Thread: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?

Originally Posted by Frabi

The investor/gambler is allowed to win and to lose and he knows both is possible, in one matter they are all the same, casino lottery and Hyip: the owner takes always the most profit. If the Hyip investing would depend only on luck then I would not be able to make nice profits around the year because i am a totally unlucky person in gambling"

If "all the investor / gamblers" knew what a HYIP is and knew they were playing one, there wouldn't be much of a problem, would there ??

But, no matter how the "Frabis" of the world try to spin it, they don't.

Neither lotteries or casinos try to pretend they are something other than casinos and lotteries, nor do they disappear overnight, lie about every facet of their business, pretend to be "investments" or claim to be legal when they aren't.

Originally Posted by EagleOne

We all are aware of the movie "Legally Blonde." Well here is Frabi from MMG, the "Legally Stupid," and I quote:

"I was waiting for the reply of the group on my last post about Profitablesunrise - and like a clockwork the reply arrived...

It's the hypocrisy of the opponents to behave like missionaries in a foreign area...in each argument they make missing an important detail in a way that the outsider should think: "wow...how upright and honest people they are to protect us the folks against the "cheaters" of Profitablesunrise !

Things are not this simple !

When you go to church then surely not to throw eggs onto the pastor When you go to the Indians you must not sell them alcoolics
When you go to a Hyip forum you don't go there to offend the investors with partial information like politicians do when they search a reason

The investor/gambler is allowed to win and to lose and he knows both is possible, in one matter they are all the same, casino lottery and Hyip: the owner takes always the most profit. If the Hyip investing would depend only on luck then I would not be able to make nice profits around the year because i am a totally unlucky person in gambling"

Well Frabi, they really are that simple. It is called stealing. What an absolute Ponzi shill idiot. When your IQ hits 30, Sell.

Let's see if this gets some MMG mod-action:

LOL, you have the right to be wrong and you do it so well! Last time I checked casinos don't lie to people about guaranteed profits, being blessed, or any other happy crappy that you get from hyip admins, pimps and shills. And yes, it is this simple...hyips are illegal. Funds gained are obtained fraudulently,and at the expense of other, later members.

Finix has found her voice in the PS thread at MMG. Wanna guess who she is complaining about?

Seems the faithful are upset that the MMG mods don't ban me as I cause disruption in their only wanting to talk about how great a program is, how it is paying on time, and of course how honest the admin is; and oh by the way, it is not stealing. How do I know? Because Finix said so, and I quote:

"If you just once looked inside the HYIP software, maybe you'd stop making ignorant comments. Stealing requires access to funds. The members never have access to funds other in their own accounts."

Now what was truly funny is munnymachine pointed out to her and a few others that talking about me was in violation of the MMG rules, but of course it fell on deaf ears with Finix. So I now can add her to the long list of people at MMG trying to get me banned. But it sure is fun exposoing all their hypocrisy and defense of these illegal Ponzi programs. She doesn't know it, but she is doing as much as I am in exposing them to the newbies with her comments defending them that these programs are Ponzi's. Thanks Finix for all the help. Keep it up.

Ken Russo and other like Peter Bennet have found their supposed PS replacement called Neomutual.com

Ken has already posted in the MMG forum that he is in.

Originally Posted by busttheblock

Ken Russo and other like Peter Bennet have found their supposed PS replacement called Neomutual.com

Ken has already posted in the MMG forum that he is in.

Probably need a separate thread for Neomutual and other crowd funding scams...

Originally Posted by busttheblock

Ken Russo and other like Peter Bennet have found their supposed PS replacement called Neomutual.com

Ken has already posted in the MMG forum that he is in.

Yes his HRS is going down in flames so time to move to his next Ponzi de Jour. Of course he is still posting he is buying advertising positions, but the problem is it is all just for show. There is no way he is putting those kind of dollars into HRS at this stage of the game. Also you can bet Neomutual is not the only Ponzi he is joining. It's all he knows how to do.

Neomutual.com is ShadowScript HYIP script, about $495 price tag + monthly fee or % of the loot.
ShadowScripts - The Best HYIP Management Software and Support Services

Did not notice any crowdfunding they mumbling about there. If you wanna see crowd funding looking ponzi thats Uinvest

Now comes the part I hate about every one of these Ponzi's: All the horror stories I receive and people needing to know what they can do, if anything. This is the part all the shills, players, and pimps never want to talk about. To them this is just a money game, and they could care less what happens to the victims they lured into their Ponzi.

The phone calls and E-mails are now coming in droves, and will for the next few months. I wish some of these sociopaths that like to pretend that they are not huring anyone in their money games could be forced to take my calls and read my E-mails. Still, I doubt if it would even faze them as they have no conscious, are sociopaths and narcissists.

This is the only part of what we do that I truly hate, but we are going to do everything we can to help them.

Eagle if you had any bullet points you could share with the group it may prove useful to a lot of us. For instance I have noticed on Facebook folks show up with new scams and then you have the reloaders telling people they will recover their money.

Originally Posted by ribshaw

Eagle if you had any bullet points you could share with the group it may prove useful to a lot of us. For instance I have noticed on Facebook folks show up with new scams and then you have the reloaders telling people they will recover their money.

