't like them, and don't agree with them, is simply too bad. And speaking of "bitching", that's all you have contributed since you got here. lol And yes you did tell people on here just to block out the ads. Kazza put up the link on Scam but you have reiterate that fact several times, now. We heard it the first time. Some people choose not to be bothered and don't want to go to Scam. Period. That is their right. Get it?

You don't seem to get or understand all the reasons that many posters no longer participate at Scam. That's fine and that's your issue. Let it go.

You need to at some point, accept what people are saying and feeling here as they are entitlted to those opinions and feelings. You don't seem to think so though, apparently. You are not going to sway anyone or change anyone's mind, so it's just pointless to continue to argue with everyone about Scam and telling them they are wrong on each and every point that they try to present to you. It's not neccessary to keep belittling their comments, views and feelings unless you just happen to enjoy doing so. If it bothers you so much that people have moved away from that site and are trying to move on, oh well. It's not the fricking end of the world, already. Let people alone and let them them choose what they think is best for them to do. We get that you love scam, we get that you think everyones opinions, reasons and feelings are rubbish. You don't have to keep saying it, ad nauseam. We get it. We got it yesterday. Give it a rest. People don't need to constantly be defending themselves and explaining themselves to you. If you don't get it, you don't get it. Let them be. Is that so difficult for you to do? Cripes.

Ease up, lady!

If you don't agree with my comments, that's fine but don't go flying off the handle, ranting like a banshee.

Especially in light of the fact that I was not referring to you, in particular.

Sheesh, I thought the idea of this site (and this thread) was to encourage debate...My bad!

"Don't like what you say, so piss off!" Is that how it is, here?


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Gazza
07-11-2010, 04:13 AM
I think people's reasons vary, and some are more influenced by the incursion of soft porn ads than others. For some it is just the last straw that broke the camel's back and for others its a major issue. Just depends on the individual.

What I suspect is behind most people's motives for preferring this site over scam.dot.com, to a greater or less degree, is the concern that they can no longer rely on being able to post proof of scams. Too many important threads have disappeared for one reason or the other over the past couple of years - the YTB, the ASD and Buzzirk/ Global Verge threads are only a handful of examples.

The addition of serious conflicts, bannings and now soft porn links have only crystalized the concern to the point where an alternative site for scam busting has been started.

In any event Gazza, it is not an either/or choice for most readers and many posters. As adults they are able to make up their minds whether they want to read one or both site. Lets face it, we are considered old enough to click on George's soft porn links, so I guess we are old enought to decide what to read.

Once the fuss has died down, both sites will continue to gain or lose popularity on their merits as scam busters. I dont remember that scam.dot.com had any monopoly rights. Relax. What will be will be.

Excellent post! Best one of the whole thread!

Let's see if your theory holds up and the angry members of this site can let go of their animosity towards a site they say they will never revisit and move forward.

Continually posting threads knocking another site is bad form and doing it without expecting a backlash is naive in the extreme.

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Lil Ol' Radical Me
07-11-2010, 05:48 AM
Excellent post! Best one of the whole thread!

Let's see if your theory holds up and the angry members of this site can let go of their animosity towards a site they say they will never revisit and move forward.

Continually posting threads knocking another site is bad form and doing it without expecting a backlash is naive in the extreme.

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The posters who say that they will never visit scam.dot.com again are totally within their right to say so and those who do revisit are also within their right to do so. I agree with Wishful. It's not an either/or situation, but recent events have influenced a lot of us to stay away and certainly to stop logging in.

Since I learnt that the owner is the owner of a lot of porn sites, it has taken away a lot of credibility from the site as far as scam busting is concerned. I associate porn sites with putting nasty cr*p on my computer, serious spam and a complete lack of internet ethics. The porn links have chased me away from even going to the site recently. I find them very offensive and I dont care how fashionable it is to be broadminded about porn. I dont like it and I certainly dont want to be forced to see it.

Apart from that, porn and online security are not famous for their compatibility. It's scarey to find your home town so obviously tracked, especially when scam busting is not always the safest job in town. Dont you find it a little ironic that your locality is tracked by the owner, when the rules that were the cause of multiple bannings were those on the subject of publishing personal information. It was bad enough when we thought that a rather dodgy MLMer might have access to our personal information, but a porn broker?....?

Add to the mix, the deletion of important threads with valuable information - most of which happened long before Len Clements became Administrator, you end up with a need for a more reliable and reputable site to post proof of scams. Many of us hope that realscam.com will provide the answer and become a place where victims or future victims can go for reliable and verified information. There is a great need.

Gazza
07-11-2010, 09:58 AM
The posters who say that they will never visit scam.dot.com again are totally within their right to say so and those who do revisit are also within their right to do so. I agree with Wishful. It's not an either/or situation, but recent events have influenced a lot of us to stay away and certainly to stop logging in.

Since I learnt that the owner is the owner of a lot of porn sites, it has taken away a lot of credibility from the site as far as scam busting is concerned. I associate porn sites with putting nasty cr*p on my computer, serious spam and a complete lack of internet ethics. The porn links have chased me away from even going to the site recently. I find them very offensive and I dont care how fashionable it is to be broadminded about porn. I dont like it and I certainly dont want to be forced to see it.

Apart from that, porn and online security are not famous for their compatibility. It's scarey to find your home town so obviously tracked, especially when scam busting is not always the safest job in town. Dont you find it a little ironic that your locality is tracked by the owner, when the rules that were the cause of multiple bannings were those on the subject of publishing personal information. It was bad enough when we thought that a rather dodgy MLMer might have access to our personal information, but a porn broker?....?

Add to the mix, the deletion of important threads with valuable information - most of which happened long before Len Clements became Administrator, you end up with a need for a more reliable and reputable site to post proof of scams. Many of us hope that realscam.com will provide the answer and become a place where victims or future victims can go for reliable and verified information. There is a great need.

I agreed with wishful also. Everyone has choices.

However, some people on this site have chosen to create a number of threads bagging the scam site.

Personally I find that repugnant, but hey, that's my choice to feel that way and it's not because I'm a fan of the site, I feel it demonstrates a level of double standards...I feel that this site is compromising it's own core values and lowering it's own credibility because it claims to exist because scam.com has failed to allow them to properly expose scams and yet we see threads created here solely for the purpose of denigrating the site for a whole range of unrelated issues including the other business activities of the owner. Activities which he has been carrying on since the scam.coms' inception. (for well over 6 years to my knowledge)

That is why I ask these people to be honest with themselves and get on with what they set out to do.

Anyway, It seems I (or my opinion) am not welcome here so I bid you all adieu.

I don't think it's necessary to continue to post on a site which promotes healthy debate on the proviso that your argument fits in with everyone elses.

Good luck with it and as I wrote in one of my earlier posts, I hope it goes well for you!

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WishfulThinking
07-11-2010, 12:44 PM
I agreed with wishful also. Everyone has choices.

However, some people on this site have chosen to create a number of threads bagging the scam site.

Personally I find that repugnant, but hey, that's my choice to feel that way and it's not because I'm a fan of the site, I feel it demonstrates a level of double standards...I feel that this site is compromising it's own core values and lowering it's own credibility because it claims to exist because scam.com has failed to allow them to properly expose scams and yet we see threads created here solely for the purpose of denigrating the site for a whole range of unrelated issues including the other business activities of the owner. Activities which he has been carrying on since the scam.coms' inception. (for well over 6 years to my knowledge)

That is why I ask these people to be honest with themselves and get on with what they set out to do.

Anyway, It seems I (or my opinion) am not welcome here so I bid you all adieu.

I don't think it's necessary to continue to post on a site which promotes healthy debate on the proviso that your argument fits in with everyone elses.

Good luck with it and as I wrote in one of my earlier posts, I hope it goes well for you!

.

I think that you have overreacted Gazza and noone wants you to feel unwelcome here. This thread is, after all, in its proper section


Ranting, Raving and other Ridiculous Diatribes

If it was anywhere else, you might have a valid point, but here....?

Come back and post on the scam sections, where your input will be greatly valued.

Whip
07-11-2010, 01:25 PM
I don't think it's necessary to continue to post on a site which promotes healthy debate on the proviso that your argument fits in with everyone elses.


If you were actually debating, one might almost agree.
But as you have stated:

However, some people on this site have chosen to create a number of threads bagging the scam site.

Personally I find that repugnant
Just shows you only want to bash others for their choice.
No need for the drama farewell like heiney.....just be gone.

A Life Aloft
07-11-2010, 02:16 PM
If you were actually debating, one might almost agree.
But as you have stated:

Just shows you only want to bash others for their choice.
No need for the drama farewell like heiney.....just be gone.I couldn't agree more. People are attacked here, ridiculed, called dishonest, foolish and liars, told that their reasons and opinions are not worthy, not understood meaningless and just discounted off hand, and then told we are the ones overreacting. lmao That is not debate as far as I am concerned. It's being an ass. People are enttitled to believe and feel what they want to and not be attacked and ridiculed for that. Members here have damn good reasons to feel and believe as they do. Something that clearly Gazza does not get and never will. My replys were all very reasoned, logical, calm and a plea for the drama to end and yet I was told,

"Ease up, lady!

If you don't agree with my comments, that's fine but don't go flying off the handle, ranting like a banshee." WTF?

What an inappropriate response. But then when the truth and the facts are pointed out to some people, this is the kind of idiotic response that you often get, so I am not that surprised. It seems to me that he was and is the one flying off at the handle here. lol

People don't come here and have not come here to be harrassed nor ridiculed by Scam fans and told that their objections to Scam are nothing but worthless drivel. I don't why that concept is so hard to grasp. I see no contributions by him whatsover on any of the threads and forums on this entire site having to do with any scams whatsoever, also. Why is it so important to someone that they refuse to just leave people be? Why can't they do that? You have to wonder what motivates anyone to come here and do this. I have seen this thus far in three other posters as well. It needs to end. Some would do well to examine their true reasons for being here and what their position actually is and what they are bringing to this new forum, in my opinion.

I also agree that there are been enough drama here and it needs to end and not constantly being instigated over and over. If a person is not capable of anything else, that seems very apparent rather quickly, however. Many of the members here have suffered enough b.s. and they don't need to be subjected to anymore. I mean what exactly is the point? You cannot control others and their choices. You won't change their minds and all you are doing is ticking them off. People are allowed to choose what is best for them, not be attacked for doing so and not to be able to simply accept that is rather childish.

The sooner the baggage of Scam and that includes certain members there, is behind us......the better for this site. I think that many of us want and need to move forward and none of this is helping. I know that I don't need a little bit of Scam and all of it's issues and drama dragged over here on a constant basis by Scam members and having to deal with that. Leave the baggage at the door. But, I will defend this site, myself and it's members and the Mods if needed. Most of the ugly been thankfully removed and dealt with. The rest will hopefully sort itself out eventually. I am personally committed to stand up for this site, the owner and it's members and support it at every means available to me. We have a great opportunity here. We have been given a fresh start.

Subway_Eat Fresh!!!
07-11-2010, 02:24 PM
I couldn't agree more. People are attacked here, ridiculed, called dishonest, foolish and liars, told that their reasons and opinions are not worthy, not understood meaningless and just discounted off hand, and then told we are the ones overreacting. lmao That is not debate as far as I am concerned. It's being an ass. People are enttitled to believe and feel what they want to and not be attacked and ridiculed for that. Members here have damn good reasons to feel and believe as they do. Something that clearly Gazza does not get and never will. My replys were all very reasoned, logical, calm and a plea for the drama to end and yet I was told,

"Ease up, lady!

If you don't agree with my comments, that's fine but don't go flying off the handle, ranting like a banshee."

What an inappropriate response. But then when the truth and the facts are pointed out to some people, this is the kind of idiotic response that you often get, so I am not that surprised. It seems to me that he was and is the one flying off at the handle here. lol

People don't come here and have not come here to be harrassed nor ridiculed by Scam fans and told that their objections to Scam are nothing but worthless drivel. I don't why that concept is so hard to grasp. I see no contributions by him whatsover on any of the threads and forums on this entire site having to do with any scams whatsoever, also. Why is it so important to someone that they refuse to just leave people be? Why can't they do that? You have to wonder what motivates anyone to come here and do this. I have seen this thus far in three other posters as well. It needs to end. Some would do well to examine their true reasons for being here and what their position actually is and what they are bringing to this new forum, in my opinion.

I also agree that there are been enough drama here and it needs to end and not constantly being instigated over and over. If a person is not capable of anything else, that seems very apparent rather quickly, however. Many of the members here have suffered enough b.s. and they don't need to be subjected to anymore. I mean what exactly is the point? You cannot control others and their choices. You won't change their minds and all you are doing is ticking them off. People are allowed to choose what is best for them, not be attacked for doing so and not to be able to simply accept that is rather childish.

The sooner the baggage of Scam and that includes certain members there, is behind us......the better for this site. I think that many of us want and need to move forward and none of this is helping. I know that I don't need a little bit of Scam and all of it's issues and drama dragged over here on a constant basis by Scam members and having to deal with that. Leave the baggage at the door. But, I will defend this site, myself and it's members and the Mods if needed. Most of the ugly been thankfully removed and dealt with. The rest will hopefully sort itself out eventually. I am personally committed to stand up for this site, the owner and it's members and support it at every means available to me. We have a great opportunity here. We have been given a fresh start.