On our website we have a link for Due Diligence and Red Flag Warnings. If people would read them, they would not become a victim. They can also read my book which provides real world examples of Ponzi's and how these criminals do it. I know it works because I have had people tell me who read my book it saved them tens of thousands and in some cases hundreds of thousands of dollars from becoming a victim of a Ponzi.

But lets' get real. People want to believe, and many are desperate and they will try anything if they think it will help them financially. There are plenty of pimps, shills and players to lure them in and make them believe they have found the goose that is laying the golden eggs.

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Meanwhile over at https://www.facebook.com/profitablesunrisereviewlegit Basher Kahn have a little more of your money is appears to be doing that very thing. And I thought he seemed liked such a helpful soul.

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We have on our website a new link for Profitable Sunrise. The link contains all the state filings; Canada, FSA and New Zealand filings; and all the SEC Court actions. As new documents and court procedings are announced, we will update the link to include them. So if anyone want so know the latest information that is factual, you will find it in this new link. The link is: Eagle Research Associates, Inc. - Alerts Warnings & Hot Topics

The title of the link is: Profitable Sunrise: All State and Federal Filings and Court Cases

I just found out what I will be watching on Thursday night at 11:

Thursday at 11: Religious rip-off in our own backyard


By Lisa Stromme Warren - email

(Toledo News Now) - When we go to a place of worship, we hope that it's a safe place where we can trust those around us. Some even donate their money on a regular basis to support the place, support their own spirituality, and feel good about where their money is going.


But in Bryan, Ohio, some say that religion is what got them ripped off. And they're not blaming a church.


They say the actions of one woman led them to put their money where it didn't belong.


We sift through all the finger pointing, accusations, and of course... the money (lots of money) that somehow... disappeared. So many people burned after investing their hard-earned cash.


Faith, religion, money, scandal... and the story of one woman who's getting all the blame.


That's Thursday on WTOL 11 at 11pm. Don't miss it.


Copyright 2013 Toledo News Now. All Rights Reserved.

[Link to Toledo News Now]

Nanci Jo always liked to brag about the small role she played on Miami Vice, now she has a staring role in a vice story of her own. I know I'll be watching.

Originally Posted by GlimDropper

I just found out what I will be watching on Thursday night at 11:

[Link to Toledo News Now]

Nanci Jo always liked to brag about the small role she played on Miami Vice, now she has a staring role in a vice story of her own. I know I'll be watching.

Hmm, I wonder if she will hire private investigators to get all the dirt on Craig Thomas like she did to Jim Paris?

But then according to the movie industry, all news is good news as long as they spell your name right. Right Nanci Jo?

I just saw this posted on PS Facebook page.

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This call was a joke. After all the hype there was good news, Mike didn't know what the good news was, but he sent out an E-mail that supposedly has the good news in it. He also said the info came from Faith Sloan, and he thought she was under indictment. Then the questions started and the fun really began.

Mike told everyone that the SEC did not have jurisdiction and that Roman was not served, therefore all the court action is just wheels spinning. But if Roman had showed up he would have been served and that's why he didn't show up. Oh and yes the program is coming back under a new name. All the negativity is just a bunch of people who do not know what they are talking about and only causing trouble. None of the negativity makes any sense to Mike, but getting paid 2.1% per day compounded did.

The call went on but not worth listening to people say that if they just have patience everything will be fine. Kind of makes you wonder when all the charges are filed if Mike will realize we do know what we were talking about, but knowing him I seriously doubt it.

You can't make this stuff up people.

The lies are designed to support each other. It's one huge circlejerk. To accept one message to be true you have to accept the rest of crap to be true as well.

So it depends on your crap tolerance. :D

Originally Posted by EagleOne

Hmm, I wonder if she will hire private investigators to get all the dirt on Craig Thomas like she did to Jim Paris?

But then according to the movie industry, all news is good news as long as they spell your name right. Right Nanci Jo?

And while this is going on she is sending out e-mails to people who were in her massive private group like this:

(recipient's name xx'd out for privacy)

Hi XXXXXXXX;

Can you give me a call so I can tell you about the program. The link is Wakeupnow - Nanci Jo Frazer. I will personally sponsor you if you think you can help me build it. I will pay your entry fee as well.

Wishing you many blessings,
Nanci Jo Frazer
(419) 636-9207 or (419) 636-1859 Chairman's line My cell is 567 239-8614
Yahoo!
F.U.M.I. FocusUp Ministries, Inc. | Bryan, OH 43506

What happened to Strongbrook that she was promoting in conference calls.
She moves from opportunity to opportunity with stunning speed

TV Promo's:

Holy Rip-off: Craig Thomas Investigates for WTOL 11 - YouTube

Holy Rip Off - Thursday April 25th at 11pm on WTOL 11 - YouTube

Holy Rip Off - Thursday April 25th at 11pm on WTOL 11 - YouTube

Originally Posted by intheknow

TV Promo's:

Holy Rip-off: Craig Thomas Investigates for WTOL 11 - YouTube

Holy Rip Off - Thursday April 25th at 11pm on WTOL 11 - YouTube

Holy Rip Off - Thursday April 25th at 11pm on WTOL 11 - YouTube

This is going to be most interesting indeed!

This should be veeeery interesting indeed.

This Charley Steen character appears to be having a breakdown.
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