Well then what are you doing Hanging atound the subforum titled "Ranting, raving and other ridiculous diatribes"? If you want a Fresh Start..... why not view the other subforums that our within this forum..... your in the wrong place buddy.

Emet
07-11-2010, 02:24 PM
<snip>
Continually posting threads knocking another site is bad form...<snip>


Thread count:
Online opportunities: 9
MLM : 40
Work at home : 3
Successful Scam : 3
Investment : 2
Science :1
Faith :3
Mortgage :3
Other: :14
Scams of the past : 3
General : 22
Resources : 2
Rants : 19

Major post counts:
MLM :463
Rants :567

Survey taken 7-11-10 @ 10 a.m. GMT-4

Emet and Associates, LLC
Surveying Web sites since 2010

Emet
07-11-2010, 02:35 PM
<snip> If you want a Fresh Start..... why not view the other subforums that our within this forum.....<snip>

Threads started by ALA:
MLM: 4
Rants: 1

Emet and Associates, LLC
Monitoring Member Activity since 2010

Subway_Eat Fresh!!!
07-11-2010, 02:43 PM
Threads started by ALA:
MLM: 4
Rants: 1

Emet and Associates, LLC
Monitoring Member Activity since 2010


But you have to remember to also include his post counts in each thread..... Also remember that there were posts in this thread in which he was bashing sojuskask and his candid flammatory insults... Soapboxmom had moved posts to another thread that soapboxmom entitled SojustAsk- Hot, Horny, and Hopefully......ultimately the thread was then deleted by SBM along with all of his flamming insults as well. He's had his fair share of ranting and raving.

A Life Aloft
07-11-2010, 02:46 PM
Well then what are you doing Hanging atound the subforum titled "Ranting, raving and other ridiculous diatribes"? If you want a Fresh Start..... why not view the other subforums that our within this forum..... your in the wrong place buddy.And why exactly have you contributed to this forum? Look in the mirror. I have dozens and dozens of very meaningful posts in the MLM forum alone. I just made another there today and one in the Other forum. How many do you have exactly in other forums discussing scams? I also didn't try and pull a fast one by putting Founding Member in my avatar line did I? Makes one wonder.

A Life Aloft
07-11-2010, 02:50 PM
But you have to remember to also include his post counts in each thread..... Also remember that there were posts in this thread in which he was bashing sojuskask and his candid flammatory insults... Soapboxmom had moved posts to another thread that soapboxmom entitled SojustAsk- Hot, Horny, and Hopefully......ultimately the thread was then deleted by SBM along with all of his flamming insults as well. He's had his fair share of ranting and raving.I ranted only to SJA and only about her and only to her in that thread because of her presence here and what she brought here in the way of her lies and continued disruptions and bashes of this site and the Mods and former Mods here. You conveniently left that out to suit your own agenda here. What year do you plan on moving on from that? Perhaps you could start another wonderful, pithy Where's Waldo thread. ROTFL!

Do you need another re-fresher in the updated rules on here including this forum, pal?

14: Please keep complaints or questions about moderation and / or disputes with other members in PMs.

Subway_Eat Fresh!!!
07-11-2010, 02:57 PM
it was to prove point


If you read this thread:

http://www.realscam.com/f24/founding-member-sign-up-page-132/#post1433


Now again... why exactly are you in this subforum if all you do is complain?

Subway_Eat Fresh!!!
07-11-2010, 02:59 PM
I ranted only to SJA and only about her and only to her in that thread because of her presence here and what she brought here in the way of her lies and continued disruptions and bashes of this site and the Mods and former Mods here. You conveniently left that out to suit your own agenda here. What year do you plan on moving on from that? Perhaps you could start another wonderful, pithy Where's Waldo thread. ROTFL!

Perhaps you need another re-fresher in the updated rules on here including this forum, pal:

14: Please keep complaints or questions about moderation and / or disputes with other members in PMs.


I ranted only to SJA and only about her and only to her in that thread because of her presence here and what she brought here in the way of her lies and continued disruptions and bashes of this site and the Mods and former Mods here..

what proof do you have of that.... show posts please

A Life Aloft
07-11-2010, 03:07 PM
Again, if you have an issue with me, and I am only going to tell you this once, put me on ignore. Solves your problem. This thread is entitiled rants, raving etc., The only complaints I have are about morons and those who come here not to contribute but to propagate the same exact crap that was on Scam and bring the garbage over here to this forum. That also includes trolls who contribute nothing of meaning or value here and seem to be here just to flame others, post nonsense and contribute little of any substance except to make a fool of themselves. I read the thread and your posts and just shook my head. I was however, not surprised. Care to answer my question about your own contributions here? Care to point out the fact that your dozens of posts in the flame war between myself and SJA were some of the most vile, disgusting and pornographic posts ever seen by myself and others? Oh, yeah, you also conveniently left that part out as well. Pot meet kettle. lmao

A Life Aloft
07-11-2010, 03:10 PM
what proof do you have of that.... show posts pleaseDo you not have the ability to look up my posts and my threads in the MLM section??? Again I am not surprised. ROTFL! Care to answer my question yet? It's pretty obvious why you are here.

Subway_Eat Fresh!!!
07-11-2010, 03:12 PM
Do you not have the ability to look up my posts and my threads in the MLM section??? Again I am not surprised. ROTFL! Care to answer my question yet? It's pretty obvious why you are here.

Show us......

A Life Aloft
07-11-2010, 03:19 PM
Show us......
Look them up yourself. There is no "us" here, there is only you. You have issues. Pretty obvious issues. You seem to be the only person who claims not to have seen them. But since you have contributed nothing of value on the other forums with the exception of Great Expectations, again......no surprises. Again, I am not obligated to show or prove anything to a worthless Troll who is too lazy to find the info for themselves. lol I will also not allow myself to be baited by your continued Trollish behavior which you have propagated since day one, any longer. I will let the Mods deal with you. Hopefully that will happen sooner rather than later.

Subway_Eat Fresh!!!
07-11-2010, 03:31 PM
Look them up yourself. There is no "us" here, there is only you. You have issues. Pretty obvious issues. You seem to be the only person who claims not to have seen them. But since you have contributed nothing of value on the other forums with the exception of Great Expectations, again......no surprises. Again, I am not obligated to show or prove anything to a worthless Troll who is too lazy to find the info for themselves. lol I will also not allow myself to be baited by your continued Trollish behavior which you have propagated since day one, any longer. I will let the Mods deal with you. Hopefully that will happen sooner rather than later.

My point Exactly... your full of lies and try to cover them up... you cant show us any posts because they don't exist. What a surprise:RpS_ohmy:

I amalso not baiting you... I am asking you to prove something that you obviously can't prove.....your defense to try to "wiggle" yourself out of your lies is to say that I am baiting you. What A wimp.....

Show us proof or move along

Seriously?
07-11-2010, 03:35 PM
Personally, I think you both need to put each other on ignore.

Would anyone like the thread closed so that we can move on?

Subway_Eat Fresh!!!
07-11-2010, 03:41 PM
Personally, I think you both need to put each other on ignore.

Would anyone like the thread closed so that we can move on?

I am in support of closing the thread.... when members like A.L.A Make claims.... and then don't have any proof to back them up they only hurt there own credibility. For A.L.A's sake... it is my belief that we should lock the thread to prevent him from looking more like a fool than he already is.

Seriously?
07-11-2010, 04:11 PM
For A.L.A's sake... it is my belief that we should lock the thread to prevent him from looking more like a fool than he already is.

Ok, now that wasn't necessary. Play nice.

Subway_Eat Fresh!!!
07-11-2010, 04:16 PM
Ok, now that wasn't necessary. Play nice.

On the bottom of this subforum it states If you must flame, do it here. A.L.A has yet to produce evidence regarding SJA....all im asking him to do is provide proof. He can't do it....He does a lot of talking... but when you ask him to produce evidence he chickens out

Unsaved Trash
07-11-2010, 04:17 PM
Subway - What is your screen name over yonder (scamdotcom)?

Subway_Eat Fresh!!!
07-11-2010, 04:21 PM
Subway - What is your screen name over yonder (scamdotcom)?

I am not a member of scam.com....... I dislike scam.com due to all its problems....but i find it interesting that so many people are fascinated by the site....even members of this own forum which is why I created the Thread "How Many times do you view scam.com daily.

Let me ask you Unsaved..... What do you think of members who make claims who can not produce any evidence of it?

Seriously?
07-11-2010, 04:27 PM
On the bottom of this subforum it states If you must flame, do it here. A.L.A has yet to produce evidence regarding SJA....all im asking him to do is provide proof. He can't do it....He does a lot of talking... but when you ask him to produce evidence he chickens out

There is a point at which you need to let it go. As a new board, the mods do not want to alienate anyone here. But IMO, you're treading on thin ice. Yes, this is the rant forum. But if you are going to complain about people continually lambasting scam.com, then you also need to LET IT GO. If ALA is not providing the proof you want, then agree to disagree, put him on ignore, and move on.

Subway_Eat Fresh!!!
07-11-2010, 04:34 PM
There is a point at which you need to let it go. As a new board, the mods do not want to alienate anyone here. But IMO, you're treading on thin ice. Yes, this is the rant forum. But if you are going to complain about people continually lambasting scam.com, then you also need to LET IT GO. If ALA is not providing the proof you want, then agree to disagree, put him on ignore, and move on.

So are you saying that It is ok for a member to come on this forum make all sorts of claims and members are not allowed to call him out on it if he wont prove his claim???

Is it my understanding from your post that members can not call other members out when they are lying???

Sounds like any scammer can come on this forum make claims and no one can call him out on it. This is no different ALA has been making claims about SJA.... But when pressed for proof he chickens out. (which is of no surprise to me)

Unsaved Trash
07-11-2010, 04:37 PM
I am not a member of scam.com....... I dislike scam.com due to all its problems....but i find it interesting that so many people are fascinated by the site....even members of this own forum which is why I created the Thread "How Many times do you view scam.com daily.

Let me ask you Unsaved..... What do you think of members who make claims who can not produce any evidence of it?

Are you referring to the MLM claims? Or are you referring to something else? I can be anyone I want to be on the internet. I've often stated that I'm the love child of Marilyn Monroe and JFK. Do I have to prove it? No. I can also express my opinion if I feel that I've been ripped off. Do I have to prove it? Yes, but that's just me.

Here is a great example of a claim I saw daily: "We have the only Nutritional Products listed in the Physician Desk Reference out of 3500 pages! We've been around for 106 Years!

Our Products can Reduce the risk Of Cardiovascular Disease and Lose weight.

It's also been clinically proven in eight scientific trials and clinical studies at top Universities, Hospitals, and Research institutions around the world. Click Here!" Of course the website is now disabled.

Or this one? Internet Riches Made Easy TM by Bob Gatchel (http://internetrichesmadeeasy.com/clickbank/) I asked Bob Gatchel to prove this several times. No response.

I already know the answers, so no, I don't think someone has to provide evidence. If they did, there wouldn't be anyone to kick around. And that's the fun part.

Seriously?
07-11-2010, 04:47 PM
Well then what are you doing Hanging atound the subforum titled "Ranting, raving and other ridiculous diatribes"? If you want a Fresh Start..... why not view the other subforums that our within this forum..... your in the wrong place buddy.


But you have to remember to also include his post counts in each thread..... Also remember that there were posts in this thread in which he was bashing sojuskask and his candid flammatory insults... Soapboxmom had moved posts to another thread that soapboxmom entitled SojustAsk- Hot, Horny, and Hopefully......ultimately the thread was then deleted by SBM along with all of his flamming insults as well. He's had his fair share of ranting and raving.


it was to prove point


If you read this thread:

http://www.realscam.com/f24/founding-member-sign-up-page-132/#post1433


Now again... why exactly are you in this subforum if all you do is complain?


what proof do you have of that.... show posts please


Show us......



My point Exactly... your full of lies and try to cover them up... you cant show us any posts because they don't exist. What a surprise:RpS_ohmy:

I amalso not baiting you... I am asking you to prove something that you obviously can't prove.....your defense to try to "wiggle" yourself out of your lies is to say that I am baiting you. What A wimp.....

Show us proof or move along


I am in support of closing the thread.... when members like A.L.A Make claims.... and then don't have any proof to back them up they only hurt there own credibility. For A.L.A's sake... it is my belief that we should lock the thread to prevent him from looking more like a fool than he already is.


On the bottom of this subforum it states If you must flame, do it here. A.L.A has yet to produce evidence regarding SJA....all im asking him to do is provide proof. He can't do it....He does a lot of talking... but when you ask him to produce evidence he chickens out


So are you saying that It is ok for a member to come on this forum make all sorts of claims and members are not allowed to call him out on it if he wont prove his claim???

Is it my understanding from your post that members can not call other members out when they are lying???

Sounds like any scammer can come on this forum make claims and no one can call him out on it. This is no different ALA has been making claims about SJA.... But when pressed for proof he chickens out. (which is of no surprise to me)

No, I'm not saying you can't call someone on something. But when you continue on and on and on about it.... It becomes old very fast. Those of us who were on scam.com know about SJA and have opinions. If you are not a member of scam.com, then why is this of such interest to you?

Subway_Eat Fresh!!!
07-11-2010, 04:53 PM
Are you referring to the MLM claims? Or are you referring to something else? I can be anyone I want to be on the internet. I've often stated that I'm the love child of Marilyn Monroe and JFK. Do I have to prove it? No. I can also express my opinion if I feel that I've been ripped off. Do I have to prove it? Yes, but that's just me.

Here is a great example of a claim I saw daily: "We have the only Nutritional Products listed in the Physician Desk Reference out of 3500 pages! We've been around for 106 Years!

Our Products can Reduce the risk Of Cardiovascular Disease and Lose weight.

It's also been clinically proven in eight scientific trials and clinical studies at top Universities, Hospitals, and Research institutions around the world. Click Here!" Of course the website is now disabled.

Or this one? Internet Riches Made Easy TM by Bob Gatchel (http://internetrichesmadeeasy.com/clickbank/) I asked Bob Gatchel to prove this several times. No response.

I already know the answers, so no, I don't think someone has provide evidence. If they did, there wouldn't be anyone to kick around. And that's the fun part.


Are you referring to the MLM claims? Or are you referring to something else? I can be anyone I want to be on the internet. I've often stated that I'm the love child of Marilyn Monroe and JFK. Do I have to prove it? No. I can also express my opinion if I feel that I've been ripped off. Do I have to prove it? Yes, but that's just me..

So are you suggesting that its ok for people to require proof when its in regards to MLM. But not when its in regards to a person??? If thats the case then all the Len Clements threads would be unacceptable.

I have asked ALA to prove his claims regarding SJA. his response. "just look at the threads. I have .... show me.... yet he still wont prove it... more than likely because he's a liar and is trying to cover his tail.

Ultimately what im trying to find out is why is ok for me to ask you for proof if youve been ripped off but not ok for me to ask you to provide proof if your the love child of Marilyn Monroe or JFK?

Subway_Eat Fresh!!!
07-11-2010, 05:01 PM
No, I'm not saying you can't call someone on something. But when you continue on and on and on about it.... It becomes old very fast. Those of us who were on scam.com know about SJA and have opinions. If you are not a member of scam.com, then why is this of such interest to you?


Even with someone's opinion they should be able to show posts of what lead them to that opinion when asked.......Otherwise they may develop a false opinion and require others to create false opinions.

For Example If I believe someone is a scammer.... I better have proof that makes me believe that she/he is indeed a scammer.... Without it you may be falsely accussing someone

Emet
07-11-2010, 05:04 PM
PDNFTT.

Thank you.

Unsaved Trash
07-11-2010, 05:09 PM
So are you suggesting that its ok for people to require proof when its in regards to MLM. But not when its in regards to a person??? If thats the case then all the Len Clements threads would be unacceptable.

Is that what I said? I don't think so. Go back and read it again.

What if I could prove without a shadow of doubt that you are/were indeed a member of scam.com?


I have asked ALA to prove his claims regarding SJA. his response. "just look at the threads. I have .... show me.... yet he still wont prove it... more than likely because he's a liar and is trying to cover his tail.

And you don't call that baiting? I cannot speak for anyone but myself.


Ultimately what im trying to find out is why is ok for me to ask you for proof if youve been ripped off but not ok for me to ask you to provide proof if your the love child of Marilyn Monroe or JFK?

I answered your question once. Do you want me to repeat it again? Or are you here simply to create hate and discontent?

Subway_Eat Fresh!!!
07-11-2010, 05:23 PM
Is that what I said? I don't think so. Go back and read it again.?

Thats the way I understood it......


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Are you referring to the MLM claims? Or are you referring to something else? I can be anyone I want to be on the internet. I've often stated that I'm the love child of Marilyn Monroe and JFK. Do I have to prove it? No. I can also express my opinion if I feel that I've been ripped off. Do I have to prove it? Yes, but that's just me..

Am I suppose to understand it any other way?




And you don't call that baiting? I cannot speak for anyone but myself.

nope i call it asking for truthfulness and honestness




I answered your question once. Do you want me to repeat it again?

Once again......Am I suppose to understand it any other way?

Soapboxmom
07-11-2010, 05:33 PM
Quatloos! &bull; View topic - New Management at Scam.com (http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=5902)

Quatloos! &bull; View topic - New Management at Scam.com II (http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=5967)

There are two threads about Scam and SJA. Enjoy those and I am sure all your questions will be answered. The ice is getting exceptionally thin. Consider this a friendly warning.

Soapboxmom

Seriously?
07-11-2010, 05:47 PM
Thats the way I understood it......



Am I suppose to understand it any other way?



nope i call it asking for truthfulness and honestness



Once again......Am I suppose to understand it any other way?
What I'm understanding is that you are not "understanding". Purposely.

I have asked that you knock it off. Now SBM has asked you to knock it off. That means a mod and an admin have made a request. Are you or aren't you going to take the hint?

Subway_Eat Fresh!!!
07-11-2010, 05:49 PM
Quatloos! &bull; View topic - New Management at Scam.com (http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=5902)

Quatloos! &bull; View topic - New Management at Scam.com II (http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=5967)

There are two threads about Scam and SJA. Enjoy those and I am sure all your questions will be answered. The ice is getting exceptionally thin. Consider this a friendly warning.

Soapboxmom


Ahhh haa!!!!! Proof... However it doesnt have to do with ALA's claim on the "Lies" that SJA made on this forum..... But I will leave it at that.

If you want to have members on this forum who will make claims and statements without proving those statements that were made than that is up to you.... I seek truthality and honesty as well as integrity. with members making statements and claims without providing documentation of the truthfulness of those statements you wonder what kind of members are on this forum.

Im not sure what "thin ice" im treading on....but whatever it is I like Ice...especially in the winter when its cold. I'll leave this forum on my own free will as I dont like people (or forums in this case) that allow members to make statements without the necessary proof claims

Emet
07-11-2010, 05:54 PM
What Is A Troll?


The term derives from "trolling", a style of fishing which involves trailing bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite. The troll posts a message, often in response to an honest question, that is intended to upset, disrupt or simply insult the group.

Usually, it will fail, as the troll rarely bothers to match the tone or style of the group, and usually its ignorance shows.

Why do trolls do it?

I believe that most trolls are sad people, living their lonely lives vicariously through those they see as strong and successful.

Disrupting a stable newsgroup gives the illusion of power, just as for a few, stalking a strong person allows them to think they are strong, too.

For trolls, any response is 'recognition'; they are unable to distinguish between irritation and admiration; their ego grows directly in proportion to the response, regardless of the form or content of that response.

Trolls, rather surprisingly, dispute this, claiming that it's a game or joke; this merely confirms the diagnosis; how sad do you have to be to find such mind-numbingly trivial timewasting to be funny?

Remember that trolls are cowards; they'll usually post just enough to get an argument going, then sit back and count the responses (Yes, that's what they do!).

Internet Trolls (http://www.flayme.com/troll/)

klondikemike
07-13-2010, 12:36 PM
What if I could prove without a shadow of doubt that you are/were indeed a member of scam.com?


How would you do that?

I thought only lenny tried to 'out' people and prove their identities.

Are you in that business now?

Unsaved Trash
07-13-2010, 12:46 PM
How would you do that?

I thought only lenny tried to 'out' people and prove their identities.

Are you in that business now?

It was a bluff and it worked. I don't have access to that info. Do you know what a sock puppet is? I'm also not a mod.

klondikemike
07-13-2010, 01:24 PM
What if I could prove without a shadow of doubt that you are/were indeed a member of scam.com?


How would you prove that?

I thought only Lenny tried to prove posters' identities?

klondikemike
07-13-2010, 01:31 PM
How would you prove that?

I thought only Lenny tried to prove posters' identities?

Sorry for the double post, I cannot delete the 2nd post. A combination computer and site issues.

klondikemike
07-13-2010, 01:36 PM
It was a bluff and it worked. I don't have access to that info. Do you know what a sock puppet is? I'm also not a mod.

A bluff that worked? Was the goal to get the user banned?

Emet
07-13-2010, 01:57 PM
PDNFTT.

Thank you.

Thank you again.

klondikemike
07-13-2010, 02:47 PM
Thank you again.

DATQYT

Thank you.

Unsaved Trash
07-13-2010, 03:08 PM
A bluff that worked? Was the goal to get the user banned?

I didn't realize I had that power to do so. Why? Because I don't.

Do you know what baiting is? Do you know what a dreg is from another site? It's called a plant. There is your answer. I have been a mod on another site for over 5 years. I was a mod at another scam site for a year and a half. I'm perceptive. I'm ending my portion of this discussion here. If you continue to bring it up with me, you won't receive a reply back. I answered all of your questions.

iamwil
07-13-2010, 03:35 PM
Iamwil and Iamonbothforums as Iamwil

klondikemike
07-13-2010, 03:59 PM
From your previous post, "Do you know what a sock puppet is?"

Yes, but not sure what that had to do with my question.




Do you know what baiting is?


Yes, but it appears any questions on this thread are called either baiting or trolls



Do you know what a dreg is from another site? It's called a plant. There is your answer.


A dreg from another site is a plant? ok

I simply asked how you would prove beyond a shadow of a doubt who the poster was on another site.

You seem to think you have answered all of the questions and refuse to repsond anymore.



I'm ending my portion of this discussion here. If you continue to bring it up with me, you won't receive a reply back. I answered all of your questions.

GlimDropper
07-13-2010, 04:27 PM
How would you prove that?

I thought only Lenny tried to prove posters' identities?

Prove them? Sometimes it's helpful to do something like that. The question becomes what you do with that information. If using the information we can find as the basis for a private discussion of someone's posting abilities, seems egregious to you I'm afraid we'll have to agree to disagree. A better question is what else did we do with this info and I got the best answer, nothing.

klondikemike
07-13-2010, 04:49 PM
It was a bluff and it worked. I don't have access to that info. Do you know what a sock puppet is? I'm also not a mod.


Prove them? Sometimes it's helpful to do something like that. The question becomes what you do with that information. If using the information we can find as the basis for a private discussion of someone's posting abilities, seems egregious to you I'm afraid we'll have to agree to disagree. A better question is what else did we do with this info and I got the best answer, nothing.

So the 'bluff' became a private discussion of somone's posting abilities that eventually you did nothing with the info.

gotit

GlimDropper
07-13-2010, 05:13 PM
This forum software supplies us with all the same information that just about all forum software does. We used that information to ban someone which is pretty much the reason the software has those features. That is all we did.

klondikemike
07-13-2010, 09:23 PM
Do you know what a sock puppet is?




Do you know what baiting is?

Do you know what a dreg is from another site?


Having a conversation with you Unsaved, reminds me of Captain Oveur from Airplane,
played by Peter Graves.

Captain Oveur: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators?

Captain Oveur: Joey, have you ever been to a Turkish prison?

Captain Oveur: You ever been in a cockpit before?

Captain Oveur: You ever seen a grown man naked?

Soapboxmom
07-29-2010, 11:14 AM
Scam.com has lost its Google ads again. Maybe George will change IPs again so none of the threads will show up on Google.

Soapboxmom

Soapboxmom
07-29-2010, 11:24 AM
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c110/soapboxmom/ScamTrafficRank.png

iamwil
07-29-2010, 11:31 AM
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c110/soapboxmom/ScamTrafficRank.pngHow do I read that chart?

What do the numbers on the left mean?

nomaxim
07-29-2010, 03:23 PM
Look at it this way. Two months ago Scam.com had a Alexa traffic rank in the US around 3,400. At present the Alexa rating (http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/scam.com#) in the US is 19,141.

What does that mean. Well, the more visitors to a website the higher the rating. For example, Alexa- Google (http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/google.com#) is rating #1 in the US and the world, Alexa- Facebook (http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/facebook.com#) is #2 in the US and the world, Alexa- CNN (http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/cnn.com#) is #18 in the US and #58 in the world, and Alexa- BBC (http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bbc.co.uk#) is rated #6 in the UK and #42 in the world.

Another web traffic tool is siteanalytics.compete.com/scam.com (http://siteanalytics.compete.com/scam.com/?src=dt100) which actually gives a estimate of the amount of people going to a website. It is just a estimate but it shows that Scam.com had a estimated 339,039 unique visitors on 20MAY2010. However, on 20JUN2010 it only had around 155,986 unique visitors. (figures for July aren't out yet). Basically, the number of people going to the website dropped by a little over half in late May/early June.

Soapboxmom
07-29-2010, 09:52 PM
<a href='http://siteanalytics.compete.com/scam.com/?metric=uv'><img src='http://grapher.compete.com/scam.com_uv.png' /></a>

Soapboxmom

Unsaved Trash
07-29-2010, 10:32 PM
I guess that wonderful and insightful thread, Yes SBM we have recovered, is full of yet more lies posted by Stephanie, aka Sojustask. It seems to me that the old heifer wants me to go after her again since she has broken her word to me once again. The woman is a liar, a fake, and a mean spirited bitch. While this particular board has made no mention of her, she won't let it die although she promised me that she would. Now she has people with multitiple IDs posting on there and she knows it. So Stephanie, I guess you have declared yourself be the ruler of all and beyond reproach. That won't last long. Bitch. Remember those emails I promised I wouldn't post? Well since you've broken your word, why should I keep mine? They're pretty damaging right along with the ones from Jebaroo, a multiple identity poster with more than one person posting on the same account. And don't use the Kermit the Frog bullshit either, Jeb.

Cranky Old Man
07-30-2010, 06:08 AM
I have been sitting back and reading this entire forum and know I have made the right decision not to remain here. All I see here are a lot of hate mongers and those that like to bash others and tell them what they can and cannot do. Now I know where all of those that were on another forum came to so they could reign supreme in their reign of terror. Ta-ta cretins. I am one that will not be stiffled by anyone nor be told whom I may or may not talk to as has been tried. When some of you here get your minds out of the gutter and your heads out of each others ass, you may just become human again.

Soapboxmom
07-30-2010, 08:52 AM
Scam.com's mass deletions are continuing. Another huge pile of very popular threads concerning MLM scammers including Evolv have vanished. Any lawyer letter no matter how inane scares the porn mogul into action. George's anti-Scam site is a complete joke. Every scammer out there will be requesting him to remove threads as he immediately caves. Shop Flip Flops threads disappeared repeatedly even though the alleged lawyer writing the letters didn't exist and was not listed as licensed. A Mod involved explained that to him, but George is just dense.

So, Scammers, send in your fake lawyer letters immedaitely! George of the Jungle is waiting! :RpS_flapper:

Soapboxmom

A Life Aloft
07-30-2010, 09:42 AM
I have been sitting back and reading this entire forum and know I have made the right decision not to remain here. All I see here are a lot of hate mongers and those that like to bash others and tell them what they can and cannot do. Now I know where all of those that were on another forum came to so they could reign supreme in their reign of terror. Ta-ta cretins. I am one that will not be stiffled by anyone nor be told whom I may or may not talk to as has been tried. When some of you here get your minds out of the gutter and your heads out of each others ass, you may just become human again.
You need to look in the mirror Old Timer. You are a liar and a hypocrite. A thread was started about this forum and the members here on Scam, on July the 6th (which is now 7 pages long of venom, lies and baiting b.s.) and all of you a holes have been posting on it, daily ever since. Hell, you posted on it today. In fact you have posted bullshit , lies and snarky rude comments 19 times on that thread. You already made one Drama Queen exit on here, we don't need another. Grow up and just leave.

You are an old fool. Your posts are worthless, inane drivel. Just unplug your puter and move into assisted living and get it the hell over with. Crawl the hell back to the cesspool with the other idiot posters there. It's where you belong. You fit right in. If you are lucky, maybe some teenager will join that site and you can drool and make inappropriate comments her as you are infamous for doing on other forums, you jackass. I'd be more than happy to publish them here along with the inappropriate pictures if you like. That's why you have no issue in supporting a porn mogul like George. I imagine you are a very regular visitor to many of his porn sites.

We've had several assholes from Scam (some of them using multiple screen name) and even Lady Loser herself, come over here and with the sole intent of trying to destroy this forum and harass the owner, the Mods and the members. You are nothing but another troll from the cesspool. Guess what jerk-off, it hasn't worked and it won't work. I knew there were some seriously disturbed people on that forum, but I never realized how sick and desperate and jacked up all of you were til now.

That moron childish Kermt jerk is spouting nothing but lies. He is Lady Losers pet Troll and created and encouraged by her. He has stated and keeps stating that I said horrible things to Lisa on here when in truth I never once made one comment about her or to her in the short time we were both members here. In fact I had her on ignore. I went after one person and one person only. The Queen Bitch of Scam. He leaves out all the pornographic filth and dozens of vile posts that he spewed and his major concern and descriptions over my privates on the thread that was justly deleted. How messed up are you people at Scam? lmao Seriously. What's hysterical is that some of you dare to call yourselves Christians! I 've seen dogs with higher IQs and more morals and ethics than any of you possess.

You and the others sit there like the brain dead fools that you are and just all believe this crap. You believe anything. The assumptions and idiotic conclusions I have seen coming from there are so childish and so juvenile and complete lies. Then you all chime in with your own bullshit lying comments likes flies on a dung heap. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. You have baited and taunted everyone on this site since it started and then you dare to point fingers when people over here have had enough.

Then, Lady Loser starts a thread to award posters from Scam like him, who come here and makes asses of themselves and get banned. You lot at Scam are the most pathetic warped bunch of assholes I have ever seen on the internet in my life. Stay the hell over there, you are not welcome or needed here. Your behavior there, will not be allowed to continue over here. Move on and get a damn life. It's pretty obvious that none of you actually have a life of any sort and are just a bunch or bored, old, lonely outcasts who have finally found a common enemy and something to mindlessly blither about. Read your damn posts and think about them. What is it you think you are accomplishing? What you are doing is making complete horses asses out of yourself and driving away traffic from that hell hole. Don't let the door slam you on the ass on your way back to the cesspool. You are just a part of the most pathetic group of losers and unintelligent embeciles that I have ever witnessed in one group in my life. Stay there with your ilk Old Fool.

Your lecturous behavior (posts and photos) with a teenage girl from other forums (including one that you were banned from for this behavior) would make really interesting reading for many on here, you pervert.

Nobody gives a damn what you think about this site nor the members or the Mods. Take your Ex-lax, tighten your Depends and drag your wrinkled ass back to where you belong.

A Life Aloft
07-30-2010, 09:57 AM
Sorry for the rant, but I have so had it already with the Scum from Scam! I have sat and read that thread over there and all the lies about myself and others on this forum for several weeks now while saying nothing but now, I am fed the hell up! I have discouraged any more talk of that place to several posters here. I have tried to move on. But the Scum from Scam just keep appearing here and creating crap and are spending so much effort and time on a daily basis baiting the members here over at the cesspool, that I have finally had my damn fill. They want a fight, bring it the hell on. It's especially cute that their newest hero is a guy that LM knows, and who she purposely tag teamed over with here, is masquerading as a fricking frog. ROTFL! Great minds over there, great minds. That is what that site attracts. He probaly just raised the collective IQ level there to maybe 15 since he appeared.

iamwil
07-30-2010, 10:40 AM
You need to look in the mirror Old Timer. You are a liar and a hypocrite.Gosh, when I first joined over there you to were reminiscing in the chat room and I think you even offered to take him flying...

Life is just too short for all this animosity.

A Life Aloft
07-30-2010, 11:02 AM
That was before I really discovered his behavior with a teen girl on the internet Wil and how far it had gone and for how long. It continues to this day, in fact. I finally saw what kind of person he really is. He's a perv. A sick old man, more than three times her age! If you had seen his hundreds of inappropriate posts and pics to her, you might feel differently. And he is married to boot. I feel sorry for his poor wife, believe me. I am sure she has no idea of what he does all day long on the net while she is away at work. That is the problem with the internet. You don't really know what or who theses people are til they out themselves. He was banned from one forum for his behavior when the Mod asked him to stop and when the other members complained about his behavior. People left the forum because of his behavior. He was warned and continued. Then he was banned. You notice his comment above, "I am one that will not be stiffled by anyone nor be told whom I may or may not talk to as has been tried." That is exactly what he is referring to. He was warned to stop the comments and pictures with the kid. He just cannot stop himself. He's one sick puppy. He has a friend twice that girl's age and they opened their own tiny forum and invited her there so they could continue what they did on the other forum. It's really jacked up. If you only knew. It makes me sick. The he has the nerve to come on here and talk about people having their minds in the gutter. That was it for me. The gloves are off.

Cranky Old Man
07-30-2010, 11:42 AM
You really do like to lay it on don't you. I have never said or done one thing out of line with anyone of any age on or off of the forum. Unlike you and some others, I do not run a person down, call them names or try to convince others that someone is a really bad person. It seems to be that the moment that someone does not agree with you or others like you that the barrages will begin. You have turned into one of those foul mouthed people that others do not like to be around. Unlike you and others I do not kotow to anyone and let them dictate to me what I can and cannot do, who I may or may not talk to. And if I were you I would be very careful about being slanderous without proof. I understand that the courts take a very dim view of someone doing that unjustly.This is not a threat or a promise. Just a friendly piece of advise. And please remembersd that the person in question that I have been talking to, has been and is of legal age. And doesn't like you either. OH, and have a nice day.

A Life Aloft
07-30-2010, 11:56 AM
I tell the truth Drama Queen Pervert. Would you like me to posts the links and the posts here for everyone to see? I have the proof. That forum is still open jackass and I now have permission form the Mod to post the info here. Society takes a dim view of old men who stalk teens on the internet. She was 18 years old when this crap started! 18! You are in your 70's and married! You drooled over her and made hundreds of tacky, sexual, inappropriate comments to her and you were finally banned for that. THAT is the truth. So here is some friendly advice for you, taske your ass back to Scam. I will be more than happy to post the links with the pics and all of your comments here if you like. Let's see you worm your way out of the truth now, you lonely old perv.

A Life Aloft
07-30-2010, 12:05 PM
In fact, let's start with your banning:

Great night out - Page 4 (http://talkusdown.forumotion.com/general-chat-f2/great-night-out-t905-120.htm)

Great night out - Page 5 (http://talkusdown.forumotion.com/general-chat-f2/great-night-out-t905-160.htm)

HotParadox on Sun May 02, 2010 2:36 pm
Ok, so we seem to be clear here about inappropriate pics. Problem solved, I trust, but if it comes up again, I'm locking the thread and then it's case closed.

HotParadox on Mon May 03, 2010 5:02 pm


Old Timer wrote:
sWith all due respect to you Lisan I have no quarel with you. As far as a dictatrorship goes NEVER will I allow my self to be silenced by anyone. the only way anyone can stop me is tpo BAN me. And I really don't give a dam if she does or not. I am quite sure she will continue to ban all that do not bow down to her as supreme ruler. So ban away. Because it is the only way you will ever be able to silence me.

Here are some the forum rules:

Personal info: Do not post members personal info publicly on the boards, This will not be tolerated. 1st offense is a 1 month suspension , the 2nd offense is permanent ban

Moderators The moderators have the last word. Do not publicly criticize them. If you got a problem, take it up with the administrator/super moderators via PM only.

Admin/Super Moderators: Reserve the right to automatically ban a violating user for as long as they deem fit. Do not publicly criticize the mods or the website as a whole, do not attempt to undermine their authority. If you got a problem, handle it off the public board, do it through private message or email.
Forum Rules (http://talkusdown.forumotion.com/general-chat-f2/forum-rules-t114.htm)

**********************

You have already posted personal information about me and I didn't ban you.

You have criticized me publicly and undermined my authority several times now. And for this, I also could have banned you, more than once, but instead I've warned you to knock it off. Yet, you continue to ignore this rule, again, right here in this post. In fact, you dare me to ban you.

You understand the rules of this board, but you refuse to play by the rules and that is fine with me.

But this time, I have no choice but to ban you and you have earned it all on your own.

HotMod

There are dozens and dozens of threads on this forum where you and your buddy drooled and made hundreds of inaproriate comments to this girl. You had her posing for you. She egged you both on and this behavior was right up your alley. You are a sick old perv. Several members asked both of you to stop many times and people left the forum because of the behavior of the three of you. You are disgusting.

Cranky Old Man
07-30-2010, 12:06 PM
It seems that your name calling still goes on doesn't it. Do as you will. I have nothing to hide. I also have a record of what I posted.

A Life Aloft
07-30-2010, 12:31 PM
You eve posted a picture of two nude women from the net and called it your harem. Let's look at some of your comments to a teenage girl:

"wanna know something weird i have a catwomen outfit that i got yesterday that looks near exactly like that except for the mask bit lol :S xxxxxx"

your reply: "So are you going to model it for us."

xshivx wrote:
LOL i'll think about it xxxxxx

Your response: "We wait with great expatations. Sweetie you are a very beautiful young lady and quite the heart breaker."

Then after she posts the pic for you:

Your reply: "Hey sweetie, I think you are starting to make these bum here sweat a little.
heheheheheheheheh"
Then you say:"Careful now or you will be the one having a heart attack. Especially if her next pictue has her in spike heels and a whip." and "You already have both NR & the dirty old DAWG panting and howling at the moon. hehehehehehehe "

You also gushed very inappropriately, many many times over all her teen age girl friends pics that she posted for you two. Keep in mind that you are in your 70's and married and she is a teenager!

This doesn't count the PMS you were constantly exchanging with her and talking about.

Put It Out There Baby on Fri May 07, 2010 10:08 am This was my reply to his buddy who also made hundreds of perv comments to this girl.

Do you not see a problem with a MAN almost 40 years old, calling a KID 19 years old, sexy? WTF is wrong with you? Is your PM function not working? If you have to exhibit pervy inappropriate behavior, save it for PMs. No one else wants to see this crap.

And this is what Theo said:Theophilus on Fri May 07, 2010 10:18 pm


"Is it a big deal that some might be offended. I don't think it is asking to much to be respectful towards people's feelings. Some were really put off by the comments made. Do your remember how you and OT were commenting on how dead this place was? Well it was because of some of the comments made, and some (most) did not want to involve themselves in the conversation.

Some would just like to discuss the issue of the day."

Coontie left that site because of you two and the girl and many other members left as well.

All your pervy comments, your behavior the inuendos, the photos and the pics are there forever on the net. Shall I post the worst of the comments for you? I am trying to keep it mild here out of respect for this forum.

Cranky Old Man
07-30-2010, 12:51 PM
And for your info, I am not in my 70's. It seems that I have broken no law of any kind. What business is it of yours what I or she say. None of it is or has been directed toward you in any way form or shape. What gives you the right to but in and say anything at all in the first place. None of our conversations had anything to do with you. You have no authority of any kind and if you did, no law was broken. All it seems that you want to do is become akin to lord and master to all and they had better do as you and others say or you will lower the boom on them. Go on do what you will. Keep on digging yourself in. Oh and BTW. My wife has seen all of the posts I made and knows I have done nothing against the law. Except your law it seems. So sorry but that is one law I don't have to obey.

A Life Aloft
07-30-2010, 01:06 PM
"Hi sweetie ya still there", " love yer new pictue. Wish I could see it full size", "Well me and the Hound sure would like to see a larger picture of you ya know", "And I still am going to adopt you." "It now looks like we have our very own pinup girl." "Well when you can get yourself a camera and keep posting new pictures for us".

This was when she turned 19. She had been 18 for sometime on the forum while this crap was going on.
"Happy birthday to the prettiest girl in all of The British kingdom", "Hey sweetie, how come no picture? I need somthing to get my blood pressure up and pumping in the morning. You know how us dirty old men are. Trust me your the best looking one out here. And you are certainly better looking than that dirty old Dawg partner in trouble of mine "

I stated this to them before I left the forum. " frankly, I find all the swooning, fawning and drooling by adult males (again two and three times her age and some of them married) on here over a teen age year girl rather pervish and very wierd actually. This goes way beyond being kind or nice or supportive or understanding either! What excuse is there for the behavior that I see on here by MEN to a supposed young GIRL??? WOW! I just have held back from posting this on here but I have felt that since it first began and wondered what the hell "adults" were thinking. And it has just gotten worse as time goes by. But if you want to open a can of worms on here, I will. If I ever saw that behavior by strangers and men on the internet to my teenage daughter, the alarm bells would have sounded very loudly. It's embarrassing and sickening and has crossed the line long ago. I bet her parents would just be so thrilled to see that! Talk about being an ass and making a fool of yourself! This whole bullshit is a great Dr. Phil episode. That, or Jerry Springer. lmao If that is what floats your boat, go for it. I find it disgusting. She is supposedly, 19 years old for God's sake! And you were posting gargange to her while she was 18! Get a grip! The whole situation is jacked up."

To me legal age is not the issue here. It is totaly inapproiate behavior by a man over three times her age on the net and who is married. He told her he loved her, called here many endearing names that he should have been saving for his wife!

As I have stated, there are hundreds and I mean hundreds of these comments and photos and pics on that forum.

A Life Aloft
07-30-2010, 01:10 PM
And for your info, I am not in my 70's. It seems that I have broken no law of any kind. What business is it of yours what I or she say. None of it is or has been directed toward you in any way form or shape. What gives you the right to but in and say anything at all in the first place. None of our conversations had anything to do with you. You have no authority of any kind and if you did, no law was broken. All it seems that you want to do is become akin to lord and master to all and they had better do as you and others say or you will lower the boom on them. Go on do what you will. Keep on digging yourself in. Oh and BTW. My wife has seen all of the posts I made and knows I have done nothing against the law. Except your law it seems. So sorry but that is one law I don't have to obey.Interesting that you have given your age as in your seventies several times and your photo on that forum sure looks like it. Don't try and tell me you are not at least more that three times that teenage girls age! This isn't about the law, asshole. This is about morals, ethics and values of which you have none! You dare to come on here and accuse people of having their heads in the gutter! Hell, you live in the gutter, pal! You are a married man carrying on with a teenager who is young enough to be your grandaughter and you see no issue in this whatsoever. What does that say about you? PERV!

A Life Aloft
07-30-2010, 01:31 PM
Here are some of your comments to her on the new forum:

"Anyways here is the picture I like best. And yes you are lovely" "Surely you don't think our X would go all britney spears and go out with no draws on.
For shame.... for shame." Talking about more photos-"Yeah, so many beautiful women and so little time. But I'm working on them as fast as I can." "Well sweetie, if nothing else, you certainly do have the figure for those clothes." "You two (and he was referring to a pic the kid posted of her and her girlfriend) are lucky I am not single and a couple of centuries younger or I would be there in a heartbeat." Referring to another photo- "I like this one, sweetie. Only thing missing there is me."

I don't have time for more right now but I will make time if I need to. At least your Avatar fits you. lol You want to keep this up Old Fool? Your choice, pal. YOU came on here and started this crap today, but I sure as hell am prepared to finish it! I am done putting up with garbage from the drecks of Scam.

Cranky Old Man
07-30-2010, 01:45 PM
As I stated before. It was none of your business in the first place. What gives you the right to judge anyone or condem anyone. You are butting in where you were not invited nor talked about or had anything to do with you. What do you think you are, an avenging angel with the right to tell others what to do. I don't think so. Keep going, your digging it deeper.

Soapboxmom
07-30-2010, 02:06 PM
Well,

Any posts like the ones described go on here I will remove them and ban the parties responsible. Mods have to use good judgment and personal pictures and information is certainly not welcome. Neither are posts that seem suggestive or innapropriate in any way. There is a place for all that stuff and such questionable behavior. It is called college!!!!

Soapboxmom

Cranky Old Man
07-30-2010, 02:33 PM
Maybe you should talk to your boy ALA as he is the one doing all of the name calling and making the accusations. None of the posts I made to that young lady are any of his business or had anything to do with him. I have not made any threats called anyone names or done anything wrong. So, now just who is the one that you are warning? Him or me. Let's be honest now. Neither are posts that seem suggestive or innapropriate in any way. Without knowing the humor behind any given post or what was really meant, who has the right to say what is right or wrong. Neither he nor you are my judge, jury or exectioner. Neither of you know the whole story. Do as you will.

Unsaved Trash
07-30-2010, 03:58 PM
I guess that wonderful and insightful thread, Yes SBM we have recovered, is full of yet more lies posted by Stephanie, aka Sojustask. It seems to me that the old heifer wants me to go after her again since she has broken her word to me once again. The woman is a liar, a fake, and a mean spirited bitch. While this particular board has made no mention of her, she won't let it die although she promised me that she would. Now she has people with multitiple IDs posting on there and she knows it. So Stephanie, I guess you have declared yourself be the ruler of all and beyond reproach. That won't last long. Bitch. Remember those emails I promised I wouldn't post? Well since you've broken your word, why should I keep mine? They're pretty damaging right along with the ones from Jebaroo, a multiple identity poster with more than one person posting on the same account. And don't use the Kermit the Frog bullshit either, Jeb.

I'm retracting this post because although I've tried to reason and been promised peace, I know it's not going to happen. So should I continue, I'd just be wasting my time. Sometimes you have to know when to take the high road and throw in the towel. A leopard doesn't change it's spots as has been proven over and over to me. To continue to intentionally cause pain to another person hasn't been my style. I just wish I would have followed my instincts from the beginning.

Blue Wolf
07-30-2010, 04:10 PM
I have been sitting back and reading this entire forum and know I have made the right decision not to remain here. All I see here are a lot of hate mongers and those that like to bash others and tell them what they can and cannot do. Now I know where all of those that were on another forum came to so they could reign supreme in their reign of terror. Ta-ta cretins. I am one that will not be stiffled by anyone nor be told whom I may or may not talk to as has been tried. When some of you here get your minds out of the gutter and your heads out of each others ass, you may just become human again.

If you're leaving, why do you keep coming back here? I've counted 5 more posts since you said, "Ta-ta cretins."


Unlike you and some others, I do not run a person down, call them names or try to convince others that someone is a really bad person.

How strange that you called people here "cretins", then said that you don't call people names.


I have not made any threats called anyone names or done anything wrong. So, now just who is the one that you are warning? Him or me. Let's be honest now.

When are you going to be honest?

It seems to me that you're just here to get people upset.

nomaxim
07-30-2010, 04:25 PM
Wow look, perverted trolls.

http://www.googlyfoogly.com/images/evil_treasure_trolls.jpg

BruceShuell
07-30-2010, 04:26 PM
This thread stinks.

nomaxim
07-30-2010, 06:26 PM
This thread stinks.
Yep, sure does.

In fact I just realized that some of the trolls in my above posted image are impostors.

Look closely at some of the figures to the left of the girls head. They are not trolls, but smurfs! :RpS_ohmy:

King
07-30-2010, 06:29 PM
Agreed Bruce.

I understand there's a long time hate for both parties, but **** man, the biggest thread grabbers on both sites revolve around the other.

<insert "Full House" theme song here, and be happy bitches.>

King
07-30-2010, 06:42 PM
Agreed Bruce.

I understand there's a long time hate for both parties, but **** man, the biggest thread grabbers on both sites revolve around the other.

<insert "Full House" theme song here, and be happy bitches.>

I hereby retract my statement. This crap is funny after reading everything.

Cranky Old Man
07-31-2010, 09:20 AM
Maybe you should talk to your boy ALA as he is the one doing all of the name calling and making the accusations. None of the posts I made to that young lady are any of his business or had anything to do with him. I have not made any threats called anyone names or done anything wrong. So, now just who is the one that you are warning? Him or me. Let's be honest now. Neither are posts that seem suggestive or innapropriate in any way. Without knowing the humor behind any given post or what was really meant, who has the right to say what is right or wrong. Neither he nor you are my judge, jury or exectioner. Neither of you know the whole story. Do as you will.

I would like for anyone to show me where I have broken the laws of any land or the rules of any forum by talking to a young lady of legal age. It seemed to me that only a small handful maybe 3 or 4 posters decided that they did not like that and I was supposed to stop just because they said so. So look at who is breaking the rules here by attacking me and doing a lot of name calling. Now who is really breaking the rules. You are going to have to come up with something a lot better that what you have so far ALA. Oh and please try not to sputter and slobber all over yourself while flying. It just would'nt look right.

Gazza
07-31-2010, 09:47 AM
You need to look in the mirror Old Timer. You are a liar and a hypocrite. A thread was started about this forum and the members here on Scam, on July the 6th (which is now 7 pages long of venom, lies and baiting b.s.) and all of you a holes have been posting on it, daily ever since. Hell, you posted on it today. In fact you have posted bullshit , lies and snarky rude comments 19 times on that thread. You already made one Drama Queen exit on here, we don't need another. Grow up and just leave.

You are an old fool. Your posts are worthless, inane drivel. Just unplug your puter and move into assisted living and get it the hell over with. Crawl the hell back to the cesspool with the other idiot posters there. It's where you belong. You fit right in. If you are lucky, maybe some teenager will join that site and you can drool and make inappropriate comments her as you are infamous for doing on other forums, you jackass. I'd be more than happy to publish them here along with the inappropriate pictures if you like. That's why you have no issue in supporting a porn mogul like George. I imagine you are a very regular visitor to many of his porn sites.

We've had several assholes from Scam (some of them using multiple screen name) and even Lady Loser herself, come over here and with the sole intent of trying to destroy this forum and harass the owner, the Mods and the members. You are nothing but another troll from the cesspool. Guess what jerk-off, it hasn't worked and it won't work. I knew there were some seriously disturbed people on that forum, but I never realized how sick and desperate and jacked up all of you were til now.

That moron childish Kermt jerk is spouting nothing but lies. He is Lady Losers pet Troll and created and encouraged by her. He has stated and keeps stating that I said horrible things to Lisa on here when in truth I never once made one comment about her or to her in the short time we were both members here. In fact I had her on ignore. I went after one person and one person only. The Queen Bitch of Scam. He leaves out all the pornographic filth and dozens of vile posts that he spewed and his major concern and descriptions over my privates on the thread that was justly deleted. How messed up are you people at Scam? lmao Seriously. What's hysterical is that some of you dare to call yourselves Christians! I 've seen dogs with higher IQs and more morals and ethics than any of you possess.

You and the others sit there like the brain dead fools that you are and just all believe this crap. You believe anything. The assumptions and idiotic conclusions I have seen coming from there are so childish and so juvenile and complete lies. Then you all chime in with your own bullshit lying comments likes flies on a dung heap. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. You have baited and taunted everyone on this site since it started and then you dare to point fingers when people over here have had enough.

Then, Lady Loser starts a thread to award posters from Scam like him, who come here and makes asses of themselves and get banned. You lot at Scam are the most pathetic warped bunch of assholes I have ever seen on the internet in my life. Stay the hell over there, you are not welcome or needed here. Your behavior there, will not be allowed to continue over here. Move on and get a damn life. It's pretty obvious that none of you actually have a life of any sort and are just a bunch or bored, old, lonely outcasts who have finally found a common enemy and something to mindlessly blither about. Read your damn posts and think about them. What is it you think you are accomplishing? What you are doing is making complete horses asses out of yourself and driving away traffic from that hell hole. Don't let the door slam you on the ass on your way back to the cesspool. You are just a part of the most pathetic group of losers and unintelligent embeciles that I have ever witnessed in one group in my life. Stay there with your ilk Old Fool.

Your lecturous behavior (posts and photos) with a teenage girl from other forums (including one that you were banned from for this behavior) would make really interesting reading for many on here, you pervert.

Nobody gives a damn what you think about this site nor the members or the Mods. Take your Ex-lax, tighten your Depends and drag your wrinkled ass back to where you belong.
So!

How is the "is it, or isn't it. You decide!" scam site going?

Up **** creek, I'd say!

A Life Aloft seems to have taken up a position of ambassador for niceness and cleanliness which is quite possibly a scam in itself, judging by what is written above!...

Glad I popped me head in...lol!


.

A Life Aloft
07-31-2010, 10:45 AM
I would like for anyone to show me where I have broken the laws of any land or the rules of any forum by talking to a young lady of legal age. It seemed to me that only a small handful maybe 3 or 4 posters decided that they did not like that and I was supposed to stop just because they said so. So look at who is breaking the rules here by attacking me and doing a lot of name calling. Now who is really breaking the rules. You are going to have to come up with something a lot better that what you have so far ALA. Oh and please try not to sputter and slobber all over yourself while flying. It just would'nt look right.Give it up Old Fool. You are a pathetic, desperate, dirty old man, grasping at straws. No onewants or need to hear you trying to justify your sick behavior with a young girl, a teenager, on the internet.

For the THIRD TIME is not about what is legal. It is what is moral. Look that up in the dictionary along with ethics, values and inappropriate behavior and see if you can get a clue, you pervert. You are a disgusting person. Any Man of your advanced years and who is married and carries on the way you have with a TEENAGER has issues. Big issues. The fact that you see nothing wrong with what you have done, even though you were banned for your behavior, just goes to show how deep your denial and illness actually is. You sound like a child molester who claims his behavior was good for the child.

There was no "handful" of posters who thought you and your buddy were sick either on that forum. The Mod received many complaints, many people left the forum and more than a handful called you out on your behavior. The entire forum died, basically because you and your buddy were carrying on like a couple of pervs with a young GIRL and you couldn't control yourself. You had no respect for what others felt about this even though you were asked to keep up your sick behavior in PMs and that you were offending others! You were banned because you refused to stop. It was the content of your so called "talking" and the pictures and the photos that got your ass banned from Val's forum. She had to delete some of the pics and warned you. You then went ape **** on her, refused to stop and she banned your ass. In fact for many, many months, everyone else had pretty much left that forum and the three of you carried on like the pervs that you are to your hearts delight until the Mod decided to clean the place back up and invite a few of us back to the site. That didn't sit well with you. So you and your buddy and the girl went to and started your own private place where the three of you carry on to this day. Do you need me to have her come on here and verify everything that I have stated as the truth and embarrass you even further?

As SBM stated, I cannot nor would I ever post the photos, the lewd, immature pics that you and he posted over and over nor the worst of the dialogue on here. I don't need to. I have exposed you for exactly what you are and what you continue to be.

You claim we are all assholes and cretins. You have made two Drama Queen exits on here. You have made posts on this site and on Scam slamming this site and it's members and the mods yet you continue to return here and make a complete and utter fool and asshole out of yourself. Get some help Old Fool. You don't belong here. You need to go back to the cesspool where you fit in and have supporters who are just as jacked up as you are.

You are more than three times her age and married! You are a highly disturbed person. How sad that a man of your advanced age (more than three times the girl's age) who is married, is so desperate and so lonely, and so warped, that he reverts to the sickening and inappropriate displays of behavior that you have for two years now with a very young girl! WTF is wrong with you? Then you try and defend this? There is no defense. None.

You don't have a daughter. That is probably the only good news out of this. If I found some ******* on the net doing what you have done with my daughter you would have gotten a personal visit, believe me. There is no woman on the face of this planet that would allow and condone her husband to be carrying on like a perv and a fool with some teenager on the internet either.

The girl is partly responsible and it's obvious from reading her posts that she has issues otherwise she would not be involved in what she is. but YOU are supposed to be the adult here Old Fool. You are supposed to be the responsible party, the mature man, a married man. You are feeding her issues and contributing to them in truth. But none of that phases you. You dont care as long as you get your sick jollies. You disgust me. You would digust most normal people in fact. There are no excuses for what you have done and what you continue to do. The next time you decide to ride over here on your high horse and judge and criticize others and this forum, just remember that you have no higher ground. You live in the gutter like the trash that you are. I imagine that Jerry Lee Lewis is your hero.

You started this Old Fool. You came here and attacked this forum and it's members yet again, yesterday. I am simply not going to lay down and take any more crap from the Scum from Scam. You want to come here and behave like an asshole, expect to get the exact same treatment in return. It's your choice, perv.

A Life Aloft
07-31-2010, 10:50 AM
So!

How is the "is it, or isn't it. You decide!" scam site going?

Up **** creek, I'd say!

A Life Aloft seems to have taken up a position of ambassador for niceness and cleanliness which is quite possibly a scam in itself, judging by what is written above!...

Glad I popped me head in...lol!


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Gee, thanks for popping your head in to add nothing of value to this forum like you have done since day one. You are another piece of left over Scam Scum who pops in here only to criticize this site and it's members and stir the pot. Big surprise. You have already done that before on here and you were told off. lmao

Cranky Old Man
07-31-2010, 11:25 AM
Give it up Old Fool. You are a pathetic, desperate, dirty old man, grasping at straws. No onewants or need to hear you trying to justify your sick behavior with a young girl, a teenager, on the internet.

For the THIRD TIME is not about what is legal. It is what is moral. Look that up in the dictionary along with ethics, values and inappropriate behavior and see if you can get a clue, you pervert. You are a disgusting person. Any Man of your advanced years and who is married and carries on the way you have with a TEENAGER has issues. Big issues. The fact that you see nothing wrong with what you have done, even though you were banned for your behavior, just goes to show how deep your denial and illness actually is. You sound like a child molester who claims his behavior was good for the child.

There was no "handful" of posters who thought you and your buddy were sick either on that forum. The Mod received many complaints, many people left the forum and more than a handful called you out on your behavior. The entire forum died, basically because you and your buddy were carrying on like a couple of pervs with a young GIRL and you couldn't control yourself. You had no respect for what others felt about this even though you were asked to keep up your sick behavior in PMs and that you were offending others! You were banned because you refused to stop. It was the content of your so called "talking" and the pictures and the photos that got your ass banned from Val's forum. She had to delete some of the pics and warned you. You then went ape **** on her, refused to stop and she banned your ass. In fact for many, many months, everyone else had pretty much left that forum and the three of you carried on like the pervs that you are to your hearts delight until the Mod decided to clean the place back up and invite a few of us back to the site. That didn't sit well with you. So you and your buddy and the girl went to and started your own private place where the three of you carry on to this day. Do you need me to have her come on here and verify everything that I have stated as the truth and embarrass you even further?

As SBM stated, I cannot nor would I ever post the photos, the lewd, immature pics that you and he posted over and over nor the worst of the dialogue on here. I don't need to. I have exposed you for exactly what you are and what you continue to be.

You claim we are all assholes and cretins. You have made two Drama Queen exits on here. You have made posts on this site and on Scam slamming this site and it's members and the mods yet you continue to return here and make a complete and utter fool and asshole out of yourself. Get some help Old Fool. You don't belong here. You need to go back to the cesspool where you fit in and have supporters who are just as jacked up as you are.

You are more than three times her age and married! You are a highly disturbed person. How sad that a man of your advanced age (more than three times the girl's age) who is married, is so desperate and so lonely, and so warped, that he reverts to the sickening and inappropriate displays of behavior that you have for two years now with a very young girl! WTF is wrong with you? Then you try and defend this? There is no defense. None.

You don't have a daughter. That is probably the only good news out of this. If I found some ******* on the net doing what you have done with my daughter you would have gotten a personal visit, believe me. There is no woman on the face of this planet that would allow and condone her husband to be carrying on like a perv and a fool with some teenager on the internet either.

The girl is partly responsible and it's obvious from reading her posts that she has issues otherwise she would not be involved in what she is. but YOU are supposed to be the adult here Old Fool. You are supposed to be the responsible party, the mature man, a married man. You are feeding her issues and contributing to them in truth. But none of that phases you. You dont care as long as you get your sick jollies. You disgust me. You would digust most normal people in fact. There are no excuses for what you have done and what you continue to do. The next time you decide to ride over here on your high horse and judge and criticize others and this forum, just remember that you have no higher ground. You live in the gutter like the trash that you are. I imagine that Jerry Lee Lewis is your hero.

You started this Old Fool. You came here and attacked this forum and it's members yet again, yesterday. I am simply not going to lay down and take any more crap from the Scum from Scam. You want to come here and behave like an asshole, expect to get the exact same treatment in return. It's your choice, perv.

Gee all of this from a person that cannot even get their facts straight. I am not in my 70's, she is 20 years old and an adult. Probably more so than you. You cannot post those so called nude pictures I was supposed to have posted because they do not exist. One reason is that it would have been against the rules and I have never broken the rules. If I had you would have had me banned or at least tried to. If you think so prove it. And I do not answer to you for any reason at any time. You are sticking your nose in where it don't belong as it is really none of your business. Nobody asked you for your opinion or your thoughts. So please keep them to yourself.

As I have said before. Prove what you say or kindly keep your vile mouth to yourself.

And SBM I would like to make this an official complaint against ALA for attacking me for no reason other than he feels that he has the right to tell me what I may or may not do and if I do not do as he says I am verbally attacked with name calling and such. I do believe that this against the very rules you have posted. Now are you a fair administrator or are you going to play favorites and confirm what others have said about you.

Soapboxmom
07-31-2010, 11:42 AM
I do not play favorites. If you choose to have discourse on a public forum you are inviting anyone and everyone to join you. So whatever interaction you had with this young lady has become the fodder for discussion because it was public to begin with. If anyone gets out of line here it will be dealt with, but we are in the Rant section, so do carry on and all can present their cases and debate this to their hearts' content.

Soapboxmom

A Life Aloft
07-31-2010, 11:45 AM
Gee all of this from a person that cannot even get their facts straight. I am not in my 70's, she is 20 years old and an adult. Probably more so than you. You cannot post those so called nude pictures I was supposed to have posted because they do not exist. One reason is that it would have been against the rules and I have never broken the rules. If I had you would have had me banned or at least tried to. If you think so prove it. And I do not answer to you for any reason at any time. You are sticking your nose in where it don't belong as it is really none of your business. Nobody asked you for your opinion or your thoughts. So please keep them to yourself.

As I have said before. Prove what you say or kindly keep your vile mouth to yourself.

And SBM I would like to make this an official complaint against ALA for attacking me for no reason other than he feels that he has the right to tell me what I may or may not do and if I do not do as he says I am verbally attacked with name calling and such. I do believe that this against the very rules you have posted. Now are you a fair administrator or are you going to play favorites and confirm what others have said about you.That girl was 18 years old when she came to that forum. You started and continued your perverted relationship with her during that time. She turned 19 while still on that forum with you. She turned 20 recently on the new forum that you and your buddy started. Lie much Old Fool? And don't try to deny that you are more than three times her age and married. And don't deny that you kept and keep asking her to pose for pics and all the other thousands of inappropiate comments to her that you have made over the years. There are thousands of them.

Do you have short term memory loss or are you just this desperate to try and justify your sick, warped behavoior? When you come here and call the member of this foprums names and slam this site, be prepared for what you get in return, perv. And yes, you are a huge perv and disgusting.. You will never be able to whitewash and justify this. Keep trying. You are making yourself look worse, if that is even possible, than you already have. The truth is the truth Old Fool. If you had stayed on the cesspool where you belong, none of this would have happend. You brought this upon yourself and oyu continue to do so. It wasn't enough for you to run your mouth about the Mods and the posters and this site over there though was it? You chose to come here and do the same. Oh well. Karma is a real bitch isn't it? lol

Cranky Old Man
07-31-2010, 11:47 AM
That girl was 18 years old when she came to that forum. You started and continued your perverted relationship with her during that time. She turned 19 while still on that forum with you. She turned 20 recently on the new forum that you and your buddy started. Lie much Old Fool? And don't try to deny that you are more than three times her age and married. And don't deny that you kept and keep asking her to pose for pics and all the other thousands of inappropiate comments to her that you have made over the years. There are thousands of them.

Do you have short term memory loss or are you just this desperate to try and justify your sick, warped behavoior? When you come here and call the member of this foprums names and slam this site, be prepared for what you get in return, perv. And yes, you are a huge perv and disgusting.. You will never be able to whitewash and justify this. Keep trying. You are making yourself look worse, if that is even possible, than you already have. The truth is the truth Old Fool. If you had stayed on the cesspool where you belong, none of this would have happend. You brought this upon yourself and oyu continue to do so. It wasn't enough for you to run your mouth about the Mods and the posters and this site over there though was it? You chose to come here and do the same. Oh well. Karma is a real bitch isn't it? lol

As I have said. IT REALLY IS NONE OF YOUR DAMM BUSINESS. OR ARE YOU JUST JEALOUS.

Cranky Old Man
07-31-2010, 11:48 AM
I do not play favorites. If you choose to have discourse on a public forum you are inviting anyone and everyone to join you. So whatever interaction you had with this young lady has become the fodder for discussion because it was public to begin with. If anyone gets out of line here it will be dealt with, but we are in the Rant section, so do carry on and all can present their cases and debate this to their hearts' content.

Soapboxmom

I would like to direct you to this post of yours.


Re: George the Gorilla in That Jungle -- Scam.com
Well,

Any posts like the ones described go on here I will remove them and ban the parties responsible. Mods have to use good judgment and personal pictures and information is certainly not welcome. Neither are posts that seem suggestive or innapropriate in any way. There is a place for all that stuff and such questionable behavior. It is called college!!!!

Soapboxmom

A Life Aloft
07-31-2010, 11:49 AM
Gee all of this from a person that cannot even get their facts straight. I am not in my 70's, she is 20 years old and an adult. Probably more so than you. You cannot post those so called nude pictures I was supposed to have posted because they do not exist. One reason is that it would have been against the rules and I have never broken the rules. If I had you would have had me banned or at least tried to. If you think so prove it. And I do not answer to you for any reason at any time. You are sticking your nose in where it don't belong as it is really none of your business. Nobody asked you for your opinion or your thoughts. So please keep them to yourself.

As I have said before. Prove what you say or kindly keep your vile mouth to yourself.

And SBM I would like to make this an official complaint against ALA for attacking me for no reason other than he feels that he has the right to tell me what I may or may not do and if I do not do as he says I am verbally attacked with name calling and such. I do believe that this against the very rules you have posted. Now are you a fair administrator or are you going to play favorites and confirm what others have said about you.That girl was 18 years old when she came to that forum and you know it. You conveniently left that out didn't you? You started and continued your perverted relationship with her during that time. She turned 19 while still on that forum with you. She turned 20 only just recently on the new forum that you and your buddy started. Lie much Old Fool? And don't try to deny that you are more than three times her age and married. And don't deny that you kept and keep asking her to pose for pics and all the other thousands of inappropriate comments to her that you have made over the years. There are thousands of them.

Do you have short term memory loss or are you just this desperate to try and justify your sick, warped behavior? When you come here and call the member of this forums names and slam this site, be prepared for what you get in return, perv. And yes, you are a huge perv and disgusting.. You will never be able to whitewash and justify this. Keep trying. You are making yourself look worse, if that is even possible, than you already have. The truth is the truth Old Fool. If you had stayed on the cesspool where you belong, none of this would have happened. You brought this upon yourself and you continue to do so. It wasn't enough for you to run your mouth about the Mods and the posters and this site over there though was it? You chose to come here and do the same. Oh well. Karma is a real bitch isn't it? lol

The sad part is I have proven my case. What's even sicker is that all you care about is what is "legal". Morals, ethics, inappropriate behavior and values mean nothing to you, you disgusting old thing. You actually believe that what you have done and what you continue to do with her is just peachy. Like I said before, get some help. You need it desperately.

A Life Aloft
07-31-2010, 12:14 PM
As I have said. IT REALLY IS NONE OF YOUR DAMM BUSINESS. OR ARE YOU JUST JEALOUS.When you behave the way you have behaved on an open public forum on the internet for years that anyone can view, with a teenager and you are more than three times her age and married, and then you come here and have the nerve to call others names, try to judge them and state: "When some of you here get your minds out of the gutter and your heads out of each others ass, you may just become human again", it is everyone's business. People need to know exactly with who they are dealing with here.

Jealous? How sick are you? Jealous of what? Some poor pathetic, lonely old married man getting his jollies off with a young girl who was a teenager until recently, on the internet in public for the world to see? Try appalled, disgusted and nauseated. Man, you are much sicker than I ever realized. Seriously. And desperate. I actually respect and honor my lovely wife who is my soul mate, my best friend and I adore her. I would never disrespect her or do what you have done. No normal man would.

I sure hope the citizens of your small town are keeping their teenage daughters far far away from you, for their sakes. Perhaps that is why you had to turn to the internet to find them.

LisaN
07-31-2010, 12:38 PM
I do not play favorites. If you choose to have discourse on a public forum you are inviting anyone and everyone to join you. So whatever interaction you had with this young lady has become the fodder for discussion because it was public to begin with. If anyone gets out of line here it will be dealt with, but we are in the Rant section, so do carry on and all can present their cases and debate this to their hearts' content.

Soapboxmom

Will you then be unbanning Subway Eat Fresh?

How many times will ALA have to be at the center of controversy and problems at this site before you realize it's him, not everyone else, that's causing the problems? First with Stephanie, and me, and then Subway, and now Old Timer.

You can keep banning and getting rid of the people he has a problem with, but he's just going to keep finding a new target for his anger each time you do. He's done it every time you've bailed him out so far.

Soapboxmom
07-31-2010, 01:00 PM
Sorry, but Stephanie is an admin at a competing forum. All of the Mods that left to come over here are banned at Scam.com. Stephanie was here to stir up trouble when we should all be tending to our own forums. You do know Subway and jebaroo are both the same person and also part of a group of people posting, I assume. Talk about IPs from all over the world. So, again, folks that are playing games and not interested in contributing don't need to be here either. Lady Mod can tell you all about them having multiple usernames over yonder as well.

Ask Stephanie to provide the usernames and proof that I had 5 usernames. I only posted under Soapboxmom. When I lost my password as I had been automatically logged on forever I signed up as Soapboxmom2, I believe it was, in order to ask for help recovering my password. Once again she doesn't understand how the forum software or IPs work or is flat out lying as she has done numerous times.

Soapboxmom

Cranky Old Man
07-31-2010, 01:01 PM
When you behave the way you have behaved on an open public forum on the internet for years that anyone can view, with a teenager and you are more than three times her age and married, and then you come here and have the nerve to call others names, try to judge them and state: "When some of you here get your minds out of the gutter and your heads out of each others ass, you may just become human again", it is everyone's business. People need to know exactly with who they are dealing with here.

Jealous? How sick are you? Jealous of what? Some poor pathetic, lonely old married man getting his jollies off with a young girl who was a teenager until recently, on the internet in public for the world to see? Try appalled, disgusted and nauseated. Man, you are much sicker than I ever realized. Seriously. And desperate. I actually respect and honor my lovely wife who is my soul mate, my best friend and I adore her. I would never disrespect her or do what you have done. No normal man would.

I sure hope the citizens of your small town are keeping their teenage daughters far far away from you, for their sakes. Perhaps that is why you had to turn to the internet to find them.

You know, you have really turned into a very hateful and spiteful person and I am sorry that I ever knew you. Now why don't you just go on and puff your chest up and go and brag that you have run me off. You see, you just aint worth the effort. Have a really nice live and fly safely.

LisaN
07-31-2010, 01:11 PM
Sorry, but Stephanie is an admin at a competing forum. All of the Mods that left to come over here are banned at Scam.com. Stephanie was here to stir up trouble when we should all be tending to our own forums. You do know Subway and jebaroo are both the same person and also part of a group of people posting, I assume. Talk about IPs from all over the world. So, again, folks that are playing games and not interested in contributing don't need to be here either. Lady Mod can tell you all about them having multiple usernames over yonder as well.

Ask Stephanie to provide the usernames and proof that I had 5 usernames. I only posted under Soapboxmom. When I lost my password as I had been automatically logged on forever I signed up as Soapboxmom2, I believe it was, in order to ask for help recovering my password. Once again she doesn't understand how the forum software or IPs work or is flat out lying as she has done numerous times.

Soapboxmom

I don't really care about multiple usernames nor do I really care who's feelings got hurt or whatever.

I had made legitimate posts on this site but stopped posting once it became increasingly clear that ALA's behavior would be tolerated, while those who questioned him were banned. This became even more apparent when you banned Subway despite the fact that he didn't even break any rules.

And now you say that you're not going to enforce rules here because it's the rant forum so that you don't have to ban ALA for repeated offenses against the rules.

Actions speak louder than words, you're allowing him to lose his marbles on a regular basis and he will ALWAYS find a new target once you get rid of one. Isn't that obvious? First Stephanie and me, then Subway, now Old Timer. Ban Old Timer and he'll just find someone else.

Also, can you prove that Jeb and Subway are one in the same? Or is this an assumption? You know what they say about assumptions...

Soapboxmom
07-31-2010, 01:39 PM
A matching dedicated IP answers the question as to Sub and jebaroo being one person. An overseas dedicated IP for jebaroo when he lives on this continent shows more than one person is using that name. Facts my dear.

Soapboxmom

LisaN
07-31-2010, 03:50 PM
So to be clear, both Jeb and Sub have the same overseas dedicated IP address?

Moving on, I like how you ignored my observations of ALA. Those are fact as well, my dear.

You know, for hating Stephanie as much as you do you sure act like her sometimes.

Soapboxmom
07-31-2010, 04:00 PM
07-31-2010, 11:28 AM
sojustask
Lady Moderator- Just call me Your Majesty Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: East Texas
Posts: 18,407


Re: Yes SBM we have recovered

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Originally Posted by Kermit The Frog
SoJuskAsk......May I ask... if Soapboxmom had 5 different I.D.'s...... Why was she never banned to begin with???
I miss counted, there are 4.

soapboxmom

soapboxmom.

soapboxmom.mom

soapboxmom2

They all have enough in common that it's apparent they belong to the same person.


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Ask Stephanie to provide the usernames and proof that I had 5 usernames. I only posted under Soapboxmom. When I lost my password as I had been automatically logged on forever I signed up as Soapboxmom2, I believe it was, in order to ask for help recovering my password. Once again she doesn't understand how the forum software or IPs work or is flat out lying as she has done numerous times.

Soapboxmom

They are all registered to you Heather. Do you really want me posting IP's and email addys to prove it? Maybe it's just that you can't remember how many times you might have had to ask for help under a different screen name? That must be it.
I wasn't lying, you can lose that worn out accusation. As I said earlier in this thread, it looked like maybe you were trying to decide on what to call yourself here. You settled on the one you used.


Lady Mod
Let me help you. I am Soapboxmom and Soapboxmom2 (which I only used when I forgot my password to contact you guys.) soapboxmom.mom is a friend of mine old enough to be my mother who is very dear and was just having fun. She is in a different state and it was a dedicated IP (not a proxy).

Don't forget soapboxmorn who shared IPs from hlrn.qwest.net with 7 other usernames. Those were some bikini shots. soapboxmom. is probably Matthew Adams. He has an e-mail account in my name and if he uses it again he will be facing possible criminal charges in Texas. The new law (http://mikeyounglaw.com/internet-lawyer/online-harassment-texas-internet-law/)is much needed with all the crazies out there. You really need to carefully check IPs and spend a lot more time on that admin panel. And, do ask a computer geek for clarification on how that stuff works. Give me a break, chicklet!

Soapboxmom

LisaN
07-31-2010, 04:17 PM
Lol... it was my friend, it wasn't me. You do realize how silly that sounds, right?

Who cares??

Soapboxmom
07-31-2010, 04:25 PM
Lol... it was my friend, it wasn't me. You do realize how silly that sounds, right?

Who cares??

Well, I guess your friend Stephanie needs to learn more about the software and admin panel and actually check the IPs to see if they are dedicated or from proxies. Then, she might consider that folks use all sorts of names in e-mails from free service providers. So, again she is quick to make accusations when she obviously has no evidence to back them up. Her smear campaign backfires on her everytime.

Soapboxmom

LisaN
07-31-2010, 04:38 PM
Well, I guess your friend Stephanie needs to learn more about the software and admin panel and actually check the IPs to see if they are dedicated or from proxies. Then, she might consider that folks use all sorts of names in e-mails from free service providers. So, again she is quick to make accusations when she obviously has no evidence to back them up. Her smear campaign backfires on her everytime.

Soapboxmom

So why do you care?

Lol, by all means the two of you can continue your arguing over 2 forums, I'm sure I'm not the only one laughing. But this is all getting beyond ridiculous.

A Life Aloft
07-31-2010, 05:49 PM
If you have so many complaints about the Mods, the members and this site why did you bother to re-register and come back here then after your exit? Cripes, is this all that the Scum from Scam are capable of? You have run your mouth for several weeks and lied and slandered myself and SBM and others on that thread on Scam about this site, the Mods and the posters here.

I was on Scam posting when SBM's enemies came on there twice and and it could have been more, I was not on there all the time, and created false names very similar to her name and pretended to be her. In fact, I reported one of them to her and to Tom. But since you never posted on the MLM forums til just recently, you wouldn't know that would you? Tom saw it, many of us saw it. Now who sounds "silly"? That's the problem with you and it always has been. You just run your mouth without the facts and you are too hard headed to see when you are wrong, which is often. You can't tell the truth from fiction because it doesn't fit your little agenda. You never believe the truth and you don't care to . You think you know it all, when in fact you don't know dick. But that never stops you.

Now you come back here to diss this site and myself and SBM yet again. Oh happy day, aren't we lucky. lmao Just what we need more of. Look, we all know that Stephanie is your little buddy. She is not the buddy of anyone here, however, as much as that obviously bothers you. Accept it and move the hell on. This b.s. is getting damn old.

The only issues I have had on this forum again have to do with the Scum fro Scam, not the decent posters from scam, the scum....who come here, contribute nothing or little of value, behave like lying trolls and run this site, it's members and the Mods into the ground. I think that's pretty obvious. It's like there is no escape from the assholes from that forum. They are not content to hang where they belong and cause crap there, they insist on pulling the same exact **** over here for some reason. Talk about people with issues. All of you just demand attention by your negative, obnoxious behavior. Then when you get the negative attention that you deserve and warrant, you bitch some more. It's a cycle of ugliness that has gone on since this site was begun.

Since you are all about creating more drama and stirring the pot, questioning and grilling the Admin here, the bitching and whining, calling me every name under the sun and lying your ass off about me on Scam, (which is your favorite activity on all the forums you have been on) and you can't stand the way this site is being run, and on and on why the hell are you here? You haven't done enough complaining and bitching about this place on Scam? lmao You don't like it, leave. Solves your problem and everyone else's. Or do you just enjoy bitching and slamming others that much? I believe that is simply the case.

All the a holes who came form Scam always make a Drama Queen exit, vow never to return and yet here they are again, causing more grief for everyone. You people are worse than trying to get dried dog **** off your shoe. A little water and it's gone. But you lot? Not so much. Is this all you have to do in your tiny life? Seriously? How sad and pathetic. Is this all you can come up with? Just go from place to place and cause and start crap? Get a life. You'll be happier. Well in your case probably not. You'd still find something to bitch about.

The bigger question, is why do YOU care?

LisaN
07-31-2010, 06:45 PM
If you have so many complaints about the Mods, the members and this site why did you bother to re-register and come back here then after your exit? Cripes, is this all that the Scum from Scam are capable of? You have run your mouth for several weeks and lied and slandered myself and SBM and others on that thread on Scam about this site, the Mods and the posters here.

I was on Scam posting when SBM's enemies came on there twice and and it could have been more, I was not on there all the time, and created false names very similar to her name and pretended to be her. In fact, I reported one of them to her and to Tom. But since you never posted on the MLM forums til just recently, you wouldn't know that would you? Tom saw it, many of us saw it. Now who sounds "silly"? That's the problem with you and it always has been. You just run your mouth without the facts and you are too hard headed to see when you are wrong, which is often. You can't tell the truth from fiction because it doesn't fit your little agenda. You never believe the truth and you don't care to . You think you know it all, when in fact you don't know dick. But that never stops you.

Now you come back here to diss this site and myself and SBM yet again. Oh happy day, aren't we lucky. lmao Just what we need more of. Look, we all know that Stephanie is your little buddy. She is not the buddy of anyone here, however, as much as that obviously bothers you. Accept it and move the hell on. This b.s. is getting damn old.

The only issues I have had on this forum again have to do with the Scum fro Scam, not the decent posters from scam, the scum....who come here, contribute nothing or little of value, behave like lying trolls and run this site, it's members and the Mods into the ground. I think that's pretty obvious. It's like there is no escape from the assholes from that forum. They are not content to hang where they belong and cause crap there, they insist on pulling the same exact **** over here for some reason. Talk about people with issues. All of you just demand attention by your negative, obnoxious behavior. Then when you get the negative attention that you deserve and warrant, you bitch some more. It's a cycle of ugliness that has gone on since this site was begun.

Since you are all about creating more drama and stirring the pot, questioning and grilling the Admin here, the bitching and whining, calling me every name under the sun and lying your ass off about me on Scam, (which is your favorite activity on all the forums you have been on) and you can't stand the way this site is being run, and on and on why the hell are you here? You haven't done enough complaining and bitching about this place on Scam? lmao You don't like it, leave. Solves your problem and everyone else's. Or do you just enjoy bitching and slamming others that much? I believe that is simply the case.

All the a holes who came form Scam always make a Drama Queen exit, vow never to return and yet here they are again, causing more grief for everyone. You people are worse than trying to get dried dog **** off your shoe. A little water and it's gone. But you lot? Not so much. Is this all you have to do in your tiny life? Seriously? How sad and pathetic. Is this all you can come up with? Just go from place to place and cause and start crap? Get a life. You'll be happier. Well in your case probably not. You'd still find something to bitch about.

The bigger question, is why do YOU care?

You know what you said to me in that PM. You have no high ground here, Gerry. You've called me many nasty names all over the place and up until recently I was attempting to placate you because I was still willing to move past it. But then I realized something. It's about control for you. You can't control who I'm friends with, so you think that justifies calling me a bitch and in general being nasty to me without any provocation from me.

Do you treat your wife the same way? When she becomes friends with someone that you don't want her to do you start calling her a bitch and treat her like you did me?

Ya... what a man. I'll tell you now that if I ever found out my husband treated any woman like you treated me or Stephanie, online or not, his ass would be in serious hot water. I'm sure your sweetie is real proud of your behavior. Have you seen a professional, I seriously think you might be bipolar.

A Life Aloft
07-31-2010, 07:11 PM
You know what you said to me in that PM. You have no high ground here, Gerry. You've called me many nasty names all over the place and up until recently I was attempting to placate you because I was still willing to move past it. But then I realized something. It's about control for you. You can't control who I'm friends with, so you think that justifies calling me a bitch and in general being nasty to me without any provocation from me.

Do you treat your wife the same way? When she becomes friends with someone that you don't want her to do you start calling her a bitch and treat her like you did me?

Ya... what a man. I'll tell you now that if I ever found out my husband treated any woman like you treated me or Stephanie, online or not, his ass would be in serious hot water. I'm sure your sweetie is real proud of your behavior. Have you seen a professional, I seriously think you might be bipolar.Lisa your denial is amazing. But then you really have never been an honest person to begin with. You were called what you were called AFTER what you posted to me on Val's forum and the vile filthy name that you called me along with the other garbage that you spewed.. Memory loss, sweetie? By the way if the shoe fits..........

I put you on ignore over there and over here and over here and I have never called you anything in public. You on the other hand, in truth, have continued to call me every name under the sun and post continuous hateful tripe and lies about me on Scam for several weeks now, while I have said nothing about you or to until today It's clearly there in black and white and everyone has seen it. You really have honesty issues don't you?

It's too bad that you don't like the way that I treated Stephanie. Not your problem, except that you have made it your problem and that is what you are really pissed about. Never mind the way Stephanie treated and has continued to treat others others for years. Let's just forget all about that. lol

All you do is provoke people. Your history on Scam and other forums is living proof of that. Hell, that's what you did yet again today as soon as you re-registered here. So don't play Miss Innocent. It is so second nature to you that you don't even realize or care what you say to people and just how badly you treat them. You don't even recognize your own obnoxious, over the top behavior either and how you like to bully those around you. Then suddenly, when people have had their fill and lash back, you point fingers. Look to your own behavior for a change. You have enough issues to deal with, and it should take you years at this poin, to be even able to start to sort them out.

Thanks for the concern about my wife. She is just fine. I am sure she will be touched by your concern. In fact after reading your tripe for weeks she has much worse to say about you than even I ever thought. Half of it included hand and arm gestures and was in Italian. I had to ask her what some of it meant. ROTFL!

Please post the proof of where I called you "many nasty names all over the place", dear. I would post what you said about me on Val's forum, but that kind of language isn't allowed here.

On your typical Drama Queen rant, I am sorry but I can only give this a 2. Maybe you can do better next time. There is always a next time for you, unfortunately. It's the real reason you came back here after all.

I am sure your poor hubby cowers in the bathroom when you come near him. BTW, and FYI, in the future most men don't find it very feminine or appealing when you talk about how "big your balls are" as you have done so many times on so many forums. lmao

And thanks for your learned diagnosis. What college degree do you have again?

BTW, I am putting your new screen name back on ignore where you belong. But you carry on, which I am sure you will. Nothing new for you there.

A Life Aloft
07-31-2010, 07:24 PM
And in parting, I am happy to learn that your idea of "placating me" was to slam me, call me names and post vile rude lies about me and whine about me on an almost daily basis now for nearly a month on that thread in Chat on Scam. Thanks for the effort. Can we say liar and hypocrite anyone? ROTFL!

LisaN
07-31-2010, 10:13 PM
Please quote where I specifically lied about you.

As for vile names, you can't complain about me calling you names when you're just as mean to me as I am. That's a pot meet kettle situation. Stop your bitching and take it like a man.

A Life Aloft
07-31-2010, 10:36 PM
Sent to me tonight by a friend:


Pink Truth - Pink Truth (http://www.pinktruth.com/index.php?o...start=48#89993)
You need to register to see the forum and read the entire encounter, but Tracy Coenen, who was finally pushed to her limit (and for anyone who reads her blog/form - you know what a terrific gal she really is) - had this to say about Lisa:

"Lisa can also be found shitting on everyone at scam.com. Typical troll, bouncing from site to site and looking to pick a fight." Tracy Broke her own rule about profanity (I have never seen her actually do that before) to comment on your little ray of sunshine and hope. It's nice to make a great impression everywhere you go. lmao

A Life Aloft
07-31-2010, 10:52 PM
Best experience on this forum today:

Today, 08:13 PM
LisaN

Junior Member
This message is hidden because LisaN is on your ignore list.

Gazza
08-01-2010, 06:50 AM
Gee, thanks for popping your head in to add nothing of value to this forum like you have done since day one. You are another piece of left over Scam Scum who pops in here only to criticize this site and it's members and stir the pot. Big surprise. You have already done that before on here and you were told off. lmao
I didn't come here to add value, I must admit. I came originally to wish you well.

Although, I can hardly see how your venomous and repeated attacks on scam members in this place adds value to it either.

It makes me laugh to think how much you feel compelled to "out" the old guy on moral grounds.

How long have you known about his apparent teenage lust for and why didn't you protest earlier?

Why are you suddenly becoming concerned over his behavior?

Is it because he called you some bad names?

There, there it'll be alright. Mummy will be there to soothe your anger!

A Life Aloft
08-01-2010, 01:08 PM
I didn't come here to add value, I must admit. I came originally to wish you well.

Although, I can hardly see how your venomous and repeated attacks on scam members in this place adds value to it either.

It makes me laugh to think how much you feel compelled to "out" the old guy on moral grounds.

How long have you known about his apparent teenage lust for and why didn't you protest earlier?

Why are you suddenly becoming concerned over his behavior?

Is it because he called you some bad names?

There, there it'll be alright. Mummy will be there to soothe your anger!

Gazza if you had any reading or comprehension skills, you would have read the quote I posted from the other site where I did protest. There is an actual time line of for all of this. There were protests from many members at several different times, even on the Chat forum at Scam and from the Mod who eventually banned OT because she decided to take back the forum. The owner abandoned that site shortly after it was formed. All but a couple of members had left the forum because of what happened there.

Your only purpose is coming here is to be the troll that you are and keep stirring the pot and causing more **** for this site. You have contributed nothing of any value here and you never will. Get a life and find something better to do. I am not going to feed your b.s. any longer. If you are that desperate to know the time line of events, send me a pm. You don't really care though. You just want to make an ass of yourself. Congrads. You have succeeded very nicely in doing that, just have you have on the Political Forum on scam. The parade and barrage from the Scum from Scam just continues.

You never came here to wish anyone well. You came here to ridicule and cause crap. All of your posts speak for themselves, pal. They are here in black and white for everyone to read.

Gazza
08-02-2010, 03:31 AM
Gazza if you had any reading or comprehension skills, you would have read the quote I posted from the other site where I did protest. There is an actual time line of for all of this.
Yeah, whatever..Blah blah, blah!

I did read it. I saw a lot of good people I know on there. How did you get to be there too?

All I saw was a few photos of some kids having some harmless fun and then the internet police rocked up and spoiled the party.

As for me causing more **** for this site....You don't need me for that...You're doing a bang up job all by yourself.

Hey, btw. If you have an issue with me why don't you take your own advice and put me on ignore.?

A Life Aloft
08-02-2010, 08:22 AM
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Gazza
08-02-2010, 09:25 AM
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/10/NetTroll.jpg
So, you made it to a level 10, huh?

Glad you shared that with us. It's always nice to see someone get an award for, well, just being themselves!

Congratulations.

A Life Aloft
08-02-2010, 09:29 AM
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Gazza
08-03-2010, 02:07 AM
http://badwraps.phpwebhosting.com/stickerheads2597/images/1-shitstirrer.jpg
lol! How's the pay? I might give it a go!

A Life Aloft
08-03-2010, 09:45 AM
lol! How's the pay? I might give it a go!

http://rlv.zcache.com/anti_valentines_day_card_pictionary_theme_loser-p137978433663617066tdtq_400.jpg

A Life Aloft
08-03-2010, 10:11 AM
Little Gazza's theme song. ROTFL!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWx6ukNnq7Q

Gazza
08-03-2010, 08:32 PM
ALA be with you!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiqqDVl0p7A

A Life Aloft
08-03-2010, 08:36 PM
A breakdown on the biology of Spazza, Queen of the Scum from Scam:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZ6j0_97zgs&playnext=1&videos=etd2I6_xebs

Soapboxmom
08-03-2010, 08:39 PM
Greetings all! This thread is now closed to further comment. Those who wish to do nothing but come here to flame and attack our members may return to whence they came. Those who wish to contribute something of value are welcome to jump in on the many fine threads here and / or start new threads on topics with some merit.

There is an appropriate place for nonsense posts --- Scamdotcom!

Thank you!

Soapboxmom